Well, if he doesn't care where we put it, I definitely have a suggestion...

(That will give a whole new definition to "Yingling", if you follow me.)

Personally, I think we're in need of a "Prudent Saver Financial Protection Agency", as they are the ones being robbed blind.

Consumers and debtors -- they're being protected, or at least heavily incented, nicely at the moment. Plenty of aid for debtors and consumers. For savers, not so much.

Anybody who watched Harry Markopolous tonight on Colbert would agree with Yingling's first sentiment: it doesn't matter where you put it. Wherever it goes, it will protect consumers from the next banking pile-on as well as the SEC protected investors from Madoff.

My quote of the Month:

"My first choice is a strong consumer agency," the Harvard Law professor and federal bailout watchdog said in an interview with the Huffington Post. "My second choice is no agency at all and plenty of blood and teeth left on the floor."

Fight For The CFPA Is 'A Dispute Between Families And Banks,' Says Elizabeth Warren

"Whoa, we got totally Yinglinged tonight"

"You watch your language, young man!"

Hey consumer: when dealing with bankers, always use protection.

Barney Frank called the idea of sticking the agency up the Fed a "bad joke", so let's not go there.

I didn't bring up the buzzcocks: YouTube - Pete Shelley - Homosapien (not that there's anything wrong with a fine rock and roll song)

Nemo wrote:

"Whoa, we got totally Yinglinged tonight"

Is that some sort of Chinese circus?

Nice.

"Yingling Brothers, Ballnum and Beary"

I like it

Of the $2.3 trillion in assets, the vast majority, or $1 trillion is held in MBS. As pointed out previously, this is only the settled amount - in reality the Fed has already purchased $1.22 trillion in MBS, which will settle over time. In practice, this merely means that the potential for asset impairment at the Fed is even greater by about 20%.

Is The Federal Reserve Insolvent? | zero hedge 

The temporary liquidity programs may have "ended".
The deluge is about to begin.

their position has always been “we’re totally against it.”

Well, one can readily see their point. What we need is an agency to protect banks from their borrowers. The banks are suffering mightily, all because some customers took the money and now don't have the means to pay it back. Scandalous!

You know what they say,"Poor people are sharks."

1 currency now -yogi wrote:

The temporary liquidity programs may have "ended".

Yeah, it turns out that it's the Fed's own liquidity that was temporary.

I'm sure glad that thanks to the mighty, invisible hand of capitalism that consumers are safe.

Nemo wrote:

"Yingling Brothers, Ballnum and Beary"

Too clever for me at this hour, nemo Smile

Nytol

Those zero-hedge guys are stealing our Dooooooooooooooom!!!

Yet with each passing day, all those who are fully aware that the Fed's course is one of self-destruction, grow bolder, until finally one day a new class of investors - the Fed vigilantes will emerge, looking for cheap opportunities to make a killing (think ABX) on the other side of the "Fed trade", which ultimately will lead to a systemic catharsis of unprecedented proportions.

At that point neither gold, nor lead will be in any way useful. Beta and gamma radiation will make sure of that.

I ain't no Fed vigilante.

[However, if you'd like more info regarding open source currencies, post-apocalypse...]

Fed vigilantes? Looks like the nutgrabbers are stacking their bench.

The strangleholders have a better offensive line tho

C

LOL. Great band. "English Town" is apt too.

Now that I've actually read the Batt article on ZH, my quip above is misphrased. The strangleholders remain on the vigilante side. The Fed needs to review its bench line-up.

C

I say give it to Sheila and the FDIC. They aren't doing anything anyways.

Doesn't the FTC have a dog in this?

C

Things were more contained when the States were not superceded. Perhaps this isn't a function for the Federal level.

Rolfe Winkler on his blog observes succinctly:

As I argued yesterday, on the one hand we want tougher financial reforms, but reforms are related in the sense that they’re all designed to reduce the availability of credit. Call it what you want: leverage, credit, debt finance. Americans love the stuff because it magnifies rewards. The less you put down for an investment — whether you’re a bank, mortgagee or currency trader — the more juice that comes back to you if a trade goes right.

And as he notes, if you bet big enough, you don't even have to worry about getting wiped out if your bet goes the wrong way--you'll get bailed out.

This looks like a good start, although that ol truth in lending thing doesn't seem to have worked that well:

The basic consumer protection statute enforced by the Commission is Section 5(a) of the FTC Act, which provides that "unfair or deceptive acts or practices in or affecting commerce...are...declared unlawful." (15 U.S.C. Sec. 45(a)(1)). Safe Web amended Sec. 5(a) "unfair or deceptive acts or practices" to include such acts or practices involving foreign commerce that cause or are likely to cause reasonably foreseeable injury within the United States or involve material conduct occurring within the United States.

"Unfair" practices are defined as those that "cause[] or [are] likely to cause substantial injury to consumers which is not reasonably avoidable by consumers themselves and not outweighed by countervailing benefits to consumers or to competition" (15 U.S.C. Sec. 45(n)). In addition, the Commission enforces a variety of specific consumer protection statutes (e.g., the Equal Credit Opportunity Act, Truth-in-Lending Act, Fair Credit Reporting Act, the Cigarette Labeling Act, the Do-Not-Call Implementation Act of 2003, the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act, Fair and Accurate Credit Transactions Act of 2003, the Controlling the Assault of Non-Solicited Pornography and Marketing Act of 2003 and others)) that prohibit specifically-defined trade practices and generally specify that violations are to be treated as if they were "unfair or deceptive" acts or practices under Section 5(a).

From FTC Office of the General Counsel - About

But hell, what's the real difference between sticking the new financial products watchpoodle in the Fed where it won't do any good, or out on its own as an independent agency with a small staff, budget, and endlessly exposed to interagency fights and jurisdictional challenges, where it won't do any good either.

C

End central bank secret currency manipulation (end the Fed).
Nytol

BBC News - Brazil slaps trade sanctions on US over cotton dispute

The Brazilian government has announced trade sanctions against a variety of American goods in retaliation for illegal US subsidies to cotton farmers.

The World Trade Organization (WTO) approved the sanctions in a rare move.

Brazil published a list of 100 US goods that would be subject to import tariffs in 30 days, unless the two governments reached a last-minute accord.

It said it regretted the sanctions, but that eight years of litigation had failed to produce a result.

It said it would raise tariffs on $591m (£393m) worth of US products - from cars, where the tariff will increase from 35% to 50%, to milk powder, which would see a 20% increase in the levy.

Walk heavy and carry a toothpick.


BBC News - Greece asks US to help crackdown on speculators

'George Papandreou said he wanted to see the US impose stricter regulations on hedge funds and currency traders.

Ms Clinton said the US wanted to work with other nations to reform the "unregulated financial market that globally moves money at the speed of sound, if not light, and leaves in its wake all kinds of consequences that governments have to contend with".

Actions speak louder than words.

More happy talk from Paul Farrell. He's got to kick that Hopium

The rise and certain fall of the American Empire Paul B. Farrell - MarketWatch

Decades to go? Riight.

C

Thanks for that article, Counterpointer. If the Great American Experiment is measured from the beginning 500~ years ago, then a collapse taking a decade or two is relatively swift. If, as Ferguson suggests, our peak was Clinton/Bush, we have perhaps a decade left before Desolation.

Behold the Wonders of Our Insatiable Conceits
And gaze upon the barren plain.
Where once our greatest triumphs lay,
Ruins, unmourned monuments decay.

With no regard for past or future,
Giants passed this way.
Windblown footsteps fade.

Dust and sand remain.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Time to prepare for work. Lets take a coffee break Lets take a coffee break Lets take a coffee break Happy Dooooooooooooooom!!!ing everyone.

The Consumer Financial Protection Agency is an irrelevant sideshow, being made important to withdraw attention from what really matters, which is the hundreds of billions sent the bank's way by the State, through tens of different channels. HAMP, TARP, refinancing people into FHA, FNM, FRE, loose standards in FHA, FNM, FRE, MBS and wholesale market manipulation, ZIRP, etc, etc, etc and people are going to care for the "Consumer Financial Protection Agency". It's like a bad movie.

Counterpointer wrote:

happy talk from Paul Farrell

nice read, thanks

Has anyone posted the Bloomberg article where JP Morgan is determined to be the worlds largest hedge fund? I saw it briefly last night but haven't come across a mention on any of the blogs I read. I'm too much of a spaz to know how to post a link.

I think Farrell is mistaken. Some empires collapse swiftly, many do not. How many scores of years did it take the Ottoman Empire, "the sick man of Europe," to collapse? Or our baseline Roman empire? Or Byzantium? Or the British empire, challenged in 1776, finally more or less ended in 1946? The collapse of communism in 1989-90 is more the exception than the rule.

I also think his emphasis on glory-seeking leaders as engines of collapse is not correct. I think Tainter's idea, that the wars of empires are part of their efforts to solve dilemmas, is a better explanation. We could have had glory by going into Rwanda. But not oil!

On robots.

I don't use self-service chckout. Why do the work for free? Why take someones job? When I see kiosks that take the place of people for answering questions I try to reboot them. If I can't do that I look for the internet or other cable and pull it out enough to cause a problem without being obvious. I create a job for a repairperson. If I am alive and fit enough and see a robot doing a job in public I will find a way to disable it.

JPMorgan Top Hedge Fund, Pensions & Investments Says (Correct) - Bloomberg.com

The worst thing about following trading markets is that you have to know what the complete idiots on CNBC are chattering about. The women are cute, but...

Lala Song Player - Maria Bartiromo by Joey Ramone

That the US "empire" will reach any certain point of expiration is questionable. A series of messy responses to intractable events is our habit, and the nation's advantages are after all still unique.

I think it's even more interesting that until GWB, most Americans would have scoffed at any mention of the US and empire in the same breath. I would have myself, mostly out of wishing for a smaller republic rather than observing what many (Chalmers Johnson anybody) took pains to point out to insular yanks.

Ferguson himself in the early Bush years almost lamented that the US did not have the inclination, money nor the boots on the ground to execute empire in the proper Pax Britannica style.

Maybe he's correct, that this world needs a top dog, and we're the best of the lot. Dogs do get along fine once the pack hierarchy is worked out. And maybe we're the empire that dared not speak its name except historically.

Laughing out loud
RIP Joey Ramone

What´s happening on Wall St.
What´s happening at the Stock Exchange
I want to know
What´s happening on Squawk Box
What´s happening with my stocks
I want to know
I watch you on the TV every single day
Those eyes make everything okay
I watch her every day
I watch her every night
She´s really outta sight

Maria Bartiromo
Maria Bartiromo
Maria Bartiromo

Wha´s happening with Yahoo!
What´s happening with AOL
I want to know
What´s happening with Intel
What´s happening with Amazon
I want to know
I watch you on TV every single day
Those eyes make everything OK
I watch her every day
I watch her every night
She´s really outta sight

Maria Bartiromo (5x)

What´s happening on Wall St.
What´s happening at the Stock Exchange
I want to know
What´s happening on Squawk Box
What´s happening with my stocks
I want to know

I watch her at the big board every single day
While she´s reporting you best stay out of her way
I watch her every day
I watch her every night
She´s really outta sight

Nova, bravo.

We don't use ATMs for this reason. Its not that hard. I'd rather look a teller in the eye and know that doing business with the SMALL bank means someones kid gets fed. It also means they KNOW me and I'm not a faceless cog. Same for the pharmacy. I REFUSE to have it 'mailed' to me. I've been going to the same one for 10 years. They KNOW me and its payed off too when there have been the occasional screwups.

For a SERVICE BASED society...Where pray tell is the freaking service?? If you call a big business, all you get is a menu of options. (yeah, I know the trick about hitting zero but the waits are unacceptable to get to a person that actually has a pulse).

Robots can serve a great purpose, doing repetitive work, doing dangerous work but they are not the panacea. And if a robot can paint a car, then why can't I have an affordable robot that can clean my bathroom?

Greek police stormed a government printing

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lol yogi.

I hear the market close message from Maria..'do you know where your money is?' Turns out, no one did. And ironically, people follow their money better than those quaint days of "its 4 o'clock and do you know where your CHILD is"? Prolly a lot of the younger folks here don't remember that as there's a generation or two that opened their home to an empty house at the end of their school day.

And continuing with the " Right on schedule " format here come the Tariffs.

FT.com / Americas - Tax move by Brazil risks US trade war

I remember in NY, "it's ten o'clock, do you know where your children are?"

The Joey Ramone song is pretty catchy.

Fascinating political dynamics in Greece.

Toyota says it can duplicate ABC News' runaway acceleration experiment in competitors' cars.

Maybe a Pinto?

Pellice, history is a great teacher. I think it is a mistake though to translate those times to these in terms of how everything unwinds. The instant world of communications, trades, etc. means that billions can cross borders in a nano-second. I've noted in my lifetime how much faster cycles happen, indeed they can go much deeper than anticipated before corrective action can be taken by the slow human and even slower bureaucracies. The dotcom bubble/burst is one example. After legislative changes in 1999, we can see the results of less than 10 years of that deregulation experiment which has threatened the entire worlds economy. There is little time to react for individuals, they are outgunned by a wide margin by those large trading desks with faster computers and links to exchanges.

Although I think history is a teacher here, I also think that because of these advancement the way the unwinding happens will be different and perhaps a lot more painful. Slower changes are easier to deal with than sudden ones but this time it maybe well out of the hands of TPTB. Instant news, news that is conveyed now by people who aren't journalists or beholding to their ad revenues also adds an element of faster and more volatile political/social change.

We forgot the lessons leading up to GD1 (or I should say the architects of this mess did). The parallels are astounding. Its astounding that policies and markets that worked just fine with some constraints to keep them serving utilitarian functions were stripped and laid open for the unscrupulous, short sighted.

We will reap what we have sown.

1 currency now -yogi wrote:

Toyota says it can duplicate ABC News' runaway acceleration experiment in competitors' cars.

Toyota has possibly screwed the pooch. The onus is now on them to absolutely prove there isn't a software/drive by wire control deficiency. That means regulators crawling all over their documents for years looking for smoking guns. Trying to show other companies might have similar issues is an act of desperation even if true.

Benchmarking by manufacturers should be in private, especially if it's downward.

Anak wrote:

Benchmarking by manufacturers should be in private

and only by consenting adults

Every large publicly-owned corporate manufacturer tends to let its product deteriorate. They leverage : their reputation, hire cheap labor to chase profits, become Fat Cat .
Toyota will be in trouble in front of a jury of 12 Americans.

WASHINGTON - Toyota gave detailed evidence Monday that it says disproves claims that electronics may cause the unwanted acceleration that led to the recall of more than 8 million cars and trucks.

Toyota was attempting to counter tests by an Illinois engineering professor who said Toyota engines could rev without a driver pressing on the gas. The automaker says mechanical problems, not electronics, are to blame.

Chris Gerdes, director of Stanford University's Center for Automotive Research, and a consulting firm, Exponent Inc., said the professor had tampered with wiring to create electronic glitches that could never occur on the road.

"Dr. Gilbert's scenario amounts to connecting the accelerator pedal sensors to an engineered circuit that would be highly unlikely to occur naturally, and that can only be contrived in a laboratory," an Exponent report said.

For example, Exponent said, Gilbert stripped wires in Toyota gas pedal systems of their insulation and used circuits to connect wires that were too far apart to touch each other.

...

Exponent said it also revved the engine of some Toyota competitors' cars using the same technique, including a Subaru Outback and a Ford Fusion.

Toyota Disputes Critic Who Blames Electronics | ABC 7 News

1 currency now -yogi wrote:

Every large publicly-owned corporate manufacturer tends to let its product deteriorate.

And every index fund investor needs to learn about survivor bias.

Akkk, my daughter, homework done, demands the computer to penpal around, so Nytol

And that a modern corporate entity has passed under so many shells that it bears not the slightest relation to its namesake merchant trader partnership from the 19th Century or big 3 auto maker from Detroit's heyday, although it may have screwed the public then, too.

If you look at In glod we trust in a commodity sense this is not a big deal. May be due to my own immaturity this kind of logic grabs my imagination

The Golden Truth: Is China Getting Long CDS Contracts on Govt Debt Which Require Payment in Physical Gold?

Since the Yuan appreciation seems to be a done deal, anyone have advice on how to invest in that trade? I know someone was talking about it here recently, possibly poic?

Hey 12th,

Noticed this, regarding how to invest in yuan/renminbi trade;
The Chinese Yuan is Begging for a Home Run | zero hedge

Disclosure: I bought some CYB Wheres MY pony? hoping for some skittles.

I don't see it as a done deal, although I see the emergence of an international open source hard currency which will render arbitraged national currencies obsolete.

Good riddance.

Yogi, you might want to check out the Feelies on Lala. The Good Earth album .

shill wrote:

Greek police stormed a government printing

So, police have to use force to prevent a government printing office from printing budget documents?

For each function, under whose orders, one wonders?

Detroit is considering bulldozing 1/4 of the town, and that's a fine start...

So, police have to use force to prevent a government printing office from printing budget documents?

For each function, under whose orders, one wonders?

Ya nothing abnormal about that....all is well. Snark

nervous

thanks, I hadn't seen that article. Seems like a safe place to park some money. If there is such a thing.

Chinese need to do something about their inflation.

Yuan forwards strengthened to a one-month high as economists forecast a report this week will show consumer prices climbed the most in 16 months in February, putting pressure on the central bank to resume currency gains.

double inverse recession wrote:

'George Papandreou said he wanted to see the US impose stricter regulations on hedge funds and currency traders

Yeah, I mean, after all, those evil shorts destroyed a generation's savings shorting the yen lo these many years. Hell, they even had the temerity to attempt to turn the US dollar into a carry trade instrument! How fortunate for us, in this the best of all possible worlds, that valiant and courageous US central bankers were there to look after the public interest!

Workers at Shaw's Mass. distribution center go on strike | The Burlington Free Press | Burlington, Vermont

METHUEN, Mass. -- More than 300 unionized workers at Shaw's supermarkets' distribution center in Methuen have gone on strike after rejecting what they call an "unjust and inequitable" contract offer.

A spokesman for the United Food and Commercial Workers Union Local 791 says Shaw's offer included increases in health care contributions and "substandard" wage increases that would result in a net loss of money for members over the term of the contract.

The West Bridgewater-based supermarket chain said in a statement that it was "disappointed" with the rejection of "our, last, best and final offer" that included "minimal" health care increases.

....

Juvenal Delinquent wrote:

Runaway Prius hits 90 mph before stopping with aid of CHP - latimes.com

And they had to use a bullhorn to tell him to slow down with the emergency brake and turn off the engine?

Think of it as evolution in action.

Note the quote's

"our, last, best and final offer"

Maury the Credit Responsibility Panda wrote:

Yeah, I mean, after all, those evil shorts destroyed a generation's savings shorting the yen lo these many years. Hell, they even had the temerity to attempt to turn the US dollar into a carry trade instrument! Good valiant and courageous US central bankers were there to look after the public interest!

We may have all lived far beyond our means due to a false strength of the dollar.

1 currency now -yogi wrote:

Toyota will be in trouble in front of a jury of 12 Americans.

Oh, have you ever got that one right. The show-trial in front of Congress wasn't much more than Smoot Court. But, boy, did they ever take all that rope and tie a perfect hangman's knot with it.

Another case study for B-school in a generation.

But don't you get brownie points for saving the world by driving a Prius?

I'll see your Ohio shooting and raise you two Texas shootings. One at WallyWorld.

Gunman Targets Father, Son in Dallas Office Shooting - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News - FOXNews.com That one was at a "financial services building"

Walmart Shootout Results in Gunman Dead and Officer Injured - Crimesider - CBS News This one at a WalMart.

Things are getting scary, quickly.

...happiness is a worn gun, bang bang shoot shoot.

Juvenal Delinquent wrote:

points Brown Pants

Fixed It For Ya

Juvenal Delinquent wrote:

...happiness is a worn gun, bang bang shoot shoot.

I guess the goldbugs will bring a silver hammer to a gunfight.

Things are getting scary, quickly.

Na not quick enough, when Obowa tries to implement the National ID program that is when things will get real interesting. But I figure the ID program is a ruse, so no one pays any attention to the man behind the curtain...you know Health care reform.

Got Popcorn?

...perhaps for those of the Maxwell persuasion

Maury the Credit Responsibility Panda wrote:

goldbugs will bring a silver hammer

As a nice guy you forgot to mention the insufferable moral indignation that we wear as body armor

I guess the goldbugs will bring a silver hammer to a gunfight.

And the paper bugs will supply the much needed band-aides, after all they will have plenty of worthless paper laying around might as well patch a wound or 2 with it.

Maury the Credit Responsibility Panda wrote:

And they had to use a bullhorn to tell him to slow down with the emergency brake and turn off the engine?

Think of it as evolution in action.

Have any mentioned yet how Fred Flintstone stops?

Please please me and get back with the fab 4 references and let it be already.

anothern

Eaton Vance Dumps Dirt Bonds as Florida Land Districts Default - Bloomberg.com

Nice snipy--> FL estimated come back...2030s-ish...

/snip
Dumping the so-called dirt bonds at a discount was a better bet, the Boston-based Metzold said, than taking over 218 empty acres (88 hectares) from the project’s builder and waiting for a real-estate rebound that may not come until the early 2030s, according to a Moody’s Economy.com forecast.

/snip

“Florida’s gone through numerous booms and busts, but it’s always been bailed out by the fact population was growing rapidly,” Distressed Debt’s Lehmann said. “That’s stopped.”

Might have added..."Except the Debt, that hasn't stopped"...but you can read between the lines.

Volcker started the increase in Fed power with the Monetary Control Act of 1980 and last week he said he wanted to "corral the excesses in derivatives markets". Volcker stated that there is a "growing concensus" in Europe and the US to wind down failing banks. "In medical analogy, the arrangements would amount to euthanasia and a decent burial, not lengthy life support," he said.
I myself say good for him. However, he says nothing about bringing back Glass-Steagall and later he talks about improving regulation by countering the speed at which banks develop new financial instruments. What kind of double talk is that? I say he is a moderate financial engineer, but still one of the group.The federal reserve needs to be disbanded since they are an integral part of corporatism, the NWO, and the fleecing and parasitization of the US pension system and the and lowering of the standard of living for 99% of Americans. The knowledge based economy or service economy w/o manufacturing is nothing more than a fraud perpetrated by the suppy siders. They want nothing but the best highways, schools, airports, roads, etc, but they don't want to pay
for them except with foreign money in exchange for US jobs and foreign debt. There is no free lunch.

Nanoo-Nanoo wrote:

it's the most wonderful time of the year for energy frank holmes says: Tech Ticker, Yahoo! Finance

Kind of a shame how Y! has to put all kinds of dancing baloney around the germ of an idea.

Going back prior to when the energy markets became so volatile, it was historically a pretty good risk/reward to go long NG in March and sell it toward the end of the hurricane season.

I keep thinking here that NG and oil (silver and gold as well) will revert to something like their historical ratios. Gun to head, I would imagine that would happen by oil going down.

Not happening now, though.

Senate to take up unemployment insurance extension - Yahoo! Finance

Extend and pretend....Must keep the masses happy....

In some states people are eligible to receive benefits for up to 99 weeks.

Hahaha why work!...hell I must be nuts, I think I just might lay myself off and take a year of R&R...hell why wait till I am 65 I can enjoy it while I am young.

t r orwell wrote:

There is no free lunch.

And a parasite that hopes to live to reproduction age knows when to say "enough".

Goldman Sachs Group Inc (GS.N) was sued on Monday by a large union pension fund that accused the Wall Street investment bank of overpaying its executives.

The International Brotherhood of Electric Workers fund filed the lawsuit in Delaware Chancery Court, seeking to recover money for the company on behalf of other shareholders.

It seeks to stop Goldman from allocating roughly 47 percent of 2009 net revenue as compensation, saying such allocations "vastly overcompensate management and constitute corporate waste."

Goldman Sachs sued by big pension fund over pay
| Reuters

Anak-viral parasites can and do burn themselves out by easy transmission killing all the hosts off. See...middle class.

I keep thinking here that NG and oil (silver and gold as well) will revert to something like their historical ratios. Not happening now, though.

Rob Dawg's most likely asleep, so I'll channel him for a minute:

Make one - just one! - of these oil / NG speculators take physical delivery at the corner of Broad and Wall, and prices will revert to levels supported by supply and demand overnight.

Alternatively, we can keep consuming roughly 20MBPD at (let's guess) $30/bbl over equilibrium price, so as to keep funnelling an unnecessary $600 million a day into the pockets of the Vampire Squid from Hell and their ilk.

Boy howdy, what a dilemma!

blackhat wrote:

Dumping the so-called dirt bonds at a discount was a better bet, the Boston-based Metzold said, than taking over 218 empty acres (88 hectares) from the project’s builder and waiting for a real-estate rebound that may not come until the early 2030

I had no idea that municipal debt used the project as collateral. I don't know these markets, just assumed it was backed by the state/municipality's taxing authority.

Well, hell, I want me a piece of a power plant...

MOOK! Bravo...REPEAL THE GD F'ING CFMA. Its also the path for trading in those 'dark pools'. I'd like for Phil Gramm to swim the rest of his life in a dark pool with very heavy viscosity, no light and no life preserver.

Nanoo-Nanoo wrote:

See...middle class.

that one stung good!

".....if it is not independent, don't bother. Anything else is failure."

.....Amen.

...being for the benefit of money kiting there will be a show of might and lack of transparency

Mish's Global Economic Trend Analysis: Mutual Fund Cash Depletion Highest Since 1991

Wasn't someone yesterday saying that someone was facing liquidity issues? Maybe everyone is Wink

Mook wrote:

Make one - just one! - of these oil / NG speculators take physical delivery at the corner of Broad and Wall, and prices will revert to levels supported by supply and demand overnight.

But every time they roll to a forward contract, they're selling the immediate one, yes? So unless you tinker with the carry charges (or the cost of money, LOL) it won't change the dynamic, right?

where's Traderwalt when we need him??

Mook wrote:

Make one - just one! - of these oil / NG speculators take physical delivery at the corner of Broad and Wall,

That would be an environmental disaster there matching the financial disaster formulated there and forced upon the rest of us...

A shooting at a Wal-Mart? Wow, when 'Murricans start fouling their own nests, that's cause for concern...

Mish's Global Economic Trend Analysis: Obama's Housing Shell Game; Short Sales and Relocation Assistance

We've now come full circle. Instead of trying to get people to stay in their homes, Obama is willing to pay them to leave. Please consider Program Will Pay Homeowners to Sell at a Loss.

On the other hand, if it forces the market towards true price discovery, it's a good thing.

The real shocker a few weeks ago was a woman mass-murderer taking out 3 people @ work, never heard of that variant...

ADMISSION By FDIC: Massive Balance Sheet FRAUD - The Market Ticker

I am constantly amused by those people who claim there is some vast "conspiracy" in this country when it comes to banks, balance sheets, and fraudulent lending and accounting.

There is no conspiracy.

It is, in fact, "in your face" fraud.

Boldfaced Font Warning!

Milovy wrote:

A shooting at a Wal-Mart?

....if another one of those old gals stick their hand in my pants pocket one more time going for my receipt (to prove I paid for the armful of items), they'll pull it back a bloody stump.

traderwalt wrote:

That would be an environmental disaster there matching the financial disaster formulated there and forced upon the rest of us...

We could always make 'em take physical delivery in the Aztec sense.

Hack editorialist Paul Krugman attacked Jim Bunning last week for blocking the extension of unemployment benefits. Krugman said “What Democrats believe is what textbook economics says”, namely that the government should keep paying unemployment benefits.

There’s just one problem. As James Taranto pointed out, a Nobel Prize winning economist has written a very popular textbook that points out exactly what Republicans are saying — “Public policy designed to help workers who lose their jobs can lead to structural unemployment as an unintended side effect . . . . Generous unemployment benefits in some European countries are widely believed to be one of the main causes of “Eurosclerosis,” the persistent high unemployment that affects a number of European countries.”

The author? Nobel Prize winning economist Paul Krugman and his wife Robin Wells.
Mirror, Mirror - WSJ.com

Cinco-X wrote:

Boldfaced Font Warning!

I truly enjoy poking at old Karl, but he's seldom misguided. Just a pain in the ass , overbearing, I told you so sort.

counterpointer@3:49am
i totally gave up on the FTC when i called to complain about GMAC and she did not know who that was! just saying

How does one go about cleaning off the digital spittle on the inside of one's computer screen?

volker the viking wrote:

I truly enjoy poking at old Karl, but he's seldom misguided. Just a pain in the ass , overbearing, I told you so sort.

Me too, on all counts! Wink

I think everybody is going to have to make sacrifices, tribally.

How does one go about cleaning off the digital spittle on the inside of one's computer screen?

Reverse the vac hose too blow....that should do it.

U.S. Sitting on Mother Lode of Rare Tech-Crucial Minerals - Yahoo! News

"No one [in the U.S.] wants to be first to jump into the market because of the cost of building a separation plant," Hedrick explained. The former USGS specialist said that such a plant requires thousands of stainless steel tanks holding different chemical solutions to separate out all the individual rare earths.

The upfront costs seem daunting. Hedrick estimated that opening just one mine and building a new separation plant might cost anywhere from $500 million to $1 billion and would require a minimum of eight years.

This is the issue with all of the big solutions we discuss here - we will first need to develop capacity (infrastructure investments).

Juvenal Delinquent wrote:

How does one go about cleaning off the digital spittle on the inside of one's computer screen?

If you're using the latest version of Firefox, just push the blue arc on the toolbar below and between the "History"&"Bookmarks" menus.....

Anak, seriously, if crude oil storage facilities are full the market breaks down because those taking delivery have to have a place to put the crude if you don't have a place to put it. Otherwise, you are forced to sell it at distressed prices, i.e, a big discount. That's why the price fell in the $20s last year..

Mook wrote:

of these oil / NG speculators take physical delivery at the corner of Broad and Wall, and prices will revert to levels supported by supply and demand overnight.

Efforts to find new sources of crude and natural gas are failing more often, with San Ramon, California-based Chevron Corp.’s exploration failure rate jumping to 35 percent last year from 10 percent in 2008. Countries such as Venezuela are making it more expensive for companies to develop their resources, if they’re allowed in at all. And previously developed fields are drying up, reducing oil companies’ future supplies, or reserves.

Exxon Lowers Bar, Buys Assets Previously Deemed Unattractive - Bloomberg.com

Immediate supply and demand may not accurately hedge the future.

I thought the bouncing head diversions were Mayan?

traderwalt, thanks.

But nobody has to stand for delivery if they continue to roll it forward, right?

No, not the bouncing heads.... gawd!

another dead 'un.

energyecon wrote:

This is the issue with all of the big solutions we discuss here - we will first need to develop capacity (infrastructure investments).

Can't we just click on the "steel tank infrastructure ETF" instead? Building stuff gets dirt under my fingernails.

What does it mean if our young people have to pay more for education and go deeper into debt to do so? It means a lower standard of living for them since it will take longer to pay off the debt not only because of the increased amount, but also because of the lower paying, if any job, that they can obtain after graduation. This idea that everybody needs to go to college was introduced when the supply siders starting talking about the high paying jobs in the service and FIRE economy. We need to have much higher standards of testing for college admission with those not qualifying going to trade school tp be trained for work in the new factories to be built. I am not worried about the high salaries of those in the universities and administrative educational fields as in time they will disappear since our children will learn the hard way that going to college does not pay off for many of them.

Feds: Calif. man ran student visa fraud ring  | ajc.com

i am so familar with this place,never been there but called the ins(now ICE) daily for weeks,days,hours trying to find out if they knew where son in laws green card was. got thur one day and the ins agent? clerk? told me "it had been sent out in nov 2000. he also told me that"it had probably been stolen" i guess he wasnt kidding. funny thing was he went to atlanta to re-new.what a mess-up in one way but in the other if he had gotten it it would have been a rush job i mean a rush job since he applied aug 00 and it was "sent out" in 11-00. i hate those people.told them that it was a good thing that i was natural born cause if i had to do it,i would be illegal.
just bitching. but this guy was getting cards from the real place( just like that ahole said) Rant off

Mook wrote:

Make one - just one! - of these oil / NG speculators take physical delivery at the corner of Broad and Wall, and prices will revert to levels supported by supply and demand overnight.

Most excellent. I would only add that the speculators don't keep all of the speculation premium but that a lot of it also goes to people who hate the US. Something about the friend of my enemy...

Juvenal Delinquent wrote:

How does one go about cleaning off the digital spittle on the inside of one's computer screen?

Bill's all purpose sCReen clarity is highly recommended.

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