The sometimes flat, sometimes inverted yield curve is wreaking havoc on the ARM rates. Another Fed funds hike should set more alarm bells off.

Does not bode well given that construction is still going on at a brisk pace (correct me if I'm wrong) and we still have a lot of existing home inventory coming on to the market presumably from speculators (again, correct me if I'm wrong) and we're beginning to move into the perennially slower selling season.

Looming housing glut.

Check out the homebuilder stocks over the last year. They've been absolutely crushed. The market started selling long before the companies started disappointing. What will happen when the inventory glut starts to hit cash flow which in turn could result in the builders slashing prices.

The drop in refi numbers should set off alarm bells on consumer consumption. With ARMs falling off a lot, many potetial buyers are thinking twice about over-extending to get that house out of their price range. It's going to get ugly, rents will rise and the governemnt will probably once again change how it defines CPI.

lloyd, last year in June, on an investing forum, I noted that Kudlow was touting Toll Brothers - a strong sign of a top.

Larry Kudlow on June 20, 2005:
The Housing Bears Are Wrong Again 

The all time high was in July, and TOL has since declined 50%.

What will happen next is a great question. Most of the assets of the homebuilders are in land - and land prices could fall significantly in the near future. If I was an investor in a homebuilder, I'd be concerned that they never seem to flow cash - even in good times. I sold my last homebuilder (SPF) a couple of years ago (too early - but a nice profit).

On consumers: consumer credit was up strong for April (reported today). This makes me think the housing ATM is starting to dry up - as the MBA refi numbers suggest - and some consumers are now using credit cards to maintain their lifestyles. This is high interest debt and is concerning.

So we can probably expect consumer spending to soften and, as Bernanke noted this week, "Consumer spending, which makes up more than two-thirds of total spending, has decelerated noticeably in recent months."

Interesting times.
Best Wishes.

I may be alone in this -- this is a great blog and I read it frequently but it seems the focus has shifted towards analysis of government press releases --- I was kind of hoping to see more local news that are somewhat hard to find in the press -- not that analysis of macro releases is a bad thing -- its just that it would be nice to see more ancdotal evidence of whats going on in the housing market.

sharkbait, from my perspective my focus hasn't changed - except to miminize the political posts. I've never considered this a housing blog; more of a general economics blog.

Right now I think the housing market is a huge issue - so naturally many of my posts concern the housing market. I will always follow housing, but I'll probably post on other issues as times change.

I'm hoping to be a raving bull again (I was almost the only Bull around in Dec 1994!). Hopefully this blog will last that long - and some of the readers will stick around.

Best Regards.

Mr. Kudlow, alas, seems to have a difficult time factoring into his forecasts the misallocation that results from economic monomania, as well as the perils of shifting US industry and worker training from production to consumption and debt servicing.

Swapping houses for increasing values and building more and more pleasing living accomodations does not an economy make.

At least not one with a positive long term outlook.

As we awake from our euphoric dreams of becoming wealthy merely by owning houses, we find that we are much less suited to the gritty, arduous task of producing the real thing.

Such an intelligent post ac --right up there with CR's use of Kudlow as an inverted signal.
This eloquent bit:

As we awake from our euphoric dreams of becoming wealthy merely by owning houses, we find that we are much less suited to the gritty, arduous task of producing the real thing.

reminds us that the job dislocation just ahead of us (don't wait for the bounce (that pimple) that is going to come when the Fed pauses and revives the stock market (a mosquito bite people --not that gorgeous breast you were hoping for) is going to send lots of generously remunerated RE related workers with less than generously transferable or generously skilled talents into that gritty real world.

lloyd,

Check out the top for Toll Brothers, et al, vs the top in new home sales. The market wasn't exactly ahead of reality (looks just about perfectly coincident to me), but it certainly was ahead of the eventual reports of canceled orders and the like, and of many stock touts.

Calculated Risk says:

Hopefully this blog will last that long - and some of the readers will stick around.

Are you kidding? And I'd bet most of the readers are going to be around.

CR,

Flow of funds data are out, and I have forgetten your trick for estimating mortgage cash outs. Help??

Oh my goodness, Katherine Harris is analyzing flow of funds data. What is the world coming to! Smile

CR,

I now firmly believe the real Y2K crisis wasn't the ginned-up meadia goofyness of computer date glitches, but the stock market peak of January 2000. The "rally" (suckers' rally, actually) from the tough of 2002/2003 was a correction of a major bear market that began at the start of the millenium. If you're looking for another correction against the bear market trend, consider this: it will be but another suckers' rally, a blip up for shorting/putting at the peaks.

With 30 years of easy money/debt to work off, expect this bear to wreck the greatest havoc since 1929-1932. Actually, I'm anticipating far worse.

We can begin by ignoring the posturing about inflation concerns vis-a-vis monetary policy. The FED's first and foremost task is to prevent the FEAR of inflation as it goes about what it has done for 90 years: inflate the currency and reduce it's purchasing power approximately 95% in that period of time. It's tought (perhaps impossible?) to balance the opposing forces of real economic growth/employment and corrosive inflation over the long, long term. It looks like time is almost up.

Every central banker on the planet is cranking out money/debt at a previously unimaginable rate. The USA is doing it to prop up asset bubbles, the foreigners to prop up the dollar in a temporizing measure to foster exports. Sadly, this is both a game of chicken and musical chairs. Eventually all debts are extinguished.

When productivity exceeds consumption debt is retired with orderly P&I payments. When reversed for any extended length of time, debt is discounted or written off. I suggest preparing for the write-offs, and the acute reluctance of willing lenders and creditors. Confidence to borrow and lend will cramp severly and thus usher in further asset-price deflation and eventually global economic depression.

Have you noticed how all the jibbering pie holes on CNBC are flumoxed by the confusion, irritation, concern, nervousness, anxiety, (have I missed some of the discriptors they have been using since the May 10th peak?) troubling the waters in the pits on the exchanges? I repeat, "When concern turns to worry, and worry turns to fear, then panic selling ensues." The fuse has been lit and some are smelling the smoke. Yeah, I'm mixing metaphors here, but every cautious triangulation puts palpable fear squarely in the sights.

When you eliminate the sheeple trades from the first half hour of each day's trading, the impetus for the plunge becomes eye-poppingly clear. I recommend buying a little insurance: S&P puts with market strikes have been fattening up the accounts of the smart money traders.

Crazy? Like a fox. The best offense in a bear market is a great defense.

Best,

the jibbering pie holes on CNBC
a variation on "cake holes" no doubt.
I do like the wide screen view David. Yes, the landscape out much further than the "pie holes" usually take it, but what do I (you?) know about major media jibbering exactly? 'Not a regular consumer like some who have the leisure to make a lengthy, however critical, study.
The recent stock market volatility (esp its relationship to the Fed interest rates) has a visibility that seems over-blown to me. Readers here may have significant portfolios but I'd guess we (so humbly submitted) are not professional traders or others whose incomes are generated largely from the stock market rather than some stagnant wage. There is quite a pile of Americans who have no stake in the stock market --whose every investing penny is spent on the mortgage, yes?

Yes I think we are near a top.

And I see panic selling looming

Watch out...be cagey

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