Summers: Blame it on the Snow

It only snows in the summer in Australia.

It's OK; the worse the number is, the higher the Dow will jump.

Between rock salt Double Dip and a hard place

Blame it on the SnowJOB; the only type of job coming out of Washington.

Hmmmm, maybe they can influence the weather after
all.

lawyerliz wrote:

maybe they can influence the weather after all.

Hu can.

If the earthquake caused the earth to be slightly flatter, the earth
will spin faster. If mountain-building happened it slowed down.

Re: "Take the February report with a shovel of rock salt, but lets see the disclosure"

Someone has been reading too many stories @ CR! Snark

OT- Few threads ago we were discussing rate of return assumptions used by CALPERS and other pension plans.

Looks like CALPERS is being urged to get more realistic.

Calpers May Cut Rate-of-Return Forecasts - WSJ.com

Does Calpers cut cord?
| 89.3 KPCC

In normal times, as in before the world’s financial roof collapsed, returning 7.75 percent on an investment portfolio was considered ambitious but doable, especially if the investor was an institutional giant like Calpers. But some experts are telling California's pension fund to forget about the 7.75 percent. In the new normal, securing such a return – and doing it safely - might be too challenging. Instead, the board has been urged to cut the promised return to 6 percent or lower. It's a good idea, but the higher rate has been used to determine future contributions from employees and local governments - money that's needed to cover the payouts that have been promised to state retirees. If they go with a lower rate, somebody has to make up the difference. From the WSJ:

"Paying more into Calpers could deepen the financial misery facing many California governments. Some likely would increase taxes or cut services. For the pension fund, lower investment-return expectations could reduce the temptation to seek outsize profits through real-estate, private-equity and other nontraditional investments that wound up burning Calpers with big losses."

In case you're wondering, the 7.75 percent rate of return is no higher than many other public pensions. Actually, a survey by Pew Center on the States says the most common projected return is 8 percent. But that doesn't take into account the losses that pension funds have suffered during the recession.

PLEASE,tell me he plays poker!

PLEASE,tell me he plays poker!

Who? Why?

Summers is becoming more Jabba-ish every time I see him in interviews lately. Jedi mind tricks don't work on him if I recall.
So much for the good guys coming to the rescue.

http://lifewithpaws.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/jabbarotj.jpg

Flash backs to Milli Vanilli :shudder:

As penance for mentioning the name and to keep your mind off that song which must not be named please accept this youtube link as my apology. I can't really recall if the music was any good when I saw this video at the health club - the visual aspects were 'er distracting Big smile

YouTube - Katerine - Ayo Technology

He needs a neck.

He doesn't like wemmin prolly 'cause they don't like him.

Dreamed I was an Eskimo
(Bop-bop ta-da-da bop-bop Ta-da-da)
Frozen wind began to blow
(Bop-bop ta-da-da bop-bop Ta-da-da)
Under my boots 'n around my toe
(Bop-bop ta-da-da bop-bop Ta-da-da)
Frost had bit the ground below
(Boop-boop aiee-ay-ah!)
Was a hundred degrees below zero
(Booh!)
(Bop-bop ta-da-da bop-bop Ta-da-da)
And my momma cried:
Boo-a-hoo hoo-ooo
And my momma cried:
Nanook-a, no no (no no . . . )
Nanook-a, no no (no no . . . )
Don't be a naughty Eskimo-wo-oh
(Bop-bop ta-da-da bop-bop Ta-da-da)
Save your money: don't go to the show
Well I turned around an' I said:
HO HO
(Booh!)
Well I turned around an' I said:
HO HO
(Booh!)
Well I turned around an' I said:
HO HO
An' the Northern Lites commenced t' glow
An' she said
(Bop-bop ta-da-da bop . . . )
With a tear in her eye:
WATCH OUT WHERE THE HUSKIES GO
AN' DON'T YOU EAT THAT YELLOW SNOW
WATCH OUT WHERE THE HUSKIES GO
AN' DON'T YOU EAT THAT YELLOW SNOW

Jobs market clouded by storms in February Economic Preview - MarketWatch

Payrolls have declined in 24 of the past 25 months. Economists surveyed by MarketWatch are forecasting that payrolls will fall by 85,000 in February, with much of the decline due to the weather. The unemployment rate is expected to rise to 9.8% from 9.7%.

This Green Shoots should goose Its not easy being green

lawyerliz wrote:

He doesn't like wemmin prolly 'cause they don't like him

Maybe, he's waiting for the right vegan?

Anonymous Bosch wrote:

They're prone to atmospheric disturbances involving snow and ice.

No, It's a Y2010 bug. Unintended acceleration.

Dodd doesn't have a neck either right?

Blame it on the Snow......and see the sheep ( Mericans ) follow.
Wish more would piss on assclown Summers Big smile

March numbers are expected to be affected by Madness. April will be impacted by Showers. May is slated to be a big month for Flowers.

Men without necks ... I like it, count Franks in too!

I thought Dodd was a neck for someone else's brains.

And what is so rare as a day in June.

Summers little piggy eyes (sorry Pigged ) and slack flabby skin
doen't help much either.

And he looks sick in a grey kind of way.

March numbers are expected to be affected by Madness. April will be impacted by Showers. May is slated to be a big month for Flowers.

No work in June - everyone's either getting married or going to a wedding.

Fireworks in July - distracting.

August - too hot to work.

September - we'll think of something...

lawyerliz wrote:

Summers little piggy eyes

That reminds me that Kohn is retiring. I hope Summers doesn't get appointed to the Board of Governors. Endless Summers.

Obama to name Kohn Fed replacement quickly-W.House
| Reuters

October--Halloween preparations taking up time. Home-made
costumes this year.

Max hurricane season!!

Of course!

October - there's a chill in the air.

November - election day!

December - off for the holidays.

January - expect snow and ice.

Back to February.

lawyerliz wrote:

Dodd doesn't have a neck either right?

Smart bastards.

It's harder to use a guillotine on them.

Poor Bernanke having to walk that tightrope between deflation and inflation. Too much liquidity and the Bubble, Bubble, Toil and Trouble bursts; too little and Ticking time bomb

Then Nobama having to walk that tightrope between too much bad weather and too much good weather. If the weather is too bad then no-one can find a job. If the weather is too good then everyone sits outside looking at the Wheres MY pony? and smoking Hopium and no-one buys anything at the malls.

Above average snow fall means above average hours worked to remove it. So while we have no bump in the overall nums., Hours worked should be way up. Yes?

I remember when we all were "looking past" the summer of 2008 to the "second half recovery". I believe back then the terminology was that we were looking "over the valley" and it was all priced in. Long before "green shoots". Anyone who spoke of a recession was ridiculed. Back then they wouldn't even say "recession". It was only referred to as "the r-word".

Idiots.

The newly organized Fox Protection Agency launched their new ad campaign today. Their new slogan, "Chicken - It's what's for dinner!", is reported to have polled very well in the pullets and capons demographic.

Sets up for a nice rally since they've been telling us for two weeks to temper expectations. Now anything that's not horrific will spark a rally. Actually, any number will spark a rally. If it's beyond horrific it means another couple years before Fed hikes - market's rally too. Win-win!

broward wrote:

It's harder to use a guillotine on them

That's an old Illuminati trick, but I think you just have to use a duller blade...

The newly organized Fox Protection Agency launched their new ad campaign today. Their new slogan, "Chicken - It's what's for dinner!", is reported to have polled very well in the pullets and capons demographic.

That's worthy of a Swift, sir.

mortgage insurance (MI) companies are increasingly denying claims for defaulted loans that allegedly do not conform to underwriting standards, increasing costs for servicers and investors.

And here I thought this line of business was completely gone....there are still companies offering mort. insurance?

Larry's in the basement
Mixing up the metaphor
I'm on the internet
Thinking about the government
The man in the tranche coat
Badge out, laid off
Says he's got a bad debt
Wants to get it paid off
Look out kid
It's somethin' you did
God knows when
But you're doin' it again
You better duck down the web way
Lookin' for a new friend
The man in the trace-skip cap
In the pigpen
Wants eleven trillion dollar bills
You only got debt

Larry comes fleet foot
Face full of snow soot
Talkin' that the heat put
Jobs in the bed numbers but
The lines tapped anyway
Larry says that many say
They might be unemployed in early May
Orders from the D A-team
Look out kid
Don't matter what you did
Walk on your tip toes
Don't try, 'No Doz'
Better stay away from those
That carry around a F.I.R.E. hose
Keep a clean nose
Watch the plain clothes
You don't need a weather man
To know which way the wind blows.

It's the cockerels you have to sway, but all you have to do is promise change, and....

Cool. Bad underwriting deny, deny!!

Before all the big crap started there was always small crap,
and I had a client, well before 05 where they denied the claim,
for very very good reasons. The guy was literally crazy; had been
Baker Acted several times; his disability payment was equal to the
first loan payment, and somebody also gave him a 2nd.

Baker Act in Fla--where they come to take you away, hey, hey.

Barley wrote:

there are still companies offering mort. insurance?

FT.com / UK - Boon for new US mortgage insurers

Apparently.

Do we really care if the guillotine hits short or long?

Ick. My Head Just Exploded My Head Just Exploded

From the left coast I saw all that snow in the east so I fired 10 people...?

That's very clever, JD, really, but I seem to recall those last two lines from somewhere.

Wink

Just wait until you hear them blame the weather for the terrible auto sales we'll see tomorrow. Same thing, bad number but not horrible, market rallies.

There's a Demotivational Calendar here.

February - Blame it on the Snow.

March numbers are expected to be affected by Madness.

April will be impacted by Showers.

May is slated to be a big month for Flowers.

No work in June - everyone's either getting married or going to a wedding.

Fireworks in July - distracting.

August - too hot to work.

September - we'll think of something...

October - there's a chill in the air.

November - election day!

December - off for the holidays.

January - expect snow and ice.

(A demotivational calendar can't be released on time for January; too depressing.)

Pavel,I would love to play poker with summers.Watch the videos again and count how many "tells" he gives when he lies.I do not want to play at my house though,the cost of the exorcism would exceed all but a HUGE profit.

Bunning's dog ate my unemployment check.

It was cold here in Central Florida, but we didn't see
snow.

I guess they didn't buy 'cause they were watching the snow
on tv and couldn't pull themselves away from the weather
channel.

...as you like it

It's from the Zimmerman Letter, if memory serves.

Tom, I did watch. Yes. Indeed.

It's from the Zimmerman Letter, if memory serves.

Laughing out loud

Didn't someone on the board go all-in with MBI or ABK in early 2009? IIRC he bought ABK at ~$1.0. Oops.

If anyone here is listening to reports about the looting going on in Chile, do you find it as ominous as I do?

JD

+1T (Don't get too cheery. What with cudo inflation, they're not quite worth what they used to be.)

But then, what is?

No. See my comment and the glossary if it's still there.

the looting going on in Chile

They're in very bad Moody's down there.

pavel.chichikov wrote:

the looting going on in Chile, do you find it as ominous as I do?

No, I don't own anything anymore. Smile

Dead looters gather no loot....

One thought I had: John Yoo.

It's not that they don't have necks.

It's just that those necks need stretching!

*No, I don't own anything anymore. *

I was thinking of the potential for disorder in developed economies.

I was on the outside looking in on the L.A. Riots from my perch high atop Topanga State Park watching south central LA burning from afar, and I couldn't see the looting there, but it was all over tv.

10% of the population pissed off, and it didn't spread any further than their neighborhood for the most part...

tranche coat

F.I.R.E hose

well done.

lawyerliz wrote:

Do we really care if the guillotine hits short or long?

It's a matter of taste and also experience, and one assumes that practice makes perfect! Next....

And I repeat, if I felt the urge to loot, stuff that I didn't
even want, then those urges are out there big time.

I rather think it is a survival thing. And yeah, it has to
be repressed.

lawyerliz wrote:

it has to be repressed.

Survival?

Community Evaluates Riot's Impact on Advocacy Efforts - The Daily Californian
Though individuals touting the cause of public education rioted Friday morning, organizers of the upcoming day of statewide action said the March 4 demonstrations will not be defined by further violence.

Rioting broke out Friday morning on the south side of the UC Berkeley campus where 200 people gathered to dance, clashed with police and vandalized public property. With days remaining until the statewide protests planned for March 4, student and faculty organizers said advocating for public education is the best way for the campus community to move forward.

But if it had worked Advocacy-wise, it would have been OK?

I think it's common knowledge that Pelosi has a fat neck and we need to make this fair and include everyone in the spectrum!

25 Random Things About Me, Nancy Pelosi | Parcbench

lawyerliz wrote:

looting.

How many days without food and water should people endure before the EBT cards and printed, primed and signed by Senator Bunning?

Demotivational Calendar:

September - gathering in the harvest (pertinent to commodities brokers only)

Survival?

What seems to be going on in Chile exceeds survival. Apparently, there's arson and other forms of gratuitous destruction.

September - gathering in the harvest

Yes! That's the spirit.

Who's getting looted in Chile? Stores? The rich? or everyone?

Do we have detectives on the trails of these rogue tremors?

Do people mean to say that it just isn't the good will of the oppressed that a minority is allowed to live an opulent and care-free life? Is it really the state, for whom all the pseudo wealthy protest against, that is really the guarantor of that opulence?

Who's getting looted in Chile? Stores? The rich? or everyone?

My only source is an eye-witness account this evening by someone who lives there, on NPR. She said people were not only looting but burning down commercial establishments. It sounded a bit out of control.

September - gathering in the harvest (pertinent to commodities brokers only)

Which one is Wool Gathering Month? I don't have sheep so I'm not au courant .

Nope, never had the urge to burn.

Would be really tempted if GS was available to burn.

this seems to be the season for government and university budget cuts
a lot of people will be released from their high-value jobs
(not necessarily valuable work, but a job that has stability/insurance/lifetime employment kind of situation)

Do we have detectives on the trails of these rogue tremors?

We did but they were, in a twist of fate, captured by regulators, of all people.

Haitians interviewed said it was not nearly so bad as
reported in the media. Media got them nervous, but not
what was actually happening around them.

Which is not to say that bad stuff didn't happen.

It sounded a bit out of control.

Payback for decades of repression, maybe?

EvilHenryPaulson wrote:

this seems to be the season for government and university budget cuts

Speakin' of government budgets: February 2010 Federal Tax Withholdings Plunge To Multiyear Low | zero hedge Dooooooooooooooom!!!

February was not an auspicious start to Obama's record budget deficit-busting plans. The Daily Treasury Statement for the full month of February was just released, and it disclosed that while corporate tax withholdings, net of refunds, actually climbed marginally to $3.4 billion from $(3.4) billion in February 2009, individual tax withholdings plunged to a multi-year low of $30.7 billion.

Wool gathering would be in the Spring as the little lambs are shorn of their coats.

Funny, that's when the card carriers raise their interest rates.

When there are government/university budget cuts, it's mostly not filling new positions--not actually laying off people.

Next month, blame it on the thaw. Then we have a tough period to get through before we can blame it on the heat. Finally, hurricane season.

" Haitians interviewed said it was not nearly so bad as
reported in the media. Media got them nervous, but not
what was actually happening around them.

Which is not to say that bad stuff didn't happen. "

I don't think Chile and Haiti are the same cases.

Haiti is one of the poorest countries in the world. Chile is not in the same category.

lawyerliz wrote:

If the earthquake caused the earth to be slightly flatter, the earth
will spin faster. If mountain-building happened it slowed down.

Does that mean that I have to replace all of my clocks? :greenshoots:

Only if they are really, really really really. . . .really, really accurate.

Anonymous Bosch wrote:

Which one is Wool Gathering Month? I don't have sheep so I'm not au courant .

Up to the shepherd. They need a haircut once a year or it becomes really difficult with the matted/tangled wool. Best time to do it is after cold/winter and at the beginning of hot humid summertime. Could do it more often, but sheep shearers earn big bucks. They travel the world for it. There are some automated robots, but they can't compare to quality/speed of a human yet. Not like the automated cow operated milking machines.

How long has it been since locust caused a commotion?

It was definitely worthy of 1T, JD... exchangable in Zimbucks.

Was watching the PBS Newshour's bit on Chile today, and it looked like a scene from behind the Orange Curtain, with a tilde.

pavel.chichikov wrote:

I don't think Chile and Haiti are the same cases.

Haiti is one of the poorest countries in the world. Chile is not in the same category.

The different reactions of the populations was not lost on me . . . and, yes, I considered it scary for the simple reason that a similar reaction in the U.S., if based on relative affluence, would be a nightmare.

Not saying there will be a nightmare here following a major disaster, but the difference within the first 24 to 48 hours between Haiti and Chile was remarkable.

PastTense wrote:

When there are government/university budget cuts, it's mostly not filling new positions--not actually laying off people.

Up here in Canada there are actual layoffs at city, provincial, and federal levels of government that will be in the news very soon. I can't speak for the entire USA, but I've seen enough stories showing up to suggest that layoffs and not attrition are the theme for 2010

wally wrote:

Next month, blame it on the thaw. Then we have a tough period to get through before we can blame it on the heat. Finally, hurricane season.

I work at a gas/electric utility. It's been much warmer than normal this year in the PNW. Gas sales are only about 80% of normal. Jan/Feb, and Nov/Dec provide about 70% of our earnings.

We're already blaming it on the heat.

EvilHenryPaulson wrote:

Up here in Canada there are actual layoffs at city, provincial, and federal levels of government that will be in the news very soon

Are you talking about the Federal Budget 2010?

noob goldberg wrote:

Are you talking about the Federal Budget 2010?

Among others, yes

You're in Philly, Doc? What a coincidence.

edit: Just read the deep dish blurb. Sounds promising. I'll have to put my food taster on the trail.

EvilHenryPaulson wrote:

Among others, yes

I'll be in lockup, but unfortunately I won't be able to hit CR until a few hours after it hits the wires. We'll see how cutthroat Stockwell is on Thursday.

EDIT: But I see if I can gauge the vibe from all the analysts in lockup. Maybe there might be some interesting scuttlebutt to report.

Juvenal Delinquent wrote:

south central LA burning

I remember a photo of a man shooting a rifle or shotgun into the crowd of looters from the rooftop of his business...

noob goldberg
I expect they'll try to weasel as much as possible by instituting or raising fees, but the gap is big enough that they'll need more to remain fiscally credible and to them cuts are preferable to tax increases, so we'll see something. The BC provincial budget is coming up tomorrow, big cuts expected. Word is $1bn deficit. News-rumour is that health spending will increase (probably less than hoped for by administrators, or a warning not to expect increase for next year's budget), and education will face cuts (which will be directed at job-bloat)

State of Georgia has some big headlines coming out right now.

The Zimmerman Telegram?

Oh. The original vagabond.

Theme music

Click my tail>>> Wheres MY pony?

there are just so many cuts/layoffs from so many states in the news right now
Words like "massive" for layoffs in Georgia, Florida looking to do most of the balancing with layoffs, Chicago transit taking a strike vote, NJ transit voting between layoffs or pension cuts, Nevada just did some education cuts
It seems March 2nd is a popular day to reconvene legislatures

EvilHenryPaulson wrote:

The BC provincial budget is coming up tomorrow, big cuts expected. Word is $1bn deficit.

I only know one narrow aspect of the BC government's fiscal situation, and it's pretty austere, to say the least. I've never heard of a governmental minister being forced to tele-conference into a ministerial meeting to avoid travel costs, but the new BC government's done it twice.

Saskatchewan has over a $1 billion deficit just on their potash royalty calculation adjustments alone.

EvilHenryPaulson wrote:

cuts are preferable to tax increases,

That was one thing that Obama said during the campaign that I agreed with - we will be going over the budget and eliminating wasteful and ineffective programs.... Well I never really thought that would happen, but I could Hope... tax increases will now probably actually produce LESS revenue as people will just give up on working at the lower income levels... It's perfectly clear that the sales tax increases in several states are working that way.... tax policies can change behavior in consumers - big surprise.... My wife and I have several purchases that we are deferring until we get to a no sales tax state - we are not going to pay the Arizona sales tax rate on several thousand dollars... if the rate was lower, we might do things differently...

The states really are gonna have to work at it.

Wife told me that she threw out mail from PA Lottery which was a coupon for lottery tickets, buy two and get a third of some other knock-off drawing for free.

noob goldberg wrote:

Saskatchewan has over a $1 billion deficit just on their potash royalty calculation adjustments alone.

I suddenly had a brilliant idea. Saskatchewan can borrow Golden Bear chits from California, and pay the adjustments with them. If necessary, they can then repay California with large piles of steaming fertilizer. Win-win.

That's truly pathetic, 'dad. (Haven't seen those myself; only the stuff that doesn't hit the round file first.)

If things really go to hell, I'm gonna take a cart to a really tony neighborhood and offer up my services as a valet or personal looter.

BREAKING

Australia hikes policy rate to 4% as expected

MLM wrote:

California with large piles of steaming fertilizer

Ho ho not going to let that Golden opportunity get by..... There is a considerable steaming pile already in Sacramento...

MLM wrote:

If necessary, they can then repay California with large piles of steaming fertilizer. Win-win.

What, and force Potash Corp to rehire all those workers they sent to the curb? That's not how the Canpotex cartel rolls.

If necessary, they can then repay California with large quantities of WATER.

There, Fixed It For Ya

4%? Good thing that the guys at the Fed can't count that high.

All they like to do is add zeroes to the end of much smaller numbers.

Anonymous Bosch wrote:

If necessary, they can then repay California with large quantities of WATER.

Not necessary. Larry Summers says any water problems are just an aberration in the data, and we need to look past them.

shill wrote:

Australia hikes policy rate to 4% as expected

The euro didn't like that one bit.

1 currency now -yogi wrote:

HIKE!

I can only wish - my money market fund is now paying .01% interest - that's correct - one tenth of one percent.... I will have to expand my spreadsheets if they add any more zero's after the decimal point... Not to worry - planning to sell more bonds in anticipation of the inevitable interest rate increases....

noob goldberg
Wonder what Quebec will do with their budget

EvilHenryPaulson wrote:

Wonder what Quebec will do with their budget

I predict protests. Smile

Seriously, I have a very narrow view into Quebec finances; that tiny window shows signs of fiscal strain, to say the least, in areas that are pretty untouchable politically in Quebec...like agriculture.

We should have put all the snow in gondolas and shipped it to CA. Warren would have died of ecstasy.

EvilHenryPaulson wrote:

edit: ok 25bp hike to 400bp

Well, from 3.75 to 4%. And I thought they were planning on pausing for a bit, last I had heard.

I'll give the president credit for following through on the NASA cutbacks. I think that the public that is interested in space can see that private organizations are on the verge of being able to perform most of the launches that NASA did; using modern technology.

New blue tile - hope you like it.

rosethorn wrote:

NASA cutbacks

I agree. Manned spaceflight is incredibly expensive, and most of what has been done so far could have been done with automatons for a lot less money.....

shill wrote:

Regents propose 4,000 layoffs, dozens of program cuts - The Times-Herald

This is mind numbing

Literally.

Then again, ask yourself if the US needs any more business grads. Haven't the existing ones done enough damage?

noob goldberg
you were quick, I had a brain fart and then caught myself, at first I remembered the 100bp global target rate cut as being Aussie cutting to 100bp but that didn't make sense, then I realized my mistake
http://www.rba.gov.au/statistics/cash-rate.html

Smartest looter in Chile today:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/03/01/article-1254563-08824EC1000005DC-781_634x717.jpg

After seeing that I remembered what I read from a post here weeks back saying how when things collapse, don't worry about getting gold, guns, and ammo and instead the most valuable goods become toilet paper, soap, matches, etc.

EvilHenryPaulson wrote:

you were quick, I had a brain fart and then caught myself, at first I remembered the 100bp global target rate cut as being Aussie cutting to 100bp but that didn't make sense, then I realized my mistake

It's extremely rare, EHP, to ever catch you in a brain fart. And I still didn't expect this hike--even 25bp--given the reports I had read a week or two ago.

Time to head to bed. Nytol.

I saw an interview with someone from the RBA to the effect that they weren't expecting other central banks to be raising rates right now

Brown will make 'major announcement' Tuesday

Laughing out loud Jerry Brown to announce candidacy for CA governor

Good luck with that.

From that picture it can't be said anyone's a looter. How do you know she doesn't own the store?

1 currency now -yogi wrote:

How do you know she doesn't own the store?

Damn right. From the photo, it looks to me like she is returning those valuable items back to the shelves.

Take the February report with a shovel of rock salt, but lets see the disclosure (if any) before dismissing the report completely.

How would a Southern California guy know what to throw on a bunch of ice and snow? Besides - that's bad for the environment & destroys cars & bridges... hey wait that's stimulus! Time to send the trucks out - double quick!!!

Summers might as well have said look past 2010 and the debt pile-up at the treasury too while you're at it.

1 currency now -yogi wrote:

How do you know she doesn't own the store?

By her receipt.

Geez,Rosethorn, Talk about a stark reminder of how broken the political system is here in California.I can think of two people on my street who are more qualified than any of the three major candidates.

rosethorn wrote:

Jerry Brown to announce candidacy for CA governor

Groundhog day was in Feb.

NorkaWest wrote:

OT- Few threads ago we were discussing rate of return assumptions used by CALPERS and other pension plans.
Looks like CALPERS is being urged to get more realistic.

This happens every time there is a long bull market or a crash. During the long bull markets, people look back 3-8 years and say "What, are you crazy? You're asking us to contribute based upon a conservative 7.75% return? That's making our contributions too high. Things are different. Returns have been high for years, and they will likely stay at similar levels"

Right after a crash, you get the opposite, people worried that the the recent poor returns will continue on a time span of decades.

These are examples of recency bias, and they are quite annoying to anyone involved with trying to do real forecasting or modeling. This approach leads to some problems which aggravate budget cycles, and make contributions more volatile.

It's funny that people aren't talking about the real reason to reduce expected rates of return: lower inflation. However, if you have lower inflation, you should also be adjusting other things in your actuarial models. The net effect won't be very big. If however you adjust only the expected real rate of return, the effects are quite noticeable.

Also - before I crash - saw this...

Old PDF from 2005

Loads a big PDF via google.docs but shows how convoluted & complex the flow off goods & services are in int'l supply chains [uses Honeywell Aerospace as an example]... that was five years ago - if anything its wilder now.

Not making a statement - just putting it out there for a 'wow'.

Nytol

YouTube - Chile's presidential elections highlight rich-poor divide
YouTube - Raw Video: Looting Persists in Chile
YouTube - Chile looting.mpg
you can spot which class the looters belong too, low to middle class, which would be majority of population
compare the people who wear suits, are supervisors, are police officers to the people doing the looting
their skin, their hair, are they wearing a sweater or a coat, baseball cap,...

I was curious as to what the reaction of the California contingent here would be. My thought that Brown might be an ideal candidate for the Dems.

And here in Washington State, they are raising taxes by $758 million to balance the budget.

Politics Northwest | House Democrats propose $758 million in new taxes | Seattle Times Newspaper

some investor guy wrote:

Right after a crash, you get the opposite, people worried that the the recent poor returns will continue on a time span of decades.

NJ I believe borrowed a sack full of money to invest post-tech bubble and make up the pension fund losses

dryfly wrote:

Old PDF from 2005
Loads a big PDF via google.docs but shows how convoluted & complex the flow off goods & services are in int'l supply chains [uses Honeywell Aerospace as an example]... that was five years ago - if anything its wilder now.

cool pdf, easy reading

EvilHenryPaulson wrote:

I can't speak for the entire USA, but I've seen enough stories showing up to suggest that layoffs and not attrition are the theme for 2010

Yes, real layoffs. In the news today are totals of how many public health workers have been laid off.

Especially in the case of CA, some cuts will actually make things work better. You know, stimulate business and improve quality of life by firing the entire Parking Enforcement Office. They don't have nearly as much to do lately.

They don't take welfare; they do god's work.

Goldman Sachs sold notes as U.S. banks seek to replace $309 billion of government-guaranteed debt with longer-dated maturities. The bank had $20.8 billion of senior unsecured debt guaranteed by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. in December, according to a filing yesterday with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission.

Goldman Sachs was the first bank to use the Temporary Liquidity Guarantee Program, which provided access to credit markets after the collapse of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. in September 2008. It backs the debt with FDIC guarantees.

Goldman Bond Yield Spread Narrows More Than 40%: Credit Markets - Bloomberg.com

RoseThorn,I have met and spoken to Jerry Brown and lived in Oakland when he was Mayor,he was not merely incompetent.If you chose a Governor randomly from the population,excluding those with IQ's under 50 and those who are actually incarcerated in prison or mental hospitals it would almost certainly be a better choice.Does anyone know if his sidekick Barzhagi is still around?

badger,
that was last year's budget, the new one comes out this month
from the pdf you linked

I am announcing a deficit of $3.9 billion in 2009-2010.
That deficit represents 1.3% of our GDP.

given that they promised to balance the budget within 5 years last year, they have to propose something that makes closing the gap roughly theoretically a smooth possibility within 3 years afterward

keep in mind a large part of their GDP is in stuff like Hydro Quebec, where doesn't have spare cash with the announcement they are buying NB's power company

Interesting; I guess the "moonbeam" label was an appropriate label.

1 currency now -yogi wrote:

They don't take welfare; they do god's work.

Criminy yogi, it's just a guarantee, it's not like we really loaned them the money and are on the hook for it or anything. I mean, look at Fannie and Freddie, or uh rather, don't look because it will make your head spin.

That Barton Fink Feeling wrote:

Then again, ask yourself if the US needs any more business grads. Haven't the existing ones done enough damage?

As both an MBA and a physics/math grad, those physics/math people can be really dangerous doing financial modeling with no business background. This is especially the case if not raised in the US and if they haven't been employed through an entire business cycle. Then, they more easily miss details which fairly regular people would have known just by being raised here.

rosethorn wrote:

Jerry Brown to announce candidacy for CA governor

It would have been much more fun if he had moved to TX to run there.

rosethorn wrote:

I was curious as to what the reaction of the California contingent here would be. My thought that Brown might be an ideal candidate for the Dems

Jack Loizeaux for Governor.

RoseThorn,jerry Brown is completely devoid of common sense,it is very striking to meet someone with none at all.

Or his son Mark. "We change cityscapes, we change neighborhoods, we remove pockets of urban decay that permit healing."

These are examples of recency bias, and they are quite annoying to anyone involved with trying to do real forecasting or modeling. This approach leads to some problems which aggravate budget cycles, and make contributions more volatile.

Agreed.

That is why your are supposed to use a really long term average rate of return when setting your pernsion assumptions and then save up your above average returns to offset periods of below average returns.

California went out and spent the above average returns so now must live hand-to-mouth on the upcoming below average returns.

NorkaWest wrote:

That is why your are supposed to use a really long term average rate of return when setting your pernsion assumptions and then save up your above average returns to offset periods of below average returns.
California went out and spent the above average returns so now must live hand-to-mouth on the upcoming below average returns.

The key things are to keep making your contributions, and not to give away new benefits in good times.

Western Europe (geographically, on the Atlantic coast) is getting pounded by wind/rain/flooding
http://www.lemonde.fr/planete/infographie/2010/03/01/le-trajet-de-la-tempete-xynthia_1313048_3244.html#ens_id=1311986
it's in French, but mostly graphical
El-Nino is having a monster of a year, I'd hate to own any kind of re-insurer at a time like this

Parting shot: A look at OPEC oil production « Wasatch Economics

The charts at the link show that OPEC production was down significantly in 2009 from 2008; while US oil stocks are creeping up. At the same time, US gasoline consumption has been the lowest on record for seven straight months.

I think it's a fairly clear signal backing up the idea that there's a massive amount of oil being stored by short term investors. Nytol

Sh#t. got locked out of editing my typos so I will repost.

These are examples of recency bias, and they are quite annoying to anyone involved with trying to do real forecasting or modeling. This approach leads to some problems which aggravate budget cycles, and make contributions more volatile.

Agreed.

That is why you are are supposed to use a really long term average rate of return when setting your pension assumptions and then save up your above average returns to offset periods of below average returns.

California went out and spent the above average returns so now must live hand-to-mouth on the upcoming below average returns.

The key things are to keep making your contributions, and not to give away new benefits in good times.

Agreed, again.

EvilHenryPaulson wrote:

I'd hate to own any kind of re-insurer

Because you'd be embarassed to have gotten rich in a ponzi scheme or because you used it as leverage for an even bigger scheme...?

rosethorn
Ummm gasoline consumption was down for 7 straight months because the snow prevented people from driving. Larry Summers can't imagine the economy heading for a new normal, or even a double dip. He refuses to imagine it in fact.

EvilHenryPaulson wrote:

Larry Summers can't imagine the economy heading for a new normal, or even a double dip. He refuses to imagine it in fact.

You would be surprised how many people in econ and finance just don't consider certain reasonable possibilities.

it may have been more of a political statement, but it was an interview about economics and Summers said he refuses to believe that the American economy is capable of, and will produce nothing less than what it did in the 1990s in terms of growth

EvilHenryPaulson wrote:

the American economy is capable of, and will produce nothing less than what it did in the 1990s in terms of growth

Well, if we were investing in different things than bailouts, that might be true.

just dropped in to snark after reading previous thread

where it was said, paraphrasing

RayOnTheFarm wrote 4:57 pm

Someone passed me on the road last week, with a sign in the car window that said Palin/ Cheney 2012!


hmmmmm

so this would be cheney's third terrm as president, right? Wink

soig
I can't remember for sure, but I'm pretty certain that Summers stated 5% growth / 2% inflation was possible without delay, and without taking losses (this may have been implicit within the same interview. the message was, recovery is here, everything is normal, we are super-heroes)

Associated Press | It's hard enough to find a job in this economy, and now some people are facing another hurdle: Potential employers are holding their credit histories against them.

With that mind, state legislators in Illinois and 15 other states have proposed bills to ban credit checks on most job applicants, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. Hawaii and Washington already have such bans in place.

"We are in the great recession and this creates a vicious cycle," said Maryland Delegate Kirill Reznik, who drafted a bill being considered in his state. "People lose their jobs, that naturally precipitates them getting behind on bills, their credit scores go down, they are trying to find a job to pay off the bills, and employers won't hire them because of their credit score.
Sixty percent of employers recently surveyed by the Society for Human Resources Management said they run credit checks on at least some job applicants, compared with 42 percent in a somewhat similar survey in 2006.

This might be of interest:

FT.com / Companies / Industrial Goods - US manufacturers face skills shortages

Manufacturing companies in the US are struggling to find workers with technical skills even though the sector has shed more than 2m jobs in the past two years. The shortage of skilled staff could restrict companies’ ability to step up production as the economic recovery gathers pace.

In interviews with the Financial Times, groups ranging from Boeing – one of the US’s biggest manufacturers and exporters – to small companies also said they faced a wave of skilled workers reaching retirement age in the next few years, with a shortage of younger workers to replace them.

Economic Uncertainty Means Fewer Male Babies | Smart Journalism. Real Solutions. | Miller-McCune Online Magazine
The researchers examined California’s ratio of male to female births from mid-1995 to the end of 2007 and compared it to the federal Labor Department’s monthly statistics on mass layoffs in the state. The government reports a mass layoff has taken place when 50 or more people file for unemployment insurance from a single company over five weeks.
After doing some complex calculations, they estimated that news of impending mass layoffs “predicted the loss of 3,090 males in utero” during the 61 months (out of the 141 they examined) in which unemployment claims exceeded the expected number.

a minor effect, but then again the periods of unemployment for young families were probably relatively mild
something to look back at in the next few years

The shortage of skilled staff could restrict companies’ ability to step up production

Funny. One of the things that woke me up from (relative) libertarian orthodoxy was the way labor was often reported as being 'in shortage'. Of course, standard economics tells us that 'shortage' just means the price is higher than some people would like; no one reports oil shortages or bread shortages or car shortages, absent price controls. The fact that 'labor shortages' are reported just shows that business owns media and that business doesn't want to pay the going rate for machinists, or welders, or what have you. It would upset their preconceived notions of how much some people are actually worth.

Aussies have upped rate to 4%, have been gradually hiking rate, and yet their economy continues to grow.

Bernanke has ZIRP, and our economy continues to struggle.

Cause/effect?

Is there something sacred about bondholders? I admit not understanding high finance but is there some devastating economic calamity which ensues from bondholders taking a haircut? This event often seems to be the obstacle to me which is avoided and we end up with extend and pretend.

from huffpo

regarding new consumerr protection agency dodds proposal

what a joke

"Dodd's proposal puts a variety of obstacles in front of the proposed agency, which would be called the Bureau of Financial Protection and housed in the Treasury Department.
Story continues below

Each time the agency wanted to write a rule, it would have to consult with bank regulators. The agency would then have to respond to each and every bank regulator objection in the Federal Register. If the bank regulator was still unsatisfied, it could appeal to the "systemic regulator," whose mission is to protect the safety and soundness of the banking industry.

Anytime a new rule is proposed, bank lobbyists argue that it will be burdensome and make the system less safe and sound. If the systemic regulator agreed with the banks -- as they often do -- then the consumer protection rule would be voided.

Notably, the consumer protection agency has no veto power over any rules issued by bank regulators, which demonstrates which regulator will be superior. The first concern is the banks.

Dodd's proposal is much weaker than that called for by the House and by President Obama.

"Abusive lending made possible by inadequate consumer protections was a major cause of the financial crisis, and we cannot allow the status quo to continue," said Nancy Zirkin, Executive Vice President of the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, in a statement. "Big banks and abusive lenders fought responsible regulation before the crisis, and we are all paying the price. It is unacceptable for Congress to allow them to succeed again."

The new BFP would not be allowed to enforce rules on banks with less than $10 billion in holdings, according to the memo, unless the bank regulator's Inspector General determines the regulator is failing at its duty -- an extremely unlikely scenario.

The proposal also makes it nearly impossible for the agency to enforce rules against non-bank financial operations, such as payday lenders. Sen. Tim Johnson (D-S.D.), next in line to become chairman of the Banking Committee when Dodd resigns, and Sen. Richard Shelby (R-Ala.), the top-ranking Republican, are both very close to the payday lending industry.

Consumer Groups Rip Chris Dodd Over Financial Protection Agency Compromise

ghostfaceinvestah wrote:

Aussies have upped rate to 4%, have been gradually hiking rate, and yet their economy continues to grow.

• Investing in houses with borrowed money was/is still profitable, there were also government house purchase incentives in addition to the low interest rates
• They are the prime commodity supplier to Asia, and Asia has been running some extremely loose lending to goose their economies, much of that has gone into commodities as an inflation hedge/investment

Neither drivers are sustainable, nor are they suitable for the USA. Bernanke was raising rates in 2006 fwiw
The only thing raising rates would do to stimulate the economy is to force debt wipeouts earlier, and avoiding sudden losses is their prime directive.

homedad43 wrote:

If things really go to hell, I'm gonna take a cart to a really tony neighborhood and offer up my services as a valet or personal looter.

US State Department warning alert for visitors to Chile, looting rampant (photos, pictures, video)

I think that's a fantastic idea, but watch out for the dudes in that video homedad43!

Me, I'll just wait for the good to show up on craigslist.

I understand the fear that widespread looting leads to lawlessness and a breakdown of society. But I was stuck by the thought that in a truly horrendous calamity, there wouldn't be any way for the goods to flow in a normal channel; no banks functioning, no currency available, perishables rotting, people suffering while just on the other side of the glass is the remedy. Now I realize that a TV or a camera doesn't fit that description, and in the general melee those things are going to be stolen, but at some point in a disaster (low as it may be), looting makes sense.

sdtfs
Organized crime was very efficient immediately after WWII ended in Japan

Brown's ahead in the polls by like 10 points. Meg Whitman not a particularly inspiring candidate for the GOP. Brown's just wacky enough that it's hard to lump him in with the Boxer/Pelosi crowd. I think Brown takes it in the fall.

Not that it matters all that much. CA gov is pretty handcuffed by the state legislature and all the rules and laws we have on spending and taxes.

efficient in that you could go to a mob run market, and get whatever you needed at a market clearing price
it's a huge story in itself, laid the foundations for 6 decades of Japan's post-war political scene

broward wrote:

It's harder to use a guillotine on them.

Didn't the Godfather use a baseball bat?

EvilHenryPaulson wrote:

6 decades of Japan's post-war political scene

Ahhhhh, the rise of the Yakusa.

Actually, I was just musing on the near universal nature of looting after a natural catastrophe and wondering if there were an economic justification, vis a vis an"efficient market" type thing, or turning it on it's head, an "inefficient market" avoidance thing. Still trying to sort through if you could/should distinguish between a natural disaster and a general societal breakdown.
After all, if your child is hungry, who wouldn't grab a loaf of bread? But that's one slippery slope: from bread to toilet paper to the cool taste of Laramie cigarettes.

Bart: Uh, say, are you guys crooks?
Fat Tony: Bart, is it wrong to steal a loaf of bread to feed your starving family?
Bart: No.
Fat Tony: Well, suppose you got a large starving family. Is it wrong to steal a truckload of bread to feed them?
Bart: Uh uh.
Fat Tony: And, what if your family don't like bread? They like... cigarettes?
Bart: I guess that's okay.
Fat Tony: Now, what if instead of giving them away, you sold them at a price that was practically giving them away. Would that be a crime, Bart?
Bart: Hell, no.

you can only loot once
there needs to be some kind of transaction to get ongoing supplies
to that end Yakuza would take anything and everything someone had, and make sure the black market stayed open and supplied

it was not pretty (eg food for sex slavery in brothels which was traded with corrupt US Armed Forces for the things they could pilfer or smuggle in), the Yakuza did get rich & powerful as middle-men, but they overcame problems of scarcity or legality and made things more available

because of their success in running the black market, they were later accepted as full partners in the war against communism, which led to expansion into South Korea, Philippines, Indonesia, etc because Japan -- like Germany in Europe -- was desired to be a US-friendly regional power (which was why they both had such favourable patent licensing and other treatment

Thanks to whoever recommended Hurt Locker. Excellent movie.

Slow-moving, deliberate and tense.

The Hurt Locker Movie Reviews, Pictures - Rotten Tomatoes (High rating)

Baseball bat + Al Capone in the Untouchables.

GM recalling 1.3 million vehicles over steering problems

DETROIT (Reuters) - General Motors Co is recalling 1.3 million compact cars in North America to address a power steering problem that has been linked to 14 crashes and one injury, the company said on Tuesday.

The judge said that it was important that they rush through bankruptcy to keep steady production up.

Always a great idea to rush factory production of a lethal device.

Anonymous Bosch wrote:

DETROIT (Reuters) - General Motors Co is recalling 1.3 million compact cars in North America to address a power steering problem that has been linked to 14 crashes and one injury, the company said on Tuesday.

At long fucking last!

I was researching the Pontiac G6, and kept running into horrible stories about the electrically assisted power steering.

E.g. Steering Lockup Issues & Discussion - Pontiac G6 Forum

Excerpt 1: I returned to the car about 90 minutes later and was able to drive home with no problems. I was in the car two more times that day with no problems as well. At midnight, however, when I was picking my wife up from work, I experienced the same gradual tugging on the steering wheel and it eventually locked up again right when I was pulling up to our house.

Excerpt 2: it happened again! when i first started the car yesterday, i put it in reverse to back out of a parking spot; when i put the car into drive, the steering wheel flew all the way to the left on its own. the wheel locked up again and the "power steering" message appeared on the DIC.
its back in the shop. more later!

sdtfs wrote:

but at some point in a disaster (low as it may be), looting makes sense.

So you support TARP now?

"After our in-depth investigation, we found that this is a condition that takes time to develop. It tends to occur in older models out of warranty," GM Vice President of Quality Jamie Hresko said in the statement."

"Recalling these vehicles is the right thing to do for our customers' peace of mind," he said.

Cynical Bosch said, "Someone tipped them off."

Maybe all these sweatshop electronics aren't all they're cracked up to be.

You'd think they could design it just to fail, leaving you with manual steering.

Why do anything before the complaints reach critical mass?
edit: How long did Ford ignore the exploding gas tanks?

Investment Banks Raise Pay as U.K. Efforts to Cut Compensation Fall Flat

Im shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!

Maybe one day we'll round up the usual suspects and give them the chop, necks or no necks.

:guillotine:

You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! Damn you all to hell!

GM said the affected vehicles can be still be "safely controlled" but it may require greater steering effort under 15 mph. Drivers will see a warning light and hear a chime if the power steering fails.

Nothingburger for a strong guy like Bosch.

I think it was my Rabbit that had no power steering. Parallel parking with 3" clearance was a nice workout.

For those interested in important stuff failing that shouldn't fail:

The Rudder Story

Summary: The rudder actuator on the 737 could fail and go 'hard-over'. In some configurations and (low) speeds, this could and did cause the aircraft to crash.

Drivers will see a warning light and hear a chime if the power steering fails.

But will drivers know what the light and chime mean? Most drivers I meet these days are terrified that the car will go rogue on them at any moment.

Anonymous Bosch wrote:

Most drivers I meet these days are terrified that the car will go rogue

America - The Land of Unacknowledged Paranoia.

With an uncommanded turn to the left, perhaps at speed, a warning chime will be the least of their problems.

Nothingburger for a strong guy like Bosch.

Laughing out loud That's right. All else fails, stop on the side of the road and pump a couple of .45 rounds into the computer. "Take that, you POS!"

Anonymous Bosch wrote:

and pump a couple of .45 rounds into the computer. "Take that, you POS!"

I'd rather save the ammo for something better. Wink

How many SUVs flip over because drivers don't understand CoG?

Something about asking someone else to shoot your own dog.

Anonymous Bosch wrote:

Something about asking someone else to shoot your own dog.

Gunpowder traces will void the warranty, you know.

I'm very disappointed that Netflix appears to have stopped adding new titles to the Instant Watch list. When the revolution happens I may have to join just out of boredom.

Good thing Ol' Nell doesn't have all that fancy crapola. But regardless, I voided the warranty years ago when I built and installed the world's only Honda Civic tow hitch.

Ooh, schrapnel.

Notes on VIX: crushed flat, and dropping. For the past year, few months have not seen a spike after the games of opex week, sometimes a massive spike into month-end, on several occasions a dip into month end from the spike.

It's quiet. Too quiet. Like the hostage has been gagged and has a gun to his head, while the crazed captor listens to the sounds outside the room in case the law's on its way. /lights flicker, extra close-ups of whites of eyes, sweat beads, drips...

C

Counterpointer wrote:

It's quiet. Too quiet. Like the hostage has been gagged and has a gun to his head

Or the hostage has been buried alive with an 8-hour supply of oxygen.

"In a related concern, the light and chime tend to fail when the electronics do..."

Have to admit, 'pointer, I've never understood the VIX. Is it Bucky in relation to ALL other currencies?

By the by, Pound is dropping against the Euro faster than the Euro is dropping against USD.

Brittania Rules the Wages goes glub, glub, glub, before Greece slides out of the frying pan and into the FIRE?

"In a related concern, the light and chime tend to fail when the electronics do..."

Whoa! How cool is that?

That's a NY cab driver under normal conditions.

Nope, implied volatility, Chicago Board. Basically there's far less volatility suggested by options positions than one would expect given current market uncertainty. Here's a good primer, which needs updating:

VIX and More: Ten Things Everyone Should Know About the VIX

S&P VIX has a Nas correlate, VXN. The Yerp indices are now renamed if you search on Bloomie for instance - VDAX is now V1X, VStoxx is V2X. The tradable VXX has now been supplemented by a bunch of iPath other short-term stuff, VXZ, VXIM.

It's hardly noise-free, but the basics, and the monthly/quarterly cycles are worth a look.

C

Greece Now, U.K. Next as Scots Investors Ready for 20-30% Plunge in Pound That should be a boon for British manufacturing.

Big smile yogi. That osama always was a real cut up.

Off to read VIX and More.

...

M1 velocity was still falling at the end of December.

Got Concrete?

edit:
December = 8.51

Anonymous Bosch wrote:

That should be a boon for British manufacturing.

I still wouldn't buy a Land Rover for 30% off and what other manufacturing is left in England?

mp wrote:

M1 velocity was still falling at the end of December.

Inflation in the things you need.

Deflation in the things you don't want (like a British auto).

Deflation in the things you don't want (like, say, a mortgage-backed security now owned by the Fed)

M1 multiplier, as of February 10, is .809.

Got Concrete?

And what have we here, a FTSE VIX too. I say, jolly good show.

Euronext - Charts > Charts analysis

I haven't found a live, free Nikki VIX. There's some academic work extrapolating what it would have looked like. Useful for 20:20 hindsight. Ah, so that's why I lost my shirt and browned my pants...

C

Sorry to be a complete boobinski, it's not an act. So, if VIX is up futures are more volatile, market less predictable? Or is that backwards?

Now M1 multiplier declining. What's that portend, in boobinski terms?
Quick tour through Wiki... money supply is shrinking. Deflation then?

Nikki Vix live, eh? I think I saw the show in Amsterdam.

money supply is shrinking. Deflation then?

By definition, in Economics jargon.

Pretty much, if volatility is up it means more and greater positions are being taken to hedge against swings, and when it spikes, like in September 08, it suggests the whipsaw cometh. It's neither good nor bad, just a reflection of market sentiment. Now, if you're a Vampire Squid from Hell, then some of your business lines are predicated on making money out of volatility, so if it goes down, your arb opportunities reduce. Leading into that situation it's probably a good idea to ramp up elsewhere, rotate sectoral exposure, invent some volatility in stocks or something else to arb. Or you could hunker down and just print money from borrowing at effective zero from your friendly local CB and lend and lever longer. But then you get very unhappy campers in your executive committee because most of the thrillseekers can't run lucrative risk plays.

As to M1 multiplier declining, I think mp is suggesting the money supply is wearing concrete boots.

C

Thanks for taking the time to explain that in very understandable terms, Counterpointer. I'm not in the markets so very often a lot of what you guys talk about late at night goes over my head.

Mine's only a half-assed understanding based on doing time on a risk committee in a medium-sized finance outfit (whoa, there goes a worrying admission), and most of our work was in credit risk, some country and political risk too. It just seemed useful to do a bit more on wider considerations, market indicators, correlations, especially as we got, uh, a little busy in 08. Used to drive me nuts listening to some of the silo speak from one or other side of the business. All contained, that may be a problem over there but not here, we're different ,diversified, hedged, prudent, only moderately leveraged and so on.

C

Still criss-crossing the globe, C?

March 2 (Bloomberg) -- Senate Banking Committee Chairman Christopher Dodd and Republican Senator Bob Corker are nearing a deal to create a consumer authority at the Federal Reserve, according to two Republican Senate aides.

Dodd, Corker Said to Near Deal on Giving Consumer Power to Fed - Bloomberg.com

I love it! (Really) The fallout from this spectacular stupidity could bring down the Fed.

Pretty much. Mostly Asia-Pacific, but fewer air miles and more conference calls. Trying to fend off excitable types wanting to plow money into renewables at the moment. Great ideas, but you wanna do that where? With them?! Any plans for breakeven in your lifetime? Got R&M much?

I should go on the offensive and solicit bids instead for a syndicate in something mysteriously tantalizing but revolutionary; back-yard cold fusion for slums, micro-nuclear plants, urban waste perpetual motion engines...

C

OMFG. That is the answer to what problem exactly?

Words fail.

C

The stand-alone consumer protection agency was the one idea I was actually impressed with when Obama/Geithner belatedly put forth the financial reform package. I shouldanode...

Why on Earth would the President try to squeeze the recalcitrant Republicans (and some turncoat Democrats) by sticking up for an agency which protects consumers from banks. That would never sell to the American people. We crave bipartisan compromise.

My Head Just Exploded At least Dodd is revealed as a shameless shill.

Dodd’s willingness to give the consumer power to the Federal Reserve represents a departure for the Connecticut Democrat who for years has hammered the central bank for failing to use its existing consumer authority to crack down on mortgage and credit-card lending abuses. In November he called the Fed’s handling of consumer-protection responsibilities an “abysmal failure” and said the central bank should focus on monetary policy.

Just a few more puzzle pieces, the Vampire Squid from Hell and its instrument, the Creature From Jekyll Island, can disband the Congress for good.

In America memories of Katrina will influence events far more than most people realize. Deep down, where the survival lizard lives, any calamity will send a message straight to Mr Lizard. His reply will be "Hssssss....Remember Katrina. You think the government is going to help you....Hssss."

Good morning, nova. Lets take a coffee break

And Katrina said, "Remember me, for I am she whom you scorned and I will have justice."

File this one under "Texas Justice"

BBC News - Texas 'rapist' granted state's first posthumous pardon

The governor of the US state of Texas, Rick Perry, has posthumously pardoned a man who had died in jail after being wrongly convicted of rape.

Texas has given us a couple of warmonger presidents and a penchant for putting people to death, not necessarily in that order.

Good morning Dooooooooooooooom!!! sters...we are so freaking SCREWED. Lets take a coffee break

Typical blame the other guy, no worse than Obowa blaming Bush all the time.

Going to be a lot of finger pointing come November....But for now continue to enjoy the show.

One thing for sure is, last week I said the side work was drying up, well it is soft out there no doubt, but I just scored a 4000 s.f Interior paint job ( commercial ) which is real nice. And pretty much booked solid for the month of March. So no complaints.....keep them coming Big smile I have a few close friends that can use the money, so everyone remains happy, dry and food on the table.

Sucks being a nice guy sometimes, but hey just trying to help as best as I can. Im shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!

Sawgrass Resort Linked to Tiger Woods Apology Files Bankruptcy - Bloomberg.com

March 2 (Bloomberg) -- The owners of Florida’s Sawgrass Marriott Resort, the site of the U.S. PGA Tour’s Tournament Players Championship, sought bankruptcy protection from creditors including Goldman Sachs Group Inc.

RQB Resort LP listed assets and debt of as much as $500 million each in Chapter 11 documents filed yesterday in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Jacksonville, Florida. RQB Development also sought protection. The resort is the home of the TPC Sawgrass golf club where Tiger Woods apologized on Feb. 19 for his marital infidelity.

The 508-room hotel resort has rights to 85 percent of starting times each day to the Players Stadium Course through 2089.

In July 2006, Goldman Sachs Commercial Mortgage Capital LP helped finance the $220.5 million purchase of the 65-acre resort in Ponte Vedra Beach by RBQ Resort and RBQ Development.

Does anyone else have an Apocalypse kit in their home? : reddit.com

Why yes, a few of them actually. Wink

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/8502/img0662xp.jpg

No, but I have 42x 60 pound bags of cement.

No, but I have 42x 60 pound bags of cement.

You building a Got Concrete? sarcophagus Big smile

Will be very interesting to see where AUTO's are at today. I drive a round a lot, and I do not see too many shiny new cars on the road.

But I have talked to a lot of people trying to purchase a new car, and many are saying the down payment requirement is too much and have either been turned down or walked away from a deal.

Funny to see people turned away, I mean the TAX payers do own GM, we should be getting GM cars for practically nothing.

The Precious (can't find the youtube clip)

Wait a minute. If they're Government Motors, aren't they going to cost 80,000 or 90,000? for the basic model?

We are planning to cement in the spots where windows and doors used to be in our house, that's why mp told us to buy so much, right?

Thanks to whoever recommended the following video series; great stuff! I watched all 9 parts and found them to be very watchable and very informative. I sent the link to friends with growing kids.

YouTube - The Hazards of Sugar (Part 1 of 9)

I go back and forth on the whole doom thing.

Things are obviously bad and getting worse but it is hard to see clearly through all of the noise. Mentioned about the lottery tickets coupon last night and wife asked why I was posting something as trivial as that. "Data points, dear."

I have to worry today more about brownies for Youngest's class. The gold/tungsten thing (http://www.zerohedge.com) will just have to wait.

Later, folks.

I have to worry today more about brownies for Youngest's class. The gold/tungsten thing (http://www.zerohedge.com)  will just have to wait.

Later, folks.

This is why it is best to buy your In glod we trust Assayed, even if it is just by the Gram, good to have your stuff Assayed before you have it in hand.

The Hazards of Sugar?

Occasionally threaten people to feed their kids surreptitious amounts of sugar just prior to bedtime. Otherwise too much time worrying about that one.

Counterpointer,option volatility represents the perceived risk that the underlying instrument will not move too far too fast for options traders to adjust their positions and avoid loss.

Thems of youse what wants to accumulate The Precious may do well to consider wire and sheet in a high carat, like 18K. It actually has uses and could have similar uses in the event of dire events.

Wolfram Hi-Jack would only work with larger bars, as tungsten is too brittle of a metal to fake with coins or smaller ingots. Towards the end of this video is a 1/2 kilo bar and you can plainly see it has an actual outer 1/8th inch shell of the real deal.

YouTube - tungstengold.flv

Can you explain what's going on in the picture, shill? Is that dry stack CMU with stucco on the exterior?

Not much of an Apocalypse kit. No water filtration kit? No beans? Rice? Half a cow? Amateur...

First Chance by David Gray

Like a bird upon release
Through the atmosphere
Like a honking flock of geese
Winter drawing near
As the fabric comes unstitched
Hearts and minds and eyes bewitched
Standing watching for the smoke to clear

First chance I get I’m gone

Moses had his tablets yeah
Noah had his ark
All I got’s a haystack needle
Stabbing in the dark

(CBS) Postmaster General John E. Potter is to herald his vision of a shorter post week - eliminating all Saturday deliveries - at a conference Tuesday addressing the future of the U.S. Postal Service, according to a report in USA Today.

According to the article, Potter revealed his intention to seek a shorter delivery week on Monday, saying it was an absolutely unavoidable move if the debt-mired service is ever to climb back into the black.

Postal Chief Seeking 5-Day Delivery Week - CBS News

---Only five days of junk mail?
Ah, man...
Nemo's Monkey Nemo's Monkey

Can you explain what's going on in the picture, shill? Is that dry stack CMU with stucco on the exterior?

oursideofthemountain.com

HomeGnome wrote:

According to the article, Potter revealed his intention to seek a shorter delivery week on Monday, saying it was an absolutely unavoidable move if the debt-mired service is ever to climb back into the black.
Postal Chief Seeking 5-Day Delivery Week - CBS News
---Only five days of junk mail?

And 1-3 fewer days in your credit billing cycle. Not that the consumer credit companies would ever stoop to timed mailings of your bill. That's just Tinfoil Hat

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