With every passing financial foible, a little bit more moral hazard goes away.

Fed posts record profit of $46.1B for last year - Yahoo! Finance

WTF!?

Huh? How can the Fed post a "profit"? They print money. I could post a profit doing that too.

pretty simple

KB Home said Tuesday it turned a profit in its fiscal fourth quarter, the first time since early 2007, as the homebuilder benefited from a new tax rule that allowed it to offset past losses.

The company earned $100.7 million, or $1.31 a share, in the three months ended Nov. 30. That included a tax gain of $191.7 million.

note that when one-time events increase profit, they are included in the headline numbers, but when they detract from profits, well...

ghostfaceinvestah wrote:

Huh? How can the Fed post a "profit"? They print money.

DOH! Didn't think of that. I guess that's because I can't do the same, though I have been eying one of these new Hi-Res printers
Just jokin', of course-

This past Friday, I went to take a test for a county position. 50 people were there. They had three testing sessions, so a fair estimate would be 150 people for 3/4 time position. I overheard someone mention that 1500 people had applied for one manufacturing position at a local company. November did seem weak when I was looking, but things seem to have opened up a little bit since then.

Just keeping up with all of these carefully orchestrated lies, is quite taxing.

The whole shooting match is rigged! That is the theme keep playing in my head whenever I think of putting money in the market. They changed the tax law before WFC acquired Wachovia and again recently to help the builders like KB. Rigged ponzi thru and thru and the O administration is vigorously behind it. I will be damned if I don't vote against wh first chance I get.
/rant off

poor Sheila...I'll give her points for creativity.

FDIC Weighs Linking Executive Pay, Bank Risks, Deposit Premiums - Bloomberg.com

SNAFU wrote:

They changed the tax law before WFC

I believe the WFC change was done under Henry Paulson, Obama's first Treasury Secretary.

Juvenal Delinquent wrote:

In defense of the Fed,

True but the more money they create means more Fed debt they buy which is a burden on taxpayers but if they do not buy more debt the taxpayers have no money

Free Banking versus Large-scale Credit Expansion

Mises Daily: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 by Ludwig von Mises

[This article is excerpted from chapter 17 of Human Action: The Scholar's Edition and is read by Jeff Riggenbach.]
Observations on the Discussions Concerning Free Banking

The Banking School taught that an overissuance of banknotes is impossible if the bank limits its business to the granting of short-term loans. When the loan is paid back at maturity, the banknotes return to the bank and thus disappear from the market. However, this happens only if the bank restricts the amount of credits granted. (But even then it would not undo the effects of its previous credit expansion. It would merely add to it the effects of a later credit contraction.) The regular course of affairs is that the bank replaces the bills expired and paid back by discounting new bills of exchange. Then to the amount of banknotes withdrawn from the market by the repayment of the earlier loan there corresponds an amount of newly issued banknotes.

The concatenation which sets a limit to credit expansion under a system of free banking works in a different way. It has no reference whatever to the process which this so-called Principle of Fullarton has in mind. It is brought about by the fact that credit expansion in itself does not expand a bank's clientele, viz., the number of people who assign to the demand-claims against this bank the character of money-substitutes. Since the overissuance of fiduciary media on the part of one bank, as has been shown above, increases the amount to be paid by the expanding bank's clients to other people, it increases concomitantly the demand for the redemption of its money-substitutes. It thus forces the expanding bank back to a restraint. (More)

@Juvenal Delinquent (profile) wrote (in reply to...) on Tue, 1/12/2010 - 8:30 am
Just keeping up with all of these carefully orchestrated lies, is quite taxing.

And that's for people here on CR who are quite informed.
Imagine how hard or next to impossible it is for J6P who is trying to scratch out a living.

The fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that’s being jammed up their ass everyday, because the owners of this country know the truth. It’s called the American Dream, cause you have to be asleep to believe it - George Carlin

I love this quite....can you tell

Bankers 2008: If you don't give us money, there could be Martial Law

Bankers 2010: American Bankers Association CEO: If Obama Imposes Fee, Banks Will Cut Lending

http://libertarianpapers.org/articles/2009/lp-1-40.pdf

Warning: PeeDeeEff

Juvenal Delinquent wrote:

Bankers 2010: American Bankers Association CEO: If Obama Imposes Fee, Banks Will Cut Lending

I may be willing to take the risk...

The truth fairy is all too real.

km4, people are tightening their belts...they are aware that something has changed. Everyone right now is going through some state of denial, even those here on CR...why I mentioned hammer and nails... At the end of the day the question is which would you rather be at this point...which is what the French asked once upon a time, and what the Germans asked once upon a time too. My crystal ball doesn't tell me when the breaking point is...but around here cable is being shut off in record numbers....so the masses aren't being entertained 24/7 quite as much. Interesting times. Not sure I was ready for another round of character building quite yet.

working at the pawn counter in one of my stores we had 37 apply yesterday alone

km4 wrote:

will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that’s being jammed up their ass everyday,

I can tell, you love this quote! I do wince a bit every time you repeat that phrase, much like when I cross my legs Christmas time when the Nutcracker comes on the tele...year afer year after year.

Vonbek777 wrote:

Not sure I was ready for another round of character building quite yet.

um, I'm too old for it now. I may need to channel Mrs. Lovette.

Vonbeck777 writes: ...around here cable is being shut off in record numbers...

Verrry interesting. | would love to know where is "here", and something quantitative about the record numbers.

Correction: BLS "Near Record Low Job Opening for US Citizens in November. Near Record Growth in Offshoring and Outsourcing US Jobs On Target."

Went out to lunch yesterday with the guy that put $150k down on a $300k house, and is now struggling to make payments on his home worth $200k, tops.

He glumly mentioned they stopped paying for cable tv, last month.

The technological tethers are going away~

thanks for link agent 510

mock turtle wrote:

how can there be more job hires, purple line, than job openings, yellow line?

Once someone is hired, the job opening goes away?

tg wrote:

thanks for link agent 510

It was obviously a libertarian paper. No one MADE you click the link.

Anybody else thinking about becoming Amish? Exception in the health care bill, and I think their communities will probably be okay if the power grid goes off line...well until the roving hordes of vegetable thieves show up....hmm....the no violence code...can they hire protection? Might need to start a new company, the APS....Amish Protection Service...we protect your garden from all pests! Non-lethal cost extra.

ghostfaceinvestah wrote:

well, so far, other than free money from taxpayers, the early returns on earnings have been less than stellar. Can't wait for the financials, when they can't mark up their fixed income trading inventory, it will be interesting to see how they made money.

Is business at Tiffany's a "leading indicator" of their performance?

Vonbek777 wrote:

but around here cable is being shut off in record numbers.

I never could bring myself to pay for infinite mindless teevee with commercials ad nauseam.

thanks cinco-x

so the yellow line represents unfilled positions...

job vacancies, that businesses are actively looking to fill, but thus far been unable to get qualified candidate?

No numbers, just talk with an AT&T guy. Here is the greater DFW area. He said lots of people are choosing cell phones over cable. Have to cut out one.

mock turtle wrote:

thanks cinco-x
so the yellow line represents unfilled positions...

Ummm....that was a question more than a statement. Maybe CR will explain for sure-

mock turtle wrote:

unfilled positions...job vacancies, that businesses are actively looking to fill, but thus far been unable to get qualified candidate?

Structural unemployment is a big problem, and likely to get bigger.

I'm not down with dogma, so my thinking is more along the line of a modern utopia of sorts.

The various utopias of the 19th-early 20th century, were simply too hard to pull off, but I think they are quite doable now.

Any one want to help me put in a new subfloor?

Nanoo-Nanoo wrote:

J6P low hanging fruit thats getting smaller and smaller

Poor visuals... ack!

Vonbek777 wrote:

My wife hates jewelry. Doesn't wear any, we even stopped wearing our wedding rings six years ago. Bought a little heart shaped box, keep it on the mantle with our rings... I can't stand the stuff either. She hates purses and shoes too!

But does she like football and action movies?

ghostfaceinvestah wrote:

when they can't mark up their fixed income trading inventory

Why can't they?

Yes Cinco, we took the personality tests... and the both of us were made for each other and definitely weird by herd standards. She is a Giants fan, thinks Eli is very cute. Our last date movie was Watchmen.

edit... we don't get to go to very many movies anymore with the youngsters... but our next movie out (her choice), will be Solomon Kane. But I like Jane Austin, so it all balances out!

Jewish Russian Telegraph: Desperate Coackley Uses Nazi Imagery in a Negative Ad

The Politics of personal destruction? I thought it was the Repub's that did that?!

Dylan Ratigan for secretary of treasury.

He was on The Today show this morning discussing banker's bonuses. Meredith Viera led with the tired 'if you don't pay the talent they will leave arguement'. Ratigan countered it was the position that was making the money and not the person. Said having literally free access to the federal reserve and treasury department all but guaranteed huge profits.

On Geithner - he has to decide if he's for the american people or the bankers.

Vonbek777

i hear ya

my wife's and my 3rd date was hiking and camping across the adirondack mountains

since then weve hiked in the colorado and canadian, rockies, and washington and oregon cascades

she doesnt like jewelry or expensive clothes (but insists on driving an expensive car)

our idea of fun and romance is watching the sun go down while drinking rum from a high ridge in the cascade mountains

and then keeping the wild life in the woods awake by making noise playing in the tent

We are getting ready to start some family camping trips. Waiting for our youngest to get a little older. Our first date, we climbed one of the small hills out at Ft. Irwin (near Barstow), watched the B2s flyover like giant bats in the moonlight.

Oh yeah, the American ream...

1 currency now -yogi wrote:

the American ream...

brilliant!

Juvenal Delinquent wrote:

Make a decision on your 401k, yet?

Sorry to say, I am dragging my feet. I blinked when staring the penalty and tax hit in eyes. I want to see what the details of the R-bond plan turn out to be. I know I may end up with a fist full of Bolivars.

It only took about a year to make up for the tax hit, when we pulled the trigger.

14 years to wait for a tax-break, might as well be an eternity.

you're right Seb. 824,000 who can no longer afford to buy your product is great news!!

Vonbek777 wrote:

Anybody else thinking about becoming Amish?

Not all it's cracked up to be. Not just like moving to a different country, but a different country where everybody's been marrying their second- and third- cousins for 200 years.

If we're talking doom survival for entertainment value, hooking up with a tight religion-based society isn't the worst idea. You just have to buy in and give up a lot of things. There are those that are less limit-bound, like Mennonites and Dunkerds, other old Anabaptist sects. Or you can just go Mormon and move to SLC. Utah's never going down. Church wouldn't allow it.

No, just a typo a while ago. But it fits (painfully).

Vonbek777 wrote:

Our first date, we climbed one of the small hills out at Ft. Irwin (near Barstow), watched the B2s flyover like giant bats in the moonlight.

I'd love to see that image in a made-for-TV romance flick on the Lifetime Channel.

Mr Slippery wrote (in reply to...) on Tue, 1/12/2010 - 9:28 am

The game is not over, but I honestly don't know what I'm going to do, yet.

maybe...but i have a feeling

its all over..but the cryin

Did a wiki on Ratigan, very interesting if true.

Yipes...gaby.

nanno yep!!!
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BREAKING NEWS: Hazmat Leak At Morehead City Port

Bob,
I was just trying to be funny...

I was raised Southern Baptist, and haven't gotten over it yet... no way in hell I can conform to anyone's control or expectations except my own. Too much mountain man in me. Ornery is the word.
However, for some strange reason I collect Mormon friends. Guess it is because I am nonjudgmental, but all through school and even now, I have had Mormons just flock to me for some reason. I am afraid to visit Utah.

couple of observations-

the number of people quitting has increased in the last several months. It could either be people taking early retirement or perhaps people are optimistic about finding jobs> if the latter it would be a bullish signal.

Using historic co-relations between initial claims and employment creation might prove to be a mistake. The decline in initial claims measures the level of layoffs. Layoffs appear to have returned to historic average level despite which initial claims (even at the lower levels) are still substantially higher than their historic average. This would suggest that people who are currently being laid off are not finding jobs as quickly as they have in the past. (supported by the 26 week or more unemployment level ). What that suggests is that the job creation mechanism has broken down and that even if initial claims revert to their historic average it may not result n the same level of job creation as the past. The obvious conclusion is that the BLS Birth /Death model is seriously off the mark this time around and that the household survey is perhaps a better measure of employment.

everybody's been marrying their second- and third- cousins for 200 years.

HomeGnome wrote:

everybody's been marrying their second- and third- cousins for 200 years.

---The South will rise again!

This happens all over in the country; Maine, Central MA, rural AL I know for sure. Undoubtedly rural NY. PA, and elsewhere. Once you get past first cousins, I doubt it's any big deal.

yagij wrote:

Don't knock it. It worked for humanity for thousands of years. It isn't like the farmer in Egypt had the choice of marrying a fair lady from the British Isles or the southern tip of Korea...

Hell, there's 3 main families in Korea; the Parks, the Lees, and one other that I can't remember. Talk about a shallow gene pool.

Anybody have a use for this:
http://usgovernmentspending.com/downchart_gs.php?year=1950_2010&view=1&expand=&units=p&fy=fy10&chart=F0-total&bar=0&stack=1&size=s&title=&state=US&color=c&local=s

Hell, there's 3 main families in Korea; the Parks, the Lees, and one other that I can't remember. Talk about a shallow gene pool.

I am having visions of the Movie " The hills have eyes "

CINCO-X
KIMS

gabyjan wrote:

CINCO-X
KIMS

Right! I never can remember the last one

banks-brace-for-bonus-fury: Personal Finance News from Yahoo! Finance

Cinco-X wrote:

Huh!? Most herd animals do it. They're not prohibited by morals or laws.

I guess I just made too clear my cityboy background. Hoocoodanode?

11:47am

Treasury sells one-month bills at 0%

JimPortlandOR wrote:

I'm not advocating this, but it sure would be interesting to require DNA tests at birth and compare results with the suppposed parents.

You are just eggin' to bring down the institution of marriage even further than it already is, eh? I'd advise any male primary breadwinner to DNA test the children. If something happens to your marriage, then you are looking forward to 18 years of child support, and if the baby isn't yours, you might want to know it before you make that kind of commitment.
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My vision of the world is horribly warped, but it is for good reason.

HomeGnome wrote:

Treasury sells one-month bills at 0%

That there's a market for a zero-percent interest gain for Treasuries sure says a lot about our eCONomy.

JimPortlandOR wrote:

but it sure would be interesting to require DNA tests at birth and compare results with the suppposed parents.

I believe that there is a study out there and if memory serves me right it was about 20% of births. I think they have also done studies on birds and animals that were thought to be monogamous and found that there was rampant cheating. In a book "Red Queen" which deals with evolutionary biology there is a perfectly sensible reason for it. The male with the best genes - strongest, healthiest etc may not in fact be the best provider. Therefore the best evolutionary strategy for the female is to get the best genes but make the the stay at home male think it is his. The best evolutionary strategy for the male is to impregnate as many females as possible and get other males to think the offspring are theirs. But of course the risk from the males perspective is that while you are out doing that somebody might be doing it to you.

Leopold the Hogmouth, was my favorite Habsburg.

Kings & Queens normally appeared on European coinage for a long time, and their likeness was often cleaned up, but poor Leopold's likeness couldn't be fixed, thanks to so much inbreeding.

http://69.55.175.34/bswpg/images8/ost670.jpg

yagij wrote:

You are just eggin' to bring down the institution of marriage even further than it already is, eh? I'd advise any male primary breadwinner to DNA test the children. If something happens to your marriage, then you are looking forward to 18 years of child support, and if the baby isn't yours, you might want to know it before you make that kind of commitment to it.

Some courts don't care whether it's yours or not. Their interest is in the welfare of the child, and if you're married at the time between conception and birth and you're the male, boy are you screwed-

crazyv wrote:

The best evolutionary strategy for the male is to impregnate as many females as possible and get other males to think the offspring are theirs. But of course the risk from the males perspective is that while you are out doing that somebody might be doing it to you.

Sing it Aretha: "Who's zooming who"?

yagij quoted:

"I wouldn't have any idea how to milk a bull ".

Bow-chicka-bow-wow!

I should'a gone with my first instinct and not posted that
+1

and BTW, that was a quote of what I overhead, not something I actually said!

Cinco-X wrote:

Their interest is in the welfare of the child, and if you're married at the time between conception and birth and you're the male, boy are you screwed-

That isn't the case in my jurisdiction (Thank the gods), but until you sign that birth certificate, it is all up for debate. If someone you had a one-night fling said it was yours, you better get a test, but if your wife is pregnant, then you need to be much more covert and/or tasteful about broaching the subject.
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Again once you are divorced, you are mostly screwed, but if you are being hit for child support, you better know what is up before the Court issues its order.

About 10 years ago, we were taking flying lessons @ Hawthorne airport in the City of Angles, and it's a pretty hanky area, and there was a yellow billboard on Hawthorne Blvd, with black lettering, that proclaimed:

"Who Be The Daddy?"

"1-800 DNA TEST"

We thought it was a joke at first.

mock turtle wrote:

my guess is that the living standard of the average american will be less than 3/4 of what it was during the last two decades

isn't that function of how you measure living standards? clearly if it is simply the amount of "stuff" that we purchase that I suspect is probably true. Better if it is based on overall happiness perhaps it might not be the case. Presumably if there is a decline in wages there is point at which it doesn't make sense for both parents to work- the marginal benefit is just not worth it. If one parent stays home and looks after the children is that a "lower standard of living".

Cinco-X wrote:

This happens all over in the country; Maine, Central MA, rural AL I know for sure. Undoubtedly rural NY. PA, and elsewhere. Once you get past first cousins, I doubt it's any big deal.

It is for the Amish, partly because the entire U.S. population is descended from a very small gene pool (I didn't realize how small):

"Amish populations have higher incidences of particular genetic disorders, including dwarfism (Ellis-van Creveld syndrome),[60] various metabolic disorders,[61] and unusual distribution of blood-types.[62] Amish represent a collection of different demes or genetically-closed communities.[63] Since almost all Amish descend from about 200 18th century founders, genetic disorders from inbreeding exist in more isolated districts (an example of the founder effect). Some of these disorders are quite rare, or unique, and are serious enough to increase the mortality rate among Amish children. The majority of Amish accept these as "Gottes Wille" (God's will); they reject use of preventive genetic tests prior to marriage and genetic testing of unborn children to discover genetic disorder. Amish are willing to participate in studies of genetic diseases. Their extensive family histories are useful to researchers investigating diseases such as Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, and macular degeneration."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish

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HomeGnome wrote:

Put me on your list, Sebastian.

Me too, please-

Concern over PETN Closes N.C. Port - CBS News

The Amish aren't the Amish anymore. You all have watched "Witness" once too often. The teenage Amish light up the buggies with psychedelic lights. Ma, Pa, and kids eat dorritos and wash it down with pepsi. Pa has electricity in the workshop, (yes I've seen the power lines) some buy vans and hire "others" to drive them around. They leave farming implements to rust in the fields. Unfortunately, they don't go to hair cuttery as the kids have lopsided haircuts on lopsided heads. But hey, it fits their genetic makeup of intermarrying; FLK, funny looking kids syndrome. Lack of education, intermarrying, and male dominated religion are the 3 staples of the Amish and farmland gubermint subsidized.

My wife and I have had several conversations about marriage. First of all, the playing field has never been level. You study the history of marriage...and how it relates to property and almost all girls names are variations of pure or sheep...and the concept of traditional marriage is doomed from its foundation. However, despite this, we believe in monogamous relationships, and don't need a dna test to prove it. An old wise man from India told me once that the problem with American marriage is that we marry the person we love instead of love the person we marry. I have high empathy so I am aware of my wife's needs. Most men aren't. Not saying women don't share blame....the evolution of the American wife into these trophy wife monsters is an abomination...but hardly unexpected. We are responsible for our own reality. Relationships can't be based on simply reaction only. You must create.

Sebastian, are you bothering the adults again?

My wife and I have had several conversations about marriage. First of all, the playing field has never been level. You study the history of marriage...and how it relates to property and almost all girls names are variations of pure or sheep...and the concept of traditional marriage is doomed from its foundation. However, despite this, we believe in monogamous relationships, and don't need a dna test to prove it. An old wise man from India told me once that the problem with American marriage is that we marry the person we love instead of love the person we marry. I have high empathy so I am aware of my wife's needs. Most men aren't. Not saying women don't share blame....the evolution of the American wife into these trophy wife monsters is an abomination...but hardly unexpected. We are responsible for our own reality. Relationships can't be based on simply reaction only. You must create.

Funny I never really thought of it like that, I consider my Wife not only my wife....but my best friend....maybe that is why we have been togeather 20 plus years.

Although we have a lot in common she is not interested in economies or the like....where I am a fanatic on the subject.

Vonbek777 wrote:

the evolution of the American wife into these trophy wife monsters is an abomination...but hardly unexpected. We are responsible for our own reality.

Agreed.
Peter, Peter Pumpkin Eater...put her in a pumpkin shell, and there she sat in Hell.

sebastian

if you put "sebastian's_dad" on the ignore list

my guess is, that handle probably hasnt existed for more than 24 hours

plus ya gotta admit that was just a harmless funny joke

btw...not one single poster (imposter) is on my ignore list

i have "lobbied" CR and Ken from time to time to remove people from their membership

all were advocating violence and / or making racist, sexist or hate filled venomous remarks

but hay you have right to ignore whom ever

But hay?

Ass Wheat.

rly... Shock

Ya....but I like Harley's also, and that bores her as well

-20 in the red correct?

as of 12:16 UUP is @ 22.67 down $0.05 or 0.22%

sebastian

i appreciate and agree with what you said about ideology versus civility

have a nice day

but please dial back the pollyanna perspective on the economy...its not convincing

Please don't think I am advocating the traditional Indian view of marriage, I was just sharing a comment I heard when I was around 13 that stuck with me.

(OT) Bob Dobbs said: "Sebastian, I don't block you but don't respond to you anymore either. Frankly, I consider you one of the least civil people here. You'll say something fairly rude and dismissive about someone else's ideas, and follow it up with a smiley as if that makes it all right."

Perhaps you're right, and I can do better.

Sebastian

How does the JOLTs data compare to the CPS historical flows data: http://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_flows_history.pdf? That series seems to indicate that hiring (flows from unemployed to employed status) has picked up over the last year while firing (flows from employed to unemployed status) only began to subside in September or so.

crazyv wrote:
The best evolutionary strategy for the male is to impregnate as many females as possible and get other males to think the offspring are theirs. But of course the risk from the males perspective is that while you are out doing that somebody might be doing it to you.

Ah yes, the original carry trade...

Cinco-X wrote:

with the threat of an "Indian Divorce" or a loss of dowry hanging over their heads, they have good reasons to make them work-

It is all relative. The Japanese divorce rate is low compared to American standards, but the number of Japanese wives who think of their husbands as garbage is probably the same compared to Americans if not higher. Of course, other cultures make "marriage" more interesting by allowing multiple wives, male infidelity outside of the marriage, stoning of spouses, and (relatively) easy renunciation of the marriage vows with little punishment for the men involved.
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Surprisingly when taken in context, Marriage both sucks and rocks just like Life in general.

Cinco-X wrote:

I've noticed that Indian marriages usually workout much better than many American marriages

For whom?, not the women. The practice of a widow forced onto her husband's funeral pyre. India is also the heartland of ultrasound sex-selective (female) abortion. Violence against women in India isn't just a current issue, but rather has deep seated traditional roots in the culture.

this has got to be one of the most BS celebrity excuses since the whole Elin "rescuing" Tiger story. Apparently, Usher had $1M in bling stolen from his SUV. or maybe he's a graduate of the Nic Cage school of financial management.

Singer Usher hit for $1 million plus in Lenox Road car break-in  | accessAtlanta

I view this economic debacle as thus:

Those for the status quo are quite happy ensconced in their boxes, while those that crave the truth are on the outside of that very same box, looking in.

My favorite is Charles II of Spain.

Dating to approximately the year 1550, outbreeding in Charles II's lineage had ceased. From then on, all his ancestors were in one way or another descendants of Joanna the Mad and Philip I of Castile, and among these just the royal houses of Spain, Austria, and Bavaria. Charles II's genome was more homozygous than in an average brother-sister offspring.[2] He was born physically and mentally disabled, and disfigured. Possibly through affliction with mandibular prognathism, he was unable to chew. His tongue was so large that his speech could barely be understood, and he frequently drooled. He may also have suffered from the endocrine disease acromegaly.

Charles II of Spain - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What I'm curious about is a place like Iceland with a population of only 300,000. Don't they run into issues with their limited genetic pool?

Tread music:

YouTube - The Alan Parsons Project- Fall Of The House Of Usher (Pavane)

rps wrote:

For whom?, not the women. The practice of a widow forced onto her husband's funeral pyre. India is also the heartland of ultrasound sex-selective (female) abortion. Violence against women in India isn't just a current issue, but rather has deep seated traditional roots in the culture.

Sheesh! "Indian Divorce" was a reference to a 60 Minutes (I think) story about men burning their wives in their houses to get rid of them and keep the dowry. Violence against women is a problem throughout the world, and no worse there than say, Africa where genital mutilation is still widely practiced. Even Europe isn't all that great a place to be a woman, despite what some liberals would have you think. I was basing my thoughts on my experience seeing Indian marriages here in the US, not in India. Do you actually have any first hand experience with marriages in India?

ResistanceIsFeudal wrote:

A special neurochemical cocktail that nature cooked up over millions of years playing with the chemistry set. Designed to do exactly that

LOL! Yup

Cinco-X wrote:

Don't worry; I once heard a city girl make the remark, "I wouldn't have any idea how to milk a bull ".

Have you seen how huge the spark plugs are in a diesel engine?

Oxtail wrote:

What I'm curious about is a place like Iceland with a population of only 300,000. Don't they run into issues with their limited genetic pool?

Having spoken with some Danes, it seems that Scandinavian women are usually "Too independent" to quote him directly. This is probably a cultural thing to help with the whole shallow gene pool issue. Not that American Indian's tribes were essentially large families; their cultural mores required sharing their wives with visitors passing through, and again, this probably evolves as a means to bring in new blood. Of course, they would also kill deformed babies.

shill wrote:

Wow the dollar just took a nose dive.....interesting

I think the 10-year is a bit more of interest. What is blowing up?

ZIT = Zero Interest Treasuries

Fuuny I was just peeking at that BH

Shield Maidens and Valkyries, need I say more. Shame the tactics Christianity used to convert 'the northern pagans'....least they didn't chain the entire culture.

Juvenal Delinquent wrote:

It's worth noting in an era like ours when most every social taboo was being violated, incest never made much headway.

But it still happens more times than we would like to imagine. People can admit to being a rape victim, but hardly anyone could ever admit to being a victim of incest.

There's no reason for the quality of life in the country to go down. We have an overcapacity problem, not undercapacity. But we have to get rid of the looters/bankers first. The problem is one of wealth distribution, and the bastards that are greedily squandering our countries resources for personal gain rather than for the benefit of everyone.

If you believe the quality of life has to go down, the bankers have won.

yagij wrote:

But it still happens more times than we would like to imagine. People can admit to being a rape victim, but hardly anyone could ever admit to being a victim of incest.

http://www.rainn.org/

Gavshire Hathaway wrote:

The problem is one of wealth distribution

Oddly enough, "wealth distribution" ranks up there with females and liberals with the Faux News types. Geee, I wonder if all three concepts are related somehow?

Vonbek777 wrote:

King's personal body guard

Symbolic or actual? If the King was really threatened by the opposing males I doubt his daughters would be the last line of defense.

In an unanticipated consequence ...

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In Guns, Germs & Steel, Jared Diamond describes the same stock of people, the Maoris of New Zealand, and the Morioris of Chatham Island.

They both made their way to both places at about the same time, but NZ could support agriculture advancement, and the Maoris became fierce warriors, whereas the Moriori's island wasn't up to snuff agriculturally, and they turned to lives of non-violence, as their lifeboat could only support a few thousand people.

The Maoris learned to adapt to western ways pretty quickly, after Captain Cook showed up, and this is what happened:

In 1835 some Ngāti Mutunga and Ngāti Tama people, Māori from the Taranaki region of the North Island of New Zealand settled in the Chathams. On November 19, 1835, the Rodney, a chartered European ship, arrived carrying 500 Maori armed with guns, clubs and axes, followed by another ship with 400 more Maori on December 5, 1835. They proceeded to enslave some Moriori and kill and cannibalise others. "Parties of warriors armed with muskets, clubs and tomahawks, led by their chiefs, walked through Moriori tribal territories and settlements without warning, permission or greeting. If the districts were wanted by the invaders, they curtly informed the inhabitants that their land had been taken and the Moriori living there were now vassals."

Moriori - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Get rid of the super model mindset. Think Olga, the big brawny two axe wielding woman who will kick you in the balls before loping your head off.

ResistanceIsFeudal wrote:

Call it what you will, but historical evidence and anthropology supports this.

Yeah, I think the fear of shrunken winkies pretty much explains most of the "modern conservatives" political positions. Which is why Merican politics is just the kick-ass Daddy Party battling the pussy Mommy Party. The "discussions" are pointless.

shill wrote:

Nice! store front bought wives....Um yes I'll take 2...22 year old blonds, without brains please. ( no offense to our blond bloggers )

There's an app for that! OK, not really. But there are plenty of websites...

Gavshire Hathaway wrote:

If you believe the quality of life has to go down, the bankers have won.

Gavshire, if you've got yourself personally indebted beyond your capacity to meet the obligations, I submit your quality of life in terms of capital or services or possessions will presumably take a hit. And there's rather more than one or two of you, whatever the situation among the bankers.

[probably need to have my irony detector recalibrated.]

shill wrote:

Nice! store front bought wives....Um yes I'll take 2...22 year old blonds, without brains please. ( no offense to our blond bloggers )

I think you generally had to buy direct from the father, for a certain number of cattle, depending on his daughter's looks and breeding. You're too accustomed to the whole Russian bride thing on the internet-

Vonbek777 wrote:

Think Olga, the big brawny two axe wielding woman who will kick you in the balls before loping your head off.

Would kick MY ass, for sure. But if Olga exists, her male counterpart also exists. In the end, males are bigger, stronger, and stuffed to the gills with testosterone; testosterone guarantees there's not going to be much of a contest.

Would kick MY ass, for sure. But if Olga exists, her male counterpart also exists. In the end, males are bigger, stronger, and stuffed to the gills with testosterone; testosterone guarantees there's not going to be much of a contest.

Ya NRA but your forgetting menopause....

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1 in 25 being duped. I think i remember 1 in 20 being quoted in a UK study.

NOTaREALmerican

excellent point and as we "progress' it seems society is valuing more and more women as citizens, co-workers and leaders

much to all our benefit

My wife agrees with you. She is pretty sure she has been burned at the stake multiple times in previous lives.

Juvenal Delinquent wrote:

Please wish me into the cornfield, I beg of you.

But thats gooooooooood...