The advance number of actual initial claims under state programs, unadjusted, totaled 667,534 in the week ending July 11, an increase of 86,389 from the previous week. There were 483,981 initial claims in the comparable week in 2008.
The advance unadjusted insured unemployment rate was 4.6 percent during the week ending July 4, an increase of 0.1 percentage point from the prior week. The advance unadjusted number for persons claiming UI benefits in state programs totaled 6,135,066, an increase of 63,714 from the preceding week. A year earlier, the rate was 2.3 percent and the volume was 3,118,724.
The advance number of actual initial claims under state programs, unadjusted, totaled 667,534 in the week ending July 11, an increase of 86,389 from the previous week. There were 483,981 initial claims in the comparable week in 2008.
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- First-time claims for state unemployment benefits fell in the latest weekly data, after seasonal adjustment, because many expected manufacturing layoffs, mainly automotive, did not occur, the Labor Department said Thursday. The number of initial claims in the week ending July 11 fell 47,000 to 522,000 - the lowest level since early January. However, recent data is "clouded" by the timing of this year's layoffs, many of which have already occurred, according to a Labor Department analyst. Further, some layoffs may come later or not at all, and analysts expect several more weeks of volatility in the claims data due to layoff-timing issues.
"seasonally adjusted insured unemployment during the week ending July 4 was 6,273,000, a decrease of 642,000 from the preceding week's revised level of 6,915,000.' I'm exhausted by that.
NOTE: The seasonally adjusted weekly claims numbers are being impacted by the layoffs in the automobile industry and other manufacturing sectors. Usually companies cut back production in the summer, and the numbers are adjusted for that pattern - but this year the companies cut back much earlier. This distortion is expected to last for another week or two.
Listen. All we care about is the headline. I don't want no fancy "notes" or "addendums". I don't even want an article. Just tell me the number so that I can trade.
I knew there was a reason I only watched CNBC.
Hopefully in the future we can distill all this irritating news down to one word... "Buy".
I strongly disagree with your choice of headline CR.
In two weeks they start seasonally adjusting up instead of down--we'll see how things look then.
No. the Fed learned how to bail out "summer" so that it doesn't turn to "fall"
they've decided after last year's "winter" that "winter" will no longer be allowed to happen, and fall is just too close to winter. Plus, "fall" has a negative connotation and it is when Lehman... well... fell.
Thus, we shall stay in summer and spring only.
By the way for those of you who've been here for a while:
I am still a willing counterparty to Lehman Brothers across all lines of business.
I love this title:
"Orwellian accounting cannot damp economic cycles"
By Paul Boyle
Published: July 15 2009 19:36 | Last updated: July 15 2009 19:36
The financial crisis has generated a philosophical debate about the role of accounting, notably the extent to which it is pro-cyclical, exacerbating booms and busts.
It is clear that the financial sector has been badly damaged by the crisis and the risks of similar costs to the public purse occurring again should be minimised. However, it is not clear that accounting has the potential to be a public policy tool to reduce pro-cyclicality, nor that it would be appropriate to use it in this way.
I woke up with the last part of Kubla Khan banging around my head...seems about as appropriate as anything else..that or Ants Marching by Dave Matthews..
That with music loud and long,
I would build that dome in air,
That sunny dome ! those caves of ice !
And all who heard should see them there,
And all should cry, Beware ! Beware !
His flashing eyes, his floating hair !
Weave a circle round him thrice,
And close your eyes with holy dread,
For he on honey-dew hath fed,
And drunk the milk of Paradise.
Boyle: An equally, or perhaps even more, dangerous argument now gaining currency is that accounting should be given an explicit role in promoting financial stability, rather than its traditional role of providing information useful to investors in their decision-making. The implication of this view is that accounting measures that show volatility should be adjusted to create an impression of stability.
That reminds me of my 6/25 article:
"Confusing cause with consequence is like Homer Simpson using pliers to force the temperature-gauge needle to a safe reading even as the nuclear reactor melts down."
Purely anecdotal and not evidence of any recovery of the economy to previous boom status but one of our local employers is hiring 350 people to staff production lines. The rumor on the street is they are bringing production back from China. These are not great jobs, paying 8-10 dollars an hour but for those who have run out of unemployment benefits, it is better than nothing.
Anyone who believes any initial figures from the government is a fool.
Misinformation is only another tool for the feds to manipulate the market.
Soon enough, the plain truth will become evident. The gap between real numbers and what the feds release will get so bad, they will have to start revising downward just to maintain any credibility.
The fed is running out of matches and the fire ain't lighting.
I'd like to see the ratio of job seekers to available jobs
It's OVER!!!!!!!!!! Yeah...Buy Buy Buy
Reading a bit further in the report:
The advance number of actual initial claims under state programs, unadjusted, totaled 667,534 in the week ending July 11, an increase of 86,389 from the previous week. There were 483,981 initial claims in the comparable week in 2008.
The advance unadjusted insured unemployment rate was 4.6 percent during the week ending July 4, an increase of 0.1 percentage point from the prior week. The advance unadjusted number for persons claiming UI benefits in state programs totaled 6,135,066, an increase of 63,714 from the preceding week. A year earlier, the rate was 2.3 percent and the volume was 3,118,724.
I strongly disagree with your choice of headline CR.
"Weekly Unemployment Claims Decline Sharply" should read:
"Seasonally Adjusted Weekly Unemployment Claims Decline Sharply"
The advance number of actual initial claims under state programs, unadjusted, totaled 667,534 in the week ending July 11, an increase of 86,389 from the previous week. There were 483,981 initial claims in the comparable week in 2008.
Any idea what they mean here by "clouded"?
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- First-time claims for state unemployment benefits fell in the latest weekly data, after seasonal adjustment, because many expected manufacturing layoffs, mainly automotive, did not occur, the Labor Department said Thursday. The number of initial claims in the week ending July 11 fell 47,000 to 522,000 - the lowest level since early January. However, recent data is "clouded" by the timing of this year's layoffs, many of which have already occurred, according to a Labor Department analyst. Further, some layoffs may come later or not at all, and analysts expect several more weeks of volatility in the claims data due to layoff-timing issues.
Dawg dont be a party pooper... Just get in the equities.... Another 4 points today? Should be fun....
Any idea what they mean here by "clouded"?
--Hopium Smoke.
.....this week and next will be BS numbers, correct? Should be good though for a bunch of "YES, The Witch is Dead" hysterical screaming by pundits.
I have seen a few stories that talk about a correlation between commercial real estate and unemployment - stuff like this:
Silicon Valley Rent, Vacancy, and Unemployment | Square Feet Commercial Real Estate Blog
CR, is there some kind of correlation? thanks
"seasonally adjusted insured unemployment during the week ending July 4 was 6,273,000, a decrease of 642,000 from the preceding week's revised level of 6,915,000.' I'm exhausted by that.
NOTE: The seasonally adjusted weekly claims numbers are being impacted by the layoffs in the automobile industry and other manufacturing sectors. Usually companies cut back production in the summer, and the numbers are adjusted for that pattern - but this year the companies cut back much earlier. This distortion is expected to last for another week or two.
Listen. All we care about is the headline. I don't want no fancy "notes" or "addendums". I don't even want an article. Just tell me the number so that I can trade.
I knew there was a reason I only watched CNBC.
Hopefully in the future we can distill all this irritating news down to one word... "Buy".
I strongly disagree with your choice of headline CR.
"Weekly Unemployment Claims Decline Sharply" should read:
"Seasonally Adjusted Weekly Unemployment Claims Decline Sharply"
no way. I would choose this headline:
"Buy"
" nades (homepage, profile) wrote on Thu, 7/16/2009 - 8:50 am
Dawg dont be a party pooper... Just get in the equities.... Another 4 points today? Should be fun...."
Who did the glossary entry for Dawg ? LOL
Also, why do glossary entries still show up as misspelled?
In two weeks they start seasonally adjusting up instead of down--we'll see how things look then.
In two weeks they start seasonally adjusting up instead of down--we'll see how things look then.
No. the Fed learned how to bail out "summer" so that it doesn't turn to "fall"
they've decided after last year's "winter" that "winter" will no longer be allowed to happen, and fall is just too close to winter. Plus, "fall" has a negative connotation and it is when Lehman... well... fell.
Thus, we shall stay in summer and spring only.
By the way for those of you who've been here for a while:
I am still a willing counterparty to Lehman Brothers across all lines of business.
" Yearning to Learn (profile) wrote on Thu, 7/16/2009 - 8:53 am
.....
I strongly disagree with your choice of headline CR.
"Weekly Unemployment Claims Decline Sharply" should read:
"Seasonally Adjusted Weekly Unemployment Claims Decline Sharply"
no way. I would choose this headline:
"Buy""
I would choose this tag-line:
//SNARK
Yalt (profile) wrote on Thu, 7/16/2009 - 5:54 am
In two weeks they start seasonally adjusting up instead of down--we'll see how things look then.
That's when they switch to headlining the NSA number.
"no way. I would choose this headline: "Buy"
Yep...... it doesn't matter if you think the game is rigged, it only matters that you buy a ticket to play.
I love this title:
"Orwellian accounting cannot damp economic cycles"
By Paul Boyle
Published: July 15 2009 19:36 | Last updated: July 15 2009 19:36
The financial crisis has generated a philosophical debate about the role of accounting, notably the extent to which it is pro-cyclical, exacerbating booms and busts.
It is clear that the financial sector has been badly damaged by the crisis and the risks of similar costs to the public purse occurring again should be minimised. However, it is not clear that accounting has the potential to be a public policy tool to reduce pro-cyclicality, nor that it would be appropriate to use it in this way.
FT.com / Comment / Opinion - Orwellian accounting cannot damp economic cycles
Everyone probably knows this, but CR made it onto:
RealClearMarkets: Market-Related News, Analysis & Commentary
Congrads CR....
It's in the "OFF THE STREET" section
I woke up with the last part of Kubla Khan banging around my head...seems about as appropriate as anything else..that or Ants Marching by Dave Matthews..
That with music loud and long,
I would build that dome in air,
That sunny dome ! those caves of ice !
And all who heard should see them there,
And all should cry, Beware ! Beware !
His flashing eyes, his floating hair !
Weave a circle round him thrice,
And close your eyes with holy dread,
For he on honey-dew hath fed,
And drunk the milk of Paradise.
I sure hope $522k job loss is sustainable, like 5% deficits.
The decreased job-loss rate means we will reach 0 jobs a little later than previously scheduled.
Gentlemen, don your rally caps.
Green, shot....on the foreclosure front.
Zero Hedge: RealtyTrac: Q2 Foreclosure Activity Highest On Record
It looks like the market is discounting the unemployment number. The "biggest ever" drop in continuing claims looks like a statistical anomaly.
Boyle: An equally, or perhaps even more, dangerous argument now gaining currency is that accounting should be given an explicit role in promoting financial stability, rather than its traditional role of providing information useful to investors in their decision-making. The implication of this view is that accounting measures that show volatility should be adjusted to create an impression of stability.
That reminds me of my 6/25 article:
"Confusing cause with consequence is like Homer Simpson using pliers to force the temperature-gauge needle to a safe reading even as the nuclear reactor melts down."
The title is totally wrong. Its not weekly claims. Its seasonally adjusted claims. Job seekers to jobs is about 5:1.
Purely anecdotal and not evidence of any recovery of the economy to previous boom status but one of our local employers is hiring 350 people to staff production lines. The rumor on the street is they are bringing production back from China. These are not great jobs, paying 8-10 dollars an hour but for those who have run out of unemployment benefits, it is better than nothing.
Anyone who believes any initial figures from the government is a fool.
Misinformation is only another tool for the feds to manipulate the market.
Soon enough, the plain truth will become evident. The gap between real numbers and what the feds release will get so bad, they will have to start revising downward just to maintain any credibility.
The fed is running out of matches and the fire ain't lighting.