Remember they've been adding banks quicker than they have been removing them - so this list could get to 1,000 later this year!
The additions come in groups when the formal actions are released ... of course not all the banks will fail (historically only of the banks on the list fail, but the percentage will probably be higher than that now)
I'm kind of curious about the culture at a place like that. The culture at a place where layoffs are coming within the next year is pretty toxic. We had a CEO replacement (CEO retired) where I was. Everyone was running around like a chicken with his head cut off trying to justify his existence.
Longer - that only assumes not additional banks added. See this from CR's original posting...
There were several additions and removals during the week that left the Unofficial Problem Bank List totals almost unchanged. This week there are 640 institutions with assets of $325.6 billion compared to 641 institutions and $325.5 billion of assets last week.
Means the NET reduction was one bank out of 640... at this rate it will take 640 weeks or 12 years 3 months.
I'm kind of curious about the culture at a place like that. The culture at a place where layoffs are coming within the next year is pretty toxic. We had a CEO replacement (CEO retired) where I was. Everyone was running around like a chicken with his head cut off trying to justify his existence.
You should talk to my wife - she has been through multiple waves of layoffs - rehires - more layoffs. The place is absolutely schizo. FDIC can't be too unlike that.
The interesting weeks are when we accumulate... add more bad banks than are euthanized by Sheila. In those weeks the horizon goes to infinity and beyond.
daylight savings means we should see the standard, "gas prices went up due to daylight savings" articles.
I've yet to see any justification for this rationale, I'm assuming it must be that many people are too stupid to realize they have headlights. Or it is completely bogus like most other explanations for market moves.
I think he was posting last night. I checked in quickly to see whether sheila brought home the bacon for me (shakes fist in her general direction) but didn't stick around to read.
So you are saying the banks are merely threading water?
I'm saying Sheila isn't doing her job. Move the product or move on.
Turn over = Inventory divided by [Outgoing minus Incoming].
If she keeps adding to the incoming [new banks on the list] then she needs to increase the rate of the outgoing [BFF closures & cures]... else this is going to take FOREVER.
I have read that daylight savings time was actually instituted at the request of the Kingsford charcoal company who paid handsomely into campaign coffers for the law... Kids going to school!! hahaha!!!
If I were hired by FDIC, I really wouldn't be too worried about the 2 year thing.
I'd bet it's just so they can keep you on the books as a form of "temporary" employee, without rights of permanent employment, and all the difficulty in firing (and other benefits) that such status would provide. After two years, they'll just give as many 2-year extensions as they want, without ever offering permanence.
I keep losing time in my jalopy and the clock was off by about 48 minutes after a few years, and my wife coud take it no more and ruined my time-space continuum experiment by setting the clock back to reality.
(He could reset it 48 minutes a minute or 2 each day,
and gaslight his wife, except she'd no doubt figure it out
in a day. I image Juvie is ummm, lively to live with. )
I wonder - what is the average hit to the DIF for each closed bank? Even if they could move faster, maybe they are dragging their feet to preserve the DIF, and hope for enough of a recovery that all these banks can survive or at least merge under market conditions....
They also violate the "FIFO" rule of inventory -- first in, first out. There's no reason that there's not a clearly-defined (and timed) pathway for the resolution of enforcement actions -- some of the banks have been on there for five years, for goodness sakes; many others have been closed without even passing through purgatory status. It's chaos.
Sure, at first I thought the car was embezzling from me, and it knew all about how I had been the cause of it's assorted bumps, bruises, panes, etc, along with the ignomy of being run into a few times by other autos obviously envious of mine from behind, and maybe it thought I wouldn't miss a second here, a second there?
Daylight saving time - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
That just reminded me of the billion dollar boondoggle in 2007 when they changed the DST change dates. I had to update a whole server farm, some of them manually because patches were not available.
OK, discussing DST is a bit like discussing the future of ultra-short EFT's (yeah, that hurts) but a quick story.
A few years ago I was at an Elderhostel in Canada and found that (among other reasons) the Canadians had a hate on for Bush II as around 2006 he unilaterally declared the US would move DST up by four weeks; this just a month or so before it was to happen.
The Canadians, being good (subservient) neighbors, had been adhering to the time changes in neighboring US states. But this blindsided them as they were all set for the expected date and it was quite a deal to make changes so late.
They were not happy.
EDIT: Jives with sm_landlord's comment; I had the year wrong.
Kauai_Kahuna wrote: Executive Service level, and yes it is up there in the zone of it's who you know and bl..
So in other words, it's like every other mammalian hierarchy, past or present?
I dunno, the opposite seems to be merely not going broke.
Return on capital versus return of capital. Short rates seem to indicate that the declines are not finished. S&P returns 60% over the last year while Ts are less than 2%. That doesn't persist just like the oil/natgas ratio. Something has to give.
Based on Friday's experience, seems like s under the
mattress may be the safest example. They SAY I got my money back, but if
they hadn't yanked it back, what protection would I have have had.
The fire, reported at 5:42 p.m. and believed to have been intentionally set, caused an estimated $5.5 million in damage to the 14,000-square-foot house at 226 Keowa St. and $3 million to its contents.
Police said they are investigating evidence that hinted at a hate crime toward the victim after the words "payback haole" were etched into a van parked near the residence in the Honolua Ridge subdivision.
Brown, a Realtor, estimated the damage was higher, at about $10 million.
So said God who made the light
That spreads above the morning sea,
And but for Christ His heart’s delight
He would so punish such as we
Pavel
March 13, 2010
There is enough prejudiced to go around between all groups here, so it kind of evens out.
Reminds of the SNL skit with Eddie Murphy. "Kill my landlord" - He rented me a room I couldn't afford, kill my landlord, kill my landlord.
the onewest guys are really trying to overome a PR campaign that is not climbing the wall of worry, its more like a wall of "its armageddoning all over again, unexpectedly also too"
I am soothing myself by reading again about the Black Plague.
Things and people have rather got better since then.
The author compares the Black Plague with Thermonuclear War,
with some justification. People went crazy, blaming lepers and beggars,
and then they settled on Jews to beat up on.
Some time before the plague--25? There had been a horrific
famine. (as opposed to a "normal" famine.) Europe was teetering on the brink with over population
for quite a while.
The thing is, we don't want to deal with exponents and power laws with
regard to population control because the world is sporadically extremely
dangerous and deadly so we HAVE to be able to breed like lemmings
after megadeaths to survive. As do other animals and plants.
Call it unintelligent design.
Then, when we are really overcrowded and pressured, we do
awful things to each other. Plus, in most times and places, when
somebody in the upper classes falls, it is very very far to fall, so
they try to steal and/or hoard as much as possible.
Europe was teetering on the brink with over population for quite a while.
Overcrowded cities with poor sanitation contributes to, if not causes, plagues. Breeding like lemmings invites megadeaths. The more we eliminate the common causes of death, the more we invite the uncommon causes.
Yeah, but the Black Plague came from China. Marmots and fleas
and plague germs, oh no. Marmots and fleas and plague germs, oh,
no.
If populations had been lower, then maybe fewer pecentage wise would
have died. But really, who knows?
You can blame the Mongols, I suppose, but not for the usual reason,
but the reason that they opened up trade over the continent, which is
supposed to be a good thing.
LL: Now there are 210 silent guests on line.
Say something, I'm bored, and I'm dangerous when I'm bored.
OK, I used to post a few years ago..wouldn't want you to get dangerous, Liz.
Since we're OT, I'll refer to the previous thread, where we were talking about the system being broken.
"A system that can continue will continue." i.e., a revolution can succeed only when a system is on the brink of collapse. This comes from social studies (I won't call it science), mainly history, which seems apropos. When is a system broken beyond repair?
Hard to say. Being ethnic Chinese, I note that ~5k years or recorded history includes many interregna (AKA warlord periods) which occurred every few centuries. But the traditional Chinese system did continue until ~1800.
Maybe 2 centuries in the future, historians will look at the resolution of our current crisis and say, hoocoodanode? **
The Black Plague came from China via the Turks. If you live like civilized people with a functioning medical profession, the plague was a minor problem. If you live in squalor with superstitious cranks in positions of authority, especially the so-called "doctors", the plague brings nations near to collapse.
Now there are 210 silent guests on line.
Say something, I'm bored, and I'm dangerous when I'm bored.
"After the US peaked in the early '70s we used imported oil to keep the party going, but that was more expensive - not in terms of notional $ per barrel, but in the cost of an expanding empire and the military to drive it. Also we created a culture of debt to go along with it, and naturally the sociopaths figured out how to milk a population who had accepted absurd debt levels as "normal". Once people became confused between debt and wealth, we saw no need to actually produce anything and accepted farming all that out. That in turn created large industrial rivals for that already expensive oil (or at least accelerated that process).
Just as the debt culture was manipulated to create a bubble of insane proportions with world demand at an all time high, the world production peaked and the increase in fuel cost popped the bubble and kicked a teetering economy over the edge. Now the party is getting very strange, and it might be nice to go home, but it's somehow hard to find the door...."
--Twilight
My take is that Mao really tried to revolutionize Chinese culture, with unfortunately nasty methods, but he didn't really succeed. Be that as it may, I've been quite impressed by the cosmopolitan outlook and good English of young people coming here from mainland China.
I can't believe Heritage Bank of Commerce, San Jose, CA is on the list.
I advised my wife to put her inheritance money there 2 years ago because it had the top ranking with... somebody, I forget who put the list together. Saw it on the Internet.
Mao, Deng and their successors are pretty much traditional emperors, just with different titles and non-hereditary--
Good point, The Cultural Revolution was about feudalism, and Confucian family dogma, and had little to do with Marx.
China is a country that is a Corporate Feudal State.
And in other religious news, the evening news was beating
up on the pope--a confrontation from before he became pope
was actually shown--for failure to get rid of pedophiles.
And this fundy
Texas guy is changing history and schoolbooks for the
nation.
trouble is, the report wasn't specific enough to be interesting.
For example they had some pro-slavery quotes from Jefferson
Davis. (This was supposed to be a bad thing.)
I think that reading them would be interesting in a horrific
sort of way, and could spark some heavy high school discussion.
And, surprise, surprise, he doesn't like Darwin.
He got unelected, but doesn't plan to change his ways during his
lame duckness.
I drive around in the golf cart with the hub. The course
is really cheap and really awful. He thinks he is too bad a
golfer to play on a better course.
China is a country that is a Corporate Feudal State.
I don't know about feudal--the hereditary aristocracy only had the power to appoint bureaucrats to administer the far-flung provinces. But it is true that that the current system is not Marxist.
The official FDIC problem bank list with 750 banks is officially secret. These are just the 640 banks we know (unofficially) that are in bad shape. There are at least 110 more banks that we don't know (unofficially) that are being considered for pizza parties.
Communism & feudalism is pretty similar... peasant is to comrade what lord is to party boss.
Well, we are not speaking of Marx, but Russia in 1935.
One must give the Soviets credit on some levels--
In 50 years, they went from a country of 70% of the population was feudal serfs, to putting a man in space.
Of course, hierarchy always favors elite's. just look at the USSR, or the USA.
texas eliminating teaching the doctrine of separation of church and state
emphasizing that america is a jewish christian country
taking jefferson out of the discussion of the enlightenment and replacing him with aquinas
(jefferson was a deist)
downplaying some civil rights and cultural diversity issues
some other stuff....., who cares
when i spent a summer with my my parents who lived in san antonio
i was amazed at how many people when we were discussing science (geology..brother and dad oil exploration and marketing petro chem)
over and over they told me earth was 6000 years old and dinosaurs lived with adam an eve and then died out in noahs great flood which also btw carved out the grand canyon
In 50 years, they went from a country of 70% of the population was feudal serfs, to putting a man in space.
Of course, hierarchy always favors elite's. just look at the USSR, or the USA.
USSR had the most aggressive 'reinvestment' in 'capital' of any country at any time during those years [thirties] - almost none of the 'value added' went back to 'labor' as compensation. The only other time in modern history when that happened was the 'Gilded Age of Robber Barrons'. Oh the irony.
I got that from a class in Modern History I took in college.
over and over they told me earth was 6000 years old and dinosaurs lived with adam an eve and then died out in noahs great flood which also btw carved out the grand canyon
i was amazed.
The poor bastards are so frightened of the groundless nature of their desperate lives, that any story that makes some sense they will cling to, no matter how embarrassing or imagination challenged.
The poor bastards are so frightened of the groundless nature of their desperate lives, that any story that makes some sense they will cling to, no matter how embarrassing or imagination challenged.
i dont agree
most of the texans i met were friendly, seemed fairly fearless and enjoyed life..we got along great
but they seem to have been taught early and often to accept literal scriptural interpretations without question
probably if i was raised the same i would be just like that
however that, coupled with a more than a healthy does of confidence...almost arrogance, seems to make it unlikely the average person i met there would challenge the conventional wisdom
Same here, I like Texans, and have traveled with them in some very challenging situations.
But, they are grasping for solid ground in a freighting world, and, like most of humanity, basing their lives on story and myth, thinking heuristically rather than critically, and discounting the future.
The poor bastards are so frightened of the groundless nature of their desperate lives, that any story that makes some sense they will cling to, no matter how embarrassing or imagination challenged.
One of my wife's friends used to teach high school science. One of the local fundie churches teaches that men have different number of ribs than women (because Adam had a rib removed to make Eve). The church youth would come to class sure that this was true. She would show them models of male and female skeletons, and they've have a crisis of faith right there in third period.
That kind of "fact"-based faith is very rigid and very fragile. It only survives if you keep your fingers in your ears, eyes closed and sing "LA-LA-LA" constantly in a loud voice. None of which are good survival tactics in a changing world. While many fundie churches are tight-knit organizations with strong internal support systems for members, I will observe with interest how well such belief systems fare in the next ten years.
I will observe with interest how well such belief systems fare in the next ten years.
They may be vibrant and ascending in numbers.
A Corn Pone Hitler would seal the deal, and looking at the rise of right wing populism, it is a real probability.
""You tell me whar a man gits his corn pone, en I'll tell you what his 'pinions is."'
I :heart: Mark Twain
... Broadly speaking, there are none but corn-pone opinions. And broadly speaking, corn-pone stands for self-approval. Self-approval is acquired mainly from the approval of other people. The result is conformity. Sometimes conformity has a sordid business interest -- the bread-and-butter interest -- but not in most cases, I think.
They may be vibrant and ascending in numbers.
A Corn Pone Hitler would seal the deal, and looking at the rise of right wing populism, it is a real probability.
It is a possibility -- one I've readily admitted. But to be "vibrant and ascending in numbers," they'll have to deliver something to the populace. Security in some form; food, lodging, health care, whatever. The Nazis rose to power because they took care of their followers in a time when no one else was, and harnessed the rage. Some fundie or non-fundie outfit might do this, but I'm not sure the current members would be willing to bankroll it -- them being told all this time that all they have to do for salvation is get right with their personal savior. Pretty tight with their pocketbooks, many of them.
Security in some form; food, lodging, health care, whatever.
Mormons or LDS do that. They'll pay a couple months of rent, for new tires, etc., for members, even if the members haven't been active or tithed in years. In return, they'll ask the person to do some kind of work, work in the library (temple library), etc. According to a friend who was raised in the LDS church (but left in her 20's), at least in Salt Lake (probably elsewhere), the LDS had their own food bank, clothes for kids, etc. You "pay" for what you take by doing some kind of work for the church--there's always something to do, and it seems as though there's an effort to make sure that everyone can do something "useful." She also said that when she was in her 'teens, the church got so greedy, tithing for this, tithing for that, that members staged a kind of revolt & the higher ups (the council? Can't remember the name of those just below the top guy) backed off a bit.
Tim waiting for 2012 wrote: The Dropout Economy - 10 Ideas for the Next 10 Years - TIME
Pretty lame, but useful in that it is a definite sign that we are getting closer to capitulation, albeit capitulation fully engaged in and
The Dropout Economy - 10 Ideas for the Next 10 Years - TIME
"Some predictions....in the year 2050, the nation-state will still be the dominant form of political organization, with a few new nation-states added to the UN. The US will still be the dominant global economic and military power, even if China has a somewhat larger GDP because of its larger population. Most energy will still be derived from fossil fuels, and nuclear power will will account for an increasing share of global electricity production, while wind and solar power will still be negligible. Most people will get from place to place by means of cars, buses, taxis and planes, not fixed rail. Thanks to bio-tech advances, people will live longer and healthier lives."
i wonder what color the sky is on the planet this being lives on?
adornosghost wrote: i wonder what color the sky is on the planet this being lives on?
the color of a television tuned to a dead channel... "It's not like I'm using," Case said...
Still wondering when you are going to add the Federal Reserve Bank of New York to that list.
640/4 = 160 weeks of closures.
Or the Treasury.
I don't see any problem here.
When was the last time there was an actual decline in the number of banks on the list?
Remember they've been adding banks quicker than they have been removing them - so this list could get to 1,000 later this year!
The additions come in groups when the formal actions are released ... of course not all the banks will fail (historically only of the banks on the list fail, but the percentage will probably be higher than that now)
best to all
incredibly good post
at least now I have ebay banner ads instead of the Leggs Hanes Bali site
volker the viking wrote:
You rate higher than I do - I got Obama War Crimes website or some such.
Edit - war on dollar website [didn't read it closely]
Most FDIC job postings are "NTE" , not to exceed 2 years.
I'm thinking that will change.
Reminder, Daylight Savings Time begins tonight. Government is interfering with your biological clock.
At least they are posting jobs....
I'm kind of curious about the culture at a place like that. The culture at a place where layoffs are coming within the next year is pretty toxic. We had a CEO replacement (CEO retired) where I was. Everyone was running around like a chicken with his head cut off trying to justify his existence.
ghostfaceinvestah wrote:
Longer - that only assumes not additional banks added. See this from CR's original posting...
There were several additions and removals during the week that left the Unofficial Problem Bank List totals almost unchanged. This week there are 640 institutions with assets of $325.6 billion compared to 641 institutions and $325.5 billion of assets last week.
Means the NET reduction was one bank out of 640... at this rate it will take 640 weeks or 12 years 3 months.
badger wrote:
You should talk to my wife - she has been through multiple waves of layoffs - rehires - more layoffs. The place is absolutely schizo. FDIC can't be too unlike that.
dryfly wrote:
those on line marketers couldn't carry my kit
Rajesh wrote:
That issue alone makes moving to Arizona attractive.
DST sort of illustrates that bad ideas never seem to go away.
Is there a Gresham's Law for laws?
I blew all of my daylight savings on a nightclub investment...
I did my best to help.
Sorry it fell short of the glory.
We had half-price cocktails during dour hour, but couldn't see daylight financially...
dryfly wrote:
I sure would like to see a chart on that.,.
Daylight savings time only effects those with alarm clocks. Threw mine away years ago.
tell your cousin, the redhead with the big eyes, "Sorry about the rash."
Lobbyist Ben Dover wrote:
Must be nice.
In my world, there is always some chump who wants to schedule a concall at 8:00AM. Or worse yet, at 8:00AM Central Europe time or 8:00AM in Asia or...
I firmly believe that the world should rotate around me, but the rest of the world seems to have the same idea.
Blackhalo wrote:
The interesting weeks are when we accumulate... add more bad banks than are euthanized by Sheila. In those weeks the horizon goes to infinity and beyond.
So you are saying the banks are merely threading water?
sm_landlord wrote:
When I was a kid, it was justified: "So the children had light on their walks to school".
When kids stopped walking to school, it was: "It saves energy!"
When a study disproved that, it now stands: "It would be too disruptive to change now!"
That's weak.
daylight savings means we should see the standard, "gas prices went up due to daylight savings" articles.
I've yet to see any justification for this rationale, I'm assuming it must be that many people are too stupid to realize they have headlights. Or it is completely bogus like most other explanations for market moves.
12th Percentile wrote:
"Gas prices unexpectedly went up due to daylight savings..."
DCRogers wrote:
Revenues (or mortgage apps, or retail sales) are down due to fewer hours in the reporting period.
Speaking of which, whatever became of FFDIC ?
Did he rejoin Bair's army, or is he still here with a different nick ?
RayOnTheFarm wrote:
He was just on last night...
Spring is here... highs in the low to mid 70's come Monday for a week
I think he was posting last night. I checked in quickly to see whether sheila brought home the bacon for me (shakes fist in her general direction) but didn't stick around to read.
If I were hired by FDIC, I really wouldn't be too worried about the 2 year thing.
The RFC lasted for a really long time, didn't it.
I fell over a step in Cocoa Village today and I hurt.
Stuffed with Motrin, the Ranger's friend.
I love daylight savings time. I never changed the clock in my
car, so I don't have to change it now. (It wasn't right even 2ce
a day!)
Lobbyist Ben Dover wrote:
I need to look at my laptop. I still have an old Tag Mariner, but haven't had it on for quite a while.
Juvenal Delinquent wrote:
I'm saying Sheila isn't doing her job. Move the product or move on.
Turn over = Inventory divided by [Outgoing minus Incoming].
If she keeps adding to the incoming [new banks on the list] then she needs to increase the rate of the outgoing [BFF closures & cures]... else this is going to take FOREVER.
Simple inventory management. Do your job Sheila.
Who closes banks in Europe?
I guess they don't have many small ones.
And besides, Citi must be destroyed.
I have read that daylight savings time was actually instituted at the request of the Kingsford charcoal company who paid handsomely into campaign coffers for the law... Kids going to school!! hahaha!!!
lawyerliz wrote:
I'd bet it's just so they can keep you on the books as a form of "temporary" employee, without rights of permanent employment, and all the difficulty in firing (and other benefits) that such status would provide. After two years, they'll just give as many 2-year extensions as they want, without ever offering permanence.
ShadowInventory wrote:
I guess that "It's for the Chiiiildren" line has some history.
It's better than many alternatives.
What is the GS level of these people?
I keep losing time in my jalopy and the clock was off by about 48 minutes after a few years, and my wife coud take it no more and ruined my time-space continuum experiment by setting the clock back to reality.
dryfly wrote:
as the saying goes: That's not a bug, it's a feature.
Juvie's car clock rules the world!!
(He could reset it 48 minutes a minute or 2 each day,
)
and gaslight his wife, except she'd no doubt figure it out
in a day. I image Juvie is ummm, lively to live with.
I wonder - what is the average hit to the DIF for each closed bank? Even if they could move faster, maybe they are dragging their feet to preserve the DIF, and hope for enough of a recovery that all these banks can survive or at least merge under market conditions....
lawyerliz wrote:
lawyerliz wrote:
if you mean RTC then it just closed down this past 12 months
dryfly wrote:
They also violate the "FIFO" rule of inventory -- first in, first out. There's no reason that there's not a clearly-defined (and timed) pathway for the resolution of enforcement actions -- some of the banks have been on there for five years, for goodness sakes; many others have been closed without even passing through purgatory status. It's chaos.
Spoiled rotten Liz.
All 4 of the banks closed this week, were closed by state regulators. The assets were then transfered to the FDIC (acting as receiver).
Could it be the state regulators who are dragging their feet on closing more banks ?
Really?
.
Why shut it down, we could just have kept it going!
ShadowInventory wrote:
Daylight saving time - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
JP wrote:
iz in ur payroll.
Perhaps above GS-15 is squid level?
yeah, maybe, but the guy that headed it up died
Take two and Charley Mike, (continue the mission).
Sigh of relief, not up to
level.
volker the viking wrote:
I think that's the only way a government program can be ended. And even that doesn't always work.
DCRogers wrote:
Sheila must not have open order [to close] those banks - in inventory mgmt you only ship the open orders. Time to obsolete those banks or ship them.
Executive Service level, and yes it is up there in the zone of it's who you know and bl...
Sure, at first I thought the car was embezzling from me, and it knew all about how I had been the cause of it's assorted bumps, bruises, panes, etc, along with the ignomy of being run into a few times by other autos obviously envious of mine from behind, and maybe it thought I wouldn't miss a second here, a second there?
The people I know who got it deserved it.
Hub didn't want to get on the track; likes doing actual work,
not just management. Also, they can make you move at their
command.
volker the viking wrote:
That just reminded me of the billion dollar boondoggle in 2007 when they changed the DST change dates. I had to update a whole server farm, some of them manually because patches were not available.
OK, discussing DST is a bit like discussing the future of ultra-short EFT's (yeah, that hurts) but a quick story.
A few years ago I was at an Elderhostel in Canada and found that (among other reasons) the Canadians had a hate on for Bush II as around 2006 he unilaterally declared the US would move DST up by four weeks; this just a month or so before it was to happen.
The Canadians, being good (subservient) neighbors, had been adhering to the time changes in neighboring US states. But this blindsided them as they were all set for the expected date and it was quite a deal to make changes so late.
They were not happy.
EDIT: Jives with sm_landlord's comment; I had the year wrong.
Kauai_Kahuna wrote:
Executive Service level, and yes it is up there in the zone of it's who you know and bl..
So in other words, it's like every other mammalian hierarchy, past or present?
Well I was happy. I loved the year it was dst all year round.
DST--we must be desperate.
There are 196 guests on. Surely ONE of them has something more
interesting to say!!
They thought they could send Alan Thicke here and there wouldn't be any repercussions?
lawyerliz wrote:
DST--we must be desperate.
DST... Death Star? Or the scam known as daylight savings time?
Come little
.
lawyerliz wrote:
OK, Liz, chew on this:
Mortgage & Debt Elimination Blog Applying TJ Marrs' "Living Free and Clear" A4V + UCC Process - Dear alleged "lender", can you prove your claim? Thank you.
Here's a Hoocoodanode for you:
What Is That Whistling Sound?: Deflation Shows Up In Qatar
I thought that whistling sound was Casey talking out of his a$$...
Oh, my, people fall for stuff like this?
as I've posted, I think a few mtges will prove unenforceable,
but, it will be like winning the lottery.
it's all about oil
when the reversion happens, oil will be somewhere between 30 and 50
uintil then, it'll be a bumpy ride
Now there are 210 silent guests on line.
Say something, I'm bored, and I'm dangerous when I'm bored.
volker the viking wrote:
I'm wondering if that's even possible at this point. New production is hard to come by.
And if oil does get that low again, Russia, Iran, and several other countries are going to be a world of hurt. Talk about a bumpy ride....
The thing to do is almost always the opposite of what everyone else
is doing.
proponderance of the evidence suggests that emerging market equities and bonds are the herd.
I dunno, the opposite seems to be merely not going broke.
bANK fAILURE wrote:
That is my read as well. But who knows when the herd will turn?
lawyerliz wrote:
Return on capital versus return of capital. Short rates seem to indicate that the declines are not finished. S&P returns 60% over the last year while Ts are less than 2%. That doesn't persist just like the oil/natgas ratio. Something has to give.
I put in so many icons it closed on me.
not going broke means slowly allocating moneys away from these two sectors.
Based on Friday's experience, seems like
s under the
mattress may be the safest example. They SAY I got my money back, but if
they hadn't yanked it back, what protection would I have have had.
golds intermediate term downtrend, 850 might be a buying opportunity.
Liz,
diet. Stock up on pharma products. Oh, and needles. Lots of needles.
Think how valuable Plavix will be with a
bANK fAILURE wrote:
You think it will even get that far down?
I dont daytrade gold, but I do observe leveraged positions that are currently a good shorting opportunity. and no I wont give specific advice.
bANK fAILURE wrote:
Yah. And? When? S&P will be a buying opportunity at 580 too.
Possibly a disgruntled client?
The fire, reported at 5:42 p.m. and believed to have been intentionally set, caused an estimated $5.5 million in damage to the 14,000-square-foot house at 226 Keowa St. and $3 million to its contents.
Police said they are investigating evidence that hinted at a hate crime toward the victim after the words "payback haole" were etched into a van parked near the residence in the Honolua Ridge subdivision.
Brown, a Realtor, estimated the damage was higher, at about $10 million.
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I think you are more likely to see 1200 S&P before you see 580.
A realtor hate crime?
Does that count?
We used to say that about lawyers
haole basically means "white", so if you put any other racial slang word in there it would be a hate crime.
I think you are more likely to see 1200 S&P before you see 580.
Obviously - given no surprises.
But not anymore?
So there can't be a hate crime against a white by definition?
The guy had a 10m or whatever house in Hawaii, with ponies, cows and sheep,
and he felt the need to getaway to Colorado?
Maybe he knew they were comin' after him.
There can be a hate crime against a white gay.
White straights are so special any hate just rolls right off.
So said God who made the light
That spreads above the morning sea,
And but for Christ His heart’s delight
He would so punish such as we
Pavel
March 13, 2010
Such As We....
thanks pavel, i enjoyed it
White straights are so special any hate just rolls right off.
Hate always sticks.
I asked a couple of days ago, but is anybody forming any new banks?
Hey, that's the opposite of what everybody else is doing!
Thanks, bANKfAILURE.
I'll read it on Monday on one of my web sites. I just recorded it, and the rage coming out of my voice scared even me.
There is enough prejudiced to go around between all groups here, so it kind of evens out.
Reminds of the SNL skit with Eddie Murphy. "Kill my landlord" - He rented me a room I couldn't afford, kill my landlord, kill my landlord.
the onewest guys are really trying to overome a PR campaign that is not climbing the wall of worry, its more like a wall of "its armageddoning all over again, unexpectedly also too"
Kauai_Kahuna wrote:
Hey!!!
I guess I'd better improve my screening process....
I am soothing myself by reading again about the Black Plague.
Things and people have rather got better since then.
The author compares the Black Plague with Thermonuclear War,
with some justification. People went crazy, blaming lepers and beggars,
and then they settled on Jews to beat up on.
Except the Jews died too.
lawyerliz wrote:
Things may have gotten better since then. People, I wouldn't bet on.
Things may have gotten better since then. People, I wouldn't bet on.
That's right.
lawyerliz wrote:
More
, please.
Gotta go, places to see, people to go, and yes, that is a
erism.
Oh, the bad jokes just started to bubble up, but I reminded myself this is a family blog.
Some time before the plague--25? There had been a horrific
famine. (as opposed to a "normal" famine.) Europe was teetering on the brink with over population
for quite a while.
The thing is, we don't want to deal with exponents and power laws with
regard to population control because the world is sporadically extremely
dangerous and deadly so we HAVE to be able to breed like lemmings
after megadeaths to survive. As do other animals and plants.
Call it unintelligent design.
Then, when we are really overcrowded and pressured, we do
awful things to each other. Plus, in most times and places, when
somebody in the upper classes falls, it is very very far to fall, so
they try to steal and/or hoard as much as possible.
And here I thought I was so smart figuring out a strategy to win at solitare....
lawyerliz wrote:
Overcrowded cities with poor sanitation contributes to, if not causes, plagues. Breeding like lemmings invites megadeaths. The more we eliminate the common causes of death, the more we invite the uncommon causes.
why are you particularly enraged at the moment, Pavel?
Yeah, but the Black Plague came from China. Marmots and fleas
and plague germs, oh no. Marmots and fleas and plague germs, oh,
no.
If populations had been lower, then maybe fewer pecentage wise would
have died. But really, who knows?
You can blame the Mongols, I suppose, but not for the usual reason,
but the reason that they opened up trade over the continent, which is
supposed to be a good thing.
LL: Now there are 210 silent guests on line.
Say something, I'm bored, and I'm dangerous when I'm bored.
OK, I used to post a few years ago..wouldn't want you to get dangerous, Liz.
Since we're OT, I'll refer to the previous thread, where we were talking about the system being broken.
"A system that can continue will continue." i.e., a revolution can succeed only when a system is on the brink of collapse. This comes from social studies (I won't call it science), mainly history, which seems apropos. When is a system broken beyond repair?
Hard to say. Being ethnic Chinese, I note that ~5k years or recorded history includes many interregna (AKA warlord periods) which occurred every few centuries. But the traditional Chinese system did continue until ~1800.
Maybe 2 centuries in the future, historians will look at the resolution of our current crisis and say, hoocoodanode? **
lawyerliz wrote:
The Black Plague came from China via the Turks. If you live like civilized people with a functioning medical profession, the plague was a minor problem. If you live in squalor with superstitious cranks in positions of authority, especially the so-called "doctors", the plague brings nations near to collapse.
Interregnum, I like that.
skewed wrote:
"After the US peaked in the early '70s we used imported oil to keep the party going, but that was more expensive - not in terms of notional $ per barrel, but in the cost of an expanding empire and the military to drive it. Also we created a culture of debt to go along with it, and naturally the sociopaths figured out how to milk a population who had accepted absurd debt levels as "normal". Once people became confused between debt and wealth, we saw no need to actually produce anything and accepted farming all that out. That in turn created large industrial rivals for that already expensive oil (or at least accelerated that process).
Just as the debt culture was manipulated to create a bubble of insane proportions with world demand at an all time high, the world production peaked and the increase in fuel cost popped the bubble and kicked a teetering economy over the edge. Now the party is getting very strange, and it might be nice to go home, but it's somehow hard to find the door...."
--Twilight
The Chinese were civilized, and the Muslim world was too.
And I think at the time they had quite good doctors.
I really think the plague was beyond the people of the time.
Filth didn't help of course.
skewed wrote:
Mao, Deng and their successors are pretty much traditional emperors, just with different titles and non-hereditary (so far.)
The vampire novels?
Maybe I'll read them.
There are some female Chinese ex-pats who are writing mystery
novels now, and they are referring to "red princes" and "red princesses".
I find it weird.
Nova, did American Apocalypse ever release in hardback?
My take is that Mao really tried to revolutionize Chinese culture, with unfortunately nasty methods, but he didn't really succeed. Be that as it may, I've been quite impressed by the cosmopolitan outlook and good English of young people coming here from mainland China.
I can't believe Heritage Bank of Commerce, San Jose, CA is on the list.
I advised my wife to put her inheritance money there 2 years ago because it had the top ranking with... somebody, I forget who put the list together. Saw it on the Internet.
Why is this list unofficial?
It's an official CR list.
skewed wrote:
You just lost several wankers
That was some time ago.
I may have scared some off.
Yep, religious types often do this.
You leave well enough alone, and the kids and grandkids
can't stand it any more.
If we just leave Iran ALONE, it will implode by itself.
lawyerliz wrote:
I know that has been a problem with you here, but I've always tried to be supportive....
Rajesh wrote:
Good point, The Cultural Revolution was about feudalism, and Confucian family dogma, and had little to do with Marx.
China is a country that is a Corporate Feudal State.
Hey Liz,
Our golf course thing is almost at critical stage, and crap-loads of fur about to fly!
Doc Holiday wrote:
Hey, even Republican Golfers are feeling the pain. We need compassion, then we will turn those courses into vegetable gardens.
volker the viking wrote:
Just in the nick of time......
Greetings from Ft. Pierce and the R/V Seward Johnson!
And in other religious news, the evening news was beating
up on the pope--a confrontation from before he became pope
was actually shown--for failure to get rid of pedophiles.
And this fundy
Texas guy is changing history and schoolbooks for the
nation.
trouble is, the report wasn't specific enough to be interesting.
For example they had some pro-slavery quotes from Jefferson
Davis. (This was supposed to be a bad thing.)
I think that reading them would be interesting in a horrific
sort of way, and could spark some heavy high school discussion.
And, surprise, surprise, he doesn't like Darwin.
He got unelected, but doesn't plan to change his ways during his
lame duckness.
**And America has evolved into inverted totalitarianism **
Daily Kos: State of the Nation
Cool, I guess, keep us up to date.
Nah, we're an oligarchy.
lawyerliz wrote:
Liz- More data from the liberal center.
Texas Conservatives Win Curriculum Change - NY Times
adornosghost wrote:
For sure, or at least allow medical
... even grow grapes ... this is America and we need more
ghostfaceinvestah wrote:
It's where the job growth is going to come from. Between staffing up at the Census Bureau and the FDIC the UE rate will surely stay below 12%.
No, it was a list of safe banks, not from CR, back in early 2008.
Oh well, that was before we knew the government would make good on all deposits.
adornosghost wrote:
Communism & feudalism is pretty similar... peasant is to comrade what lord is to party boss.
I drive around in the golf cart with the hub. The course
is really cheap and really awful. He thinks he is too bad a
golfer to play on a better course.
China is a country that is a Corporate Feudal State.
I don't know about feudal--the hereditary aristocracy only had the power to appoint bureaucrats to administer the far-flung provinces. But it is true that that the current system is not Marxist.
Doc Holiday wrote:
The official FDIC problem bank list with 750 banks is officially secret. These are just the 640 banks we know (unofficially) that are in bad shape. There are at least 110 more banks that we don't know (unofficially) that are being considered for pizza parties.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahah
Ed - Mtn View wrote:
Never eat at a place called Moms, never play poker with a guy named Doc............
YouTube - Ben Folds - You Don't Know Me
Browards gonna be driving a 3 yr old Ford Explorer.
what's the difference between Corporate Feudal State ( China ) and inverted totalitarianism ( America ) ?
you get a
for best answer
lawyerliz wrote:
There will be a new story in the local paper in a few weeks which will be entertaining, so for what it's worth, I'll post a link at some point.
dryfly wrote:
Well, we are not speaking of Marx, but Russia in 1935.
One must give the Soviets credit on some levels--
In 50 years, they went from a country of 70% of the population was feudal serfs, to putting a man in space.
Of course, hierarchy always favors elite's. just look at the USSR, or the USA.
lawyerliz,
So, when you're dangerously bored what do you do -- sue people indisciminately?
texas eliminating teaching the doctrine of separation of church and state
emphasizing that america is a jewish christian country
taking jefferson out of the discussion of the enlightenment and replacing him with aquinas
(jefferson was a deist)
downplaying some civil rights and cultural diversity issues
some other stuff....., who cares
when i spent a summer with my my parents who lived in san antonio
i was amazed at how many people when we were discussing science (geology..brother and dad oil exploration and marketing petro chem)
over and over they told me earth was 6000 years old and dinosaurs lived with adam an eve and then died out in noahs great flood which also btw carved out the grand canyon
i was amazed
adornosghost wrote:
USSR had the most aggressive 'reinvestment' in 'capital' of any country at any time during those years [thirties] - almost none of the 'value added' went back to 'labor' as compensation. The only other time in modern history when that happened was the 'Gilded Age of Robber Barrons'. Oh the irony.
I got that from a class in Modern History I took in college.
mock turtle wrote:
The poor bastards are so frightened of the groundless nature of their desperate lives, that any story that makes some sense they will cling to, no matter how embarrassing or imagination challenged.
apple fanboy got this one.
YouTube - Ben Folds - Kylie From Connecticut
dryfly wrote:
My thesis was on anarchism and the Russian Revolution.
I spent some time on the subject.
WHATA THESIS?:
The opposite of THEBRO?
YouTube - Ben Folds - Philosophy
exploitation FTW.
Rajesh wrote:
You all can keeping calling them problem banks, but I'll be calling them opportunity banks.
adornosghost wrote:
i dont agree
most of the texans i met were friendly, seemed fairly fearless and enjoyed life..we got along great
but they seem to have been taught early and often to accept literal scriptural interpretations without question
probably if i was raised the same i would be just like that
however that, coupled with a more than a healthy does of confidence...almost arrogance, seems to make it unlikely the average person i met there would challenge the conventional wisdom
Yves on Lehman fraud:
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lawyerliz wrote:
It hasn't turned out that way with S. Korea.
YouTube - Boxing- Ben Folds Five
Im doin Ben Folds tonight.
mock turtle wrote:
Same here, I like Texans, and have traveled with them in some very challenging situations.
But, they are grasping for solid ground in a freighting world, and, like most of humanity, basing their lives on story and myth, thinking heuristically rather than critically, and discounting the future.
adornosghost wrote:
One of my wife's friends used to teach high school science. One of the local fundie churches teaches that men have different number of ribs than women (because Adam had a rib removed to make Eve). The church youth would come to class sure that this was true. She would show them models of male and female skeletons, and they've have a crisis of faith right there in third period.
That kind of "fact"-based faith is very rigid and very fragile. It only survives if you keep your fingers in your ears, eyes closed and sing "LA-LA-LA" constantly in a loud voice. None of which are good survival tactics in a changing world. While many fundie churches are tight-knit organizations with strong internal support systems for members, I will observe with interest how well such belief systems fare in the next ten years.
adornosghost wrote:
The media and their preachers tell them there is no future (for different reasons.) So why bother?
Bob Dobbs wrote:
They may be vibrant and ascending in numbers.
A Corn Pone Hitler would seal the deal, and looking at the rise of right wing populism, it is a real probability.
YouTube - Jackson Cannery- Ben Folds Five
Big Brother Got the Keys, and I got three two=holed corn pickers I cant get rid of.
adornosghost wrote:
""You tell me whar a man gits his corn pone, en I'll tell you what his 'pinions is."'
I :heart: Mark Twain
... Broadly speaking, there are none but corn-pone opinions. And broadly speaking, corn-pone stands for self-approval. Self-approval is acquired mainly from the approval of other people. The result is conformity. Sometimes conformity has a sordid business interest -- the bread-and-butter interest -- but not in most cases, I think.
YouTube - Sports & Wine- Ben Folds Five
sporked and whine for yu, bro.
adornosghost wrote:
It is a possibility -- one I've readily admitted. But to be "vibrant and ascending in numbers," they'll have to deliver something to the populace. Security in some form; food, lodging, health care, whatever. The Nazis rose to power because they took care of their followers in a time when no one else was, and harnessed the rage. Some fundie or non-fundie outfit might do this, but I'm not sure the current members would be willing to bankroll it -- them being told all this time that all they have to do for salvation is get right with their personal savior. Pretty tight with their pocketbooks, many of them.
I should take a class to overcome my southern accent.
YouTube - Best Imitation of Myself- Ben Folds Five
Nancy Pelosi is Dr. Evil in a red dress
Bob comforting wrote:
They just need a comforting story, and a good scapegoat.
I wonder what the plan is for these - throw more money at them and reward them for their greed and incompetence?
The Dropout Economy - 10 Ideas for the Next 10 Years - TIME
adornosghost wrote:
I believe ya - the prof who taught the class was a Russian expert too. He was in the US State Dept in WWII - at Yalta as an aide.
Doc Holiday wrote:
Devil with the Blue Dress...
Bob Dobbs wrote:
Mormons or LDS do that. They'll pay a couple months of rent, for new tires, etc., for members, even if the members haven't been active or tithed in years. In return, they'll ask the person to do some kind of work, work in the library (temple library), etc. According to a friend who was raised in the LDS church (but left in her 20's), at least in Salt Lake (probably elsewhere), the LDS had their own food bank, clothes for kids, etc. You "pay" for what you take by doing some kind of work for the church--there's always something to do, and it seems as though there's an effort to make sure that everyone can do something "useful." She also said that when she was in her 'teens, the church got so greedy, tithing for this, tithing for that, that members staged a kind of revolt & the higher ups (the council? Can't remember the name of those just below the top guy) backed off a bit.
Tim waiting for 2012 wrote:
and
The Dropout Economy - 10 Ideas for the Next 10 Years - TIME
Pretty lame, but useful in that it is a definite sign that we are getting closer to capitulation, albeit capitulation fully engaged in
Tim waiting for 2012 wrote:
"Some predictions....in the year 2050, the nation-state will still be the dominant form of political organization, with a few new nation-states added to the UN. The US will still be the dominant global economic and military power, even if China has a somewhat larger GDP because of its larger population. Most energy will still be derived from fossil fuels, and nuclear power will will account for an increasing share of global electricity production, while wind and solar power will still be negligible. Most people will get from place to place by means of cars, buses, taxis and planes, not fixed rail. Thanks to bio-tech advances, people will live longer and healthier lives."
i wonder what color the sky is on the planet this being lives on?
adornosghost wrote:
i wonder what color the sky is on the planet this being lives on?
the color of a television tuned to a dead channel... "It's not like I'm using," Case said...
I'd guess a very deep shade of blue shading into purple.
While many of the trends he outlines are intriguing and even possible he has definitely studied at the knee of Dr Pangloss.