But, can she print? That's the question.

But but employment is one of the Feds mandates. Why would she be concerned with that seeing all the other things the Fed is doing?

Although the Fed has a dual mandate, apparently some Fed presidents are more concerned about the possibility of inflation than the reality of unemployment. Why? - I guess they think inflation is hard to get rid of once it starts ... and there is some truth to that.

But I think unemployment is the more important issue right now, and Yellen is much more focused on employment issues than inflation ... so I think she will help Bernanke fight off the more hawkish members.

best wishes

Janet can print and Sheila can spend.

CalculatedRisk wrote:

Why - I guess they think inflation is hard to get rid of once it starts ...

In fairness - they would be right. But then structural unemployment isn't a piece of cake to banish either - something we'll be revisiting for years and years to come.

josap wrote:

Janet can print and Sheila can spend.

A match made in monetary heaven.

How about the FRB writes a check for $10,000 to every person who filed a tax return last year with an AGI of less than $125K?

tg wrote:

Clusterstock | Chart of the Day: Daily chart of an important economic story

Pffft. Just the weather...

dryfly wrote:

In fairness - they would be right.

The kind of inflation they fear isn't going to happen, though. Can we get a Maginot Line icon?

Not familiar with this gal, does she have any ties to Golden Slacks? hmmm

dryfly wrote:

Pffft. Just the weather...

I thought it was funny how they thought the employment numbers could be affected but didn't consider the unemployment numbers. How many people put off filing their UE claims a week or two because of that weather?

In my opinion there is very very little the Fed can do at this point to address unemployment. If ZIRP doesn't work what is left?

rosethorn wrote:

How about the FRB writes a check for $10,000 to every person who filed a tax return last year with an AGI of less than $125K?

We should really staunch the arterial wounds before we do any more transfusions. But we won't.

TJ and The Bear wrote:

The kind of inflation they fear isn't going to happen, though. Can we get a Maginot Line icon?

Ya they fear wage inflation [price of labor]... asset 'inflation' isn't even inflation is it? It's sound fundamentals. We need a rainbow icon to go with the Wheres MY pony?...

dryfly wrote:

Just the weather..

Mostly sunny and fair with chance of significant precipitation

dryfly wrote:

Ya they fear wage inflation

Lots of people I know have had wages cut 10% to 25%, or now work part time. Some unemployed. How fast will wages increase to get back to 2007 levels plus food and energy inflation? My guess is, not fast enough to continue our current standard of living.

dryfly wrote:

Pffft. Just the weather...

Late spring in the central states and stalled depressions over the west and south?

More on Bernanke 

Wikipedia on Yellen shows a largely academic/govt career...no GS links.

Rob Dawg wrote:

In my opinion there is very very little the Fed can do at this point to address unemployment. If ZIRP doesn't work what is left?

Nothing. Next step is 'fiscal' and there are ways to mainline money into people's pockets via fiscal 'stimulus'... both tax cuts & direct subsidy. Just need more imagination.

In fact the recent medical 'reform' bill reeked of this - basically giving every moneyed interest group from providers through to insurers their own personal Wheres MY pony? and not really even pretending to pay for it - and nowhere in our economy does money move faster from coffers into wages than in health care. Even military contractor biz can't spend it that fast.

And of course this wouldn't be 'inflationary' - right?

josap wrote:

My guess is, not fast enough to continue our current standard of living.

I think that is a given - our SOL is DOA for a long time to come.

rosethorn wrote:

no GS links.

Hmm. That is unlike Obama. Are Timmy and Rahm on the outs?

josap wrote:

Lots of people I know have had wages cut 10% to 25%, or now work part time.

Me too. Who doesn't? [Hu doesn't?]...

MLM wrote:

We should really staunch the arterial wounds...

AIG, FRN, FRE?

dryfly wrote:

I think that is a given - our SOL is DOA for a long time to come.

It's worse than that. People are using savings and retirement to keep what they have, only when it is gone do they adjust their life style. One major upset at that point and there are no reserves to fall back on.

josap wrote:

It's worse than that. People are using savings and retirement to keep what they have, only when it is gone do they adjust their life style. One major upset at that point and there are no reserves to fall back on.

Good news is that it won't last long - almost no one has any savings.

BTW josap - one of things I try to impress upon companies I work with is that they NOT expect a return to previous consumption levels - they need to be [or get] profitable at these lower levels. It means driving their break even points lower. Maybe much lower. If they can't do that they probably aren't going to make it out the other end.

Blackhalo wrote:

AIG, FRN, FRE?

No, debt burden, and trade deficit. Those are pulling money out of the real economy (via interest payments to people/institutions who don't spend the money, just reinvest it, and trade dollars recycled into govt. debt leading to more interest payments). Until we write down a bunch of debt that can't be paid anyway, and get the trade deficit under control, any fiscal stimulus is just going to bleed back out. And employment/wages are going to want to fall because they are fighting for disappearing dollars.

I'd say got Got Popcorn? , but it gets old to watch after a while.

Edit: the only other way to inject money into the real economy is via loan growth. But both consumer and business loans are cliff diving. All Banks | Home

Nytol

dryfly wrote:

they NOT expect a return to previous consumption levels

Expecting a return to bubble-era numbers is absolutely ludicrous. Given the artificial pumping the economy has gotten these last few decades (yes, decades) it's hard to find a prior year to use as a baseline, therefore there's no telling how far we have to fall just to reach a "new", true normal.

  1. Seeing a lot of TV ads locally for Toyota, Chrysler, and Royal Carribean. They're probably not spending significantly above normal, and I'm drawing on a small sample. Just got me thinking about these hurting companies.
    Toyota's sales are WAY down. They are offering extremely low financing, like 5 years of no interest. For now, their loss is everyone else's gain. It's not sustainable though, Toyota has to be losing buckets of money. In one extreme they can't make enough sales, and they have massive layoffs/closures. In the other extreme, Toyota survives and a brutal price war has begun.
  2. How about that movie Avatar. I knew it (from several months ago)
  3. Instead of trying to find meaning in insignificant moves, look globally when and where there are significant moves. Then with that start fill in the blanks by noticing what you don't see. The economy is not equipped to go sideways from here

I'm with CR on this one. Yellen's writings and logic have been crystal clear over the last few years. Commentators speak of unemployment as a lagging indicator, but at some point accumulating job losses, wage cuts, and reductions in hours must become a leading indicator.

dryfly wrote:

Good news is that it won't last long - almost no one has any savings.

That was in the Oregonian yesterday or the day before. Survey said 52 percent or so of Americans had essentially no savings.. those saving for retirement had only 24,000 bucks or so. Can't recall the exact numbers. Made me feel like Scrooge McDuck, though, rolling in my vault. Not that I have a lot but Christ on a Raft!

Yellen's last speech could be summarized as:
• attentive to inflation
• low rates / loose rates are needed now
• would resume MBS purchasing if the need arose
FRBSF: The FRBSF Speaks (Index)

Seems like everything necessary to securing the position was mentioned. Does anyone know what advantages Vice Chairwoman would have other than salary?

Smile Traffic deaths at lowest level since '54 | detnews.com | The Detroit News

Given that nobody can afford gas, this isn't a shocker.

yossarian wrote:

Survey said 52 percent or so of Americans had essentially no savings.. those saving for retirement had only 24,000 bucks or so.

You know, if all the savers' worst fears come to pass, most retirement planning will have been for naught. Heck, maybe it's already at that point.

sdtfs wrote:

Heck, maybe it's already at that point.

That point was passed a ways back. Got Concrete?

Nytol

Great link to that Metlife study, EHP.

In this environment, work (and the paycheck and benefits associated with it) are propping up the dream . A startling 59% of Americans say they would be somewhat or very concerned about having to file for bankruptcy if they were to lose their job . This concern cuts across all generations and income levels, with 53% of mass affluent Americans identifying themselves as at risk if they were to lose their job.
Survey results show such concerns are well founded . Nearly three-quarters of Americans have been touched in some way by unemployment over the last year . Nearly two in ten report having lost their own job, and an additional 55% have a friend, relative or neighbor who has lost theirs as a result of the financial crisis

budget news coming out of Seattle and Washington State, layoffs to be executed in June
these are the "tough budgets" that don't actually close the gap this year
I find it is taking roughly 3 years for governments to close fiscal gaps. The first year they don't react at all, the second year they force some things they wanted and do some cuts but not enough, the third year they will try but find their tax revenues decline along with their spending

kcoop
The 2010 American Survey of Consumer Finances should be a bombshell. Most savings for the bottom 80% were tied up in housing equity. There is no easy exit to these problems. Politicians should be dropping the BS and engaging in a serious national discussion -- support of the people will be necessary for any path forward, they need to be engaged and feel ownership
Tax payers will be asked to pay for people who have no retirement savings
People who planned to retire will have to work longer
Best way to immediately get more jobs would be to encourage jobs that have flexible time/work but don't exist because of historical comfort
Young families need inexpensive childcare, Older people need some light work right along those lines
However Bernanke & Crew are still pursuing a policy that housing is only good when its expensive
Wonder how many years it will be until we get to hear about the agreements to restrict housing supply on the market

AIG, FRN, FRE?

FRN??? That may be a fraudian slip to some, FRN for FNM, but referring to Federal Reserve Notes as an arterial wound is the full misean!

C

I thought FR was the abbreviated name for the Treasury's off balance sheet vehicle, of which FRN was but one sub-fund

Hey Counterpointer
How similar do you feel Greece 2010 is to Thailand 1997
I'm not asking about what your expectations are for the future, but just in a loose sense of how they qualitatively fit within their economic subset

EvilHenryPaulson wrote:

The 2010 American Survey of Consumer Finances should be a bombshell.

I hope people (and TPTB) hear the BOOOM, but it's been a discouraging show so far. Maybe Broward's right, and it's just a question of latency. It all just seems so obvious, that to see or respond to it otherwise is a sign of deep, deep failure.

Nytol

Does Lakshman Achuthan / ECRI / Mork from Ork / other one-off alias(es) hang around here anymore
I bet he thinks I'm some kind of demi-god at this point

As the song goes "like a horse and carriage"...

PE has gone and no currency to trash, but still vulnerable to run risk, this time in sov debt. Canary / contagion similarities are high.

C

Here's how a finance minister rattles his saber:

FT.com / UK - Why Europe's monetary union faces its biggest crisis

Para 6 : Veiled threat; the deal to bring the DM into the Euro, remember it, do not renege. Gentle reiteration last para. Remain calm, you will be supervised, you will integrate, you will join the hive. Resistance will be really fkn expensive, you can't afford it, and you've had the last roll of the dice.

C

kcoop wrote:

Maybe Broward's right, and it's just a question of latency.

The memes lead behavior, I've often seen lead times of one to two years. Delphi programming language. Memes pronounced it dead over two years before the Delphi programming community acknowledged it. I created a measure which I call "diffraction" to measure ability to generate side conversation and engagement. You can see that the pope's death had a lot of diffraction but SARS virus had virtually none. Despite the media hype, the public thought as little as possible about SARs.

http://www.realmeme.com/roller/page/realmeme?entry=meme_theory#Diffraction

I mean, dang, the fricking bubble actually broke in late 2005 but even the stock market didn't see it for six months, and general public had no clue until a year later when subprime blew out.

NOBODY wants to know about the sovereign debt bubble.

I've spent a decade working on sovereign debt issues. EM debt. Asia crash, recovery, bold new eras of spread compression, pre-paying IMF bailout packages, the long march to investment grade for everyone. Then the next round, crash, zirp, stand-by lines of credit, de-risking, and so on. Do my contacts want to know what I think of sovereign debt now? Most are studiously avoiding asking. Thank glod El-Erian just put out his op-ed piece so I can mention it.

It's not the elephant in the room. It IS the room.

C

Counterpointer wrote:

It's not the elephant in the room. It IS the room.

My, my, what an interesting view. Just how much do you pay for a room with a view like this? Oh.

Uh, where is the exit?

Nytol

Fuld "at least grossly negligent" says LEH examiner.

Lehman’s Fuld ‘Negligent’ as Firm Hid Leverage, Examiner Says - Bloomberg.com

That's presumably on a bank examiner Malefactor Authorized Description list. Higher than "a bit sloppy". Higher than "missed a few details".

Wonder what it means in English? Maybe something like "what size would you like your orange jumpsuit in"?

Pitchforks and Torches

C

CR posted.

She was way ahead of most other Fed members in recognizing the housing bubble, and she is apparently well respected by other Fed members.

So that's only one strike against her so far...

I'm mainly interested in one factor: her record on transparency and conflicts of interest. I think if I were a Fed Reserve Bank president I'd have a leg up in predicting how sound the member banks were financially and how their condition would impact bubbles. I'd probably have inside knowledge of where interest rates were headed and which banks would get back-door bailouts.

Obama supposedly offered some Republicans cabinet positions. In that spirit, why not a labor leader for Fed Governor. Remember the (absurd) dual mandate: if bankers are presumably better at understanding how to fight inflation then I can presume a labor leader is better at dealing with unemployment.

Thanks C. I just put out a new radar beacon, it was hard with my quaking knees. I've been worried about this perhaps more than anything else and that saying a lot.

My worry meter is stuck in the Danger, Danger Will Robinson position.

Get one of the meters with a Hi Vol function, takes off the top of the fear bandwidth, pumps up the base primals...

YouTube - Iggy Pop and The Stooges - Gimme Danger (High Quality)

Wink

C

Wonder what it means in English?

I'll give it a shot, although I am not fluent in BK law and have not kept current with the Law of Evidence in ten years. The BK examiner was appointed by the Court, so although the report is probably subject to cross-examination in some fashion, the Judge, usually the trier of fact in BK*, will likely rely on its conclusions more than the parties' experts or witnesess, since the examiner is presumably more objective.

The report was made public, so whether or not it is admissible in future civil or criminal proceedings (unlikely I'd guess), the information it relies on is easily obtained. BK precludes most but not all civil litigation. "Gross negligence", generally refers to the common law tort that results in physical injury, but it is also a standard for breach of fiduciary duty. The phrase quoted from the report is [that Fuld was] “at least grossly negligent”. Assuming that might become an eventual finding after a trial, maybe it voids some of the protections in BK for Fuld and LEH from stockholders, but I doubt it moves them up the chain. Obviously if Barclays or any secured creditors are implicated in anything shady, they could be on the hook even as to their non-LEH assets.

I'd have have to research whether Fuld is immune from "gross negligence" claims personally. I'd guess yes, and as much as think corporate BK is a shell game that traditionally screws organized labor, this is not exactly the case where the CEO drove a company car dunk (both corp. and personal liability).

*> (the right to a jury trial in bankruptcy has long been controversial, even after Congress enacted a law in 1994 expressly authorizing the bankruptcy courts to conduct jury trials under certain circumstances.http://www.mondaq.com/unitedstates/article.asp?articleid=94024)

Schools Across U.S. Grapple With Closures : NPR

I don't understand something. In my state declining enrollments are reported and I see this appears to be the case in some suburban and urban places too.

What gives? Are people home schooling their children more, is there a migration of immigrants or is this a demographic not widely reported of a population decline of school-aged children?

I just wanted to post a thought before this thread gets pigged and closed.

While inflation is a horrible monster that must be slain on sight and guarded against, I just don't see it being really possible with the high unemployment, wage cuts, and de-leveraging that has too happen, but which is occurring extremely slowly as extend and pretend are the order of the day.

Now, granted the squid will trade on futures, and produce mini bubbles in any area that they can suck some profit out of, and right now that is anything traded, bought, sold or imagined. But maybe I'm just still too much of an optimist in thinking it will be too hard to keep anything in never never land for too long.

I look forward to catching up on all the details sometime when I'm awake.
Nytol

Karl Block Caps is reporting this in some detail, as quotes the examiner's report that colorable claims of breach of fiduciary duty exist against Fuld, O'Meara, Callan and Lowitt, and of professional malpractice against Ernst and Young.

Yves, Jesse and TBI are running the Timmaay connection. ZH and Alphaville are all over the Repo 105 innards. Gee, roundtripping through a Yerp affiliate to get a true sale attestation on a transaction denied such status in the US.

Hey, sounds like ... hss ... what the ... hsss ... it is, it's fuses burning.

C

Counterpointer - Wonder what it means in English? Maybe something like "what size would you like your orange jumpsuit in"?

No, it just limits his future bonuses to under a billion for the next decade. Now that has to hurt. Snark

I hope you catch this KK. The 70s are a perfect example of how that can and does happen. Wages don't keep up in hyperinflation, businesses cut jobs to make up for the inflation, another sort of 'death spiral'. FWIW, I think we are seeing deflation in sectors of consumer discretionary and inflation in stuff we need. That will continue to be the story I think for awhile. But what the hell do I know!

Counterpointer wrote:

"what size would you like your orange jumpsuit in"?

Without a smoking gun confession like from Madoff, proving anything criminal against Fuld would be really tough. I was Im shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here! that Fuld testified to Congress without a lawyer by his side (I don't think he's a lawyer) but either he's savvier than either Blankfein or Dimon, or he really "believes" he did no wrong (not necessarily "God's work" but appropriate allocation of capital). He is arrogant and maybe conceited (I've met him) but my impression is that he wouldn't tell you that he saw your cards, or would encourage a beginner with "anyone can win" when in fact the experts have a huge edge-- whereas Madoff would grab your chips when you looked away or mark the cards.

What's Dawg's quip on this - something like price deflation in more inelastic supply, price inflation in more inelastic demand?

Later all

Dooooooooooooooom!!!

C

except toyota sales are up nearly 50% year over year in march due to those incentives.

90% of people think most of the unintended acceleration stuff is a one time event, or just that 10% of america that is really a bunch of scumbags / fearmongers having their 15 minutes in the sun. they were waiting for toyota to do this 0% financing for 60 months, 2 years free mainteance stuff.

So toyota sales are good, but they might not be making much money.

EvilHenryPaulson - How similar do you feel Greece 2010 is to Thailand 1997

I'm sure I'm missing something, but I was under the impression that the Baht was the weak link to other currencies in Asia, like the Sterling fell becuase the Italian Lira was defended by the Sterling in what they called the "snake". It made Soros his name and money.

I think Greece is different in that it is the early warning sign, like a surfer with a bleeding cut staying in the water.

I'll start to worry when I see the tiger sharks starting to nibble at things.
But, it does not take long until they show up.

Note to self, Vampire Squid from Hell is understood here, tiger sharks remind most people of "Seeking Nemo".

Nanoo-Nanoo - The 70s are a perfect example of how that can and does happen.

I don't really agree with that, while pay stagnated, it did not drop. The savings rate barely changed. Unions where king and protecting their pay and if cut's had to happen they ate their young.
I think we have spent the last year with most people wishing and hoping it was like the 70's and early 80s. I just don't think so. Of course, if you bet against me, your most likely win with my track record.

With the caveat that I view the Federal Reserve Note, off-balance-sheet accounting, synthetic derivatives, securitization of quasi-publicly-backed loans, FDIC insurance, re-insurance, and corporate BK are all elaborate frauds/ponzi schemes subject to collapse, some of which even most of the participants are in denial about and some of which serve some useful functions.

KK, I wouldn't do that. This time and this great recession is a wholly different beast than anyone alive has seen. Forecasts and understanding for people like me who are merely observers is folly since I don't fully understand it all.

Its the uncertainty of so many complex and interdependent factors which is worrisome.

I'm not wishing for either. The 70s were not kind to me.

Isn't saying she will be or is more focused on unemployment just like saying she is focused on the tide coming in. I mean what can she do about i?. Isn't the congress the president and probably the Supreme Court more focused on unemployment and not only have we not seen any effective action but we have not even heard of any bright ideas. Isn't it more politic to focus on something you can't do anything about as no one can accuse you of failing or being inapt. Thank you

Isn't saying she will be or is more focused on unemployment just like saying she is focused on the tide coming in. I mean what can she do about i?. Isn't the congress the president and probably the Supreme Court more focused on unemployment and not only have we not seen any effective action but we have not even heard of any bright ideas. Isn't it more politic to focus on something you can't do anything about as no one can accuse you of failing or being inapt. Thank you

Nanoo, I was a kid, and just coming out of that was difficult / painful to say the least.
I think I need to go back read what the PIMCO team is saying, they at least have a good track record of eating their own food. And while at times their timing sucks... I only wish I could live in un-interesting times.

josap wrote:

dryfly wrote:

Ya they fear wage inflation

Lots of people I know have had wages cut 10% to 25%, or now work part time. Some unemployed. How fast will wages increase to get back to 2007 levels plus food and energy inflation? My guess is, not fast enough to continue our current standard of living.

SD: To be competitive to the Chinese, and thus, to address the unemployment reality, wages must drop by 50%. The remaining difference in labor cost will be offset by time and transportation cost differentials.

Someday, when a lightbulb goes on in DC, there may be a single worthwhile tariff applied to import goods, that being a the failure by the foreign goods mfrs to equal the OSHA standards in the USA. This is not about the number of angels on pinheads; it's about gross and avoidable ecological damage, as we all live on this one planet Earth.

Rising wages? Do not drink the bong water. The policy goal must be for US labor to stand competitive to the world's largest exporters.

The delusion that the US is special, somehow, is a joke from the 20th Century. Thx for the laugh.

“Everyone loves an early inflation. The effects at the beginning of inflation are all good. There is steepened money expansion, rising government spending, increased government budget deficits, booming stock markets, and spectacular general prosperity, all in the midst of temporarily stable prices. Everyone benefits, and no one pays. That is the early part of the cycle. In the later inflation, on the other hand, the effects are all bad. The government may steadily increase the money inflation in order to stave off the latter effects, but the latter effects patiently wait. In the terminal inflation, there is faltering prosperity, tightness of money, falling stock markets, rising taxes, still larger government deficits, and still roaring money expansion, now accompanied by soaring prices and ineffectiveness of all traditional remedies. Everyone pays and no one benefits. That is the full cycle of every inflation."

---- Jens O. Parsson’s, “Dying of Money.” 1974

In Economist-speak, inflation is usually defined as an increase in the money or credit supply relative to the supply of existing goods or services.

nincompoop - Isn't it more politic to focus on something you can't do anything about as no one can accuse you of failing or being inapt.

We have politicians for that, like the Supreme Court the FED is "ideally" separated from that. Only a half Snark answer.

1 currency now -yogi - In Economist-speak, inflation is usually defined as an increase in the money or credit supply relative to the supply of existing goods or services.

But money supply has exploded, supply of existing goods/services has not decreased. But there is no velocity to the money. It is all going into a sink hole / black hole and not entering the economy. And there is a lot more to disappear in losses not yet entering the books.
I will worry about inflation when the banks start lending again, and people stop looking in their wallets praying some more money appears from nowhere.

Where did all the time go.. once again, Nytol

The idea that handing cash to bankers at an artificial crony price somehow stimulates creation of productive jobs is an absurd conceit of naked imperial proportions.

It results in farces like banks complaining that the government forced them to accept money they didn't need (even though they had to apply for it), and politicians complaining that banks aren't lending the cheap money out even though they could charge whatever premium they wanted (while politicians complain that banks lent too freely in the recent past).

My Head Just Exploded Kool-Aid Prozac

If we have politicans for that why is CR indicating that it is an important factor in her selection. Thank you.

broward wrote:

NOBODY wants to know about the sovereign debt bubble.

Browards, what you reference throughout is the fact of latency. It's just a fact.
Here's another. The first move is typically a pump-fake. And this partial or even full retracement back to "stasis", which is the "way it's currently perceived" (the pump fake), removes most weak-hands prognosticators/players/investors. Then, in the second move, fewer are on board, and the intellectual atmosphere is laden with distrust and doubt.

Like latency, the pump fake is just a fact.

nanoo,

From what I see in my area:

Decline in school enrollment is equal to the decline in Latinos here. I also see less Indians. My daughter, when in elem school here, had over 50 languages spoken. Kids would be in a village somewhere one week, The next week they would be sitting at a desk next to her. A lot of that is no longer happening

lol-yogi. Remember, today, you must have FAITH, BELIEVE but most importantly suspend logic.

You might enjoy this one:

Big Banks Want You Back - Yahoo! News

....

Citi is not the only giant financial conglomerate wrapping itself in the mantle of a local community bank. During the Olympics, Wells Fargo, which has $1.2 trillion in assets and some 10,000 locations, ran television commercials in which it described itself as "the nation's leading community bank."

Although there's no set definition of a community bank, it's commonly defined as a bank that is rooted in one place and has no more than $1 billion in assets. Wells Fargo is about 1200 times that size.

In a biting response to the commercials, Camden Fine, head of the Independent Community Bankers of America, warned, "Wall Street mega-firms better be careful what they call themselves lest they be confused with actual community banks that regulators allow to fail."

......

What ever happened to separating utilitarian banking from risk-taking investment banking? Glass-Steagall anyone? We know big banks are holding megabucks at the fed to shore up against the CRE losses looming among other things. Thats why they aren't lending.

We still can't save money in any bank and get a return for the use of our capital. Saving money is sooooo last century.

ahhh, thank you Nova. So immigrants are either staying put somewhere else or migrating out of the country?

nanoo, yes, it is a guess but I think since all the jobs they worked got hammered....yes.
time to get ready to work

Kauai_Kahuna wrote:

While inflation is a horrible monster that must be slain on sight and guarded against, I just don't see it being really possible with the high unemployment, wage cuts, and de-leveraging that has too happen, but which is occurring extremely slowly as extend and pretend are the order of the day.

IMO, we're experiencing massive inflation in the basic consumables. Energy and Food.

In addition to actual dollar number increases for the two, labor income to individuals is dropping across the board.

1 currency now -yogi wrote:

In Economist-speak, inflation is usually defined as an increase in the money or credit supply relative to the supply of existing goods or services.

In this inflation, it's defined as a change in the public's perception of trust.

Kauai_Kahuna wrote:

But money supply has exploded, supply of existing goods/services has not decreased. But there is no velocity to the money. It is all going into a sink hole / black hole and not entering the economy. And there is a lot more to disappear in losses not yet entering the books.

You can print a TARP to cover the hole, but the printed "money" (usually credit, not C-notes) still exists. If productivity increases or foreclosures are delayed and unemployment benefits extended with tax money or deficit spending the average consumer doesn't notice the effects for a long time. The printed "wealth" trickles down in cash for your clunker, limits on credit card interest, food stamps, great philanthropy from the savvy bankers.

It's a trick.

If the money supply is held constant and credit is issued only at market rates by private entities, the only way to realize net economic growth is for prices to fall relative to goods. Then wage earners and savers can realize some of the productivity gains. This is the productive "deflation". Rents and profits approach zero; innovators still command a premium by gaining market share.

Wages may still deflate faster than purchasing power, but the wage-earner can at least rely on knowing the size of her wage relative to a fixed money supply. One problem is that people have been conditioned to at least 2 millenia of seignorage (at the point of a sword) so they expect inflation to always cheat them. They resist nominal wage decreases (also for psychological reasons) even when corporate owners threaten to flee and sell the factory for scrap. They also expect real estate to go up as their house ages.

Union leaders and tea-partiers know about how much wealth was just transferred by TARP, TALF and the other backdoor and front-door bailouts, and have a pretty good idea who got it. (Fuld or wife will not be getting a pardon after moving to Switzerland, at least until 1/19/12)

The Fed claims its independence from politics is a good thing. Pure bullshit.

For Nanoo: Love

YouTube - Rep. Grayson Introduces Bill to Allow Anyone to Buy Into Medicare at Cost

Grayson is a successful (rich) plaintiff's lawyer who went to public school in the Bronx, then was summa cum laude at Harvard, then went to Harvard Law like Brad Sherman and you know whom.

He did not forget where he came from as far as I can tell. If he were a lower-paid attorney opponents would say he couldn't compete or took an easy government job. Lawyers, as horrible as we are, get paid either for actual "success" or by the hour and fees are subject to regulation. No bonuses.

It doesn't really matter what his motives are, his speeches and bills rest on their merits.
Public option now: for health insurance and basic banking.

Inflation is hardest on the poor. They don't have the financial resources to protect themselves from the effect. They can't put 10% of their assets in gold, speculate in PMs, short long term treasuries, or otherwise speculate on rising prices. None of this while, their meager earning decline in value.

Is everyone else having difficulties getting to Congressional Hearings?
Can someone else try and see if the embedded flash is playing for them or frozen as well?
Try..This link...

I need to know if I'm being targeted and someone has decided to block my access to public hearings...

YLSP wrote:

someone has decided to block my access to public hearings...

What, you can't get to C-Span? You sure you don't have your Tinfoil Hat on too tight?

I never use C-SPAN; our government hosts the video via Flash on the appropriate committee websites...

Brad: [singing] Dammit, Janet, I love you.

...as if any individual can fix our rocky horror financial show?

Counterpointer wrote:

What's Dawg's quip on this - something like price deflation in more inelastic supply, price inflation in more inelastic demand?

Yup. It is even showing up in places you'd never suspect at first. Wholesale used vehicle prices have been spiking since C4C for instance. The Florida weather has impacted oranges and tomatoes. When the situation eases do not expect prices to retrace. The Jul lumber is up 40% since Sept. If not inflation what then?

Juvenal Delinquent wrote:

...as if any individual can fix our rocky horror financial show?

See what's on the slab. And he's wrapped in gold!

Slumdog wrote:

In this inflation, it's defined as a change in the public's perception of trust

Hard to believe, in hindsight, that China actually took so much paper- although they do have lots of factories and some stockpiles. No doubt H. Paulson and co. found a way to lobby the strong-armed leaders with a loaded paper bazooka. He can even tell himself that it was in the US national interest: they worked cheap, we consumed cheap.

I could be off a little, but I recall that as soon as tempers cooled about our taking in the fugitive Shah, and a deal could be made for the hostages, business resumed pretty quickly between the Revolutionaries and the Reagan Republicans in charge.

Some assets I think are still frozen here in NYC, but trade has a way of overcoming mistrust. Seashells are as good as gold for specie, if the total approximate number of global shellfish is public information and no one can force acceptance as payment without a contract.

So, yes, no? Everyone else unable to access most of the US Congress hearings?

I saw in the paper that Big 5 is having a sale on Alt-A American Dreams...

Hasn't loaded after 2 minutes.

Remember, they will be scrutinized for every dime they spend, so expect an inferior website.

1 currency now -yogi wrote:

Hard to believe, in hindsight, that China actually took so much paper.

Given their goal to pump the dollar and devalue the Yuan, how else were they to go about it?

All three C-Span channels are broadcasting here in Chicago. One looks like congressional testimony. I can't listen to any of it.

When I tried the video at COP a couple months ago, I think they only broadcast live, so this might be a new system.

yogi:
Okay. That's my source for Congressional hearings. They normally will load after 10 seconds, so I guess its a major glitch at the provider (I don't know tell who that is).

Found an article you might like.
Populist Economy can -thrive- with Time Based Currency
I think this article predates Internet advances, but I'm guessing it is similar to your idea...

Cowrie shells were used as money in primitive countries, so they might be a natural in NYC?

yogi:
They do broadcast live, but its my experience that everything is on demand. Some Committees still have Real-Media (Senate Finance) or a stream to a .WMV (House Financial).

I typically will be stream-recording 3 hearings per night.

The one thing that pissed me off is that somehow the Senate Banking Committee (Dodd) lost their archive of the Paulson-Bernanke TARP public hearing. Even though some hearings prior to that were available and some hearings directly after are available. The only transcript I've found was released by a Senator, and its a preliminary transcript...

Nanoo-Nanoo wrote:

I don't understand something. In my state declining enrollments are reported and I see this appears to be the case in some suburban and urban places too.

What gives? Are people home schooling their children more, is there a migration of immigrants or is this a demographic not widely reported of a population decline of school-aged children?

The peak of high school graduates in this cycle either peaked last year or peaks this year and trends down for some time. This is why there really won't be any above trend growth until 2012-2014 as those kids start to enter the workforce.

Anyone follow the Dodd-Corker newsconferences on Financial Reform?
I don't get what Health Care has to do with Financial Reform.
I'm listening to Corker's presser... I can't figure out whats going on.
Corker says they got to the 5 yard line.

Corker:
- Members on the left getting nervous about what they were reading.
- Chairman Dodd going to introduce a bill, a little to the left to ensure he can get as much as he can in the way of Democratic support
- Hopefully he'll move to the right.
- I think it is better to introduce middle of the road legislation.

Yesterday, or 2 days ago Frank was on MSNBC calling for open debates on Financial Reform.
This bill was going to be my bell-weather on if the Republicans were "the party of No".
I think the answer to that is "Yes".
Completely rational given the gains they are expecting in November.
If you're ahead of the game its good to freeze it...

Our elected officials tend to fumble when they get into the financial red zone usually...

YLSP wrote:

I don't get what Health Care has to do with Financial Reform.

Sure you do. Health care is an even bigger slice of the economy than is finance. You can hide a lot of subterfuge in the confusion surrounding the upheaval in 17% of GDP.

YLSP wrote:

the US Congress hearings

Although the panel calls it "testimony", I don't know what legal effect it has.

"Lying to Congress"

TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 47 > § 1001
§ 1001.
...
(c) With respect to any matter within the jurisdiction of the legislative branch, subsection (a) shall apply only to—
...

(2) any investigation or review, conducted pursuant to the authority of any committee, subcommittee, commission or office of the Congress, consistent with applicable rules of the House or Senate.

I guess it depends on whether a panel of non-Congressmen is considered a "commission or office".
"Testimony" in the US generally implies a public record of some sort, and an open "court".

1cny - Hard to believe, in hindsight, that China actually took so much paper

Doesn't any sustained trade imbalance produce an excess number of paper currency on the side of the producer?

Not sure China had a choice. Stability vs. paper. Stability wins.

I don't understand why Republicans are against consumer protection.
Oh, he's blaming the borrowers for borrowing money they never should've.
Geeb's he's so dramatic... "I'm going to do this again... dust myself off... wake up... and then continue to work as the people in Tennessee want me to."

QA:
Q1: Will Dodd push this through on a partisan basis and dare R's to vote against it?
A1: He sincerely wants a bipartisan bill, he feels under pressure to pass a bill before reconciliation hits the Senate floor.
Follow: Is that from the White House?
A: I know the elephant in the room is reconciliation and trying to get a bill out prior to that. I think he is a victim of health care policy.

Q2: What was left on those 5 yards?
A2: Issues related to risk-retention. Dodd draft had some areas of risk-retention, the House passed risk-retention issue... details. Headline this morning about credit starting to perculate again. We have to make sure we don't have the unintended consequence of shutting down securitization, especially in commercial market. If you're going to retain risk, maybe you don't if you are writing a mortgage on a 15% downpayment home. Maybe you write mortgages that happened in Canada and other places, where their home ownership rate is equal to ours. We were working on judicial issues.

The big piece not ready is deriviatives... with Judd Gregg and Jack Reed... very complex, something we need to get right. There were some member issues coming up. Whenever a vehicle is moving... I'll mention one... proxy access was going to be an issue. Senator Schumer, we've actually agreed to look at governance issues he looked at. On proxy access... in fairness that is a line in the sand. That concerns us about activist groups getting invovled. Let me say this, no roadblocks. Not a single issue yet, that we have not worked through. I called Tim Geithner this morning, and thanked him for the way Treasury worked with us to give us technical assistance. I worked with him yesterday at 4:30. They have been tremendous partners.

1 currency now -yogi wrote:

Hard to believe, in hindsight, that China actually took so much paper- although they do have lots of factories and some stockpiles

US Marshall Plan. Same difference.

IMO, never forget, we individuals care about store of value, we who think we have some vested interest in our workproduct, but nation-states care about employment.

So, the cards get redealt all the time, and it's up to the individual, the ones who think they're involved, to watch their own backsides over their perceived stores of value.

Now, imo, it's all about commodities, consumables, as the way to conserve store of value in the face of limitless paper production.

Rob Dawg,
Hey, since when did it get bumped up to 17% of the economy? I always thought it was 16%... but then they also will say "1/6th" (I guess that is close enough).

Yesterday, or 2 days ago Frank was on MSNBC calling for open debates on Financial Reform.
This bill was going to be my bell-weather on if the Republicans were "the party of No".
I think the answer to that is "Yes".
Completely rational given the gains they are expecting in November.
If you're ahead of the game its good to freeze it...

If we were talking about some endeavor with a pumped up ball and 11 grown men on either side of it, the republicans plan of obfuscating their way back into power might make sense, but methinks they are counting coup prematurely~

Rob Dawg wrote:

Health care is an even bigger slice of the economy than is finance.

I don't think so...

From 1990 to 2006, the GDP share of the financial sector in the broad sense increased in the United States from 23% to 31%

How might the current financial crisis shape financial sector regulation and structure?

CalculatedRisk wrote:

...she will help Bernanke fight off the more hawkish members

She will indeed.

Q3: 18 months after Lehman...
A3: I think we'll get here, this is an important bill. 4 (thing)s. a) Systemic council is an important piece. b) Knowing you have an orderly liquidation of large companies is important. Both parties are united behind it. If you are a large company and fail, and don't go through bankruptcy. You'll go through a painful liquidation. c) Derivatives, think about derivatives. To have a regime that causes people to put collateral against... think about AIG if we had a regime against derivatives. I'm energized to work with Dodd and Shelby to get a bill, I think we'll get there but it's going to be far messier. When you are willing to grind out every issue, grind-it-out... that's when you get a good legislation.

Q4: Derivatives, if I understand you... the CRA... some people have said the CRA led to policies. FDIC, and OCC said that subprime lending led to defaults...
A4: I didn't say anything about CRA... no... no no no... what I'm saying is, and I'll be more eloquent... if you look at what's happened. We had bad mortgages, easy credit, low rates... I was in real estate, whenever you have low rates real estate inverses, and a bunch of instituttions overleveraged, 30:1 and 40:1... and then you could multiple that notionally with derivatives. At the bottom of the pyramid was mortgages that were underwritten poorly. I'm not sure we know enough to do the right things on rating. We have a painful clause for rating agencies, the House wrote them out of the code; I'm not opposed to that I might add... on the credit-rating side we had a big liability burden placed on the credit rating agencies...

Q5: Derivatives, any thing... collateral or standards.
A5: Jack Reed and Judd Gregg... Dodd assigned teams to work together, and he assigned derivatives to Gregg and Reed. The issue kept them from coming to closure, has been how much end user... support. Let me say this... I give Dodd some slack, because he knows it'll take a couple weeks to resolve differences, and I think he feels he needs to move ahead. I thought it would've been best to add that in later as an amendment.

When you are willing to let the lobbyists grind out every issue, grind-it-out... that's when you get a good legislation.

TIFIFH

yesterday we heard about the inflation in china.

South Korea apparently wants a little of that action.

South Korea may face accelerating inflation after Governor Lee Seong Tae left interest rates unchanged for a 13th month under political pressure, even as his economy is forecast to be one of the fastest-growing in Asia.

And of course Japan is jealous 

Just two weeks back, Japan's outspoken banking minister Shizuka Kamei pushed for the BOJ to directly underwrite public debt. "I suggest the BOJ directly underwrite government bonds to help the government come up with financial resources," he said.

It's a move 'the BOJ is strongly opposed to for fear of triggering runaway inflation in the long term.' according to Reuters.

And India and England are both worried about their rising inflation. Seems to be a trend. Yellen will have plenty of help fighting the hawks.

Populist Economy can -thrive- with Time Based Currency

Wheel out the digital work units.

The plan is clearly to inflate now and 'hope' for the best later.

Juvenal Delinquent wrote:

Cowrie shells were used as money in primitive countries, so they might be a natural in NYC?

As far as specie is concerned, we in the concrete jungle have always had to balance the odds of highway robbery versus paying protection to Uncle Sam, who after all could always track serial numbers if it became a matter of survival.

Without knowing, I'll bet you that close to twice as many licensed cab drivers have been murdered on the job than police and fire fighters combined have been killed or died in action in NYC. So the cabs now prefer the magnetic stripe, knowing that the banker in the back seat is getting an oligopoly cut. (Most NYC hacks know all about oligopoly pricing, even in Econo-speak).

Buses haven't taken paper or coins in a decade, and now parking meters. Anyone with cash is a mark or a shark.

If you don't watch broadcast TV you will never hear about the media sponsored teabaggers.

Buses haven't taken paper or coins in a decade

I rode the bus last week and used paper and coins.

Q6: On consumer protection... (no mic back there)
A6: Well the talks did break off. Oh, where are we in discussions. BTW, I think Dodd's consumer title will be very much shaped by our discussion. My guess is, he veered a hair left to make sure... but hopefully not. Where it was left, house to Fed, appointed by President and approved. One of the things about the Fed... we're still almost there... the thing about the Fed. If you remember the President said, he wanted an independent source of funding. The way the Fed works, the Fed gives the surplus back to Treasury. That was a way of solving that problem, the CFPA would have an independent source of funding. I know there was negative reaction, being housed at the Fed. It was housed at he Fed but didn't report to the Chairman. Here's where its been, conservative Republicans have agreed to broad-scope-rulemaking. We're talking about rule-making where shadow indusrtry has to live by th esame rules. If I'm a consumer person, I think that is breaking ground.

Where R's have drawn the line. We do not want consumer involved in enforcement. If consumer issues exist, we want the OCC or Fed or FTC to implement. We don't want rule-making and enforcement combined. There was a veto process, we made the first real offer on consumer. There's a process through which rules would be made, its consultive. There is a veto process if safety/soundness or systemic risk is created. We offered that in the beginning. Shelby, Gregg, McConnell, Crapo were working to make it work for all of us. We were down to issues I promise, never have you dreamed of. We were 20 rungs down in Treasury, working through if there's a conflict and a judgement, how does that all work out. it got down to judicial issues... that is the fine-tuning we had gotten to on consumer. The major concepts, absolutely agreed to.

Q7: What about independent (mic out)... conducting compliance exams... that's the key issue...
A7: Yes . Yes. They had to go in, a joint examination, which is always which we said. Prudential and consumer together. Conducted at the regulatory level. It was a huge win. What we are concerned about, is the enforcement piece. I think we reached eached others accomodations. We accomodated their issues, where we had to ensure, was that enforcement wouldn't be part of this enityt.

Q8: Supervision and regulation
A8: To come clean. I think the rearranging of deck chairs is one of the silliest things . Years ago, you had a company in trouble... they changed their org chart. They still made lousy widgets. Nothing changed, still really lousy widgets. That's what this whole reorganization is about to me. OTS going into OCC, that makes sense. Everything else is moving deck chairs to act like you've done something. We need to make sure regulatory agencies do the things they're supposed to do. I shouldn't say this, but I think its been silly. At the end of the day, nothing changes much. But... a lot will change, as it relates to the standards. The Fed is giong to have its wings clipped, it'll be still supervising. I know the way the bill sits, it'll supervise the large entitites, OCC the middle size, the FDIC... debate is if the Fed will do the smaller institutions... all sorts of lobbying. The Fed board members, like their marble buildings and statues... I don't see any reason to change it to be candid.

Q9: Payday lenders, are they included?
A9: They are included. Yes. The scope involves everyone in financial
Follow: Do they require a charter?
Follow-A: They all have state charters like state... the FTC has an arcane rule-making ability... this creates a rule-making... across the FTC. One of the things many of you are missing. Credit unions, indybanks... they like to see a level playing field. Everyone focussed on the consumer issue on a backwards way. Those people have to live by standards, they want to make sure everyone works.

Federal pre-emption will stay in place. No usury rate issues... the fact is... this is a major step forward. Republicans want to make sure enforcement is at the prudential regulator, get consumer out of bounds, there is a veto process.

Q10: Why reconciliation, why that in particular.
A10: Starting Monday, there is 2 weeks left.
Q: Why does that involve?
A: Should the House pass it, reconciliation would end up the last few days before recess. I think Dodd feels pressure to get it out of committee before that process.

Q11: The bill, that Dodd puts out will be left, how so? Dear Goodness didn't he just spend 30 minutes explaining that!
A11: Still working through issues, and we hit the pause button. Even some of the things working that... will not be in. We'll continue to work, but the bill will be like... covering this press conference, writing column... you get halfway through and stop. It'll be a better product than offered in December, and we'll continue... not going to effect my attitude. We'll see if we get a good bill.

(trying to end it but reporter got in a last question to bring him back)

Q12: Was consumer the cause of th ebreakdown?
A12: No, there was no breakdown. We got to the 5 yardline and the lights went out. I think both parties want to see a good financial reform bill. If we can't do this in a bipartisan way, we can't do anything, anymore in the United States Senate.

"China is currently expected to account for almost a third of global oil demand growth in 2010," the IEA said

Yogi hates on cash like it is going to kill his mother.

No cash, no freedom.

Cash is the only check on financial power.

Without cash all that remains is to hook you up to banker survaillance and taxation software and you can never escape THE SYSTEM.

When one is in the process of being mugged in the Big Apple, does your assailant generally avoid eye contact, like most NYC pedestrians you see, eyes askew?

Sweet, I found the C-SPAN link to the missing hearing I've been looking for; for like 6 months... hooray!

NervousRex wrote:

Not sure China had a choice. Stability vs. paper. Stability wins.

Yeah, I just don't get how you maintain stability when wage slaves can see their sophisticated labor-saving manufactured goods loaded into containers, and their life improves at the slowest trickle.

Information doesn't flow freely, but there are native Chinese all over the world.

1 currency now -yogi wrote:

we in the concrete jungle

Don't you live in Battery Park?

They have tour buses, cops on horses, and stroller moms all over down there. It is like a park with geeks watching every door. Hardly the concrete jungle. I like you Yogi but your shilling for a cashless society is obvious, odious, and old.

1 currency now -yogi wrote:

Anyone with cash is a mark or a shark.

That is not what the girls say.

U.S. Feb. retail sales show broad-based gains

U.S. Dec., Jan. sales revised lower

U.S. retail sales up 3.9% compared with year ago

U.S. Feb. retail sales ex-autos up 0.8%

U.S. Feb. retail sales rise 0.3% vs. 0.0% expected

Do you store your cash in Tinfoil Hat bricks like I do in a Tinfoil Hat vault to keep the Its a chopper, baby from discovering your vast horde?

Retail sales: Actual 0.3%, consensus -0.2%, prior 0.1% (revised from 0.5%)
Retail sales ex-auto: Actual 0.8%, consensus 0.1%, prior 0.5% (revised from 0.6%)

Briefing.com: Bond Market Update

Some people want others to have complete control on your every financial move and you have to ask yourself, what's in it for them?

MTA???? You got a discount from the driver, I take it? Shock

I have always felt Hoenig an excellent choice for Fed Chairman and better than anyone else including the present clown at the top!!
So I am not sure whether I am sure whether the choice could not have been better .. I think another guiding factor is who can run along with the administration maybe Yellen does a better job there!!

mostly I used the original heavier world currency.

Hey Yogi,

How's it feel to be utterly out of touch with things, in a King George I supermarket scanner sort of fashion?

you have to ask yourself, what's in it for them?

The untapped billions in taxes from the gray economy, perhaps?

How to tell if it's currency, a continuing series of notes on currency:

Rule 1) Permanence
Rule 1a) If your dog eats it, and poops it out, it looks the same.

See I was confused you used that word cash. Cash is very traceable and easy legally to confiscate these days. Now I don't know for sure, but if a helicopter can fly over you and count your cash, track radiation....not a far stretch to believe they have gold choppers flying around looking for hordes of bars and coins either. Better double wrap in Tinfoil Hat just to be sure.

What The Lehman Report Proves: Financial Insolvency - The Market Ticker
Tinfoil Hat

The conclusions I am forced to reach, after much reflection and sleeping on this article overnight, are not pretty.

They compel me to advise that, in my opinion, the market is now trading both technically and on a fundamental basis, exactly as the Nasdaq was in 1999.

I recognize this is a serious charge and has implications that are most unpleasant, in that it implies a probable detonation ahead at some time in the next year - one that will not only destroy all of the gains made since March of last year but go beyond that - indeed, perhaps as far as the banner on The Market Ticker has for the major indices.

Health-Care Bill’s Passage Faces New Hurdle, Republicans Say - Bloomberg.com
Patrick H. Caddell and Douglas E. Schoen - If Democrats ignore health-care polls, midterms will be costly - washingtonpost.com

In "The March of Folly," Barbara Tuchman asked, "Why do holders of high office so often act contrary to the way reason points and enlightened self-interest suggests?" Her assessment of self-deception -- "acting according to wish while not allowing oneself to be deflected by the facts" -- captures the conditions that are gripping President Obama and the Democratic Party leadership as they renew their efforts to enact health-care reform.

Note: Monday is the "Ides of March".....just sayin'
Wink

Thanks for the advice. That is damn good advice. You should bottle it.

I like government issue cash too (for the ladies) but realize it has a short shelf life.

I know you are married Von, but pay with a roll instead of a card and notice the change. People with cards are frequently broke or borrowing.

...is this the 7th crash course Karl has taken, or is it #8?

OP-ED CONTRIBUTOR; A New Chapter for Bankruptcy - NY Times

THE Obama administration introduced a plan this week to encourage defaulting homeowners to sell their houses at a loss, the latest in a long line of reform packages promising to break the logjam of underwater mortgages. But without major changes to the bankruptcy system, such measures won’t aid the American families torn apart by the economic upheavals of the last two years.
To date, our bankruptcy courts have done little to help the millions of people swimming in debt. Almost 5 percent of mortgage loans are now in foreclosure, an increase of more than 85 percent since the beginning of 2008, and more than 10 percent of credit card accounts are delinquent. Yet bankruptcy filings for the first two months of this year are only 1.5 times what they were two years ago. And even after that increase, current filing levels are far below those in the first half of this decade. (More)

yesterday we heard about the inflation in china.
South Korea apparently wants a little of that action.

And of course Japan is jealous

Export economies are stuck between Scylla and Charybdis in this environment.

They're tasked with keeping inflation in check. But they have to keep their currencies cheap relative to consumer countries or the cost of their exports becomes uncompetitive, even while those same consumer currencies - dollar, pound, euro - are locked in their own race to the bottom.

It doesn't take the exporters' central bankers long to arrive at the solution - straight out of the Bernanke playbook: talk tough about inflation while keeping rates as far below Taylor Rule levels as they feel they can get away with. Or, as someone said on here a week or two ago, "speak loudly and carry a toothpick."

Believe me, Japan especially would love nothing better than some rip-roarin' inflation, and Korean central bankers would kill their mothers to keep the won over 1,200 to the dollar. They just don't have any better idea how to make it happen than Bernanke does. Im shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!

Juvenal Delinquent wrote:

...is this the 7th crash course Karl has taken, or is it #8?

I'll need to remove my Tinfoil Hat and see....
Wink

Exactly why they changed the BK laws in 2005 making it more difficult for the average fool to file BK but making CDS bets due and payable prior to BK court. Of course that would mean this entire crash was a well planned set up...and we know that couldn't be the case because after all - their just doing God's work. Tinfoil Hat Snark

I know we have an fairly large contingent of lawyer or wannabe lawyers in the commentariat, so:

Actual Court Transcripts

ATTORNEY: Are you sexually active?

WITNESS: No, I just lie there.


ATTORNEY: This myasthenia gravis, does it affect your memory at all?

WITNESS: Yes..

ATTORNEY: And in what ways does it affect your memory?

WITNESS: I forget.

ATTORNEY: You forget? Can you give us an example of something you forgot?


ATTORNEY: Do you know if your daughter has ever been involved in voodoo?

WITNESS: We both do.

ATTORNEY: Voodoo?

WITNESS: We do.

ATTORNEY: You do?

WITNESS: Yes, voodoo.


ATTORNEY: Now doctor, isn't it true that when a person dies in his sleep, he

doesn't know about it until the next morning?

WITNESS: Did you actually pass the bar exam?


ATTORNEY: The youngest son, the twenty-year-old, how old is he?

WITNESS: He's twenty, much like your IQ.


ATTORNEY: Were you present when your picture was taken?

WITNESS: Are you shitting me?


ATTORNEY: So the date of conception (of the baby) was August 8th?

WITNESS: Yes.

ATTORNEY: And what were you doing at that time?

WITNESS: getting laid


ATTORNEY: She had three children, right?

WITNESS: Yes.

ATTORNEY: How many were boys?

WITNESS: None.

ATTORNEY: Were there any girls?

WITNESS: Your Honor, I think I need a different attorney. Can I get a new

attorney?


ATTORNEY: How was your first marriage terminated?

WITNESS: By death.

ATTORNEY: And by whose death was it terminated?

WITNESS: Take a guess.


ATTORNEY: Can you describe the individual?

WITNESS: He was about medium height and had a beard.

ATTORNEY: Was this a male or a female?

WITNESS: Unless the Circus was in town I'm going with male.


ATTORNEY: Is your appearance here this morning pursuant to a deposition

notice which I sent to your attorney?

WITNESS: No, this is how I dress when I go to work.


ATTORNEY: Doctor, how many of your autopsies have you performed on dead

people?

WITNESS: All of them... The live ones put up too much of a fight.


ATTORNEY: ALL your responses MUST be oral, OK? What school did you go to?

WITNESS: Oral.


ATTORNEY: Do you recall the time that you examined the body?

WITNESS: The autopsy started around 8:30 p.m.

ATTORNEY: And Mr. Denton was dead at the time?

WITNESS: If not, he was by the time I finished..


ATTORNEY: Are you qualified to give a urine sample?

WITNESS: Are you qualified to ask that question?


And the best for last:

ATTORNEY: Doctor, before you performed the autopsy, did you check for a

pulse?

WITNESS: No.

ATTORNEY: Did you check for blood pressure?

WITNESS: No.

ATTORNEY: Did you check for breathing?

WITNESS: No.

ATTORNEY: So, then it is possible that the patient was alive when you began

the autopsy?

WITNESS: No.

ATTORNEY: How can you be so sure, Doctor?

WITNESS: Because his brain was sitting on my desk in a jar

ATTORNEY: I see, but could the patient have still been alive, nevertheless?

WITNESS: Yes, it is possible that he could have been alive and practicing

law.

When they no longer take my magnetic stripe at the grocery store, wheel-barrows full of hundreds aren't going to go far, and it ain't easy burying In glod we trust under concrete.

If the upstate farmers with their satellite dishes don't need Broadway and think they're self-sufficient, they can get fat on their corn surplus or avocado bounty, but we're not going to delay foreclosure. After foreclosure fails, then it's numbers versus Pitchforks and Torches .

I figure if the white man's paradise comes crashing down, my family and I will go back to walking the spirit road. Wife and I have started our archery practice again. Guns are nice, until the bullets run out, arrows are simple. Get some dogs, pare down what you need to what fits on your back...and you are free. You own nothing, you are not a target, and it doesn't own you. Have to be a hunter though. If you got farmer genes....god help you in the new world. Slings are nice too.

Vonbek777 wrote:

my family and I will go back to walking the spirit road.

And the first time someone in the family has a little problem with their appendix?

I have farmer genes and like vegetables. Not worried. Also have monster genes for protection.

YLSP wrote:

Sweet, I found the .... link to the missing hearing

YLSP, you've been collecting audio on a lot of public recordings. Have any reactions or opinions jumped out regarding these speeches from our "esteemed leaders"?

I said if things go to hell, mhdoc... I don't expect long life for anyone except the lucky. There will be communities that try to weather the storm through leadership...these experiments will rise and fall. But my wife has some medical skill, and I have purchased a few books on midwifery and the practice of general medicine.

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I like you Yogi but your shilling for a cashless society is obvious, odious, and old.

Cashless is different from paperless. The dollar may soon collapse. You and I can't control the supply/price/devaluation. Only the central bank. You can pull out all your deposits in paper hundreds ahead of the panic, but you can't stop the presses. And how hard is it to track the serial numbers on bills even in circulation? That technology isn't getting more expensive.

What I suggest is a currency with a permanently fixed float, tracked digitally, open source, for reliability. Credit will loosen and tighten with whoever decides to borrow or lend, even governments. You can hoard whatever you want: obsolete fiat currencies, metal, grain, serial numbers. Or opt out of serial numbers if you choose.

Don't call it "shilling" though as that's already a denomination, and I refuse to profit in dollars from my efforts to "sell" the idea.

I used to live in Stuy Town. Now I'm uptown. Long story.

Just remember to have enough trusted people around to work in shifts.

Congrats CR - now recommend Obama drop his healthcare plan, raise interest rates, and stop bailing out banks and liar loans!

And the first time someone in the family has a little problem with their appendix?

that is what the pistol is for.

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