Does this explain Comrade Kristina's good fortune?

I'm wondering that myself smlandlord. The loan mod guy couldn't explain it to me when I just spoke with him either.

Experts agree that free money is the best kind.

since Treasury increased the GSE portfolio limits in December...

To ∞, and beyond!!!

Can I get in on the deal by defaulting on loans to myself?

CR writes:
Freddie Mac to Buy Out Seriously Delinquent Loans

Taxpayers Forced to Enrich Irresponsible Banks and Borrowers

Since this is an expansion of Federal powers beyond those circumscribed by the highest laws of the land I know how I will vote when the plebiscite is presented before the people.

has anybody else heard this story?

"brand spanking new Airbus 340-600, the largest passenger airplane ever built, sits just outside its hangar in Toulouse , France without a single hour of airtime..
Enter the flight crew of Abu Dhabi Aircraft Technologies ( ADAT)
to conduct pre-delivery tests on the ground, such as engine run-ups prior to delivery to Etihad Airways in Abu Dhabi . The ADAT crew taxied the A340-600 to the run-up area.Then they took all Four engines to takeoff power with a virtually empty aircraft. Not having Read the run-up manuals,they had no clue just how light an empty A340-600 Really is..
The takeoff warning horn was blaring away in the cockpit because they had All 4 engines at full power. The aircraft computers thought they were trying to take off, but it had not been configured
properly (flaps/slats, etc..)Then one of the ADAT crew decided to pull the circuit breaker on the Ground Proximity Sensor to silence the alarm. This fools the aircraft into thinking it is in the air. The computers automatically released all the Brakes and set the aircraft rocketing forward. The ADAT crew had no idea that this is a safety feature so that pilots can't land with the brakes on. Not one member of the seven-man crew was smart enough to throttle back the engines from their max power setting, so the $200 million brand-new Aircraft crashed into a blast barrier, totaling it! The extent of injuries to the crew is unknown due to the news blackout in the major media in France and elsewhere.
Coverage of the story was deemed insulting

A French Airbus ........ $200 million dollars
Untrained Flight Crew... $300,000 Yearly Salary
Unread Operating Manual...... $300

AIRCRAFT MEETS RETAINING WALL -- WALL WINS"

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No link at the moment, but complex systems require greater attention that what happened here!

your 1 vote doesn't dent the millions of sheeple votes....

This is the 'least costly' way to deal with these from Freddie Macs perspective. This assumes Freddie Mac is solvent and a viable entity. In reality its only functioning on the government teat and in a real market the banks would be forced to take a cramdown on their garuntees or Freddie Mac would declare bankruptcy. So more bailout money to the banks hidden from view.

fudge_hend wrote:
Bailouts for everyone!
Capitalism will only work if we are allowed to bail.

Perhaps France is paying their pilots $20 grand a year as well?

Thanks silvertoes...my dad will get a kick out of this one...have to send it down the line.

fudge_hend wrote:

In reality its only functioning on the government teat

De facto money printing into the future.

Dawg might be right. Once this thing whipsaws, inflation might spike up big for a year or two.

I'm actually busy all day today. L8R.

Taxpayers to Buy Out Seriously Delinquent Loans via Freddie Mac

fixed

broward wrote:

Dawg might be right. Once this thing whipsaws, inflation might spike up big for a year or two.

I agree. Now if I could just call the timing...

FNMA and FHLMC buy-out delinquent loans on an on-going basis. The news here is that they have decided to shorten the delinquency term to 120 days, and to do it all at once.

This actually hurts holders of FHLMC MBS, such as banks, because the bonds are almost all trading several points over par, and the loans get bought out at par.

Fed policy- Its easier to grasp what they do when you understand their priorities :

  1. Profits for Goldman and JPMorgan
  2. Pain for Goldman banking competitors
  3. Keeping the squealing politicans quiet by paying them off with loose money and shovelfuls of new debt.
  4. Keeping the economy from hurting the wealth of the elite.
  5. Keeping unemployment high enough so regular citizens know their place and live in fear, but not so high that transfer payments for welfare and other social costs close the casino.

Too fun not to repeat...

"Fraud!" cried the maddened thousands, and echo answered fraud;
But one scornful look from Obama and the audience was awed.
They saw his face grow stern and cold, they saw his muscles strain,
And they knew that Obama wouldn't let the Unabankers win again.

The sneer is gone from Obama's lip, his teeth are clenched in fate;
He pounds with cruel rhetoric his preference upon the state.
And now the Unabankers hold the ball, and now he lets them go,
And now the air is shattered by the force of Obama's blow it.

Oh, somewhere in this favored land the sun is shining bright;
The band is playing somewhere, and somewhere hearts are light,
And somewhere men are laughing, and somewhere children shout;
But there is joy in Moneyville - mighty Obama has struck out.

Oh yeah right. Who would believe an undertrained crew of Arabs crashing an airplane. Where's your Tinfoil Hat?

sm_landlord wrote:
I agree. Now if I could just call the timing...
... "And I would've gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids..."

Its not easy being green seems to be low on gas today...

There is more than just one metaphor in that Airbus story....

Ciao
MS

Bailouts today, for tomorrow we get the Black Swan.

I have the star wars bad feeling about this moment going wrt to the middle east. But since, I get this at least once a year, no big deal.

After all, the Chinese wouldn't cut a deal with the Iranians for oil, now would they? And sell them nuclear technology?

Why not? It is becoming increasingly obvious the dollar is simply a placeholder wrt to wealth, something to be used as a momentary transition medium. For long term savings, it is increasingly obsolete.

Which means banks are essentially obsolete.

Nobody has picked up on who is holding the Freddie debt: Could it be the Federal Reserve?

If so, even more draining of liquidity by moving the chits around on the board.

The reality is the only measures of wealth that will transition from one currency regime to the next are the portable ones, interests in ongoing concerns, and land.

I was hoping we would manage to delay this reboot of the currency until I was dead, but another 35 years looks undoable.

Someday this war's gonna end...

We really should have nationalized the banks. No way should the creditors of FNM, FRE and all the banks be profiting so mightily on the backs of the majority.

The shifting of losses and profiteering is criminal.

Rob, I've thought the GSEs should be more aggressive in buying out delinquent loans (these are loans they are already guaranteeing). This is less expensive for the GSEs and the taxpayers - so I think this is good news.

best wishes

MS wrote:
There is more than just one metaphor in that Airbus story....
The economy comes with no instruction manual... Monetarism is a choose-your-own-adventure novel (till the money runs out)

"The computers automatically released all the Brakes and set the aircraft rocketing forward. The ADAT crew had no idea that this is a safety feature so that pilots can't land with the brakes on. Not one member of the seven-man crew was smart enough to throttle back the engines from their max power setting"

sm_landlord wrote:

Now if I could just call the timing...

Aye. There's the rub.

To sleep: perchance to dream: aye, there's the rub;
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come,
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
Must give us pause: there's the respect
That makes calamity of so long life;
For who would bear the whips and scorns of time,
The oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely,
The pangs of despised love, the law's delay,
The insolence of office, and the spurns
That patient merit of the unworthy takes,

This made me sad. IIRC the first time I said "aye, there's the rub" in context Tanta scratched behind my ears.

Bank makes bad loans.

Government credit policies allow GSEs to buy out bad loans by effective refi when property changes hands.

Government now holds new bad loan.

What, the mortgages went sour? That's a problem for the government guarantor of the GSE instruments.

Mission Accomplished -- losses made fully public, profits made fully private.

Just have your ducks in a row ready for inflation, and there's no need for timing...

ResistanceIsFeudal wrote:

"The computers automatically released all the Brakes and set the aircraft rocketing forward. The ADAT crew had no idea that this is a safety feature so that pilots can't land with the brakes on. Not one member of the seven-man crew was smart enough to throttle back the engines from their max power setting"

Sir Alan stole the handle,
And Bernanke won't stop going
No way to slow down.

Byz,

Wouldn't that be:

Mission Accompliced

Well my big adventure into a hard currency fund has not worked out so well...

Hmmm...I guess that's one way of explicitly extending the bailout dollars to Main Street.

CalculatedRisk wrote:

(these are loans they are already guaranteeing). This is less expensive for the GSEs and the taxpayers - so I think this is good news.

... but the GSEs are continuing with their policy to guarantee questionable loans. Which means, in the future they will buy out even more seriously delinquent loans to 'help' taxpayer.

nova: "Well my big adventure into a hard currency fund has not worked out so well..."
FXE/Euro: "I'm sorry, this has never happened before..."

Freddie and the markets are billing this is "flushing out" the delinquencies. Personally, I view it as more of a "making room for more" type of event.

"Well my big adventure into a hard currency fund has not worked out so well... "

Nova you were supposed to by the currency fund containing CDN, CNY and JPY not the one containing Lira, Drachma, Euro and Kroner.

So just to be clear, it's not that they're putting us on the hook for these delinquent mortgages, it's that we're ALREADY on the hook for 'em.

What exactly are you referring to? In glod we trust & Hi Ho Silver, Away! ? CHF?

Here Nova why don't you try on my Brown Pants

CalculatedRisk wrote:

Rob, I've thought the GSEs should be more aggressive in buying out delinquent loans (these are loans they are already guaranteeing). This is less expensive for the GSEs and the taxpayers - so I think this is good news.

I see your point but in a rare display of opposition in the face of superior intellect and skill, I strongly disagree. The result will be a "pulling forward" of bad loans. Not quite moral hazard but similar. Taking the bad loans in explicitly nd addressing them would be cheaper but that ignores adaptive behavior changes. $2T of bad loans subsumed will cause another $3t of previously off balance sheet or misreported loans to suddenly show up equally eligible.

The only good news is that we appear poised to finally be willing to exit the denial phase. Perhaps that is the source of my anger.

Lobbyist Ben Dover wrote:

Can I get in on the deal by defaulting on loans to myself?

ONLY if you also short them with CDS held by a zombie institution...

Personally, I view it as more of a "making room for more" type of event.

Moving debts from private to public ledgers, ostensibly so that private lending picks up. Have we heard that before?

Rob Dawg wrote:

we appear poised to finally be willing to exit the denial phase

I have no idea what your basis is for that. Is Dr. Paul leading 2012 polls?

Nova asked the brokerage to recommend a hard currency fund. They misheard him and recommended a hardly current fund.

no surprise, and no big deal

this is interesting, worth a watch, someone did some good math here.

Video Marketing and Mortgage News Designed for Mortgage and Real Estate Sales

What the heck? You mean it makes a difference what currency? It is MERKX

Citizen AllenM wrote:

After all, the Chinese wouldn't cut a deal with the Iranians for oil, now would they? And sell them nuclear technology?

If they did, what would the US do about it?

Odd. Should just be called the "Golden loonie" fund.

"The result will be a "pulling forward" of bad loans. Not quite moral hazard but similar. Taking the bad loans in explicitly nd addressing them would be cheaper but that ignores adaptive behavior changes. $2T of bad loans subsumed will cause another $3t of previously off balance sheet or misreported loans to suddenly show up equally eligible."

Exactly how I see this as well...and If this is good then it really depends on the perspective one views it with.

Ciao
MS

What's the end result of the world QE'ing up for money, no limit?

greenchutes wrote:

Rob Dawg wrote:
we appear poised to finally be willing to exit the denial phase
I have no idea what your basis is for that. Is Dr. Paul leading 2012 polls?

Worse. ABC polls show the Reps recapturing Congress.

Among registered voters in this ABC News/Washington Post poll, 48 percent say they'd support the Republican candidate in their congressional district if the midterm elections were today, 45 percent the Democrat. That's a rare level of GOP support in nearly three decades of polls.

And:

Disapproval of Congress, at 71 percent, matches its highest since 1994, when the GOP swept to control in a midterm rout of the Democrats. Americans by a 20-point margin say they're inclined to look around for someone new to support for Congress. And by a 13-point margin, 48 to 35 percent, Americans call themselves anti-incumbent rather than pro-incumbent – not quite the levels in 1994 or 2006 (when the Democrats regained control) but broad nonetheless.

Remember my clarion call to don't vote incumbent?

Nova, when I google MERXX I get a Greek guys flickr account.

Flickr: merxx

All currencies are doomed, they just don't know it yet.

"The decision to effect these purchases stems from the fact that the cost of guarantee payments to security holders, including advances of interest at the security coupon rate, exceeds the cost of holding the nonperforming loans in the company's mortgage-related investments portfolio as a result of the required adoption of new accounting standards and changing economics."

In other words, once again FASB gave a financial industry participant a pass.

poic,

Well, if it's Greek than it's safe. Everyone knows the Germans have their back.

The current global QE spree reminds me of the show Whammy. Everyone hoping for money instead of landing on the whammy sign and losing all their money.

Press Your Luck - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oxtail wrote:

Airbus A340-600 Ground Test Accident at Flightstory.net - Aviation Blog

That'll buff out.

Revolutionary Politics » Blog Archive » An Insider’s View of the Real Estate Train Wreck

The current volume of defaults is already alarming. And the volume of commercial real estate defaults is growing every month. That can only keep going for so long, and then you hit a breaking point, which I believe will come sometime in 2010. When you hit that breaking point, unless there’s some alternative in place, it’s going to be a very hideous picture for the bond market and the banking system.

The reason I say second quarter 2010 is a guess is that the Treasury Department, the Federal Reserve, and the FDIC can influence how fast the crisis unfolds. I think they can have an impact on the severity of the crisis as well – not making it less severe but making it more severe.

interview with Andy Miller

I think Wink Martindale is available, and younger than Greenie in his last term or two. Can we get him? I'm sure his take on the Depression is a bit more coherent than BB's.

poic,

Don't be hating on me because I am a financial winner with my beautiful glod

Yeah, they will save a little money, they are on the hook for a non-performing loan in either case, today they are essentially funding the loan at the note rate, on balance sheet they will be funding the loan at their funding costs, which is lower, that is the best way to look at it imho.

Help me understand; does Freddie have to have less capital after buying out a loan due to the accounting rules? Is that why it costs them less?

Edit: you already answered, thanks.

A few weeks ago Obama shared what he likes to read, and there were some thoughtful choices he mentioned like the New Yorker, but mostly he seemed to like to read sporting magazines from the gist of what I read.

Should we be surprised that he uses sporting metaphors?

Um, that is the point.

I am awaiting with interest Tomorrow when the Iranians have promised to do something mean to us.

Of course, we never did reopen our embassy, which right now looks like a good idea.

I think our biggest problem is that tomorrow will be another day of paralysis for the federal government to react to whatever happens in the rest of the world.

I also think the EU should let Greece default and remain in the EU. Just treat them like any other bankrupt. Cash on the barrelhead.

That would be hilarious. The greeks are hoping for a nice soft bailout, maybe a quick bankruptcy would be kinder to allow them to change their ways to conform to the German style financial system they bought into.

Someday this war's gonna end...

JD<
Is Seriously any relation to you?

nova, you say winner I say weiner Cool

How many of these will be immediately modified after purchase? Could these be loans that were not eligible for HAMP refi or mod prior?

silvertoes two wrote:

Then one of the ADAT crew decided to pull the circuit breaker on the Ground Proximity Sensor to silence the alarm.

Darwin Award 2010. Nominations and votes closed. There's lots of reasons to override warning/safety systems but NOT in a pre-acceptance ground test. There is only one response to this pre-emergency condition; shut down, file report, tell Airbus to fix it.

1:06pTreasurys extend losses after 10-yr auction

1:05pIndirect bidders buy 33.2% of 10-yr auction

1:04pBidders offer $2.67 for each $1 of 10-yr debt sold

1:04pTreasury sells $25 bln in 10-year notes at 3.692%

nova wrote:

Well, if it's Greek than it's safe. Everyone knows the Germans have their back.

oh that is wrong on so many levels... bwaahahahahaha! thanks nova

It costs them less because they are funding each loan today at the mortgage note rate, on balance sheet they will be able to fund it at their funding costs, which are lower.

The accounting rule allows them to hold the delinquent loans at par. LMAO!!!

Deutsche Sees New Year’s Surge of Fannie, Freddie Buyouts « HousingWire

bank stocks catching fire.....

Ciao
MS

It looks like Krugman has upchucked the roast beef.

poic wrote:

Early signs of a 'double dip' in housing prices - MarketWatch

The offer we made yesterday certainly was aligned with that message - the question in my mind is will the response be a counter or simply "hell, no!"

I haven't been paying attention to Iran...took a quick look and am deeply disturbed. Now I know what you meant re Star Wars bad feeling. Shock

If you possesed knowledge of what the Iranians plan to do - how would you use it to manipulate todays market? Because the squid surely knows. Shirley told them.

In other words, Dec 31, 2009, a delinquent loan has to be marked down, usually to 60cent on the dollar.

Jan 1, 2010, that delinquent loan can be held at 100cents on the dollar.

So economically the GSEs are better off buying out delinquent loans, that is as true today as it was this time last year.

But now they can obfuscate their actual economic condition through generous GAAP rules.

Juvenal Delinquent wrote:

It looks like Krugman has upchucked the roast beef.

The remora has reconsidered the ethics of the relationship and detached. Still a remora.

Unlimited support means government owned. When is this going on the budget balance sheet? Transparency and all that...How can this not be counted against the debt ceiling and impact the treasury rates?

Wouldn't this money be better spent on creating jobs programs or infrastructure investment? Just issue a new currency already FFS and get it over with instead of the incremental destruction. The event horizon was crossed a while ago and now we are getting to experience where the blackhole leads. The gravitational forces are a bitch.

If you possesed knowledge of waht the Iranians plan to do - how would you use it to manipulate todays market? Because the squid surely knows. Shirley told them.

  • Vampire Squid from Hell surely you must be kidding? I'm not kidding, and don't call me shirley! Laughing out loud

Really, I'm thinking it will be a nice shot to go long on oil, which I'm considering with UCO, an ETF fund 2x long. I think the Vampire Squid from Hell has this one figured out and can make some serious money on that trade. IMO!

energyecon wrote:

ONLY if you also short them with CDS held by a zombie institution...

They are TBTF and I am to small to play!

" Rob, I've thought the GSEs should be more aggressive in buying out delinquent loans (these are loans they are already guaranteeing). This is less expensive for the GSEs and the taxpayers - so I think this is good news.

best wishes "

This is blatantly ridiculous. The taxpayers have no business supporting the GSEs in the first place. Who cares if it is the least costly option? There should never have been any taxpayer involvement in Fannie & Freddie, nor should there have been any bailout of the two. You're statement is operating under the assumption that this is necessary. It is not. The sooner this whole ponzi scheme collapses the better.

Rob Dawg wrote:

circumscribed by the highest laws of the land I know how I will vote when the plebiscite is presented before the people.

It is sad because that still feels like micturition in the resultant force of atmospheric pressure gradients

Why would the Iranians need to build a bomb, when their buddy Lil' Kim had some ready-made?

The bigger point being, that Israel has a few dozen already, what does it matter if Iran has a few?

Wall Street bonuses over the past decade were earned in the same way my kids are tired from all the snow they DIDN'T shovel today!

Gavshire Hathaway wrote:

The sooner this whole ponzi scheme collapses the better.

Patience, Gavhopper.

The great thing about winning a Nobel Prize is you get a barbarous starter-kit as a token of their esteem.

Also, Iran's "friends" know because they sold them what was needed. They probably could make more money trading on the knowledge than the sale.

nova, I don't think the squid has much traction in a couple of important places, like the Central Committee of the PRC, the DPK, or what passes for the braintrust of Iran.

I don't think the Iranians are quite sure of what they plan to do. Maybe an emp attack on Israel to leave them defenseless?

They have spouted a lot of trash, and if they want to be taken seriously, they need to deliver. That is what concerns me.
Dictatorships have a habit of reaching deep and occaisionally lobbing a succesful long bomb.

Putin comes to mind. Look at how masterfully he dismantled Georgia when they attacked. They stepped right into his masterplan.

Have we stepped into somebody else's?

That is the black swan. In retrospect it will be obvious, but right now, it is concealed in a blizzard of too much information.
We are drowning in data, much of it extraneous.

Someday this war's gonna end...

Who does Airbus buy their gas pedals from?

Citizen AllenM wrote:

Look at how masterfully he dismantled Georgia when they attacked. They stepped right into his masterplan.

He had Saakashvili and McCain on the other side of that one. I look like Bobby Fischer when playing chess against your average 6-year-old.

citizen,
I think your reaching with this...

that guy has been spitting things out of his ass for the last couple years....it still seems he is wearing his underwear....which means he is full of sh!t

The TBT knuckleheads are having quite a day or two. Good for them.

Blackwater, er Xe was supposed to come to the rescue of Georgia, but my guess is they were in Atlanta ready to go, when push met shove.

looking for :bear_beat_down: icon

"The sooner this whole ponzi scheme collapses the better. "

I actually think ridiculous accounting machinations like this will only bring about the demise of our system, the further disconnected from reality the accounting becomes the more malinvestment occurs, and the sooner the ultimate crash.

I don't think the Iranians are quite sure of what they plan to do.

Gold and silver prices indicate it will be a massive nohingburger.

It may be paranoia, but essentially that little voice in the back of your head may be waaaay crazy. But sometimes it is right.

I hope that nothing happens while DC is snowed under and Europe is watching PIGS. The Chinese stuff seems super strange lately.

Just a lot of coincidinks. Most likely nothing, but Hu knows?

All I know is the Iranian leaderships looks very weak with all the promises and nothing delivered. That kind of desperation makes for interesting home run attempts. That and the other aligned powers have turned very snarky- look at how Damascus has turned on a dime again.

I hope I am too paranoid. Because if I am not, well, buy some big Defense stocks, TIE, ATI, and RTI. Because they will make money.

Nothing like a real crisis to obviate housing;-}

Someday this war's gonna end...

nap time is the best time

poic wrote:

looking for :bear_beat_down: icon

Fat Cat

If this is a bear beatdown Its not easy being green should probably go ahead and throw in the gloves...

10 year note suction results announced....

No that's not a typo either.

Ciao
MS

From CR's post.

"The Federal Reserve is considering the utility, during the transition to a more normal policy configuration, of communicating the stance of policy in terms of another operating target, such as an alternative short-term interest rate....The Fed might use an alternative short term interest rate - such as interest rate paid on reserves - to communicate policy."

My good friends, If the head bankers intend to stimulate this means to jump start lending. Raising interest rates on reserves won't do it. Ending interest on reserves would help some. Negative interest rates on Fed reserves would do the trick. Add in an asset backed currency and you have the Hertzian Economic Superbubble Model.

Think just a second what happens if cash has a shelf life. The money multiplier explodes and any marginal endeavor with a barely positive rate of return gets funded because anything is better that a guaranteed loss. Assets will increase in value because time decay currency will be converted to real things. Since the dollar is backed by assets it too will rise. Once this dollar backing becomes more explicit more people will understand the implications.

One little trick is left and then the banking system changes forever.

Doc Holiday wrote:

Thread Music

we prefer loosers

Comrade Kristina wrote:

If this is a bear beatdown Its not easy being green should probably go ahead and throw in the gloves...

That has been one long slog from 9970 to 10070 today on very light volume. No one is sticking their neck out. Again.

...The money multiplier explodes and any marginal endeavor with a barely positive rate of return gets funded because anything is better that a guaranteed loss.... Since the dollar is backed by assets it too will rise...

Perpetual motion.

Expect the DJIA to stay around 10k, as the maim-stream-media makes hay by calling it "The Battle for 10,000" or some other tomfoolery.

otishertz wrote:

My good friends, If the head bankers intend to stimulate this means to jump start lending. Raising interest rates on reserves won't do it. Ending interest on reserves would help some. Negative interest rates on Fed reserves would do the trick. Add in an asset backed currency and you have the Hertzian Economic Superbubble Model.

Methinks TPTB have finally realized that more debt may not really be the answer to too much debt.

The only way lending to tthe general economy will resume is via the disintermediation of the banks. Thus the paradox. As long as helping the banks is the goal then more and more rational lending won't be the mechanism.

Barry needs to choose soon. I'm not hopeful.

great observation..makes sense...turn a negative into a positive....

Put your Tinfoil Hat hat on... conspiracy sites talking about Police Chiefs around the country resigning today. It has been suggested a secret memo has been sent out notifying the police departments of their pending federalization. I checked, my police chief is still at the donut shop drinking coffee, doesn't look like he is resigning anytime soon. I'm quite sure there are several police departments who want to be federalized, I mean if the banks are getting bailed out, why not?

This might be interesting...
SEC didn't look into red flags going back to 1999 until 2005...which just doesn't make sense...
CNBC will have an 'expose' tonight on the Allen Stanford story...

I mention UCO fund, 2x crude, and at about the same time crude jumps about $2 a barrell in the last 30 minutes! Crazy! WTF is going on?

Citizen AllenM wrote:

It may be paranoia, but essentially that little voice in the back of your head may be waaaay crazy. But sometimes it is right.

For tomorrow it appears that the market has priced nothing of consequence happening in Iran, and has priced in some sort of support agreement for Greece coming out of the EU. So if everything unfolds as is expected we should be the recipients of a pleasant double-digit up day tomorrow. But if Iran actually has something interesting to say/show, or if the EU agreement hits a speedbump, tomorrow could get very interesting.

I'm putting my bets on interesting, just for fun.

ghost -- I agree. It should be clear to everyone on this board that our political and economic system is broken beyond repair. In fact it is so bad that they are no longer actively trying to fix it, and are instead trying to loot whatever limited wealth remains before our government repudiates all of its obligations. Social security, medicare, debt, pensions, retirement assets, you name it: all up in smoke.

An unconstitutional banking system, corrupt politicians, manipulation of currency and financial markets, control of the media (and concerted propaganda efforts), a military industrial complex that requires constant wars. An economic system that requires continuous expansion of the monetary supply to prevent contraction, eroding the savings of the responsible via inflation.

This rabbit hole goes very deep indeed.

Vonbek,
I think the problem for some police agencies is that local budgets can't support them anymore...Mish had some stuff on this...

So I guess I should stop paying my mortgage.

As much as I despise the coppers in general, no thin blue line and all hell breaks loose.

Gavshire,
You never sugarcoat it!

Juvenal Delinquent wrote:

As much as I despise the coppers in general, no thin blue line and all hell breaks loose.

That is the one line I sincerely hope is never crossed, because there's no going back.

Juvenal,
You forget many folks have 'home protection'...

My wife talked me down from heading for the hills last night...don't you go getting me started again. Wink

Rob Dawg wrote:

Barry needs to choose soon. I'm not hopeful.

YouTube - Ghostbusters Stay Puft Man 

What you can't be judge and jury and executioner? Multitasking at its finest or worst...can't always tell you know...

Probably posted here already ( am busy ) but worth repeating

I’m with Simon Johnson here: how is it possible, at this late date, for Obama to be this clueless?
Clueless - Paul Krugman Blog - NYTimes.com

kind of looks like the mortgage piggie thats building a left shoulder on the daily..

otis,
Didn't Japan have negative interest rates?

Wow, even the Canadian bankster are blackmailing their government. I didn't know that happened up there.

Ottawa warned against altering mortgage rules - The Globe and Mail

tg wrote:

we prefer loosers

Remember all those nice financial products like ELKS, LYONS, etc? What about LOSERS (Liquid Offset Secure Equity Reserve Stocks)?

An Insider’s View of the Real Estate Train Wreck - Casey Research

For all intents and purposes, the United States home mortgage market has been nationalized without anybody noticing. Last September, reportedly over 95% of all new loans for single-family homes in the U.S. were made with federal assistance, either through Fannie Mae and the implied guarantee, or Freddie Mac, or through the FHA.

The road to Mad Max goes right by your front door if we turn into an ad hoc vigilante state.

So why couldn't all the Federal workers in DC help with snow removal?
Talk about a "shovel ready" project!

Vonbek777 wrote:

Put your Tinfoil Hat hat on... conspiracy sites talking about Police Chiefs around the country resigning today.

My Police Chief is still in place. I'll let you know if that changes. I am in a position to know within hours of any such event.

creditcriminalslovetarp wrote:

kind of looks like the mortgage piggie thats building a left shoulder on the daily..

The Hunchpig of Notre Swine.

Sure this wasn't manufactured by Toyota?

"Juvenal,
You forget many folks have 'home protection'... "

Takes a long time for the person answering the phone to get to your house from India.

Wonder if anyone sat in their ivory tower watching Rome burn, humming where have all the constables gone...

OK, Whose idea of funny was to name a currency "eeewwww?"

"But no. If the Bloomberg story is to be believed, Obama thinks his key to electoral success is to trumpet “the influence corporate leaders have had on his economic policies.”

We’re doomed."

You are right, strongest words to date from the Krug man.

Doesn't this just save money in the short term, and kicks the can further down the road?

The only other reason I can think of to pay interest on bailout dollars held in reserve by banks at the Fed is to keep them there. An alternate explanation is that the banks need the cash on hand to cover demand deposits to mitigate societal meltdown resultant of government insolvency. They need to at least have enough cash on hand to slowly dole out $600 a day through ATMs.

I know this is off-topic, but I don't understand how Fannie can buy shit -- I thought they were sort of involved in a process of being in conservatorship and a little low on dough -- so how are they able to substitute IOUS and debt into converted purchasing power?

Juvenal,
You forgot about the 'militarization' exec order...to maintain order.

SNAFU wrote:

"We’re doomed."
You are right, strongest words to date from the Krug man.

Of course if you don't like Krug's positions then this is a Green Shoots

creditcriminalslovetarp wrote:

10 year above 3.7% ......

Wait a few months when that post looks dyslexic.

I hate waiting....but I'll just go to Golden gate park and stand downwind of the burners....should ease the pain....

Track the sources, and please skip the BS internet chain e-mails. Your racism is showing.

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