I wish I could square Doug's comments with David Tice's repeated assertion that the US equity markets will shortly resume their crash. Doug seems to be sayinig that reflation is the new dynamic. Doug and David both represent Prudent Bear, which is a fund that bets against US stocks. I guess it's all about the timing, but they seem to be expressing different opinions on that topic.
the painting The Money Game is not bad but is a bit derivative of the scuola metafisica art movement made famous by De Chirico with a touch of Jeff Koons thrown in...
July 18 (Bloomberg) -- Zions Bancorporation’s California Bank & Trust unit acquired the deposits of Vineyard Bank, one of four lenders seized yesterday by regulators. The failures will cost the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. a total of $1.09 billion. California Bank & Trust in San Diego said it assumed $1.5 billion in deposits and $1.4 billion in loans from Rancho Cucamonga, California-based Vineyard, which lost more than $100 million last year as builders defaulted on construction loans. Vineyard was closed by the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency and the FDIC was named receiver, the FDIC said in a statement. The FDIC entered a loss-sharing transaction with California Bank & Trust on the acquired assets. The regulator will also share losses on $1.3 billion of assets related to the seizure yesterday of Temecula Valley Bank in Temecula, California, which was shuttered by the state’s regulator.
July 17 (Bloomberg) -- Victor Stern thought his money troubles were over when he got approval to modify his home loan. Then his credit score dropped 121 points. Stern, a business development director at an information technology company in Charlotte, North Carolina, said he was shocked to see his credit score drop to 619 from 740 after entering the trial period for a loan adjustment under President Barack Obama’s Home Affordable Modification Program. A salary reduction caused him to seek a change in the terms of his loan before he missed any payments.
Published: Friday, 17 Jul 2009 | 1:52 PM ET
By: Sara Behuneck
It's a sticky Saturday morning and I'm handcuffed in the back seat of a Jeep Grand Cherokee parked on the side of a Philadelphia street. On one side of me is my boyfriend, Bruce, and on the other his best friend, Nick. Both of them are also cuffed—and like me, sweating like pigs. I reach into my hair and pull out a bobby pin that within seconds I've fashioned into a simple device I use to jimmy open my handcuff locks. Our assignment now is to evade 12 professionally trained trackers in a 25-square-block area for the next eight hours. It may be hard to believe, but we asked for this. Actually, we paid for it: $550 apiece.
Today is the final day of a three-day "Urban Escape and Evade" course offered by onPoint Tactical LLC, a New Jersey-based company that teaches soldiers, police officers, and, increasingly, civilians urban survival skills. Among the lessons we've learned are how to break through zip ties and telephone cords (the most common materials used as binding by kidnappers), smash a car window without making a sound, pick tumbler- and padlocks, puncture the tires of a pursuit vehicle with homemade caltrops, call for help using a ham radio, kill an attack dog—and, of course, how to escape from handcuffs (see a video here). To make today's exercise even more difficult, we've been assigned a variety of missions that will test our newfound prowess in urban tactical maneuvering.
From the WSJ: Earnings Uptick Lifts Confidence
"Stock Market Soars for the Week as Early Corporate Reports Handily Beat Estimates"
Despite the headline and subtitle, the article is actually quite good. It's balanced, pointing out that companies are beating very low analyst estimates. (FYI, ComstockFunds.com quotes the most recent estimate earnings for this quarter at a pathetic $6.50...how do they not beat those expectations!?).
It also points out this important fact:
Companies such as IBM still are reporting declining sales from a year ago, so that their profit gains are based more on cost-cutting than on a real improvement in the market.
NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- Who will be CNBC's No. 1 anchor, Maria Bartiromo or Erin Burnett? If they were pitted against one another in a prize fight, the announcer would hail Bartiromo as the defending champion while trumpeting Burnett as the No. 1 contender for the throne. Beyond the gossip angle, the answer to the question will go a long way toward determining the direction and tone of CNBC's news coverage.
Yesterday's mid day lift was credited to Nouriel Roubini's having said the worst was behind us. Later he backed away some from those comments, you can read that here. Before I get into this I am hesitant to be overly reliant on explanations for why the market does anything. Taleb has written about this and I tend to agree with him. That sort of analysis is right except for when it is wrong, if you take my meaning.
In the above link from Roubini he talks about his having expected the recession to be 24 months which means it would end at the end of this year so nothing new there. Additionally he says there will be slow growth coming out with a high risk of a double dip in late 2010 and unemployment peaking at 11% in 2010.
HH: didn't have to google him, but did so just to make sure it was really he who zapped me-- nice to see that Robert Williams has developed and persevered. His current style flashed me back to some wild times in the seventies…..
Lothar,
I don't see Dali all that much, it doesn't quite make it in Surrealism... the lighting scheme on the man is pure De Chirico... and the smiling flying pigs is Koons... (disclaimer: I have Jeff Koon's email and perhaps I'll try to get his take), EDIT
as if he had time for me
the painters use of perspective in the foreground, middle ground and background reminds of someone
else but I can't make the match...
This chart speaks for me -- with S&P down 50% and CIT down almost 100% (in two years). Jobless recovery will fix all this and more! Invalid Ticker Symbol - Yahoo! Finance
I don't understand how stimulus funds are being allocated. Of concern to me are that HHS, SSA and DOL are way ahead as far as spending what has been allocated to them. Seems to be a sign of stress on the social services to me. Looking at the recovery.gov site; most of the payments have come from those agencies... I figure they must be way ahead of what their spending plan was.
WASHINGTON -- Two appointees to a congressional panel investigating the financial crisis work for law firms that represent either Wall Street or its antagonists, raising concerns about the commission's impartiality and likely effectiveness. Congressional leaders earlier this week announced their choices for the 10-member Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission, a panel that has drawn comparisons to the Pecora Commission that investigated the stock-market crash of 1929. Its mission is to explore the causes of the crisis, as well as the collapse of specific Wall Street firms.
Some congressional observers are already predicting it could be bogged down by philosophical divides between its pro-consumer and pro-business wings. A nonpartisan watchdog group, the Center for Responsive Politics, released a report Friday saying that some appointees gave substantial amounts in campaign contributions, many of them to Democrats.
nemo & retirement - it's a double- edged sword, nemo. We all die anyway. The promise of retirement carries its own chains. If it is a lie and you perceive the lie, you have more freedom now than others.
I suppose I like gay/alt bars more now because they, like me, don't take the mating game so seriously. It's often a ridiculous place, full of laughter. I broke my rule tonight and downed two rum & cokes. I have about $30k in tax refunds coming, my sister the CPA and my cousin the prosecuting attorney have been cheated so spectacularly by the "smart" people of the US but they worked miracles for me. I owe them big- time.
Women like gay/ alt bars, too. Probably for the same reasons.
Lucifer, you really need to do a search & destroy mission to find that rare exceptional one. You may not succeed but you should at least try so that you have ammuntition when you're confronted by your future self.
"The resurgence of JPMorgan and Goldman Sachs gives both banks more financial clout than any other players on the Street -- allowing both firms to lure talent from everywhere else on the Street with multi-million pay packages, giving both firms enough economic power to charge clients whopping fees, and bestowing on both firms even more political heft in Washington.
Where are the antitrusters when we need them? Alternatively, why isn't the government charging Goldman and JPMorgan a large insurance fee for classifying both firms as "too big to fail" and therefore automatically bailed out if the risks they take turn sour? Instead, we've ended up with two giants that now have most of the casino to themselves, are playing with poker chips backed by taxpayers, and have a big say in what the rules of the game are to be."
Maybe he's looking for a White House dinner invite...
Ken: I'm on Firefox 3.5 and it gives me error if I take the poll of the sidebar version. However, when I click to the poll link and then vote on the poll page itself, I'm able to register my vote.
Nice idea. I'm all for any user to create a poll. I think that ignore should work for polls too. If I put a person on ignore, I shouldn't see that person's poll either.
Being able to comment on a poll might be interesting, too.
Not being able to live as I choose to, and do what i want to..
A woman saying or hinting that she is doing a favor by sleeping with a non-white man.
Escorts are cheaper (total cost of service, no strings, no games) and I can get any age/ look/ service combination I want.. and change it on my whims.
Once you decide, based on evidence, that people are treating you poorly in your prime.. you become very intolerant of anyone who shows even a trace of that attitude. You stop seeing them as human.. and that is irreversible.
Ken; You going to be able to screen out "popularity" polls? I'm thinking of those that would make one make one of the users the subject. Or maybe we can just all agree to be grown-ups about this,...
The Acquisitors like Paulson can't grasp people who don't seek money bcause money is the holiest of holies.
The Paulsons of the world delude themslves into measuring themselves and others by piles of money and that's why they accomplish nothing of great value in the end. Even Bill Gates figured that out. But not the GS weenies, they're far too clever to do something of value.
On a related note, why would a young non-white care about a system that does not reward him. The US is much better than other countries in this respect, but seriously- most of the western world cannot expect their poorly treated immigrants to give a fk about them when they are old. It does not matter whether they were born in those countries or not- western europe is so fked!
nemo & retirement - it's a double- edged sword, nemo. We all die anyway. The promise of retirement carries its own chains. If it is a lie and you perceive the lie, you have more freedom now than others.
If I had a dollar for all the people who tell me they are putting off retirement due to 'conditions' I'd be able to retire now.
Some lost their ass in the markets... some saw their careers derail... most though just didn't see time sneaking up on them and they didn't prepare... that has been happening forever.
In most cases they really do have enough to retire IF they downsize appropriately - that means downsize A LOT. Virtually disappear. If they could get that small more than a few could retire now at 40, 50, whatever. But they have to really go underground and they can't do it - ego won't let them disappear.
So they keep slogging. If you enjoy the slog [I mostly do] then no problem... but I don't hear many people saying they enjoy the march. Too bad really - the money alone is never worth it.
I think you still live in the 1920s.. we cannot downsize because in a post-industrial society almost all jobs are non-essential. Even the essential jobs depend on the non-essential workers having money to spend.
July 18 (Bloomberg) -- Morgan Stanley, the world’s third- biggest stock underwriter, won a lead role from the Federal Reserve Bank of New York in arranging initial public offerings of American International Group Inc. units. Morgan Stanley, which is advising the New York Fed on its bailout of AIG, will reap fees from the IPO’s and from sales of other units to buyers, according to documents the agency posted on its Web site yesterday. The bank gets an initial $4 million payment and $2.5 million a quarter for its advisory role.
July 18 (Bloomberg) -- EnTrust Capital Inc., a hedge-fund firm whose founders contributed to the campaign of New York Comptroller Alan Hevesi, received millions of dollars of pension money to invest while he was running the state retirement fund, public records show. Hevesi’s staff suggested the state use EnTrust to invest its money, according to Consulting Services Group LLC, a company hired to vet and choose firms. EnTrust was one of 50 firms recommended by the fund in 2006 and 2007 to CSG and one of 15 firms chosen, said a person familiar with the matter. EnTrust’s vetting was a priority, a person familiar with the process said.
By Jon Ortiz
Last Modified: Friday, Jul. 17, 2009 - 9:40 pm
California's biggest public employee union, sensing that its members are angry and ready to act on it, has called for a strike authorization vote that if supported would give the union's leaders the authority to call for workplace actions up to and including a walkout. Service Employees International Union Local 1000 plans to mail the ballots this afternoon. Members will have until July 31 to return their ballot. The union will announce the results a day or two later.
Seducing 25yo women is easy.
Cheating people thru financial fraud is easy.
Even killing people is relatively easy.
The true consideration is the moral framework we adopt.
It can't be based on what others say or sign or agree to.
It has to based on what we ourselves know is true.
I think you still live in the 1920s.. we cannot downsize because in a post-industrial society almost all jobs are non-essential. Even the essential jobs depend on the non-essential workers having money to spend.
No I live in the here and now.
The key is INDIVIDUALS would have to decide they are dropping out and not being an essential or non-essential. They would have to decide they are going to disappear.
I don't know what TPTB would do if a lot of people did that - but I don't expect a lot of people to do it so it won't be an issue - but an individual sure could... it isn't that hard once you decide to 'get small'.
BTW - there is a guy in my neighborhood who does this... lives in a very small 2BR older home paid for years ago... walks to work [doesn't own a car - doesn't have a DL in the freaking rural midwest!]. Walks to the grocery, shops, etc. Carries everything home by hand [that limits your buy for sure].
He is 'invisible'... economically speaking that is and totally okay with it. I chat with him almost everyday as he passes our house.
That is their greatest fear! they cannot be rich and safe if we become S. America. The only reason S.American elites can exploit their people is that the 'west' aids them and is their safe harbor. the elites in the west have no 'safe' harbor.
//I don't know what TPTB would do if a lot of people did that - but I don't expect a lot of people to do it so it won't be an issue - but an individual sure could... it isn't that hard once you decide to 'get small'.//
They've got a little test they give you; it's a balloon, and if you can get inside of it, they know... you're small. And they can't put you in a regular cell either, because you walk right out
The economy is more like a child's brain or biological evolution.. you cannot reverse the changes without killing the system. Rats cannot me made into lampreys.
Let’s Get Small (1977) was an album by American comedian Steve Martin. It included Excuse Me, a comedy bit whose title went on to become a national catch phrase.
//That and New Deal politicians to 'spread out the limited amount of work'//
I intentionally did NOT make that statement a judgment call [should they or shouldn't they have done that, were they right or were they wrong to do so] - fact is they did it and it wasn't an afterthought, it was intentional.
Let’s Get Small (1977) was an album by American comedian Steve Martin. It included Excuse Me, a comedy bit whose title went on to become a national catch phrase.
I remember it well. And as a result 'get small' has a bit of a double entendre - one can have some fun 'getting small'.
I see massive boomer capitulation in terms of housing circa 2025. Geithner will be turning 64 that year. Those last few boomers ('58-'61) are the stupidest and dullest of that cohort, and will cling the longest to the illusion.
July 18 (Bloomberg) -- CIT Group Inc. Chief Executive Officer Jeffrey Peek, under whose leadership the lender’s stock has plunged 98 percent, may be in line ahead of the U.S. government to be paid if CIT files for bankruptcy protection. Peek is owed $14.7 million if he’s terminated or there’s a change of control at CIT. A compensation claim would put him ahead of shareholders -- including the U.S. Treasury -- in the event of liquidation, Scott Peltz, managing director of the corporate restructuring group at RSM McGladrey, said in an interview.
Australia's export prices slumped at a record pace last quarter and threatening to drag on the economy in coming months, providing one reason for interest rates to stay at record lows for some time to come.
Published: Friday, 17 Jul 2009 | 10:07 AM ET
By: Vince Farrell
First it was the Divine Miss M with a few kind words a couple of days ago when she recommended Goldman Sachs [GS 156.84 --- UNCH ]. Then there was a report Thursday afternoon that the renowned bear, Nouriel Roubini, had a more gentle view of the world. That gave the market an excuse to rally when it was having trouble with JP Morgan's [JPM 36.89 0.76 (+2.1%) ] earnings report and some positive news regarding unemployment claims.
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Different date; same story, 2007, 2008, 2009 @ Calculated Risk its all blending together. I can't remember a time when most people here weren't cynical about our financial future. I guess its only been since about late 2008 when the bailouts started; thats less than a year ago. Yet it seems like such a long time. I'm gonna have to walk through the archives to figure out when we entered this haze. I suppose its funny looking at this all in hindsight.
Example: Lehman to Offer $3B in Convertible Preferreds Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. ... is selling at least $3 billion of new shares to U.S. institutions to reassure investors it has ample access to capital.
Or maybe this one, March 18, 2008 Goldman Sachs ... is selling Chrysler LLC debt for less than 80 cents on the dollar ...
Also; something from Larry Summers: Mr. Summers ... said federal housing and mortgage policy is "behind the curve." He said the focus on adjustable rate mortgages which are resetting is misplaced; lower interest rates ameliorate that. He estimated 30% of homes with mortgages -- about 15 million in all -- are likely to be worth less than their mortgages. He argued foreclosures are enormously costly and destroy value and thus should be prevented as much as possible. He also said estimates that the housing and mortgage bust will reach $400 billion are likely to be "substantially optimistic".
trader walt, May 2008 in one of the oil-spike threads: Maybe OT,
I worked for a Harvard trained oil lease broker once. He liked to describe how the majors would flood the market with crude, time and again, and squeeze the wildcatters by busting the crude price from $10 to $1/barrel. Then they would buy production from the wildcatters before cutting back production again. Now,it seems, by limiting crude production and raising the price, the squeezing is moving down stream affecting the refiners (and end users- us!)
Another point, don't tell me about OPEC's dwindling reserves. Tom, the lease broker (and producer), convinced me long ago that cartel members and the majors have little incentive to report accurate data information. Think about how much oil the majors say they have stored in Nigeria or the dimensions of on oil field there. Who is going to go there and check - Deloitte?
Remember, an oil well is a hole in the ground owned by a liar.
quote of a quote quoting Krugman on oil: "One of the things I find puzzling about the whole oil market discussion is how complicated people seem to make it. They get all wrapped up in stuff about forward markets, hedge funds, etc., and lose sight of the fundamental fact that there are only two things you can do with the worlds oil production: consume it, or store it.
If the price is above the level at which the demand from end-users is equal to production, theres an excess supply and that supply has to be going into inventories. End of story. If oil isnt building up in inventories, there cant be a bubble in the spot price.
...you have to believe that 2 million barrels a day is disappearing into secret hoards somewhere secret, because its not showing up in the OECD inventory data. Thats a lot of oil. And bear in mind that people have been claiming that theres an oil bubble for years.
So my challenge to people who say theres an oil bubble is this: lets get physical. Tell me where you think the excess supply of crude is going.
Have no idea why my characters are displayed incrrectlyh here...
From August 2007: US consumers are defaulting on credit-card payments at a significantly higher rate than last year ...
Rinse repeat in 2008, and 2009!
Conjure bag was recently a question to a jeopardy answer (~ 3 mo?). It was in the $1k row, I knew it immediately.... they were probably looking for mojo bag.
I can't remember a time when most people here weren't cynical about our financial future.
The US by and large is still in the first stage of Denial. We're making noises like we're moving into Bargaining, but still have yet to see true Anger. I guess we'll have to see a Depression before we can Accept what happened and try to move forward.
Many of the American business people I speak with are keen to position themselves for the rebound they anticipate as faithfully as tomorrow's dawn. This they may get in the intermediate.
Anticipates 80% non-imports, excluding spices, coffee, chocolate and the like, for which people will pay a premium. Blueberries from Chile? Not so much.
Lucifer's point that an evolving system can't reverse itself is a good one.
What happens instead is (according to Tainter and history) that a system grown too complex to be efficient collapses into smaller entities, and these are actually more efficient that the larger one.
don't quite understand that Polling idea... and am a bit concerned
that so far the votes lean toward Polls created by CR & designates...
constructing a proper poll is an art in itself, during the 2004 Prez election
I was on a team whose primary goal was to predict the Nov. 2004 election results
30 days before that event... our chief public competitor was a Prof at Yale...
I spent weeks reading about 50 years of polling data, not to mention jobs data, etc,
and trying to fit it to our model...
IMHO it doesn't sound like a great idea to me... the last thing we need here is
a Supreme Council (don't get me started on the idiocy of the Ignore User feature...
a) it's fascist, for one b) it creates a disequilibrium of fairness [as I understand it
someone turns me off in the dark of night and I still must be subject to their
incisive and cogent thoughts or their opposite?]
... anyone for term limits on how long a User can remain on CR?
AIG disaster: (Duh, you stupid Congressclowns, we told you so)
Bloomberg, July 17:
“For counterparties to voluntarily terminate those contracts makes no sense,” Havens said in an interview. “There’s no question that asset values have soured on a global basis. With the faith and credit of the U.S. government backing those guarantees, why would they give that up?”
The falling value of holdings backed by the swaps may force AIG to post more collateral, pressuring the insurer’s liquidity and credit ratings in a repeat of the cycle that caused the firm’s near collapse in September, Citigroup Inc. analyst Joshua Shanker said last week. The insurer needed a U.S. bailout valued at $182.5 billion after handing over collateral on a different book of swaps backing U.S. subprime mortgages....
Last month, AIG said in a regulatory filing that it may be at risk for losses for “significantly longer than anticipated” if the banks don’t terminate their swaps.
‘Plea for Help’
“Given the size of the credit exposure, a decline in the fair value of this portfolio could have a material adverse effect on AIG’s consolidated results,” the company said in the June 29 filing.
The Securities and Exchange Commission asked for AIG to add the disclosure to the insurer’s “risk factors,” Herr said. The action wasn’t prompted by any change in the securities backed by the swaps, he said.
Collateral Damage
Counterparties terminated or allowed to expire $27.8 billion in the so-called regulatory relief swaps in the first quarter, and AIG got notice for another $16.6 billion in terminations through April 30, the firm said. Some of the remaining swaps have suffered losses, and AIG posted $1.2 billion in collateral as of the first quarter.
“You’ll have an increasingly toxic pool of credit-default swaps every quarter” as the least risky swaps are terminated, said Donn Vickrey, analyst at research firm Gradient Analytics Inc. “Swaps that are being held are done so for two reasons, either for regulatory relief or because they’re ‘in the money’” which means they are valuable hedges against asset declines.
AIG has recognized that some of the swaps are no longer being held for regulatory relief. The insurer reclassified $3 billion in swaps through March 31 that are likely to be kept after the regulatory benefit expires, AIG said. The firm had a $393 million liability on those swaps....
Prime Mortgages
The $192.6 billion figure for the swaps includes $99.4 billion tied to corporate loans and $90.2 billion linked to prime residential mortgages, the insurer said.
“The sheer size of the portfolio and the ‘black box’ nature of its underlying loans and assets do little to calm fears of further CDS losses,” Shanker said in the July 8 research note. “Potential markdowns in the regulatory CDS portfolio may result in collateral calls that would again put pressure on AIG’s liquidity.”
The government’s rescue includes a $60 billion credit line, $52.5 billion to buy mortgage-linked assets owned or insured by the company, and an investment of as much as $70 billion. AIG plans to reduce its debt under the credit line by $25 billion by handing over stakes in two non-U.S. life insurance units, the insurer said last month. AIG has tapped about $43 billion from the line as of July 15. "
anyone here follow ZeroHedge? I guess Blog, their hosting site has received a number of complaints about
intellectual property rights violation... or at least that's what Tyler Durden says in his ineffable style. (I wonder if
one had to do with his use of the name...)
For example, high frequency trading firms, which represent approximately 2% of the 20,000 or so trading firms operating in the US markets today, account for 73% of all US equity trading volume. These companies include proprietary trading desks for a small number of major investment banks, less than 100 of the most sophisticated hedge funds and hundreds of the most secretive prop shops, all of which operate with one thing in mind—capture profit opportunities by being smarter and faster than the closest competition.
Well said. The handling of AIG's contract is what convinced me that the taxpayers and Congress are being played as fools. The parties involved know exactly what they've done in the past to make this all happen and what they are doing to try to get themselves out of it. And yet we taxpayers who are trying to pay attention seem powerless to stop it.
July 18 (Bloomberg) -- CIT Group Inc. Chief Executive Officer Jeffrey Peek, under whose leadership the lender’s stock has plunged 98 percent, may be in line ahead of the U.S. government to be paid if CIT files for bankruptcy protection.
Peek is owed $14.7 million if he’s terminated or there’s a change of control at CIT. A compensation claim would put him ahead of shareholders -- including the U.S. Treasury -- in the event of liquidation, Scott Peltz, managing director of the corporate restructuring group at RSM McGladrey, said in an interview.
continued: the article goes on to say:
" To realize any real benefit from implementing these strategies, a trading firm must have a real-time, colocated, high-frequency trading platform—one where data is collected, and orders are created and routed to execution venues in sub-millisecond times."
... and this idea of 'colocated'
I wonder what if any colocation the exchanges are offering. Does that mean Goldman has done a reverse elvis? (my own pet theory is that they have tunneled under the exchange and are wired up to the hardware above, devilishly clever. Nothing like shaving off a few millisecond hops. )
FRANKFURT (Reuters) - Porsche SE's controlling families will agree on Thursday to accept an offer by Volkswagen to buy its sports car business Porsche AG for roughly 8 billion euros ($11.28 billion), Der Spiegel reported on Saturday.
Germany's leading weekly magazine wrote that the rival Porsche and Piech clans, which own 100 percent of Porsche SE votes, will approve the two-stage takeover at a supervisory board meeting on July 23.
Think your tomatoes are the best in Sacramento? You can prove it at the Great Tomato Contest, part of this weekend's California State Home & Garden Show at the Sacramento Convention Center, 13th and J streets.
Hosted by the California Garden Clubs' Kids Growing Strong program, the tomato contest will be at 1 p.m. today, with categories for best-tasting, biggest and ugliest. Registration forms and rules:www.calstatehomeshow. com.
Admission is $8 general, free for ages 16 and under.
.......we put some of our stuff through the local County Fair growers gig, and talk about a major pain in the ass - the old gals act like old guys shouldn't even be allowed to walk thru the hallowed exhibit halls!.....LOL.......(our relish DID win the Blue Ribbon a couple of years ago tho)
The vegetable, fruit and animal exhibits are the ONLY reason that I go to the South Carolina State Fair.
Well, that and watching 400+lb. human bovines suck down fried dough and 60 oz. Cokes...
BSR, have you ever thought about trying to grow a Giant Pumpkin (Atlantic Giant)? BigPumpkins.com Home Page
LOL........Home, I have enough problem picking up and moving around the melons we DO grow, much less a giant one or two or three. But in all honesty, YES, I'd love to win BIGGEST of SHOW! LOL.
Hey Home, what do you do besides eat good and tend to your garden?
Try to keep Mrs. Gnome happy...
I do quite a bit of GnomeBrewing.
Closing in on 1,000 gallons of beer that I've made.
Been at it for a bit over 10 years now.
All grain.
Spent mash (grains) go into the compost pile and the worms absolutely love the stuff.
Good morning all. I guess the foursies won it last night. Congrats! Thanks again to those that rec'd Firefox. There was adware attached to my IE that was slowing my browser down considerably and making it crash. Nothing I used got rid of it but Firefox is working great and no adware.
Morning Kristina...........the Mrs has 4-days now (at a fam lounge) and she loves it - kinda like "old man daycare" serving beers and stuff......and no fistfights ever break out at lunch between two 75-year olds........LOL
It's usually still wet from making wort.
I'd say it has the consistency of wet, crushed grain.
There's usually not much "water" left in it as it's been run off to make your wort.
Seriously, you just "mash" your crushed grain in 154F (this is my all purpose mash temp but it varies) for about 60 mins.
I have a 10 gallon Rubbermaid cooler set that I purchased from morebeer(dot)com for my mash tun and sparge tank.
I usually brew 10 gallon batches but sometimes I'll make a 5 gallon batch (Barleywines/ Imperial Stouts).
My cost per bottle (although I have been using 5 gallon kegs for quite awhile) is under .75.
Always chuckle to myself when I hear folks talking about the $5 bottles of Imperial Stout at the store...
I've heard that cows do love spent mash grain.
Are you thinking of a new hobby, BSR?
Alright, got to run.
Mrs Gnome and I have a full day today.
LOL BSR that is basically how my lounge is during the day. I love my old men. They tell some great stories and they always tip well. Most of mine are retired military down here in Florida. We have a book trading club and we also trade veggies and plants.
@curious: "The handling of AIG's contract is what convinced me that the taxpayers and Congress are being played as fools...."
I lose it when Liddy says it's the best we can do and we won't come back for more and Congress says well just don't do it again. Over and over. But I'm still betting AIG will be turned inside out the next round of bailouts.
I'm sure all the people delaying retirement until their 80s think it's a fun game.
that guy deserves a job with the UST.
This comment got pigged on the prior thread, but it fits better here anyways:
I just read Doug Noland's latest Credit Bubble Bulletin at PrudentBear.com:
PrudentBear
I wish I could square Doug's comments with David Tice's repeated assertion that the US equity markets will shortly resume their crash. Doug seems to be sayinig that reflation is the new dynamic. Doug and David both represent Prudent Bear, which is a fund that bets against US stocks. I guess it's all about the timing, but they seem to be expressing different opinions on that topic.
Maybe inflation and deflation are perfectly balanced.
Kind of like flipping a coin and having it land on its edge. Hey, it could happen.
Ah, Nemo's first again. All is right in the CR world.
think about what "equity" in this environment actually means and where ROI would have to come from.
the painting The Money Game is not bad but is a bit derivative of the scuola metafisica art movement made famous by De Chirico with a touch of Jeff Koons thrown in...
"Maybe inflation and deflation are perfectly balanced."
that's only because the PPT managed to goose crude and stocks in the last few months. remove that prop, and the dynamic is 100% deflationary.
Zions Unit Buys Vineyard Deposits as Four Lenders are Shuttered
Zions Unit Buys Vineyard Deposits as Four Lenders are Shuttered - Bloomberg.com
By Ari Levy and Margaret Chadbourn
July 18 (Bloomberg) -- Zions Bancorporation’s California Bank & Trust unit acquired the deposits of Vineyard Bank, one of four lenders seized yesterday by regulators. The failures will cost the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. a total of $1.09 billion. California Bank & Trust in San Diego said it assumed $1.5 billion in deposits and $1.4 billion in loans from Rancho Cucamonga, California-based Vineyard, which lost more than $100 million last year as builders defaulted on construction loans. Vineyard was closed by the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency and the FDIC was named receiver, the FDIC said in a statement. The FDIC entered a loss-sharing transaction with California Bank & Trust on the acquired assets. The regulator will also share losses on $1.3 billion of assets related to the seizure yesterday of Temecula Valley Bank in Temecula, California, which was shuttered by the state’s regulator.
The Montage Art of Winston Smith
his stuff was fun in the 80s, probably the best of that photocopier school.
Cheaper Mortgages Spark Lower FICO Scores for Payers (Update1)
Cheaper Mortgages Spark Lower FICO Scores for Payers (Update1)
By Alexis Leondis
July 17 (Bloomberg) -- Victor Stern thought his money troubles were over when he got approval to modify his home loan. Then his credit score dropped 121 points. Stern, a business development director at an information technology company in Charlotte, North Carolina, said he was shocked to see his credit score drop to 619 from 740 after entering the trial period for a loan adjustment under President Barack Obama’s Home Affordable Modification Program. A salary reduction caused him to seek a change in the terms of his loan before he missed any payments.
Trying to reconcile these two statements:
"This images is of a five foot by seven and a half foot oil painting."
"Here's the finished painting! I just had it scanned to get this very crisp image! I love it!"
I'm thinking Senor Salvador Dali is proud right now... or his heirs are thinking up copyright infringement suits... lol
Zions Unit Buys Vineyard Deposits
I'd put Zions itself on the BFF short list.
robert williams
http://www.supertouchart.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/robertwilliams4.jpg
my favorite pop surreal guy
Survival School
Survival School - CNBC
Published: Friday, 17 Jul 2009 | 1:52 PM ET
By: Sara Behuneck
It's a sticky Saturday morning and I'm handcuffed in the back seat of a Jeep Grand Cherokee parked on the side of a Philadelphia street. On one side of me is my boyfriend, Bruce, and on the other his best friend, Nick. Both of them are also cuffed—and like me, sweating like pigs. I reach into my hair and pull out a bobby pin that within seconds I've fashioned into a simple device I use to jimmy open my handcuff locks. Our assignment now is to evade 12 professionally trained trackers in a 25-square-block area for the next eight hours. It may be hard to believe, but we asked for this. Actually, we paid for it: $550 apiece.
Today is the final day of a three-day "Urban Escape and Evade" course offered by onPoint Tactical LLC, a New Jersey-based company that teaches soldiers, police officers, and, increasingly, civilians urban survival skills. Among the lessons we've learned are how to break through zip ties and telephone cords (the most common materials used as binding by kidnappers), smash a car window without making a sound, pick tumbler- and padlocks, puncture the tires of a pursuit vehicle with homemade caltrops, call for help using a ham radio, kill an attack dog—and, of course, how to escape from handcuffs (see a video here). To make today's exercise even more difficult, we've been assigned a variety of missions that will test our newfound prowess in urban tactical maneuvering.
CR:
just found this very amusing animated cartoon about Goldman Sachs...
Goldman Sachs to Jobless Jack | Mark Fiore's Animated Cartoon Site
...
IMO, worth watching... (sorry if already posted)
The days they fly and a year ago...
"It's FDIC, so who gives a damn?"
by Tanta on 7/17/2008 08:43:00 AM
Calculated Risk: "It's FDIC, so who gives a damn?"
Was this originally an animation cell from Alice in wonderland?
(CIT was guud to me taday 82% in a quick flip, now, let the folks go BK)
From the WSJ: Earnings Uptick Lifts Confidence
"Stock Market Soars for the Week as Early Corporate Reports Handily Beat Estimates"
Despite the headline and subtitle, the article is actually quite good. It's balanced, pointing out that companies are beating very low analyst estimates. (FYI, ComstockFunds.com quotes the most recent estimate earnings for this quarter at a pathetic $6.50...how do they not beat those expectations!?).
It also points out this important fact:
Companies such as IBM still are reporting declining sales from a year ago, so that their profit gains are based more on cost-cutting than on a real improvement in the market.
Earnings Uptick Lifts Confidence - WSJ.com
Erin is hotter..
Bartiromo or Burnett: Who will be No. 1 at CNBC?
CNBC 'Money Honey': Bartiromo or Burnett? Jon Friedman's Media Web - MarketWatch
By Jon Friedman, MarketWatch
NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- Who will be CNBC's No. 1 anchor, Maria Bartiromo or Erin Burnett? If they were pitted against one another in a prize fight, the announcer would hail Bartiromo as the defending champion while trumpeting Burnett as the No. 1 contender for the throne. Beyond the gossip angle, the answer to the question will go a long way toward determining the direction and tone of CNBC's news coverage.
So did the hindenburg..
//"Stock Market Soars for the Week as Early Corporate Reports Handily Beat Estimates"//
One more vote for Erin Burnett. Frosh.
Look at the picture in this article
International Man of Economics, Baby
Random Roger: International Man of Economics, Baby
Yesterday's mid day lift was credited to Nouriel Roubini's having said the worst was behind us. Later he backed away some from those comments, you can read that here. Before I get into this I am hesitant to be overly reliant on explanations for why the market does anything. Taleb has written about this and I tend to agree with him. That sort of analysis is right except for when it is wrong, if you take my meaning.
In the above link from Roubini he talks about his having expected the recession to be 24 months which means it would end at the end of this year so nothing new there. Additionally he says there will be slow growth coming out with a high risk of a double dip in late 2010 and unemployment peaking at 11% in 2010.
HH: didn't have to google him, but did so just to make sure it was really he who zapped me-- nice to see that Robert Williams has developed and persevered. His current style flashed me back to some wild times in the seventies…..
Almost time for "The Soup" in PDT. The best show on TV.
SlOw TyPing. Too much
Lothar,
I don't see Dali all that much, it doesn't quite make it in Surrealism... the lighting scheme on the man is pure De Chirico... and the smiling flying pigs is Koons... (disclaimer: I have Jeff Koon's email and perhaps I'll try to get his take), EDIT
as if he had time for me
the painters use of perspective in the foreground, middle ground and background reminds of someone
else but I can't make the match...
This chart speaks for me -- with S&P down 50% and CIT down almost 100% (in two years). Jobless recovery will fix all this and more!
Invalid Ticker Symbol - Yahoo! Finance
No, no, no, this is better, CIT, AIG and GM and The S&P:
Invalid Ticker Symbol - Yahoo! Finance
No, this looks better, AIG, C, BAC, GM, CIT and S&P.
Invalid Ticker Symbol - Yahoo! Finance
Ok, sorry, goodnight
yeah, his style has aged well... but the american Id is a pretty solid natural resource
the painters use of perspective in the foreground, middle ground and background reminds of someone
else but I can't make the match...
Grant Wood's rolling Iowa farmland?
HH: my american Id is pretty diluted by time and distance, but I'll take your word for it!
I don't understand how stimulus funds are being allocated. Of concern to me are that HHS, SSA and DOL are way ahead as far as spending what has been allocated to them. Seems to be a sign of stress on the social services to me. Looking at the recovery.gov site; most of the payments have come from those agencies... I figure they must be way ahead of what their spending plan was.
eg
Bollwitts in Iowa – Like a Grant Wood Painting »
Vancouver Blog Miss 604 by Rebecca Bollwitt
"I figure they must be way ahead of what their spending plan was. "
Ah, good old HHS. how many folks are taking their first SS payment earlier than expected? MUCH earlier?
59.5 is the new 70 for the unemployed...
thier back
calif lawmakers close to striking deal..
Yahoo! 404 - Page Not Found
how many times before close means done..
Panel Probing Financial Crisis Has Wall Street Ties
Panel Probing Financial Crisis Has Wall Street Ties - WSJ.com
By JOHN D. MCKINNON
WASHINGTON -- Two appointees to a congressional panel investigating the financial crisis work for law firms that represent either Wall Street or its antagonists, raising concerns about the commission's impartiality and likely effectiveness. Congressional leaders earlier this week announced their choices for the 10-member Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission, a panel that has drawn comparisons to the Pecora Commission that investigated the stock-market crash of 1929. Its mission is to explore the causes of the crisis, as well as the collapse of specific Wall Street firms.
Some congressional observers are already predicting it could be bogged down by philosophical divides between its pro-consumer and pro-business wings. A nonpartisan watchdog group, the Center for Responsive Politics, released a report Friday saying that some appointees gave substantial amounts in campaign contributions, many of them to Democrats.
nemo & retirement - it's a double- edged sword, nemo. We all die anyway. The promise of retirement carries its own chains. If it is a lie and you perceive the lie, you have more freedom now than others.
I suppose I like gay/alt bars more now because they, like me, don't take the mating game so seriously. It's often a ridiculous place, full of laughter. I broke my rule tonight and downed two rum & cokes. I have about $30k in tax refunds coming, my sister the CPA and my cousin the prosecuting attorney have been cheated so spectacularly by the "smart" people of the US but they worked miracles for me. I owe them big- time.
Women like gay/ alt bars, too. Probably for the same reasons.
Lucifer, you really need to do a search & destroy mission to find that rare exceptional one. You may not succeed but you should at least try so that you have ammuntition when you're confronted by your future self.
Now excuse while I fend off Miss 25yo student.
Broward for Congress, he's a natural.
Errr, maybe Broward for congress (the other one people are always talking about), he's still a natural.
Robert Reich seems to have joined the bandwagon re Goldman:
"The resurgence of JPMorgan and Goldman Sachs gives both banks more financial clout than any other players on the Street -- allowing both firms to lure talent from everywhere else on the Street with multi-million pay packages, giving both firms enough economic power to charge clients whopping fees, and bestowing on both firms even more political heft in Washington.
Where are the antitrusters when we need them? Alternatively, why isn't the government charging Goldman and JPMorgan a large insurance fee for classifying both firms as "too big to fail" and therefore automatically bailed out if the risks they take turn sour? Instead, we've ended up with two giants that now have most of the casino to themselves, are playing with poker chips backed by taxpayers, and have a big say in what the rules of the game are to be."
Maybe he's looking for a White House dinner invite...
Ken: I'm on Firefox 3.5 and it gives me error if I take the poll of the sidebar version. However, when I click to the poll link and then vote on the poll page itself, I'm able to register my vote.
Nice idea. I'm all for any user to create a poll. I think that ignore should work for polls too. If I put a person on ignore, I shouldn't see that person's poll either.
Being able to comment on a poll might be interesting, too.
Thanks again for your hard work Ken!
broward,
I will not accept two things
Escorts are cheaper (total cost of service, no strings, no games) and I can get any age/ look/ service combination I want.. and change it on my whims.
Once you decide, based on evidence, that people are treating you poorly in your prime.. you become very intolerant of anyone who shows even a trace of that attitude. You stop seeing them as human.. and that is irreversible.
Watch your back broward; she could be a he! Not that there's anything wrong with that...
Danny: Have you upgraded to firefox 3.5.1?
They claim to have patched some stability and security issues.
This is too perfect.
1. Not being able to live as I choose to, and do what i want to..
OK, so you are unfit for any long term relationship with anybody for any purpose. And this is the fault of women?
2. A woman saying or hinting that she is doing a favor by sleeping with a non-white man.
So you always sleep with white women? And they have all looked down upon you? (Not counting the escorts - you are a transaction to them.)
This is your basis of putting down all women?
You are insane.
Ken; You going to be able to screen out "popularity" polls? I'm thinking of those that would make one make one of the users the subject. Or maybe we can just all agree to be grown-ups about this,...
Nope.. I have seen that attitude in non-white women too..
I think people get what they deserve, they have made their choice.. I have made mine. Let's see how it works out.
//So you always sleep with white women? //
Actually I forgot I upgraded to 3.5.1. So, few more details: I'm on Vista 32 bit Home. I have Norton Anti-Virus.
Edit: and I have all the patches (SP2, etc.) which are required by Microsoft....
Why would I want to compromise for a group that has not shown any evidence of 'quid pro quo'
//OK, so you are unfit for any long term relationship with anybody for any purpose. And this is the fault of women?//
The Acquisitors like Paulson can't grasp people who don't seek money bcause money is the holiest of holies.
The Paulsons of the world delude themslves into measuring themselves and others by piles of money and that's why they accomplish nothing of great value in the end. Even Bill Gates figured that out. But not the GS weenies, they're far too clever to do something of value.
bobn,
On a related note, why would a young non-white care about a system that does not reward him. The US is much better than other countries in this respect, but seriously- most of the western world cannot expect their poorly treated immigrants to give a fk about them when they are old. It does not matter whether they were born in those countries or not- western europe is so fked!
nemo & retirement - it's a double- edged sword, nemo. We all die anyway. The promise of retirement carries its own chains. If it is a lie and you perceive the lie, you have more freedom now than others.
If I had a dollar for all the people who tell me they are putting off retirement due to 'conditions' I'd be able to retire now.
Some lost their ass in the markets... some saw their careers derail... most though just didn't see time sneaking up on them and they didn't prepare... that has been happening forever.
In most cases they really do have enough to retire IF they downsize appropriately - that means downsize A LOT. Virtually disappear. If they could get that small more than a few could retire now at 40, 50, whatever. But they have to really go underground and they can't do it - ego won't let them disappear.
So they keep slogging. If you enjoy the slog [I mostly do] then no problem... but I don't hear many people saying they enjoy the march. Too bad really - the money alone is never worth it.
dryfly,
I think you still live in the 1920s.. we cannot downsize because in a post-industrial society almost all jobs are non-essential. Even the essential jobs depend on the non-essential workers having money to spend.
Morgan Stanley to Get Top Underwriting Role on AIG Share Sales
Morgan Stanley to Get Top Underwriting Role on AIG Share Sales - Bloomberg.com
By Hugh Son and Zachary R. Mider
July 18 (Bloomberg) -- Morgan Stanley, the world’s third- biggest stock underwriter, won a lead role from the Federal Reserve Bank of New York in arranging initial public offerings of American International Group Inc. units. Morgan Stanley, which is advising the New York Fed on its bailout of AIG, will reap fees from the IPO’s and from sales of other units to buyers, according to documents the agency posted on its Web site yesterday. The bank gets an initial $4 million payment and $2.5 million a quarter for its advisory role.
Hevesi Donor’s Selection Spotlights Pay-to-Play at Pension Fund
Hevesi Donor’s Selection Spotlights Pay-to-Play at Pension Fund - Bloomberg.com
By Karen Freifeld
July 18 (Bloomberg) -- EnTrust Capital Inc., a hedge-fund firm whose founders contributed to the campaign of New York Comptroller Alan Hevesi, received millions of dollars of pension money to invest while he was running the state retirement fund, public records show. Hevesi’s staff suggested the state use EnTrust to invest its money, according to Consulting Services Group LLC, a company hired to vet and choose firms. EnTrust was one of 50 firms recommended by the fund in 2006 and 2007 to CSG and one of 15 firms chosen, said a person familiar with the matter. EnTrust’s vetting was a priority, a person familiar with the process said.
sweet Johhny it was a four bagger.
Buckingham Green
Ween smokes a
For my grandfather, retirement meant a handshake and a gold watch.
The current definition of retirement was invented by Wall Street and designed to part unsuspecting individuals and their money.
SEIU Local 1000 calls for strike vote
404 - Not Found - sacbee.com
By Jon Ortiz
Last Modified: Friday, Jul. 17, 2009 - 9:40 pm
California's biggest public employee union, sensing that its members are angry and ready to act on it, has called for a strike authorization vote that if supported would give the union's leaders the authority to call for workplace actions up to and including a walkout. Service Employees International Union Local 1000 plans to mail the ballots this afternoon. Members will have until July 31 to return their ballot. The union will announce the results a day or two later.
I do not think we can go back.. evolving systems are not reversible. Attempts to reverse them will cause catastrophic failure.
//For my grandfather, retirement meant a handshake and a gold watch//
Seducing 25yo women is easy.
Cheating people thru financial fraud is easy.
Even killing people is relatively easy.
The true consideration is the moral framework we adopt.
It can't be based on what others say or sign or agree to.
It has to based on what we ourselves know is true.
Unemployment in California (updated July 17)
Unemployment in California - Interactive Graphics - sacbee.com
I think you still live in the 1920s.. we cannot downsize because in a post-industrial society almost all jobs are non-essential. Even the essential jobs depend on the non-essential workers having money to spend.
No I live in the here and now.
The key is INDIVIDUALS would have to decide they are dropping out and not being an essential or non-essential. They would have to decide they are going to disappear.
I don't know what TPTB would do if a lot of people did that - but I don't expect a lot of people to do it so it won't be an issue - but an individual sure could... it isn't that hard once you decide to 'get small'.
BTW - there is a guy in my neighborhood who does this... lives in a very small 2BR older home paid for years ago... walks to work [doesn't own a car - doesn't have a DL in the freaking rural midwest!]. Walks to the grocery, shops, etc. Carries everything home by hand [that limits your buy for sure].
He is 'invisible'... economically speaking that is and totally okay with it. I chat with him almost everyday as he passes our house.
"I do not think we can go back"
If you'd ever played a country music record backwards, you'd know that the wife doesn't leave and the dog doesn't die.
broward,
It is much cheaper and easier to pay 200-300$/hr for MSOG (multiple shots on goal) with a 25 year old escort than "seduce" one.
It certainly does not help that any attempt to mention/hint at worth dependent on race to me will ensure that said person is verbally destroyed.
"it isn't that hard once you decide to 'get small'."
Dryfly is also a mind reader.
I sincerely believe that getting small is what it's now all about.
That is their greatest fear! they cannot be rich and safe if we become S. America. The only reason S.American elites can exploit their people is that the 'west' aids them and is their safe harbor. the elites in the west have no 'safe' harbor.
//I don't know what TPTB would do if a lot of people did that - but I don't expect a lot of people to do it so it won't be an issue - but an individual sure could... it isn't that hard once you decide to 'get small'.//
The current definition of retirement was invented by Wall Street and designed to part unsuspecting individuals and their money.
That and New Deal politicians to 'spread out the limited amount of work'...
They've got a little test they give you; it's a balloon, and if you can get inside of it, they know... you're small. And they can't put you in a regular cell either, because you walk right out
mp,
The economy is more like a child's brain or biological evolution.. you cannot reverse the changes without killing the system. Rats cannot me made into lampreys.
You have a better idea?
//That and New Deal politicians to 'spread out the limited amount of work'//
"...you cannot reverse the changes without killing the system."
Lucifer, the system isn't my problem. Not any more.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Let’s Get Small (1977) was an album by American comedian Steve Martin. It included Excuse Me, a comedy bit whose title went on to become a national catch phrase.
as long as you are on this earth, you are interacting with the system.. you may not be in the matrix, but you still have to deal with it.
//Lucifer, the system isn't my problem.//
"...and New Deal politicians to 'spread out the limited amount of work'"
Yes.
"System, meet Conjure"
{Conjure eat system}
So much for introductions.
"...you still have to deal with it."
True enough, but you can reduce your exposure, as dryfly says.
You have a better idea?
//That and New Deal politicians to 'spread out the limited amount of work'//
I intentionally did NOT make that statement a judgment call [should they or shouldn't they have done that, were they right or were they wrong to do so] - fact is they did it and it wasn't an afterthought, it was intentional.
It is an almost inevitable consequence of industrialization.
//fact is they did it and it wasn't an afterthought, it was intentional.//
"System, meet Conjure"
Yeah, well, in a manner of saying.
I guess.
mp,
but 'zions' very existence is one of the side-effects of the 'matrix' existing in the first place.
You require 'hell' to have 'heaven' and vice versa. You require ignorance to have enlightenment.
mp:
the starched blue coverall wearing machinist. with a bald cat.
Broward:
the basement living bando meme denying the essence.
bobn:
the origninal "CRbot"
nemo:
proudest monkey.
.
Let’s Get Small (1977) was an album by American comedian Steve Martin. It included Excuse Me, a comedy bit whose title went on to become a national catch phrase.
I remember it well. And as a result 'get small' has a bit of a double entendre - one can have some fun 'getting small'.
G'night all.
bANK fAILURE,
I feel left out
bobn:
the origninal "CRbot"
No, that was Brian. I was bobnbot until an unfortunate cyber-psychotic episode required removal of my memory crystals.
bobn,
I think you can understand my point better if you consider this-
Why would a person, who understands that the system is rigged against him, help maintain it?
"...with a bald cat."
Huh?
82 ignores 26.
when you get late in the evening dreaming of things.....
nova:
after the crash takedown.
citizen allenM
someday this wars gonna end.
Sebastian:
Wright B
crispy&cole
always against the grain.
LawyerLiz:
---thisis the 1 to watch...mommy came home, money has to move...a condo in the future.
the stories in the comments are all here.. we are in the utter failure of housing, and that means housing is the buy. Real Tangible things....
mp,
my conjure has a BLANUS.
"and that means housing is the buy"
i think you're about 15 years early on that call...
BF,
Remember Neil's? How about dotcommunist's?
"my conjure has a BLANUS. "
Sorry to hear that.
(My response was delayed because I had to look that one up.)
If GD1 & Japan's 90-to-present-so-far are any indicator, waiting merely 15 years may be a bit optimistic to buy a home....
I see massive boomer capitulation in terms of housing circa 2025. Geithner will be turning 64 that year. Those last few boomers ('58-'61) are the stupidest and dullest of that cohort, and will cling the longest to the illusion.
This is good..
CIT’s Peek May Be Paid Ahead of Treasury in Case of Bankruptcy
CIT’s Peek May Be Paid Ahead of Treasury in Case of Bankruptcy - Bloomberg.com
By Linda Shen
July 18 (Bloomberg) -- CIT Group Inc. Chief Executive Officer Jeffrey Peek, under whose leadership the lender’s stock has plunged 98 percent, may be in line ahead of the U.S. government to be paid if CIT files for bankruptcy protection. Peek is owed $14.7 million if he’s terminated or there’s a change of control at CIT. A compensation claim would put him ahead of shareholders -- including the U.S. Treasury -- in the event of liquidation, Scott Peltz, managing director of the corporate restructuring group at RSM McGladrey, said in an interview.
Australia Export Prices Plunge at Record Pace in Q2
Australia Export Prices Plunge at Record Pace in Q2 - Australia and New Zealand * Asia * News * Story - CNBC.com
Published: Friday, 17 Jul 2009 | 12:39 AM ET
Australia's export prices slumped at a record pace last quarter and threatening to drag on the economy in coming months, providing one reason for interest rates to stay at record lows for some time to come.
Drama queen..
Farrell: Et Tu, Nouriel?
Farrell: Et Tu, Nouriel? - CNBC
Published: Friday, 17 Jul 2009 | 10:07 AM ET
By: Vince Farrell
First it was the Divine Miss M with a few kind words a couple of days ago when she recommended Goldman Sachs [GS 156.84 --- UNCH ]. Then there was a report Thursday afternoon that the renowned bear, Nouriel Roubini, had a more gentle view of the world. That gave the market an excuse to rally when it was having trouble with JP Morgan's [JPM 36.89 0.76 (+2.1%) ] earnings report and some positive news regarding unemployment claims.
The pony blog..
ABOUT THIS BLOG
This recession has given us a lot to cry about – lost jobs, lost homes, crushed 401(k)s and ravaged financial markets. It’s times like these that you need a laugh most. So, we created the Pony blog and sent out our crack reporter, Cindy Perman, to try to find a few laughs amid the rubble. The blog’s name comes from an old joke, a favorite of Ronald Reagan’s, that essentially means, with a pile of you-know-what this big, there MUST be a pony—a bright side—in here somewhere!
Pony in Here Somewhere Blog - CNBC.com
Unfortunately, it was probably my fault that talk of ponies first appeared on this blog.
That was several years ago.
And thus followed the ugly "pony recipes" thread.
mp,
The CNBC hack stole your idea.
"The CNBC hack stole your idea."
They are welcome to it. Anyway, everyone knows that every little girl or boy wants a pony.
Different date; same story, 2007, 2008, 2009 @ Calculated Risk its all blending together. I can't remember a time when most people here weren't cynical about our financial future. I guess its only been since about late 2008 when the bailouts started; thats less than a year ago. Yet it seems like such a long time. I'm gonna have to walk through the archives to figure out when we entered this haze. I suppose its funny looking at this all in hindsight.
Example: Lehman to Offer $3B in Convertible Preferreds
Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. ... is selling at least $3 billion of new shares to U.S. institutions to reassure investors it has ample access to capital.
I have lurking around since 2005-2006.. though I used to come here a few times a week instead of every day. I have aways been cynical...
// I can't remember a time when most people here weren't cynical about our financial future. //
Or maybe this one, March 18, 2008 Goldman Sachs ... is selling Chrysler LLC debt for less than 80 cents on the dollar ...
Also; something from Larry Summers: Mr. Summers ... said federal housing and mortgage policy is "behind the curve." He said the focus on adjustable rate mortgages which are resetting is misplaced; lower interest rates ameliorate that. He estimated 30% of homes with mortgages -- about 15 million in all -- are likely to be worth less than their mortgages. He argued foreclosures are enormously costly and destroy value and thus should be prevented as much as possible. He also said estimates that the housing and mortgage bust will reach $400 billion are likely to be "substantially optimistic".
"I can't remember a time when most people here weren't cynical about our financial future."
Don't worry, it's going to get worse.
In the short run, I'm optimistic. In the long run, I'm not.
trader walt, May 2008 in one of the oil-spike threads:
Maybe OT,
I worked for a Harvard trained oil lease broker once. He liked to describe how the majors would flood the market with crude, time and again, and squeeze the wildcatters by busting the crude price from $10 to $1/barrel. Then they would buy production from the wildcatters before cutting back production again. Now,it seems, by limiting crude production and raising the price, the squeezing is moving down stream affecting the refiners (and end users- us!)
Another point, don't tell me about OPEC's dwindling reserves. Tom, the lease broker (and producer), convinced me long ago that cartel members and the majors have little incentive to report accurate data information. Think about how much oil the majors say they have stored in Nigeria or the dimensions of on oil field there. Who is going to go there and check - Deloitte?
Remember, an oil well is a hole in the ground owned by a liar.
quote of a quote quoting Krugman on oil:
"One of the things I find puzzling about the whole oil market discussion is how complicated people seem to make it. They get all wrapped up in stuff about forward markets, hedge funds, etc., and lose sight of the fundamental fact that there are only two things you can do with the worlds oil production: consume it, or store it.
If the price is above the level at which the demand from end-users is equal to production, theres an excess supply and that supply has to be going into inventories. End of story. If oil isnt building up in inventories, there cant be a bubble in the spot price.
...you have to believe that 2 million barrels a day is disappearing into secret hoards somewhere secret, because its not showing up in the OECD inventory data. Thats a lot of oil. And bear in mind that people have been claiming that theres an oil bubble for years.
So my challenge to people who say theres an oil bubble is this: lets get physical. Tell me where you think the excess supply of crude is going.
Have no idea why my characters are displayed incrrectlyh here...
From August 2007: US consumers are defaulting on credit-card payments at a significantly higher rate than last year ...
Rinse repeat in 2008, and 2009!
"From August 2007..."
How about November 22, 2007? Conjure Bag declares bull market in equities over.
Conjure bag was recently a question to a jeopardy answer (~ 3 mo?). It was in the $1k row, I knew it immediately.... they were probably looking for mojo bag.
I can't remember a time when most people here weren't cynical about our financial future.
The US by and large is still in the first stage of Denial. We're making noises like we're moving into Bargaining, but still have yet to see true Anger. I guess we'll have to see a Depression before we can Accept what happened and try to move forward.
"The US by and large is still in the first stage of Denial."
I would say that the American public is in a state of collective "Huh?"
Most still don't have a clue.
Good night, everyone.
"Most still don't have a clue."
Many of the American business people I speak with are keen to position themselves for the rebound they anticipate as faithfully as tomorrow's dawn. This they may get in the intermediate.
Night, mp.
Via John Robb's site, Interesting analysis on getting small (or local) regarding food supply in Blighty:
Sustainable Frome, town in transition :: Site / ENERGYDESCENTACTIONPLAN
Anticipates 80% non-imports, excluding spices, coffee, chocolate and the like, for which people will pay a premium. Blueberries from Chile? Not so much.
Lucifer's point that an evolving system can't reverse itself is a good one.
What happens instead is (according to Tainter and history) that a system grown too complex to be efficient collapses into smaller entities, and these are actually more efficient that the larger one.
Them pigs are kosher.
"it isn't that hard once you decide to 'get small'."
It isn't that small once you decide to get hard.
Double mitzvah on Shabbat, baby.
don't quite understand that Polling idea... and am a bit concerned
that so far the votes lean toward Polls created by CR & designates...
constructing a proper poll is an art in itself, during the 2004 Prez election
I was on a team whose primary goal was to predict the Nov. 2004 election results
30 days before that event... our chief public competitor was a Prof at Yale...
I spent weeks reading about 50 years of polling data, not to mention jobs data, etc,
and trying to fit it to our model...
IMHO it doesn't sound like a great idea to me... the last thing we need here is
a Supreme Council (don't get me started on the idiocy of the Ignore User feature...
a) it's fascist, for one b) it creates a disequilibrium of fairness [as I understand it
someone turns me off in the dark of night and I still must be subject to their
incisive and cogent thoughts or their opposite?]
... anyone for term limits on how long a User can remain on CR?
AIG disaster: (Duh, you stupid Congressclowns, we told you so)
Bloomberg, July 17:
“For counterparties to voluntarily terminate those contracts makes no sense,” Havens said in an interview. “There’s no question that asset values have soured on a global basis. With the faith and credit of the U.S. government backing those guarantees, why would they give that up?”
The falling value of holdings backed by the swaps may force AIG to post more collateral, pressuring the insurer’s liquidity and credit ratings in a repeat of the cycle that caused the firm’s near collapse in September, Citigroup Inc. analyst Joshua Shanker said last week. The insurer needed a U.S. bailout valued at $182.5 billion after handing over collateral on a different book of swaps backing U.S. subprime mortgages....
Last month, AIG said in a regulatory filing that it may be at risk for losses for “significantly longer than anticipated” if the banks don’t terminate their swaps.
‘Plea for Help’
“Given the size of the credit exposure, a decline in the fair value of this portfolio could have a material adverse effect on AIG’s consolidated results,” the company said in the June 29 filing.
The Securities and Exchange Commission asked for AIG to add the disclosure to the insurer’s “risk factors,” Herr said. The action wasn’t prompted by any change in the securities backed by the swaps, he said.
Collateral Damage
Counterparties terminated or allowed to expire $27.8 billion in the so-called regulatory relief swaps in the first quarter, and AIG got notice for another $16.6 billion in terminations through April 30, the firm said. Some of the remaining swaps have suffered losses, and AIG posted $1.2 billion in collateral as of the first quarter.
“You’ll have an increasingly toxic pool of credit-default swaps every quarter” as the least risky swaps are terminated, said Donn Vickrey, analyst at research firm Gradient Analytics Inc. “Swaps that are being held are done so for two reasons, either for regulatory relief or because they’re ‘in the money’” which means they are valuable hedges against asset declines.
AIG has recognized that some of the swaps are no longer being held for regulatory relief. The insurer reclassified $3 billion in swaps through March 31 that are likely to be kept after the regulatory benefit expires, AIG said. The firm had a $393 million liability on those swaps....
Prime Mortgages
The $192.6 billion figure for the swaps includes $99.4 billion tied to corporate loans and $90.2 billion linked to prime residential mortgages, the insurer said.
“The sheer size of the portfolio and the ‘black box’ nature of its underlying loans and assets do little to calm fears of further CDS losses,” Shanker said in the July 8 research note. “Potential markdowns in the regulatory CDS portfolio may result in collateral calls that would again put pressure on AIG’s liquidity.”
The government’s rescue includes a $60 billion credit line, $52.5 billion to buy mortgage-linked assets owned or insured by the company, and an investment of as much as $70 billion. AIG plans to reduce its debt under the credit line by $25 billion by handing over stakes in two non-U.S. life insurance units, the insurer said last month. AIG has tapped about $43 billion from the line as of July 15. "
F#@$%% Ass$%#%
anyone here follow ZeroHedge? I guess Blog, their hosting site has received a number of complaints about

intellectual property rights violation... or at least that's what Tyler Durden says in his ineffable style. (I wonder if
one had to do with his use of the name...)
Interesting article in Advance Trading mag. 'The Real Story of Trading Software Espionage The Real Story of Trading Software Espionage by Advanced Trading
For example, high frequency trading firms, which represent approximately 2% of the 20,000 or so trading firms operating in the US markets today, account for 73% of all US equity trading volume. These companies include proprietary trading desks for a small number of major investment banks, less than 100 of the most sophisticated hedge funds and hundreds of the most secretive prop shops, all of which operate with one thing in mind—capture profit opportunities by being smarter and faster than the closest competition.
Morning all!
Four Bank Failures yesterday.
Here's a list of the winners of the 2nd BFF poll:





Black Star Ranch
Rob Dawg
yagij
WoofusMaximus
JP
Kung.Fu.Panda
Looks like next week we'll all be polling via Ken/ CR's new poll interface.
Have a great Saturday.
@yogi
F#@$%% Ass$%#%
Well said. The handling of AIG's contract is what convinced me that the taxpayers and Congress are being played as fools. The parties involved know exactly what they've done in the past to make this all happen and what they are doing to try to get themselves out of it. And yet we taxpayers who are trying to pay attention seem powerless to stop it.
July 18 (Bloomberg) -- CIT Group Inc. Chief Executive Officer Jeffrey Peek, under whose leadership the lender’s stock has plunged 98 percent, may be in line ahead of the U.S. government to be paid if CIT files for bankruptcy protection.
Peek is owed $14.7 million if he’s terminated or there’s a change of control at CIT. A compensation claim would put him ahead of shareholders -- including the U.S. Treasury -- in the event of liquidation, Scott Peltz, managing director of the corporate restructuring group at RSM McGladrey, said in an interview.
CIT’s Peek May Be Paid Ahead of Treasury in Case of Bankruptcy - Bloomberg.com
continued: the article goes on to say:
" To realize any real benefit from implementing these strategies, a trading firm must have a real-time, colocated, high-frequency trading platform—one where data is collected, and orders are created and routed to execution venues in sub-millisecond times."
... and this idea of 'colocated'
I wonder what if any colocation the exchanges are offering. Does that mean Goldman has done a reverse elvis? (my own pet theory is that they have tunneled under the exchange and are wired up to the hardware above, devilishly clever. Nothing like shaving off a few millisecond hops. )
Duke,
I agree that Goldman is probably wired in directly; but what do I know; I'm just a Gnome.
And a HomeGnome at that.
Have you posted any videos of you or your bodyguards shooting off rockets?
FRANKFURT (Reuters) - Porsche SE's controlling families will agree on Thursday to accept an offer by Volkswagen to buy its sports car business Porsche AG for roughly 8 billion euros ($11.28 billion), Der Spiegel reported on Saturday.
Germany's leading weekly magazine wrote that the rival Porsche and Piech clans, which own 100 percent of Porsche SE votes, will approve the two-stage takeover at a supervisory board meeting on July 23.
VW to pay $11.28 billion for all of Porsche: report
| Reuters
Think your tomatoes are the best in Sacramento? You can prove it at the Great Tomato Contest, part of this weekend's California State Home & Garden Show at the Sacramento Convention Center, 13th and J streets.
Hosted by the California Garden Clubs' Kids Growing Strong program, the tomato contest will be at 1 p.m. today, with categories for best-tasting, biggest and ugliest. Registration forms and rules:www.calstatehomeshow. com.
Admission is $8 general, free for ages 16 and under.
.......we put some of our stuff through the local County Fair growers gig, and talk about a major pain in the ass - the old gals act like old guys shouldn't even be allowed to walk thru the hallowed exhibit halls!.....LOL.......(our relish DID win the Blue Ribbon a couple of years ago tho)
The vegetable, fruit and animal exhibits are the ONLY reason that I go to the South Carolina State Fair.


Well, that and watching 400+lb. human bovines suck down fried dough and 60 oz. Cokes...
BSR, have you ever thought about trying to grow a Giant Pumpkin (Atlantic Giant)?
BigPumpkins.com Home Page
and nice work on the blue ribbon relish!
LOL........Home, I have enough problem picking up and moving around the melons we DO grow, much less a giant one or two or three. But in all honesty, YES, I'd love to win BIGGEST of SHOW! LOL.
Hey Home, what do you do besides eat good and tend to your garden?
Try to keep Mrs. Gnome happy...

I do quite a bit of GnomeBrewing.
Closing in on 1,000 gallons of beer that I've made.
Been at it for a bit over 10 years now.
All grain.
Spent mash (grains) go into the compost pile and the worms absolutely love the stuff.
Good morning all. I guess the foursies won it last night. Congrats! Thanks again to those that rec'd Firefox. There was adware attached to my IE that was slowing my browser down considerably and making it crash. Nothing I used got rid of it but Firefox is working great and no adware.
No kidding. What is the consistency of the "leftover" spent mash? I hear chickens and cows LOVE it.
Morning Kristina...........the Mrs has 4-days now (at a fam lounge) and she loves it - kinda like "old man daycare" serving beers and stuff......and no fistfights ever break out at lunch between two 75-year olds........LOL
Tiger Woods misses the cut at the British Open while 59-year old Tom Watson is tied for the lead!
YES! Score one for the Boomers!
It's usually still wet from making wort.

I'd say it has the consistency of wet, crushed grain.
There's usually not much "water" left in it as it's been run off to make your wort.
Seriously, you just "mash" your crushed grain in 154F (this is my all purpose mash temp but it varies) for about 60 mins.
I have a 10 gallon Rubbermaid cooler set that I purchased from morebeer(dot)com for my mash tun and sparge tank.
I usually brew 10 gallon batches but sometimes I'll make a 5 gallon batch (Barleywines/ Imperial Stouts).
My cost per bottle (although I have been using 5 gallon kegs for quite awhile) is under .75.
Always chuckle to myself when I hear folks talking about the $5 bottles of Imperial Stout at the store...
I've heard that cows do love spent mash grain.
Are you thinking of a new hobby, BSR?
Alright, got to run.
Mrs Gnome and I have a full day today.
LOL BSR that is basically how my lounge is during the day. I love my old men. They tell some great stories and they always tip well. Most of mine are retired military down here in Florida. We have a book trading club and we also trade veggies and plants.
@curious: "The handling of AIG's contract is what convinced me that the taxpayers and Congress are being played as fools...."
I lose it when Liddy says it's the best we can do and we won't come back for more and Congress says well just don't do it again. Over and over. But I'm still betting AIG will be turned inside out the next round of bailouts.
That and New Deal politicians to 'spread out the limited amount of work