Hu's counting?

cuz aint no winners in the premium BFF poll.

cant even summon a CougarsLife add on the homepage..slackers.

It would be interesting to see the unofficial problem bank list totals increasing over time.

It's definitely NOT contained.

Only 154 institutions increased their assets during the quarter with the largest balance sheet increase at West Coast Bank ($80 million). Balance sheet downsizing happened at 462 institutions with the largest decrease at Westernbank Puerto Rico ($1.5 billion) and Sterling Savings Bank ($1 billion).

$1B??? $1.5B??? That's a big change - what happened? I recall CR had a post earlier saying Sheila is looking Caribbean way soon but still - that's a big change.

Hoopajoops LTD wrote:

It would be interesting to see the unofficial problem bank list totals increasing over time.

A hell of a lot more interesting than the bank failures list over time. At 2 per week we'll be done with this in about 20 years. Hmm, wait a minute.

dryfly wrote:

$1B??? $1.5B??? That's a big change - what happened? I recall CR had a post earlier saying Sheila is looking Caribbean way soon but still - that's a big change.

They probably wrote off a couple old Sears stores and an Autozone location. That easily adds up to a $1B. CRE blow out baby!

The first list - at the end of July 2009 - had 390 banks. We are now up to 644 banks and counting. So we are adding about 35 banks per month. And the FDIC is up to 702 (so there are more coming - the difference is mostly a timing issue).

I wonder if we will hit 1,000 by the end of this year? It will probably be close unless the FDIC gets busy flushing them ...

best wishes

poic wrote:

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After the 2010 elections, the 4 remaining democrats will be playing bull$hit bingo while they watch the speech in person. Sad that they are self destructing.. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory....

Chart curves going up are good, right?

C

CalculatedRisk wrote:

I wonder if we will hit 1,000 by the end of this year?

This is like one of those calculus problems with the bathtub filling and draining at the same time, . . .and I wasn't good at solving those either.

longwaver writes:
After the 2010 elections, the 4 remaining democrats will be playing bull$hit bingo while they watch the speech in person. Sad that they are self destructing.. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory....

Go team, rah rah rah. How much do mindless zombies go for these days?

dryfly, my understanding is the FDIC has limited brokered deposits to certain Puerto Rico banks. That probably accounts for the large decline at Westernbank.

R-G Premier (another large Puerto Rico bank) just got a "going concern" warning from their auditors. Reminds me of Corus - and we all know how that worked out.

Exhibit 99.1

"[W]e believe substantial doubt exists as to our ability to continue as a going concern."

"Our financial condition has continued to deteriorate, and management believes that we have come under increasingly close scrutiny by our regulators. The bank regulatory authorities have broad discretion to take actions in response to a banking organization’s failure to meet applicable regulatory requirements, including, ultimately placing a bank into an FDIC-administered receivership or conservatorship."

Soon ...

best wishes

CalculatedRisk wrote:

The first list - at the end of July 2009 - had 390 banks. We are now up to 644 banks and counting. So we are adding about 35 banks per month. And the FDIC is up to 702 (so there are more coming - the difference is mostly a timing issue).
I wonder if we will hit 1,000 by the end of this year? It will probably be close unless the FDIC gets busy flushing them ...

When I was a chem engineer we used to do throughput analysis similar to this... it looks like the bad bank tank will run over unless as you said they 'flush faster'... Other option is they either run out of NEW bad banks going in or at least cut back on the 'flow rate' going in. Can they do that instead?

There's a new problem:

Rob Dawg (homepage, profile) wrote on Tue, 2/23/2010 - 8:05 am

Danger Will Robinson! Danger!:
Derivative Contracts by Maturity**
Interest rate contracts Q4 '09 v Q4 '08
...................................... < 1 year 80,979,677 58,618,112 +38.1%
..................................... 1-5 years 33,638,254 47,456,432 -29.1%
..................................... > 5 years 26,146,311 36,868,247 -29.1%


The banks are going short on the lending curve.

Eh. What could happen?

I'm really not sure how many "bad" banks there will be - so maybe they will slow down on the input. But I suspect 1,000 is possible.

Historically only 15% or so of banks of the problem bank list fail. It will probably be higher over the next couple of years, but that probably suggests a 4 digit list at some point (just a guess)

New bad banks could slow - and Sheila and crew could start flushing faster ...

best wishes

Hey google, index this:

AT&T

An AT&T representative defrauded my elderly father by lying outright about the package he was signing us up for. He stated no contract, that the price quoted was not promotional, and that we would be signing up for the 6 Mbps internet package. We questioned him specifically on these points; there is no chance that this was a miscommunication. After 12 hours of wrangling to abandon our old DSL for AT&T's new offering, including wasting two days for their technician to fix the lines their previous technician screwed up, I find out that we were defrauded. The package was 1.5 Mbps (and we were not qualified to receive the 6 Mbps), it was a 12 month contract with a $150 termination fee,the monthly price was promotional, and would just about double at the end of the term. After waiting on hold for a number of calls, totalling about 8 hours of hold time, I was finally transferred to a retention "specialist" who pretended to be looking into getting my speed package but actually just hung up on me.To make matters worse, because we "switched" from our old ADSL to their crappy, latency-ridden new uverse VDSL, they have disallowed us from switching back.

What a sick, sick company. I am young and I have a long life ahead of me. If there is any opportunity in my long future to cost this company some money, to dispirit their employees, to sow seeds of discontent among their customers, to provide succor to their competitors, or to in some minor way contribute to their misfortunes, I will leap at it.

1 Good Bank of the United States
2 Bad Bank of the Runoff Variety
3 The Grand Reshuffling

We do it ourselves or it will be done for us.

Pretty light on comments this evening. CRVIX going through the floor.

Hoopajoops LTD wrote:

Pretty light on comments this evening. CRVIX going through the floor.

Hockey Night in Canada...

R-G Premier of PR is probably in serious trouble. Their 60 days to comply following the October 23 C&D, plus 25 day revision is over. They are also required, per para 6 of the C&D order, to seek and establish various capital ratios, which sound like a tall order going on what they are presumed to be engaged in:

From the R-G Premier C&D link:

(i) beginning on the effective date of this AMENDED ORDER, the Bank shall maintain a leverage ratio at least 6% and a total risk-based capital ratio of at least 10%;
(ii) beginning on March 31, 2010, the Bank shall meet and maintain a leverage ratio of at least 6.75% and a total risk-based capital ratio of at least 11%; and
(iii) beginning on June 30, 2010, the Bank shall meet and maintain a leverage ratio of at least 8% and a total risk-based capital ratio of at least 12%.

And now the "going concern" warning.

Hi, my name is Sheila, and I'm here to help...

C

Hoopajoops LTD wrote:

Pretty light on comments this evening. CRVIX going through the floor.

Time for some stand-up blogging?

Too angry tonight, TJ. I'm so furious with AT&T that I've been randomly exploding with, "MOTHER FUCKERS" for the last 4 hours.

What, no one's noticed the deer in the headlights yet. Fidelity Bank, Dearborn, MI ($994 million, Ticker: DEAR)

Hoopajoops LTD wrote:

Pretty light on comments this evening.

I was actually musing on if there is any real hope for the banking system to avoid Robby the Robot's scenario. But I keep getting distracted by my internal snark-o-meter. Just like in the Forbidden Planet, we take our demons with us.

Hoopajoops LTD wrote:

Too angry tonight, TJ.

Dunno... Carlin's best stuff was angry rants.

Hoopajoops LTD wrote:

If there is any opportunity in my long future to cost this company some money, to dispirit their employees, to sow seeds of discontent among their customers, to provide succor to their competitors, or to in some minor way contribute to their misfortunes, I will leap at it.

I'm on the old system,....thanks for the warning.

And when it was installed five years ago, it took another tech to solve the first tech's screw-up.

poic wrote:

Didn't Canada win 3-2?

I thought it was 3-0 last I looked [admit I didn't watch it - wife had speed skating on & I was logged into a college hockey game]... Slav's score two late goals?

Slav's score two late goals?


yep, and were threatening to tie it up with 6 skaters on the ice during the last 30 sec -- came very very close to doing so

When the whip comes down.

Citizen Scotto wrote:

yep, and were threatening to tie it up with 6 skaters on the ice during the last 30 sec -- came very very close to doing so

Wow. Doesn't matter - win is a win. Sunday it will be 0-0 when they drop the puck and anything could happen. I'll be watching if for no other reason than my oldest played against Zack Parise in youth hockey - he lit my son's team up like a flood light.

QUESTION... I'm definitely getting the feeling we're starting that "second leg down" a number of us have been anticipating for some time. Anyone else?

dryfly wrote:

Hockey Night in Canada...

That game didn't increase my confidence in Luongo. Two soft goals, followed up by a juicy rebound right on to Demitra's stick that should have sent the game into overtime, if he hadn't missed the net. All in the last few minutes, when the game was what should have been a lock.

My prediction for Sunday: Luongo gets pulled in the first after three soft goals, and Crosby finally wakes up and gets a hat-trick.

But my hockey predictions are just as bad as my market predictions Tongue

sdtfs, upgrading to their new system might be worth it, theoretically, if you can't get cable and if the speed they promise is the speed you get. There's no way to get a straight answer out of the company. They are liars and their company is completely dysfunctional on a fundamental level.

dryfly wrote:

he lit my son's team up like a flood light.

Not often you get to see greatness early & up close.

It's on the list, Fidelity Bank entered into a Material Definitive Agreement Form 8-K, Feb 22.

C

dryfly wrote:

Wow. Doesn't matter - win is a win. Sunday it will be 0-0 when they drop the puck and anything could happen.

If the American's get a quick goal or two it'll be their's to lose. Canada played terribly against Slovakia. I was almost rooting for the Slovaks near the end, as they played the better game. Halak was amazing.

TJ and The Bear wrote:

QUESTION... I'm definitely getting the feeling we're starting that "second leg down" a number of us have been anticipating for some time. Anyone else?

I had that feeling in January, so my crash-o-meter is mis-calibrated by at least two months.

TJ and The Bear wrote:

QUESTION... I'm definitely getting the feeling we're starting that "second leg down" a number of us have been anticipating for some time. Anyone else?

In what? Housing? Equity markets? Output? Employment?

I see activity picking up quite a lot in 'output'... but it is off very low levels. Example: I was told one of our accounts will be up 30% this year. We'd all go whooopie except it was off 70% from the year before... do the math:

Year - units % Up/Down
2008 - 100 Basis
2009 - 30 Off 70%
2010 - 39 Up 30%

That's a bit more extreme than most but sums up what I see.

noob goldberg wrote:

But my hockey predictions are just as bad as my market predictions

Me too...

Sign me up for Canada 4 USA 1 - home ice advantage [they have to win or they'll all be petitioning for US citizenship].

dryfly wrote:

Sign me up for Canada 4 USA 1 - home ice advantage [they have to win or they'll all be petitioning for US citizenship].

They'll have the crowd, but I secretly hope its going to be a high-scoring game. 6-5, and I don't even care who wins. I just want a good game where the talent absolutely shines from both sides.

dryfly wrote:

That's a bit more extreme than most but sums up what I see.

Was listening to a Bloomberg interviewee today who pointed out that manufacturing is the single bright spot in an otherwise dismal picture in the U.S. What's that about? Wind down from C4C, or something more fundamental?

noob goldberg wrote:

If the American's get a quick goal or two it'll be theres to lose. Canada played terribly against Slovakia. I was almost rooting for the Slovaks near the end, as they played the better game. Halak was amazing.

The night the Czech's beat the Russians for gold a few Olympics ago I was drinking in a bar with a guy who used to play for the Czechoslovakian Nat'l Team [before they split]... he was actually Slovakian but we still rooted for the Czech's like crazy. And got totally wasted when they beat the Rus.

dryfly wrote:

In what? Housing? Equity markets? Output? Employment?

All of the above, although not necessarily all at once.

MLM wrote:

What's that about? Wind down from C4C, or something more fundamental?

More fundamental. Dollar weakness & a need to back fill some demand means some more domestic activity - not all just inventory restocking either. Think industrial 'repairs' not consumer markets though.

But it is still nowhere near enough to float this boat we call the economy.

dryfly wrote:

Sign me up for Canada 4 USA 1 - home ice advantage [they have to win or they'll all be petitioning for US citizenship].

I'll take Canada 3-2 with most of the game 3-1 and a last second 6 man US desperation score. If the Canadians lose JDs Gulag Hockeypelago will be a distinct possibility.

dryfly wrote:

Me too...
Sign me up for Canada 4 USA 1 - home ice advantage [they have to win or they'll all be petitioning for US citizenship].

lol - doubt that - they still have free health care...

As a Caps fan, I was rooting for Slovakia tonight - so I will certainly be rooting for USA on Sunday. I would like a good hockey game too - as opposed to the travesty Russia gave us the other night! Cindy Crosby can keep sucking Mike Millbury's crotch too...

dryfly wrote:

And got totally wasted when they beat the Rus.

Heh, that's awesome. They played an old-school clog-the-neutral-zone four-back, one-forward game, and the Canadians didn't know what to do with themselves. The only way they scored the first two goals were redirections, because Halak was stopping everything else. The Slovaks didn't give up, not even for a second, even after they were down 3-0.

Given their underdog status, I give full credit to their coach as well as Peter Bondra for eeking that much out of their team, and taking it as far as they did.

noob goldberg wrote:

They'll have the crowd, but I secretly hope its going to be a high-scoring game. 6-5, and I don't even care who wins. I just want a good game where the talent absolutely shines from both sides.

I'm not invested either - not like 1980. A half dozen or so of the Miracle Team I used to see regularly on campus - they were in the same dormitory complex - went to the same bars. And of course there was Herbie - I had season tickets from 1975 on...

this is real_folks wrote:

Cindy Crosby can keep sucking Mike Millbury's crotch too...

That boy is due for a good game. I only saw glimpses of his talent tonight (or even during the whole tournament, for that matter), but when he turns it on it's like everyone else slows down to half speed. He truly is amazing, not just in raw talent but in creativity.

EDIT: Okay, sorry to bore everyone with the hockey talk, I'm heading to bed. Nytol.

dryfly wrote:

But it is still nowhere near enough to float this boat we call the economy.

Thanks dryfly. I'm still firmly in the TJ Double Dip followed by Dooooooooooooooom!!! camp, but keeping an ear to the ground (and hoping) for evidence I'm missing something.

Financial Armageddon: It Comes Down to Politics, As Usual

One other thing: some people seem to think that buying equities is a great way to hedge against inflation. Is that correct? The answer is that "it depends." Based on what occurred during the Weimar years, inflation isn't the only consideration. Real output, among other things, also matters. Those who bought German equities just as hyperinflation accelerated into its intermediate phase lost around 80 percent of their investment in real -- inflation-adjusted -- terms over the course of 10 months. As with most investment decisions, timing is everything.

Anyone who thinks this is close to over I have a deal for you:
14536 SPRINGDALE Cir, Adelanto, CA 92301 | MLS# P702260

Sold new 2005: $325k
Offered at $70k

I'm sensing a pattern with the Canadian squad. Play bad one game and then good the next.

Wow, a big $32/sf. Of course, Adelanto is no Carmel Valley. Wink

Wow. I linked that on my facebook account.

Maybe some of the folks paying $100/sq ft in Texas will take a look at that and go ... What the hell?

MLM wrote:

Thanks dryfly. I'm still firmly in the TJ Double Dip followed by Dooooooooooooooom!!! camp, but keeping an ear to the ground (and hoping) for evidence I'm missing something.

Here's another example:

A company I work with almost went under in summer 2009 - very successful tier 1 supplier to recreational equip & lawn/garden machinery OEMs. They were slow to layoff & cut back as the downdraft hit [they are kind of rural & remote - last to know]. Anyway they eventually caught on as to how bad it was & made drastic cut backs in employment & plants. They are probably 40% smaller in head count and 20% smaller in square feet under roof.

A very good contact told me now that they are 'right sized' they made more money last quarter than the two previous years combined even considering the much lower output. He said they like making money for a change and do NOT plan to rehire anytime soon.

Repeat that all across the US and I think you have a pretty accurate picture of where we are.

Brendan Morrow was injured and left the game, which screwed up the best line of the night Morrow / Getzlaf / Perry
Bergeron was his replacement, and it was worse than being shorthanded

dryfly wrote:

Repeat that all across the US and I think you have a pretty accurate picture of where we are.

Good for them, but still doesn't change my outlook one iota. In fact, it reinforces it.

The survivors are hunkered down, watching their resources like a hawk, and not spending a thin dime on anything they don't have to have. The rest, having played their own version of "extend & pretend" holding out for that oft-promised recovery, will now roll over and die.

Title shows 4 bedrooms but property have 5 bedrooms. Buyer to verified all permits.

Those inspectors are looking to justify their jobs, too. Could be an expensive problem to fix.

TJ and The Bear wrote:

The survivors are hunkered down, watching their resources like a hawk, and not spending a thin dime on anything they don't have to have. The rest, having played their own version of "extend & pretend" holding out for that oft-promised recovery, will now roll over and die.

No, they won't die. They'll just "disinvest" on craigslist. It's almost like someone spelled all this out on their blog 3 years ago.

Rob Dawg wrote:

It's almost like someone spelled all this out on their blog 3 years ago.

Yeah, almost like that! Smile

p.s.: Still waiting for the redhead.

TJ and The Bear wrote:

p.s.: Still waiting for the redhead.

It's worth the wait. I'm not gonna waste her on an Adelanto listing. I might use her for the $275m listing in Ojai. The $275 million was a typo. The eventual $2.75 m price correction is just as crazy. Crazy redheads.

AIG issues going concern warning, FNM wants another $15 bil, zombie bank list expands...

Something tells me the financial sector is still not well.

Fannie Taps Treasury for $15.3 Billion More After a 10th Loss - Bloomberg.com

C

dryfly,

Upon the (first) downdraft there was a point when everything turned negative. Then, after massive government intervention, stocks turned up and everything else turned "mixed". Well, now I'm seeing the mixed signals turning predominantly downward again; hell, I even sense CR struggling to find silver linings in his posts lately.

Rob Dawg wrote:

The $275 million was a typo.

Listing "in Ojai" or "for Ojai"? Too much even on the second count. Laughing out loud

Counterpointer wrote:

Something tells me the financial sector is still not well.

That's a part of what I'm talking about. The leeches aren't about to let go...

TJ and The Bear wrote:

Listing "in Ojai" or "for Ojai"? Too much even on the second count

1118 N Signal St, Ojai, CA 93023 | MLS# 10003188

Idiots want 5x what they paid in 1998. Wishing price is not dead.

Rob Dawg wrote:

Wishing price is not dead.

Let's introduce them to the Prius couple -- they have lots in common.

Rob Dawg wrote:

Idiots want 5x what they paid in 1998. Wishing price is not dead.

Well they haven't passed the financial advisor responsibility law, and so Bernanke is allowed to give irresponsible advice without consequence

Satan didn't have a great game today, but the Slovaks did come close in the last 5 minutes

EvilHenryPaulson wrote:

Satan didn't have a great game today, but the Slovaks did come close in the last 5 minutes

Luongo almost single-handedly lost the game. It was an impressive feat with only 5 minutes left.

Okay, ipod off, going to sleep now. Night.

noob goldberg wrote:

Luongo almost single-handedly lost the game. It was an impressive feat with only 5 minutes left.

the first goal was bad, he better bring more than his mediocre game Sunday
he's an odd cookie, the more he is challenged and the bigger the game, the better he plays (provided he isn't exhausted from playing a huge amount of hockey, not the case right now)
he needs to work on staying sharp when the pressure is off, has taken the team's play for granted

Where we are headed:

Cash-strapped individuals and families resigned to sleeping illegally in their vehicles in Ventura may soon get some relief.

Starting Monday, people can apply to be part of a pilot program that would allow certain vehicles and qualified participants to legally park overnight in one of two designated church parking lots.

City officials, however, are refusing to reveal the locations of the two lots, even though they have allocated $22,000 in public money for the program.

Applicants must pass a drug test, show proof they have lived in Ventura and possess valid vehicle insurance to be part of the program known as Safe Sleep Ventura, organizers said.

I don't even know where to begin. Story here: Ventura program will allow people to legally sleep in cars » Ventura County Star

butter wrote:

there's poor people in SoCal?

As it was foretold: The poor you will always have with you, . . .

huge earthquake 175 miles south of valpriso chile, 8 plus

update

A massive earthquake of 8.8 magnitude strikes central Chile, north-east of the city of Concepcion.

Quake registered at 8.8 Tsunami advisory in force for Hawai'i, est 11:19am local landfall. Presume news of landfall closer to Chile, eg Peru, would provide indicators in advance.

Hawaii under tsunami advisory after magnitude 8.8 quake strikes off Chile - Bulletin - Starbulletin.com
NOAA Pacific Tsunami Warning Center
http://www.prh.noaa.gov/ptwc/messages/pacific/2010/pacific.2010.02.27.074403.txt

C

Can't imagine that magnitude. I can't imagine any structures would be designed to withstand that. It's more a matter of local geology whether anything is left standing.

Newswire says 9-foot tsunami hit Chile.

Could be more heading in other directions.

Reuters
SANTIAGO, Feb 27 (Reuters) - A tsunami warning has been lifted in southern Chile, where a a 8.8-magnitude struck, a local radio station reported, citing the Chilean navy.

The Friedman NY Fed / Glodman story, and insider trading allegations, continues to bubble away:

Friedmanism at the Fed

As it should.

C

TJ and The Bear wrote:

Those who bought German equities just as hyperinflation accelerated into its intermediate phase lost around 80 percent of their investment in real -- inflation-adjusted -- terms over the course of 10 months.

But it looks like 1 year after that they recovered all of it even while hyperinflation just exploded.
Seriously, if you look at those 2 charts, it is as if Equities were a pretty good place to hide during those 2 years of Hyperinflation. Who would have thought that can work.

Good point about the increase from 390 banks to 644 and still counting.
Everything is a timing issue and is not going to get better soon.

I agree. At least 1000. And I don't think it could slow in the next couples of years....

Ethics panel clears 7 on earmarks - washingtonpost.com

"The House ethics committee ruled Friday that seven lawmakers who steered hundreds of millions of dollars in largely no-bid contracts to clients of a lobbying firm had not violated any rules or laws by also collecting large campaign donations from those contractors. "

The lawmakers -- Reps. Norm Dicks (D-Wash.), Marcy Kaptur (D-Ohio), James P. Moran Jr. (D-Va.), Todd Tiahrt (R-Kan.), Peter J. Visclosky (D-Ind.) and C.W. Bill Young (R-Fla.) -- claimed vindication.

Simply because a member sponsors an earmark for an entity that also happens to be a campaign contributor does not, on these two facts alone, support a claim that a member's actions are being influenced by campaign contributions, the House Committee on Standards of Official Conduct said in a unanimous statement.

REBear wrote:

Simply because a member sponsors an earmark for an entity that also happens to be a campaign contributor does not, on these two facts alone, support a claim that a member's actions are being influenced by campaign contributions

no, one would need an informant to prove the rest of the case

this does establish motive and opportunity, however

see, this is where the problem resides, the intense scrutiny of actions known to be harmful for the relationship, and finding nothing wrong

The new retirement plan.

The Granddad Bandit is not the only middle-age bank robbery suspect currently being sought. Authorities in Houston, Texas, are looking for a woman dubbed "Bad Granny," believed responsible for three recent robberies and attempted robberies of banks in the area.

The woman attempted to rob a bank Friday, the FBI's Houston office said in a release, but "the teller did not immediately provide any cash" after being handed a threatening note. The woman apparently got nervous, took back the note and left, authorities said. However, she then entered another bank and robbed it.

Yeah, I read about that. I remember her talking about they are ready. Engineers who work in govt contract positions, R&D, military contracts etc., know their jobs ride with the political wind and economics. I can't tell you how many years we sat on pins and needles wondering if the job would be there, its a hell of a way to live. Job insecurity isn't fun, some of us are well schooled in it no matter how well educated, hard working and productive you are.

This is an interesting link this morning. Although some areas have canceled their tsunami warning, Hawaii remains on alert as do some other areas.

http://wcatwc.arh.noaa.gov/2010/02/27/725245/07/ttvu725245-07.jpg

this is Iris that big red blog in right is chiles quakes

IRIS Seismic Monitor

Has it occurred to anyone else that our planet seems...well...angry? This Chilean quake is a monster.

Off Florida, massive oil tanks menace U.S. refiners
| Reuters

Good read and interesting. Oh and can we haz higher gasoline and heating oil prices on lower demand and high inventories???? Supply demand my azzz.

Good read and interesting. Oh and can we haz higher gasoline and heating oil prices on lower demand and high inventories???? Supply demand my azzz.

I've heard some good arguments from smart people but I still fail to see how the price of gasoline is driven by supply and demand.

,rade kristina seems like it might be a little angry,but we always have quakes every day,always but not this big. then too you know what they say,"then it rains it pours" and that isnt only the motto for morton salt,it is the truth.

When you cram people on every square inch of land available, and nature does what nature does -- fires, floods, earthquakes, tornadoes, landslides, hurricanes, typhoons -- people are going to pay the price. But if mother nature is angry at us, it's not the least bit difficult to imagine why.

Hell of a way to treat your mother.

nanoo

that article is very interesting. We are always told that the US doesn't have enough refinery capacity. Seems like there is excess refinery capacity worldwide. And people will to buy and invest in refineries in the US.

That "prices are high because there aren't enough refineries" argument never made sense to me.

12th aw come on tptb will use any excuse,and the refineries one flys a lot better than say "its weather related" Smile

Comrade Kristina wrote:

This has to be a great sign that recovery is near...

CK, expect a lot more groups like these to pop up, working together or at cross-purposes. When times get tough, people with no money and not much left to lose discover their inner activist. It happened in the '30s, it'll happen again if things keep getting worse for the common man. Such social reform groups can become real power blocks outside the control of Washington. And there's nothing scarier to the elites.

The prices are high because the Vampire Squid from Hell wants them high and has bet on that result.

,rade kristina,wonder how they are betting on greece?

or cali, or us. the answer is where the money is....

Bob Dobbs, I posted it because it had a "thirties feel" to it. Have we reached Peak Screw You in the J6P class?

Hahahah gaby, I think we can safely assume they are holding some CDS bets on Greeces failure. After all, they set them up to fail.

Comrade Kristina wrote:

The Unemployed Now Have Their Own Union,

Not going to worry until they go on strike. I knew the French were screwed when it happened to them.

Comrade Kristina wrote:

I think we can safely assume they are holding some CDS bets on Greeces failure.

I bet they are also holding CDS of banks that have large holdings of Greek Debt.

The CFMA opened up the commodities markets to speculators in a major way. Its a pet peeve of mine. Read up about Brooksley Born and Hank Greenberger, they both left the CFTC in 1999 after its passage in congress. Traders with massive amounts of money to play in these market squeeze producers and supplier contracts. It is now a highly manipulated market benefiting large traders. This lovely piece of legislation is the path to trading derivative contracts and the path by which those 'dark pools' are created. Repealing this legislation should be front and center.

Just get on Youtube and you will find years of testimony regarding the CFMA to congress and the abuses it has produced by deep pocketed people. Jackasses in congress think we're not watching I guess. Recently, the CFTC increased margin requirements but of course, that has little affect for Merrill, Goldman, etc. who are playing heavily in these markets. Just in the first half of '08, just Goldman alone made billions on trades..just trading and of course making 'forecasts' for the ppb/oil. '08 is a perfect example of how manipulated these markets are. Worse than energy are the soft commodities which can and do affect prices of food worldwide. In developing nations, it meant starvation in 08, for the US and other nations, it meant rapid inflation in food prices.

The CFTC and commodities markets work very well for over 60 years until Uncle Phil got his grimy slimy hands into it. If one reads up on GD1, the policies and agencies created after the 'threats' were identified as contributors to GD1, the commodities market was considered one which deepened GD1 and increased the pain to Main Street during that period of time.

People who think our contemporary/sophisticated mechanisms for modeling, trading, etc. exempt us from lessons of history I think will soon find it isn't the case at all.

Comrade Kristina wrote:

Bob Dobbs, I posted it because it had a "thirties feel" to it. Have we reached Peak Screw You in the J6P class?

No. And that's why populist organizations are just getting off the ground. I actually think you need them to ensure real change in Washington. They're the "loose cannons" in the power structure that scare and pressure the political system into actually paying attention to the people at large.

The Seattle Times this AM is reporting that Rainier Pacific Bank failed because of a very bad bet on its purchase of CDO's. "After the market for such securities evaporated, accounting rules forced Rainier Pacific to write down their value. The portfolio of CDOs, originally valued at $108.8 million, was worth just $17.1 million at year's end." Business & Technology | Rainier Pacific Bank brought down by a big investment gone bad | Seattle Times Newspaper

So, why do we allow banks to purchase these assets without sufficient capital reserves and then bail them out?

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