Truth be told, the amount of effort that CR puts out every day for the content, it is very very difficult for very many blogs to do the same kind of work. The video mentions 'there are thousands' of blogs out there. Blogs that show similar amounts of data based effort, can be counted in the teens, IMHO.
Ok, I'll bite.....what magic is going to happen such that the supply of foreclosed homes is going to go down starting after next month. Can I get me one of them ANALyst jobs?
I can safely say that I've never been in a house in Canada that didn't have a basement.
I take that back; there are a few 1950's wartime houses that were slapped together with only a crawl space under them, but those are awfully rare. But I was in one of them.
Skeptical? check.
Snarky? check, at times.
Spewing information? I would think I tend to chug it down, while CR presents good information in a formats that even this monkey can understand.
Nice that you got some props CR, you deserve them.
Hundreds of powerful US “bunker-buster” bombs are being shipped from California to the British island of Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean in preparation for a possible attack on Iran.
The Sunday Herald can reveal that the US government signed a contract in January to transport 10 ammunition containers to the island. According to a cargo manifest from the US navy, this included 387 “Blu” bombs used for blasting hardened or underground structures.
Experts say that they are being put in place for an assault on Iran’s controversial nuclear facilities. There has long been speculation that the US military is preparing for such an attack, should diplomacy fail to persuade Iran not to make nuclear weapons.
Although Diego Garcia is part of the British Indian Ocean Territory, it is used by the US as a military base under an agreement made in 1971. The agreement led to 2,000 native islanders being forcibly evicted to the Seychelles and Mauritius.
The Sunday Herald reported in 2007 that stealth bomber hangers on the island were being equipped to take bunker-buster bombs.
Europe’s emissions trading system was in uproar yesterday amid a mounting scandal over “recycled” carbon permits.
Two carbon exchanges were forced to suspend trading as panic hit investors fearful that they had bought invalid permits.
BlueNext and Nord Pool, the French and Nordic exchanges, suspended trading in certificates of emission reduction (CERs) when it emerged that some had been illegally reused.
Concern that used and worthless permits were circulating caused the spot price of the certificates to collapse, from €12 per tonne of carbon to less than €1 .
Don't know for sure noob, got to do with the lack of subzero winters; I am guessing.
Somebody in construction would know better: The foundation needs to go below the frost line in order to be solid. (Constant freezing and thawing will wreak havoc with the foundation otherwise.) The seismic activity of CA is another reason why folks omit the basement, which might otherwise be more living/storage space.
Hundreds of powerful US “bunker-buster” bombs are being shipped from California to the British island of Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean in preparation for a possible attack on Iran.
The conclusion I think we came to here a few nights ago was that the reason they had made this public was just to put a bit more pressure on Iran and put them in there place. As one commenter noted, it was akin to parking an aircraft carrier just outside the nautical boundary of a country.
If war was actually intended, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't put "Bunker-Buster Bombs" on the manifest. Or ship them privately, for that matter.
The conclusion I think we came to here a few nights ago was that the reason they had made this public was just to put a bit more pressure on Iran and put them in there place. As one commenter noted, it was akin to parking an aircraft carrier just outside the nautical boundary of a country.*
CR, seeing headlines like this would really seem to point toward a double dip recession (as housing led us in and is leading us in again). Why do you think we won't double dip?
Oh no worries, it was brief an an overnight affair, if I recall. I'm pretty sure every topic is discussed at least three or four times here, just to catch all the different timezones
just had a big fight to get my perkocet. I won. local med types not used to people who don't take no for an answer.
I still have a few left over from my surgery. My favorite hallucination was when the ICU wall swung back to reveal some extra rooms that weren't there before.
California home with basement? Yet to see one. Yeah, why is that? I've always wondered....
I've seen basements in California, all are older houses that are built on hillsides. Newer houses on hillsides tend to be built on stilts.
The way it was explained to me by my mother was that when you build a house the foundation has to extend two feet below the frost line or the freeze thaw cycle will damage it and the house. In the north east the frost line is deep enough that it makes sense to make a full basement out of it. Where in California the frost line is nil.
Older houses in California have crawl spaces, newer ones are built on a slab because it takes less labor and material.
The way it was explained to me by my mother was that when you build a house the foundation has to extend two feet below the frost line or the freeze thaw cycle will damage it and the house. In the north east the frost line is deep enough that it makes sense to make a full basement out of it. Where in California the frost line is nil.
Older houses in California have crawl spaces, newer ones are built on a slab because it takes less labor and material
Thanks, CG. Where we are, code is at least 4 feet below grade, which is half a basement anyway. Make sense.
But you all don't know what you're missing having that dark, humid, smelly hole just off the kitchen. Actually it's not that bad, I'm currently typing in the basement as we speak. It doubles the size of the house, gives a place for the utilities off the main floor, and keeps my beer chilled in the cold-storage. The problem is always groundwater (sump pumps are electric) and humidity in the summer, of course.
both NorCal and Socal have very different cultures not even taking the east/west divide into account,Dawg talks about the 8 Californias for a very good reason.Google Yreka,riverbank,oxnard.Then Carlsbad,San Luis Obispo and San Francisco finish with Bieber,South Lake Tahoe and Lake elsinore.Toss in Marysville/redbluff and Oakland for spice.
If you want to get your script kiddie on, I recommend:
1) backtrack linux
2) ALFA Network 1000mW AWUS036H High Power Wireless G 802.11g WiFi USB Adapter
3) p0841 packet replay + 20000 initialization vectors
Any WEP network in range is yours -- in minutes (or so I've been told)
i YELLED AT NURSE THEN MADE NICE. Was tempted bur did not call her nurse RATCHED. sERIOUSly, THE AMOUNT OF TIME SPENT DOCUMENTING the unimPORTANT is absurd. andthe more documentation the less trust there will be
Broward,I had a WONDERFUL time the last time I was in LA.I was helping set up master's exhibits at UCLA (Like a thesis for artists) which might have affected my experience.WONDERFUL times.
Liz,if you are on them long enough for physical addiction,try a good acupuncturist and avoid the withdrawal symptoms.I was on synthetic heroin for several years after my back injury and acupuncture worked like a charm.
California has a BIG range of climates.it hit 40 below the year I was born in Yreka.No frost line? been to Tahoe?
I picked up a tractor-trailer full of lumber from northwest of Reno once, it may have been around Westwood/Susanville, but I'm not certain. I do recall that it was not very warm (in January).
It was also a little surreal hauling a load of lumber from NoCal to southern Ontario, Canada; I imagine the only thing that would have felt weirder would have been hauling a load of lettuce from Southern Ontario back to California.
Victoria ... I think it's because it's mostly solid rock.
Fair enough, the ones I was in on the lower mainland all had basements (but I've only been in a few houses there).
We have solid rock everywhere here in Ottawa too, but they just blast through it. They're doing sewer repairs about a half-mile down the road, and periodically the house bangs and rattles like one of the kids just fell down hard. Spooks me every time, but it's just them blasting out rock.
There are a few basements in Southern Florida. I had read an article about expensive intracostal waterfront properties where the owners wanted to expand but had nowhere to go... but down. They were spending a fortune building their own little seawalls.
Why would anyone need a basement for storage or an extra room to hang out in? Isn't that what a garage is for?
Here in SoCal we have "MiniStor" warehousing for our special crap. I can see it for grandma's Dusenberg or temporary storage but I swear people don't do a cost analysis.
Google Yreka,riverbank,oxnard.Then Carlsbad,San Luis Obispo and San Francisco finish with Bieber,South Lake Tahoe and Lake elsinore.Toss in Marysville/redbluff and Oakland for spice
I rented one for a short time a couple of years ago, and there was a clause in the contract that forbid it... Also the manager kept his locks on all the vacant units to keep the squatters out... In spite of all that, there was a story about some woman had moved into one and then someone put a lock on the door and she spent about 30 days in there before someone found her...
Lots of internet articles about turning shipping containers into housing, and at one time I think in Stockton there was a homeless camp where people were living in those steel boxes...
"Barclays is projecting the supply will increase to 733,000 in April 2010, and then gradually decline."
Multiply this number by 3 or 4. There will 300,000 notices of sale in CA in the next year. Between 2008 and 2013, 2 million Ca homes will go through foreclosure or short sale.
Led by exports from Asia, FedEx reported an 18 percent jump in volume from its International Priority business. But average daily domestic package volume rose just 1 percent, reflecting the weak American economy.
Around here people use them for band rehearsal space. Live, no; hang out, yes.
If I was going homeless and I still had some cash, I'd buy a gym membership in a place with lockers and long hours. You keep clean, have a home base most of the day, and a place to keep your stuff. Saw a guy do it once, two lockers down from mine. Took me months to figure out he was living out of his locker.
Comrade Gibbon's mother is right, the more I think of it. With enough mandatory frost depth, it makes sense to go a bit deeper and double the size of the house. Slabs are definitely cheaper, but don't hold up well where it freezes.
Heck, with my brother-in-laws house he almost decided to put prestressed hollow core concrete panels down for his garage floor so that he could use the 14x30 foot space under the garage as additional living/workshop area. Given the slope of the property and the need to raise the entire property up, he ended up having 8 foot walls under his garage, and in the end he backfilled the entire 14x30x8 foot chuck and poured a slab over it. However, during construction when you're standing there, looking at this vast amount of unused space thats going to get buried, it seems a bit wasteful and inefficient to just fill it full of dirt.
EDIT: again. And I'm going to keep Bob Dobb's gym membership idea in mind. You never know
Look closely and you will see some shipping containers in there holding up some of the trailers... the trailers look like pretty old models, but the whole thing is rather neat and the property is well kept ... there is even a greenhouse.... Maybe the Traylor-Park couple lives there....
Like we can afford another govt program - or that it would even work at all... the poor have medicaid, the elderly have medicare, the working population for the most part has medical coverage at work. If you dont, you can buy a plan from any number of providers - It's not cheap, but we are talking about health care of today with MRI's and CT scans, miracle drugs, longer lifetimes, prosthetics... If you want to consume it you had better figure out how to pay for it....
Like we can afford another govt program - or that it would even work at all... the poor have medicaid, the elderly have medicare, the working population for the most part has medical coverage at work.
So does the new plan (does it have a name) replace existing plans, or is it just piled on with the rest?
You know, the more I think about it, I would enjoy having an underwater house with some strong windows, just so long I could keep it leak proof and get flood insurance.
It would be nice to wake up to watching fish swim by your bedroom, and a few lights outside would really do some interesting reflected lights. Just would not like to wake up to a tiger or great white eying me up.
Just a few silly flights of fantasy, and to poke fun of all the nautical words used in wall street, "float a stock", etc.
Just found a few minutes of "econ time" and put in a comment on your poll. I don't think the mortgage and treasury market spreads are going to change overly much when the Fed finally takes its foot off the gas pedal. But I think as the last years' stream of fresh, fungible cash dries up, and yet the underlying debt-deflation continues, we'll see all the markets struggle, including the stock market.
Meanwhile, I've run the unemployment claims for 1998-2005 through my graphing tool to see whether 2010 resembles 2004, and it does (in the sense that claims haven't yet returned to "boom" levels, and are stuck midway between the prior boom and the prior bust), except with higher numbers.
Good comments. I don't think the demand destruction is priced in. How would it? Right now there is a market including FedGov. There's no anticipatory mechanism that has pricing power as long as the competition remains.
Our old house in MD had a basement. The previous owner was an alcoholic housepainter who'd left dozens of half-empty paint cans underneath the basement stairs. Cool, I thought when we moved in, free paint.
A week later it rained like hell, a solid vertical column of water for hours and hours while we were away. When I got back, I went down into the basement to see if it had flooded. Ohhhh, yes, about a foot deep. Turns out that some of the old cans of paint were rusted and broke open when they all got jostled in the tide, so to speak. The water was covered almost everywhere with big dirty rainbows of oil-based housepaint, floating on the surface...
I would enjoy having an underwater house with some strong windows
I think he's imagining something like Doctor No's giant aquarium,...uhmmmmm,..and sharks with lasers on their heads.
At least, that's how I remember the movie.
and descended in an elevator for a formal dinner with gracious Dr. No in his private study next to his giant aquarium with a huge glass observation panel.
Now that is a nice picture. But You really would want a tunnel driveway in.
It's a real pain to scuba your groceries down, salty breakfast cereal just does not taste right.
If I'm going to dream, might as well dream big. Of course your never get the building permits past the tree hugers.
But in any case, this would not be nice to see waking up. http://www.trekearth.com/gallery/photo33289.htm
Man I STILL don't understand the secret second payment thing from yesterday. A second holder using their power to deny a short sale to ask for for money is a reasonable and legal way of trying to get something back from their stupid loan. But asking for it to be kept off of the HUD form transforms it into a federal crime. So what is their motivation to turn tough negotiation into criminal behavior? I just don't see how their bargaining position is changed by whether the payment that they're asking for is on the HUD closing form or not. "Pay us and we go away, don't and you can't sell." So why open themselves up to criminal prosecution?
Re: underwater homes. There's nothing like adding a few hours of decompression to your morning commute.
Re: old basements. In my house, the outlets in the basement are set about two feet off of the floor. You have to assume that's to avoid electrical shorts if it floods.
It’s “official”: 2009 was a really bad year. The dollar value of new construction starts last year fell 26%, according to McGraw-Hill Construction’s December data. This follows annual declines of 13% in 2008 and 7% in 2007. Adding a new twist to the downward cycle was a 33% decline in the non-residential building market, which was even deeper than the 31% decline registered by the home building market. Despite a massive influx of stimulus spending, the non-building market finished last year 9% below 2008’s total. In the non-residential building market, the commercial sector was down 47%, stores and shopping centers were off 42%, and warehouse construction tumbled 62%. However, the largest year-to-year decline was 66% for hotel and motel construction.
edit: I read this article at the Hall this morning. I'll look to see if there are newer issues that point out the 2010 forecast. It's behind a paywall online.
morning inflation news to add to the inflation v deflation debate
Canada - Canada’s core inflation rate **unexpectedly **accelerated last month
Asia - In many countries, the inflation genie is leaping out of the bottle at Olympic speed, generating the biggest swings in year-on-year consumer price indices in the region since the 1997-98 Asian financial -crisis.
With all this doom and gloom I finally got our family into some real bikes the other day. Haven't ridden in 15 years, thankfully "it's like riding a bike" you never really forget. Hoping to take off my evil twin and get back down to a healthy size. Already clocked close to 10 miles in less than 24 hours, not so bad for being out of shape.
Our family is looking for a larger home, but we are in the very casual stage. Every few months we look at a place, decide it's still overpriced and go back home for now. Our home will be paid off in the next year or two so we are in no rush to buy into this ZIRP manipulation.
I'm pretty sure that would be things like dams, bridges, power plants, highways and so on.
Despite a massive influx of stimulus spending, the non-building market finished last year 9% below 2008’s total.
This doesn't bode well for my prospects this year.
In the non-residential building market, the commercial sector was down 47%, stores and shopping centers were off 42%, and warehouse construction tumbled 62%. However, the largest year-to-year decline was 66% for hotel and motel construction.
The overhang in CRE is at least not getting precipitously bigger. I was talking with someone recently who suggested that in a couple of years building will again pick up its pace since tenants don't like to move into "used" digs.
The overhang in CRE is at least not getting precipitously bigger. I was talking with someone recently who suggested that in a couple of years building will again pick up its pace since tenants don't like to move into "used" digs. Quest
I think they would be surprised what long term depressed revenue and earning will do to a company.
Just some guy in his basement. snicker
At least they got you at the top of the list. Congrats.
JP, "some random guy in his basement"
Actually my office is on the first floor ... luckily they wasn't about me.
best wishes
If only those bloggers weren't spewing information.
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Like, you could, like, totally, you know, what type of car, you know, like, broward, is getting and stuff.
"Snarky!" FTW!
Bill and Ken<
Fine work, gentlemen.
Fortunately for CR there aren't many basements in CDM.
Congrats CR!!
Congrats, CR, on being the first name out among 'the top blogs.'
"They" made their name in 2005??? Who was on your team then?
JP wrote:
California home with basement? Yet to see one.
Bernanke goes for broke... literally.
bernanke wants to eliminate reserve requirements completely: Tech Ticker, Yahoo! Finance
He even looks a little crazed in the photo. Nice touch.
Okay... Which one of you is Steve?
Wants != "is possible". And it was a footnote.
As an aside, never believe a headline from an organization that would hire henry, let alone put him in charge of it.
Not me...
SNAFU wrote:
A good friend in Thousand Oaks has one. The house was a custom built for a LDS family.
Truth be told, the amount of effort that CR puts out every day for the content, it is very very difficult for very many blogs to do the same kind of work. The video mentions 'there are thousands' of blogs out there. Blogs that show similar amounts of data based effort, can be counted in the teens, IMHO.
JP wrote:
Clearly, you did not watch the last presidential election.
oh, do we commentors get a thanks too?
Bill kudos to you!
Thanks.
(ps Tanta still rocks!)
I think Steve is a
er
The WSJ reporter was a babe.
She's probably reading this?
Excuse me, m'am, but you're a babe.
Him? Not so much.
Congrats CR. Hoocoodanode that 3 of my top 5 reads were listed here?
REBear wrote:
---not old enough to drink.
I keep getting this ad that tells me the trick of a tiny belly....
Go away I say tomorrow if BFF and some things are necessary...
actually, homedad, he was a babe too.
Or no, maybe a dude. Or whatever.
Ok, I'll bite.....what magic is going to happen such that the supply of foreclosed homes is going to go down starting after next month. Can I get me one of them ANALyst jobs?
Yeah, I knew the writing thing wasn't easy but jeez...
Course, Bill's got the Fed, SEC, FDIC, TBTF, etc. writing the scripts so there's no dearth of material.
No offense, CR.
We've just got one honkin' great posse of clowns riding around, tossing pies like no tomorrow.
Him? Not so much
depends on your preference...that was after all NY so alls is fine (I cant get my NY lispt to shine)
Garrison wrote:
---It's a dark hole; where we are going.
Boom!
Okay, in the interest of open-mindedness, he was a babe as well. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
But how seriously can I take a guy who has a big picture of Frankenstein on his computer screen?
SNAFU wrote:
Yeah, why is that? I've always wondered....
I can safely say that I've never been in a house in Canada that didn't have a basement.
I take that back; there are a few 1950's wartime houses that were slapped together with only a crawl space under them, but those are awfully rare. But I was in one of them.
Just a guy in his basement?
Bill's got friends in his basement.....

Many thanks to you and Ken for all that you do. Congrats for being at the top of the list.
I never would have guessed the WSJ even knew the West Coast existed never mind some guy in a plaid bathrobe and
in Orange County.
Just who in the MSM has done anything like the quality of reporting that CR and other blogs have? Gretchen?,Gretchen? "crickets"
Skeptical? check.
Snarky? check, at times.
Spewing information? I would think I tend to chug it down, while CR presents good information in a formats that even this monkey can understand.
Nice that you got some props CR, you deserve them.
CR Has been made!
noob goldberg wrote:
Don't know for sure noob, got to do with the lack of subzero winters; I am guessing.
Florida doesn't have basements either - at least not south FL. I believe it's the high water table issue.
You could, like, totally, you know, like, send Veronica, like an email, and stuff, like, you know, dude.
veronica.dagher@dowjones.com
Self-edited by hd43.
Shouldn't have written that.
OT
This story is being picked up all over the world:
Final destination Iran? - Herald Scotland
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Final destination Iran?
Exclusive: Rob Edwards
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Published on 14 Mar 2010
Hundreds of powerful US “bunker-buster” bombs are being shipped from California to the British island of Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean in preparation for a possible attack on Iran.
The Sunday Herald can reveal that the US government signed a contract in January to transport 10 ammunition containers to the island. According to a cargo manifest from the US navy, this included 387 “Blu” bombs used for blasting hardened or underground structures.
Experts say that they are being put in place for an assault on Iran’s controversial nuclear facilities. There has long been speculation that the US military is preparing for such an attack, should diplomacy fail to persuade Iran not to make nuclear weapons.
Although Diego Garcia is part of the British Indian Ocean Territory, it is used by the US as a military base under an agreement made in 1971. The agreement led to 2,000 native islanders being forcibly evicted to the Seychelles and Mauritius.
The Sunday Herald reported in 2007 that stealth bomber hangers on the island were being equipped to take bunker-buster bombs.
homedad43 wrote:
Market Talk » Blog Archive » Fuldenstein’s Monster
I believe this was the article.
Older homes,and those not in coastal California frequently have basements.Hard to find a house in lovely Yreka or Bieber without one.
But how seriously can I take a guy who has a big picture of Frankenstein on his computer screen?
homedad pleeze - that was a prized illustration done by Herman Kellar in 1954 who now is put on a podium as a prized mid-century surrealist
homedad43 wrote:
And I'm in my basement spewing ... information ... with a snarky tone.
in florida we have no basements either.
Congrats cr
Four more wars!
Four more wars!
Really? I just thought that it was Lon Chaney. Shows what I know.
OT: Forget tungsten worry about fake carbon instead.
Page not found « Watts Up With That?
Europe’s emissions trading system was in uproar yesterday amid a mounting scandal over “recycled” carbon permits.
Two carbon exchanges were forced to suspend trading as panic hit investors fearful that they had bought invalid permits.
BlueNext and Nord Pool, the French and Nordic exchanges, suspended trading in certificates of emission reduction (CERs) when it emerged that some had been illegally reused.
Concern that used and worthless permits were circulating caused the spot price of the certificates to collapse, from €12 per tonne of carbon to less than €1 .
Or one could always call Veronica.
Veronica Dagher - Voting Machines - ProCon.org
212-416-2261
Tom Stone wrote:
No one. We know that already.
SNAFU wrote:
Somebody in construction would know better: The foundation needs to go below the frost line in order to be solid. (Constant freezing and thawing will wreak havoc with the foundation otherwise.) The seismic activity of CA is another reason why folks omit the basement, which might otherwise be more living/storage space.
I think the real reason Steve likes CR is the commentariat.
holy crap, liz is still here?
I thought that you passed out from the percocet. Sorry for the graphic remark, m'am.
Also sorry about the leg. Seriously.
Sorry HG, but that's a little scary. I'll pass.
Health Bill Would Add 3.8% Tax on Investment Income (Update4) - Bloomberg.com
This should get the sideline money back into the market.
The nuts are running the Asylum.
...
SNAFU wrote:
The conclusion I think we came to here a few nights ago was that the reason they had made this public was just to put a bit more pressure on Iran and put them in there place. As one commenter noted, it was akin to parking an aircraft carrier just outside the nautical boundary of a country.
If war was actually intended, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't put "Bunker-Buster Bombs" on the manifest. Or ship them privately, for that matter.
Sorry homedad, maybe you could text Veronica.
Tom Stone wrote:
Kramer and Kudlow.
Outsider wrote:
For all we know, he's the snarkiest one of the bunch.
Come on, Steve, stick you hand up and identify yourself
shill wrote:
The Nuts are running the Ass Slum.
For CR: A+

For LL:
For Ken:
*noob goldberg wrote:
Missed that discussion. Sorry for the repeat.
CR, seeing headlines like this would really seem to point toward a double dip recession (as housing led us in and is leading us in again). Why do you think we won't double dip?
broward wrote:
Broward, quit stealing Liz's percocet. She's an invalid, for goodness sake.
homedad43 wrote:
Your wish is granted.
Ron Jeremy as Vincenzo Lipazzi.
The Boondock Saints (1999) - Full cast and crew
SNAFU wrote:
Oh no worries, it was brief an an overnight affair, if I recall. I'm pretty sure every topic is discussed at least three or four times here, just to catch all the different timezones
Took percocet once and hallucinated like no end. Ghastly ones, too.
No thanks. I'll pass.
Foreclosures are going to peak (again) in April 2010? I don't think they are counting the re-defaults from the permanent HAMP mods.
reusing things is green. right.
just had a big fight to get my perkocet. I won. local med types not used to people who don't take no for an answer.
g'night folks.
Good day HD
lawyerliz wrote:
Perkocet is awesome.
I had it twice after surgery, I could go chop down a tree the following day.
lawyerliz wrote:
My wife went home from surgery with a sizeable bottle. She's 100 lbs, so it was really a large pile of pills for her.
The internet claims that the street value was $25/pill. If true, we could have turned a profit on her surgery with the leftovers.
(Note to Feds: That was A JOKE!)
lawyerliz wrote:
I still have a few left over from my surgery. My favorite hallucination was when the ICU wall swung back to reveal some extra rooms that weren't there before.
noob goldberg wrote:
I've seen basements in California, all are older houses that are built on hillsides. Newer houses on hillsides tend to be built on stilts.
The way it was explained to me by my mother was that when you build a house the foundation has to extend two feet below the frost line or the freeze thaw cycle will damage it and the house. In the north east the frost line is deep enough that it makes sense to make a full basement out of it. Where in California the frost line is nil.
Older houses in California have crawl spaces, newer ones are built on a slab because it takes less labor and material.
lawyerliz wrote:
Your credit card has already been billed.
Greenspan blames Russia for The Crash.
Alan Greenspan traces housing bubble to collapse of the Soviet Union - The Globe and Mail
Wow. Mr. Magoo, indeed.
California has a BIG range of climates.it hit 40 below the year I was born in Yreka.No frost line? been to Tahoe?
Comrade Gibbon wrote:
But you all don't know what you're missing having that dark, humid, smelly hole just off the kitchen. Actually it's not that bad, I'm currently typing in the basement as we speak. It doubles the size of the house, gives a place for the utilities off the main floor, and keeps my beer chilled in the cold-storage. The problem is always groundwater (sump pumps are electric) and humidity in the summer, of course.
Tom Stone wrote:
Not to mention the women in L.A.
both NorCal and Socal have very different cultures not even taking the east/west divide into account,Dawg talks about the 8 Californias for a very good reason.Google Yreka,riverbank,oxnard.Then Carlsbad,San Luis Obispo and San Francisco finish with Bieber,South Lake Tahoe and Lake elsinore.Toss in Marysville/redbluff and Oakland for spice.
If you want to get your script kiddie on, I recommend:
1) backtrack linux
2) ALFA Network 1000mW AWUS036H High Power Wireless G 802.11g WiFi USB Adapter
3) p0841 packet replay + 20000 initialization vectors
Any WEP network in range is yours -- in minutes (or so I've been told)
i YELLED AT NURSE THEN MADE NICE. Was tempted bur did not call her nurse RATCHED. sERIOUSly, THE AMOUNT OF TIME SPENT DOCUMENTING the unimPORTANT is absurd. andthe more documentation the less trust there will be
Broward,I had a WONDERFUL time the last time I was in LA.I was helping set up master's exhibits at UCLA (Like a thesis for artists) which might have affected my experience.WONDERFUL times.
Liz,if you are on them long enough for physical addiction,try a good acupuncturist and avoid the withdrawal symptoms.I was on synthetic heroin for several years after my back injury and acupuncture worked like a charm.
noob goldberg wrote:
Victoria ... I think it's because it's mostly solid rock.
i may do that. a good chinese med place close to where I LIVE.
Tom Stone wrote:
I picked up a tractor-trailer full of lumber from northwest of Reno once, it may have been around Westwood/Susanville, but I'm not certain. I do recall that it was not very warm (in January).
It was also a little surreal hauling a load of lumber from NoCal to southern Ontario, Canada; I imagine the only thing that would have felt weirder would have been hauling a load of lettuce from Southern Ontario back to California.
Bubblisimo Gerkinov wrote:
Fair enough, the ones I was in on the lower mainland all had basements (but I've only been in a few houses there).
We have solid rock everywhere here in Ottawa too, but they just blast through it. They're doing sewer repairs about a half-mile down the road, and periodically the house bangs and rattles like one of the kids just fell down hard. Spooks me every time, but it's just them blasting out rock.
Synthetic heroin? Dilaudid?
YEAH I WAS IN DILAWHATEVER TOO
broward wrote:
I used to think he was simply an irresponsible puppet ... but the more he speaks out in the media, the more I think he's actually certifiable.
NO HALLUCINATIONS FOR ME. rats
noob goldberg wrote:
Vancouver has a lot of walkout basements (like half basements).
After reading the thread, the high water table in coastal areas thing makes sense.
Liz,
There are a few basements in Southern Florida. I had read an article about expensive intracostal waterfront properties where the owners wanted to expand but had nowhere to go... but down. They were spending a fortune building their own little seawalls.
Why would anyone need a basement for storage or an extra room to hang out in? Isn't that what a garage is for?
Wow, those guys with the National Train Day should give CR a little bonus for the extra exposure.
Oxtail wrote:
Here in SoCal we have "MiniStor" warehousing for our special crap. I can see it for grandma's Dusenberg or temporary storage but I swear people don't do a cost analysis.
Rob Dawg wrote:
Are people living in those things yet?
Tom Stone wrote:
What? No Death Valley?
Bubblisimo Gerkinov wrote:
I rented one for a short time a couple of years ago, and there was a clause in the contract that forbid it... Also the manager kept his locks on all the vacant units to keep the squatters out... In spite of all that, there was a story about some woman had moved into one and then someone put a lock on the door and she spent about 30 days in there before someone found her...
Lots of internet articles about turning shipping containers into housing, and at one time I think in Stockton there was a homeless camp where people were living in those steel boxes...
"Barclays is projecting the supply will increase to 733,000 in April 2010, and then gradually decline."
Multiply this number by 3 or 4. There will 300,000 notices of sale in CA in the next year. Between 2008 and 2013, 2 million Ca homes will go through foreclosure or short sale.
Albuquerque has very few basements and a high water table is NOT the problem
Slabs, I assume, are much cheaper.
some investor guy wrote:
You are thinking that Barney Frank's request to the big banks to write of junior liens and reduce principal, will come to naught?
US eCONomy continues to fail to recover.
FedEx Profit Doubles, Aided by Strong Business in Asia - NY Times
Led by exports from Asia, FedEx reported an 18 percent jump in volume from its International Priority business. But average daily domestic package volume rose just 1 percent, reflecting the weak American economy.
some investor guy wrote:
Party time in Cali!!!
Bubblisimo Gerkinov wrote:
Around here people use them for band rehearsal space. Live, no; hang out, yes.
If I was going homeless and I still had some cash, I'd buy a gym membership in a place with lockers and long hours. You keep clean, have a home base most of the day, and a place to keep your stuff. Saw a guy do it once, two lockers down from mine. Took me months to figure out he was living out of his locker.
mhdoc wrote:
Comrade Gibbon's mother is right, the more I think of it. With enough mandatory frost depth, it makes sense to go a bit deeper and double the size of the house. Slabs are definitely cheaper, but don't hold up well where it freezes.
Heck, with my brother-in-laws house he almost decided to put prestressed hollow core concrete panels down for his garage floor so that he could use the 14x30 foot space under the garage as additional living/workshop area. Given the slope of the property and the need to raise the entire property up, he ended up having 8 foot walls under his garage, and in the end he backfilled the entire 14x30x8 foot chuck and poured a slab over it. However, during construction when you're standing there, looking at this vast amount of unused space thats going to get buried, it seems a bit wasteful and inefficient to just fill it full of dirt.
EDIT:
again. And I'm going to keep Bob Dobb's gym membership idea in mind. You never know
mhdoc wrote:
Do those slabs have axles?
http://fadein.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/trailer-trash-hi-rise11.jpg
What's the deal with the American's health care brouhaha?
The teabaggers seem to have their shorts in a knot, but that doesn't say much.
The 'rents home near Pasadena has one. House was built in '31. That's the only one I've seen.
Bubblisimo Gerkinov wrote:
Look closely and you will see some shipping containers in there holding up some of the trailers... the trailers look like pretty old models, but the whole thing is rather neat and the property is well kept ... there is even a greenhouse.... Maybe the Traylor-Park couple lives there....
Bubblisimo Gerkinov wrote:
Like we can afford another govt program - or that it would even work at all... the poor have medicaid, the elderly have medicare, the working population for the most part has medical coverage at work. If you dont, you can buy a plan from any number of providers - It's not cheap, but we are talking about health care of today with MRI's and CT scans, miracle drugs, longer lifetimes, prosthetics... If you want to consume it you had better figure out how to pay for it....
ShadowInventory wrote:
So does the new plan (does it have a name) replace existing plans, or is it just piled on with the rest?
Bubblisimo Gerkinov wrote:
Article 1, Section 7 of the US Constitution.
lawyerliz wrote:
You are the best!
Rob Dawg wrote:
People are pissed at how the bill originated, not with the bill itself?
You know, the more I think about it, I would enjoy having an underwater house with some strong windows, just so long I could keep it leak proof and get flood insurance.
It would be nice to wake up to watching fish swim by your bedroom, and a few lights outside would really do some interesting reflected lights. Just would not like to wake up to a tiger or great white eying me up.
Just a few silly flights of fantasy, and to poke fun of all the nautical words used in wall street, "float a stock", etc.
Hi Rob -
Just found a few minutes of "econ time" and put in a comment on your poll. I don't think the mortgage and treasury market spreads are going to change overly much when the Fed finally takes its foot off the gas pedal. But I think as the last years' stream of fresh, fungible cash dries up, and yet the underlying debt-deflation continues, we'll see all the markets struggle, including the stock market.
Meanwhile, I've run the unemployment claims for 1998-2005 through my graphing tool to see whether 2010 resembles 2004, and it does (in the sense that claims haven't yet returned to "boom" levels, and are stuck midway between the prior boom and the prior bust), except with higher numbers.
Investing for Sustainable Gains has the details.
Tom Stone wrote:
Try Bridgeport---
Bubblisimo Gerkinov wrote:
No, how Pelosi is planning on using a non-recorded "deemed passed" process to provide cover from the fallout.
Kauai_Kahuna wrote:
You want this place.
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Arts/Arts_/gallery/2008/11/03/water1.jpg
Congrats on the story, from member 360.
Can I please take my poll down now? What was I thinking... does anyone know?
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Good comments. I don't think the demand destruction is priced in. How would it? Right now there is a market including FedGov. There's no anticipatory mechanism that has pricing power as long as the competition remains.
Our old house in MD had a basement. The previous owner was an alcoholic housepainter who'd left dozens of half-empty paint cans underneath the basement stairs. Cool, I thought when we moved in, free paint.
A week later it rained like hell, a solid vertical column of water for hours and hours while we were away. When I got back, I went down into the basement to see if it had flooded. Ohhhh, yes, about a foot deep. Turns out that some of the old cans of paint were rusted and broke open when they all got jostled in the tide, so to speak. The water was covered almost everywhere with big dirty rainbows of oil-based housepaint, floating on the surface...
Now that was a mess, all right.
Neat new picture Ken. I think I mentioned that movie a few months back.
No, that's not underwater. This is: Hello Down There! | Hoocoodanode?
Yeah! Business is done in LV, now to visit some friends and will be home by tomorrow night!
Must remember to pick up some of the world's best jerky at Alien's in Baker on the drive home.
And congrats to CR!
YouTube - Booker T & the MG's - green onions - mod classic 60s
Bubblisimo Gerkinov wrote:
I think he's imagining something like Doctor No's giant aquarium,...uhmmmmm,..and sharks with lasers on their heads.
At least, that's how I remember the movie.
Now that is a nice picture. But You really would want a tunnel driveway in.
It's a real pain to scuba your groceries down, salty breakfast cereal just does not taste right.
If I'm going to dream, might as well dream big. Of course your never get the building permits past the tree hugers.
But in any case, this would not be nice to see waking up.
http://www.trekearth.com/gallery/photo33289.htm
Maybe this?
Unique underwater restaurant with stunning views » The WVb
sdtfs - Yes, now that I would call underwater.
That is really nice.
Time to call it a night,
Got to get some rest for BFF.
Good morning, all, very glad to see CR getting credit! Lots of very clever commenters too. Have learned a great deal.
Mr Slippery wrote:
Yes. That is all...
Good morning and welcome to the world. Some time ago, there was a survey done of CR commentariat and about 4% were described as addicted.
Love this place, but don't think that I'm in that category.
And can't wait for the SuperBowl on Sunday. Just wonder if CSpan will be running new commercials from GoDaddy and Snickers.
And now back to the stuff of life.
Man I STILL don't understand the secret second payment thing from yesterday. A second holder using their power to deny a short sale to ask for for money is a reasonable and legal way of trying to get something back from their stupid loan. But asking for it to be kept off of the HUD form transforms it into a federal crime. So what is their motivation to turn tough negotiation into criminal behavior? I just don't see how their bargaining position is changed by whether the payment that they're asking for is on the HUD closing form or not. "Pay us and we go away, don't and you can't sell." So why open themselves up to criminal prosecution?
Re: underwater homes. There's nothing like adding a few hours of decompression to your morning commute.
Re: old basements. In my house, the outlets in the basement are set about two feet off of the floor. You have to assume that's to avoid electrical shorts if it floods.
Engineering News Record -- Construction Fell 26% in 2009
edit: I read this article at the Hall this morning. I'll look to see if there are newer issues that point out the 2010 forecast. It's behind a paywall online.
morning inflation news to add to the inflation v deflation debate
Canada - Canada’s core inflation rate **unexpectedly **accelerated last month
Asia - In many countries, the inflation genie is leaping out of the bottle at Olympic speed, generating the biggest swings in year-on-year consumer price indices in the region since the 1997-98 Asian financial -crisis.
Mmm. The non-building market.
With all this doom and gloom I finally got our family into some real bikes the other day. Haven't ridden in 15 years, thankfully "it's like riding a bike" you never really forget. Hoping to take off my evil twin and get back down to a healthy size. Already clocked close to 10 miles in less than 24 hours, not so bad for being out of shape.
Our family is looking for a larger home, but we are in the very casual stage. Every few months we look at a place, decide it's still overpriced and go back home for now. Our home will be paid off in the next year or two so we are in no rush to buy into this ZIRP manipulation.
I'm pretty sure that would be things like dams, bridges, power plants, highways and so on.
This doesn't bode well for my prospects this year.
The overhang in CRE is at least not getting precipitously bigger. I was talking with someone recently who suggested that in a couple of years building will again pick up its pace since tenants don't like to move into "used" digs.
Gooooooood Morning,
ers!
Anonymous Bosch wrote:
I think they would be surprised what long term depressed revenue and earning will do to a company.
I agree, The Lorax. To me, "Every dark cloud has a darker center."
Good
ning, Gnome. You're going to love this...
Congratulations CR Registered User #5000 - cipherex
SNAFU wrote:
To date, requests for voluntary principal writedowns haven't been very successful.
Very nice CR. National Train Day was a an excellent post.
NCAA Bracketology: Man vs. Monkey - CBS News
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The supply or REO would go way down if the banks would just reply to offers.
We have been waiting for 2 weeks to get a response from B of A.