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But even more threatening than the menace to democracy is the propagandzied public this mentality guarantees. A government that is able to hide its own atrocities on “national security” grounds will be one whose public endlessly focuses on the crimes of others while remaining blissfully unaware of one’s own nation.

something of value?

just would prefer we would not be doing the 'governing'

Titled Conspiracy Theory Shirk (Sin) the piece implies that some fighters have grown delusional because of conjectures saying that IS is a puppet in the hands of western intelligence agencies.

Isis magazine Dabiq attacks 'conspiracy theories' causing jihadists to flee

of course that's the reason our intelligence agencies don't like it either. Imagine wasting all that time effort and money on developing the puppets

Tinfoil Hat Smile

So here’s what we know works.

Smile at the customer. Take the initiative. Tweak a few rules. Steal cookies for your colleagues. Don’t puncture the impression that you know what you’re doing. Let the other person fill the silence. Get comfortable with discomfort. Don’t privilege your own feelings. Ask who you’re really protecting. Be tough and humane. Challenge ideas, not the people who hold them. Don’t be a slave to type. And above all, don’t affix nasty, scatological labels to people.

It’s a jerk move.

from cinco's link above

The New Lie About Iraq | The American Conservative

All Americans should be reminded again and again that recent wars were based on lies. The First Gulf War was sold to Americans on the basis of the murder of “incubator babies” and an imaginary Iraqi threat to invade Saudi Arabia, including the assertion that satellite photographs showed the Iraqi Army massed on the Saudi border. The “classified” photos never existed. The Kosovo War was based on reports that 100,000 Kosovan Albanians had been murdered by Serbs, so America had to attack so as to stop the mass killing. It was also a lie.

The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer.

Henry A. Kissinger

Here’s how the conspiracy worked: shortly after Nixon’s inauguration, on February 24, 1969, Kissinger and his military aide Alexander Haig held the first in a series of meetings with Sitton, who was an expert on B-52s assigned to the Joint Chiefs of Staff, to work up a “duel reporting system,” a way to bomb Cambodia and keep it secret from Congress, while accounting for the use of spare parts, fuel and munitions.

Kissinger pushed Sitton to come up with a plan that would keep even the pilots of the B-52s in the dark as to where they were bombing. Sitton, though, told him that would not be feasible. Instead, they decided to “swear” the flight crew “to secrecy” (which means that as many, perhaps more, military personnel were involved in this conspiracy than the one Hersh is today derided for believing in).

Kissinger, Haig, and Sitton came up with a simple but comprehensive protocol. Sitton would work up a number of targets in Cambodia to be struck. Then he would bring them to Kissinger and Haig in the White House for approval. Kissinger was very hands on, revising some of Sitton’s work. “I don’t know what he was using as his reason for varying them,” Sitton recalled in his Air Force interview. “Strike here in this area,” Kissinger would tell him, “or strike here in that area.” Once Kissinger was satisfied with the proposed target, Sitton would use a special backchannel set up to send the coordinates to Saigon, and from there a special courier would be used to pass them on to the appropriate radar stations, where an officer would at the last minute switch out the official targets in South Vietnam for the covert ones in Cambodia. When the bombing was complete, he’d burn whatever documents—maps, computer print outs, radar reports, messages, and so on—that might reveal the true target and write up false “post strike” paperwork, indicating that the South Vietnam sortie was flown as planned.

Lessons From the Thinnest of Seymour Hersh’s Thinly Sourced Claims | The Nation

So what do I think is true? I believe that a walk-in Pakistani intelligence officer provided the information on bin Laden and that the Pakistanis were indeed holding him under house arrest, possibly with the connivance of the Saudis. I am not completely convinced that senior Pakistani generals colluded with the U.S. in the attack, though Hersh makes a carefully nuanced case and Obama’s indiscreet comment is suggestive. I do not believe any material of serious intelligence value was collected from the site and I think accounts of the shootout were exaggerated. The burial at sea does indeed appear to be a quickly contrived cover story. And yes, I do think Osama bin Laden is dead.

How Was Bin Laden Killed? | The American Conservative

drove by the strawberry fields yesterday in Watsonville California. Almost every crew picking had at least one guy running back to get another crate. I assumed they were paid by the crate. I only worked that hard a few times in my life

there's almond trees that grow adjacent to the creek path that I walk far enough away that the root structure cannot reach or even get close that have almonds every year including this one. But we have had more than average rain here in san jose for the year july to july

Some current and former CIA leaders will argue that torture netted actionable intelligence that saved American lives. I was working in the CIA’s counterterrorism center at the same time they were, and I can tell you that they’re lying.
Torture may have made some Americans feel better in the aftermath of the September 11 attacks. It may have made them feel that the government was avenging our fallen compatriots. But the report found that “the harsh interrogation methods did not succeed in exacting useful intelligence.”

 There’s Still Time to Prosecute the Torturers :  
Information Clearing House - ICH

For years, lawmakers such as Senators Feinstein and Mark Udall have fought to bring to light a parallel narrative to the one pushed by the CIA.
In December 2014, they succeeded, the PBS documentary notes, with the publication of the Committee’s review of the “enhanced interrogation” techniquesof the CIA, a report that found these methods to be “brutal and far worse” than the CIA let on, and further, that it was ineffective, detrimental to national security and did not help find bin Laden in Abbottabad, Pakistan.

How CIA used Zero Dark Thirty to get a positive image? - The Hindu

i get the ideation that this was a conspiracy by the CIA to help put a positive spin on their torture

Benghazi remains divided, scarred and struggling to survive after a year of fierce clashes that have killed more than 1,700 people, according to the Libya Body Count website, and displaced thousands.

we came we saw they continue to die Laughing out loud
A year of clashes devastates Libya's Benghazi - Yahoo News

beenghaztly

in the big picture we're not even really needed

Ginni Rometty on IBM Watson and AI - Business Insider

"In the future, every decision that mankind makes is going to be informed by a cognitive system like Watson," she said, "and our lives will be better for it."

Shakes Tiny Fist of Fury

Well one of the covers for the story was that torture got Bin Laden. If it's not true much of the cia justification for torture goes out the window.

Cenk does a nice job analyzing Hersh's story

An earlier version of this article said Assad Durani maintained there was no evidence of any kind that the ISI knew that bin Laden was hiding in Abbottabad. Durani says that he personally had "no evidence of any kind" that the ISI knew.

CNN link

out here in the cheap seats we will never know for sure. hersh's article makes more sense to me than the official story.

Punishing Another Whistleblower « Antiwar.com Blog

Writer/truth-seeker David Swanson, who joined us in January for much of the Sterling trial, has done us a real service by scrutinizing the evidence that turned up at the trial and going through a lot of it with a studied eye. Dissecting one not-carefully-enough-redacted CIA cable released by the government, he noticed telling signs that Iraq was next on the list for receiving damning blueprints of the kind CIA operatives tried to give to Iran.
On Monday, Swanson re-posted an analytic piece he wrote in January, entitled “In Convicting Jeffrey Sterling, CIA Revealed More Than It Accused Him of Revealing.”

heave a great day all

Control of state bodies has become increasingly murky as Libya has descended into near-anarchy since rebels toppled Muammar Gaddafi in 2011, with two rival governments backed by armed militias now claiming legitimate authority.

Western allies warn on control of Libya's national resources
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we came we saw they continue to die

I'm not even sure which wall I am facing

Why Hersh’s Account Is Credible and Why I Believe It Is Correct – LewRockwell.com

“If bin Laden had actually been found, why would he be killed and not captured? Why wouldn’t he become a prime target for interrogation? Why make him a dead martyr? Wouldn’t it potentially save lives to talk to the man?”

that always made more sense to me

Once property has been seized, the burden of proof falls on the defendant to get it back -- even if the cops ultimately never charge them with a crime. "We don’t have to prove that the person is guilty," an Albuquerque DEA agent told the Journal. "It’s that the money is presumed to be guilty."

How the DEA took a young man’s life savings without ever charging him with a crime - The Washington Post

certainly makes starting a small business more difficult if you are worried that the people in charge are going to steal your money