I was wondering about Corus last night - the silence has been deafening.

So a Thursday seize? Or just giving people time to run after all their buddies got the word last week?

A BFT?

Has someone notified Soylent Green is People?

C

Investors don't appear to be interested in buying the entire bank, but instead are looking at buying the bank's assets out of receivership if regulators take over.

Well, duh. Who'd want to buy liabilities, especially when you can dump them on the FDIC? And they said "good bank, bad bank" was dead.

I'm starting to like "failed banks" much better than "failing banks". We don't talk much about the ones that are failed.. That's gotta be a good thing.

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I wouldn't be surprised by an early seizure. The FDIC seized BankUnited a day early after the news leaked.

best wishes

Seems like we've been talking about Corus forever. Just goes to show how incredibly long these things take.

Makes me think we'll still be here discussing bank failures a decade from now.

How can the government make a sweetheart asset sale to someone besides Goldman Sachs? Did Goldman already buy it and sell it back at a profit after the June deadline? That would explain the silence.

Bacon-wrapped comment from last thread:

So the question is where do you go and how do you 'get there'?

Yes! In that inimitable Dryfly style you have, this is the question. Isn't there someone in the yellowpages? Should I look under C for capital flight? I'm sure cerfified financial planner could help. /snark

Oh well. I guess I'll just ask Neil for some popcorn and watch the show. It's my kids that I worry about.

I wouldn't be surprised by an early seizure.

At least they are well rested from a light weekend.

Gee, maybe that was the plan?

Fifteen banks could get seized tomorrow, but if GS beats big, every stock in the world will go up 3%.

Outlier - I really don't have the answer for you... wish I did because I'd already be there waiting for you. Fact is I know folks who put a factory in China thinking that was a smart move to arb the dollar-yuan and now regret it... they don't know if they will ever get those 'gains' back out.

It is easy to be too smart by half in this game.

You have any ideas your mulling?

Fifteen banks could get seized tomorrow, but if GS beats big, every stock in the world will go up 3%.

Only 3%? So you mean it is already priced in.

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So, how is Cerebus doing?

I have been using hsbc to open bank accounts throughot the world. I document my income to the IRS. My interest is in both diversifying out of USD as well as having bank accounts that are physically located outside the US. Obviously one needs to do due diligence on local FDIC like coverage ( which tends to be quite lower in other countries).

He says they are "looking at many banks." That could be taken in so many different ways...

He says they are "looking at many banks." That could be taken in so many different ways...

No kidding. For instance, I look at Elizabeth Banks every so often.

I wonder if they will let Starwood take say only 50 of the loans.... Is it an all or nothing?

I have been using hsbc to open bank accounts throughot the world.

poic - you own any real assets overseas? If not ever been tempted to? I have friends who own land in Mexico - a villa on the Mayan Riviera - and it sounded like an interesting proposition... until I started reading about how the Brits are getting crushed in Spain. Now I'm not so sure its even remotely a good idea anywhere.

Any views on that angle.

They had better have some free cash to finish the non-completed C&D projects.... And a lot more to burn thru in maintenance and the like till the buildings are occupied....

nades,

I'd assume they would only take assets that receive "favorable financing" from the FDIC...

I'd assume they would only take assets that receive "favorable financing" from the FDIC...

BG (or anyone): Does anyone here have hope that there will be a new deal for large bank failures? THere hasn't been a big one (CIT/Corus size) yet in the new administration, so I have crossed fingers.

dryfly - its now difficult to own land in Mexico. You have to let the bank own the land and you lease it from them for 100 years. (Durations do vary) Its called a Fideicomiso as I understand it. I was in Costa Rica and the land was priced in USD. They wanted like 350K for a shanti... It was rampant, to me that means one would have to beat everyone to the land before it went up in value. Then you have to deal with poor property rights and dirty titles if they exist at all. I guess I'm like you, interested in it but not enough huevos to pull the trigger. (Financing would be my other issue! LOL!Smile)

I wonder if they will let Starwood take say only 50 of the loans.... Is it an all or nothing?

The FDIC is never all or nothing, and I'm guessing Starwood is not going to take some half-finished condo project.

BG - Oh... Thanks, I figured they had to buy them outright at what ever percent of principal they could negotiate for. Say 40 cents on the dollar... I didnt know that the FDIC got involved that way.... Looks like i need to read a little more carefully. Smile

I'm sure the administration wants its very own Lehman to remember these years by.

nades,

To be fair, he just says that they "could benefit" from such financing. I read that as, give us this financing or else.

B2 the way I read it it is just construction loans... They must have some pretty savy finance / construction guys crunching numbers over there.... My 40 cents on the dollar just went down to 15!

I'm sure the administration wants its very own Lehman

I'd like to thank the Academy and all the little people that made this moment possible.

BTW I get a kick out of the WSJ. They wont show me the whole article but when I google the headline with quotes around it and click on the link it get to read the whole thing compliments of google... I guess one cant have their cake and eat it too after all..... Wink

from what i understand, the FDIC doesn't provide "financing" in terms of a loan, but rather as loss-sharing or discounted value. But then again, it's hard to keep track of Calvinball FDIC.

nades: keep quite about that. Murdock's flunkies might hear and plug the hole.

@dryfly

I was considering learning medical terminology in spanish to allow me to keep working in medicine. There are theoretical problems (like those mentioned on previous thread). I'm not rich enough to buy security. So in terms of safety, I thought I could buy safety by providing medical care. The spanish gives me options for staying in the Western hemisphere.

I don't have much knowledge about the geopolitical problems of Mexico and Central America. But global wage arbitrage coupled with present policy and unremitting emphasis on consumerism creates an unappealing way to retire here.

What am I gonna do? Go golfing everyday. Might just be able to really help someone who needs it. Just random thoughts, sorry.

Bond Girl - very droll. But why stop at an entity when you can have an entire credit class fall over?

C

What they really need is a currency crisis. Something new, edgy.

i think Harvard imploding would be emblematic, especially given the personnel.

Nades, thanks for information about Costa Rica.

dryfly - its now difficult to own land in Mexico. You have to let the bank own the land and you lease it from them for 100 years. (Durations do vary)

Nades, that only applies in the border areas and along the coast in Mexico. A foreigner can own land in the interior without the Fidecomiso. You just have to apply for a permit from the Secretaria de Relaciones Exteriores. I am a US expat in Mexico, and I own my house here in Monterrey.

nades, 5 years seems optimistic to me.

BTW, I've heard Panama is the new Costa Rica.

I am a US expat in Mexico, and I own my house here in Monterrey.

That's what you think. Smile

For a take on life south of border, Fred's column:

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CDaA - thanks for that. I was actually just reading about that on the internets. It sounds like its true for Cancun too...(?)

I'm envyous, sounds like you might have a good thing going... Internets and all! Laughing out loud Are you at all worried about them changing the game later on? A Calvinball if you will? LOL! (Never used that one before!)

dryfly - its now difficult to own land in Mexico.

It is a lot easier now than it used to be. My friend has dual citizenship [okay he has Mexican citizenship but never let his US citizenship lapse]... regardless as a result he has full title of beach property. He also has friends in gov't [both state & federal]. That is what helped grease the deal... it is also what could be his undoing - when parties change again.

Prices there are a LOT lower than Costa Rica precisely because no one knows how good the title is. And even if it is rock solid today what about tomorrow?

Anyway I generally agree with your assessment.

You're right broward, just like everywhere else in the world, the government and the bank are ahead of me.

Dryfly,

Sorry I don't gave any great input into real estate.  The only thing I feel comfortable owning is real estate close to home.  We've decided on retiring to Vancouver so we are proactively moving into Canadian currency and planning to move there in the future.  

My inlaws bought twice in China and that was a huge ball of worms.  Definitely don't buy a resale property there unless you can bring someone that people won't screw around with to the table as the same title can get sold multiple times.  Their last purchase  had a great story behind it.

My brother lives in Thailand and there's plenty if hoops to jump through there as well.

I would argue the safest place to wait this out is in the most depressed parts of the rust belt.

Some of the podunk burgs in Pennsy are looking good. You can buy a house for the price of a car. Fix it yourself and just live quietly.

Lots of deer to eat, huntin and growing a bit o' corn.

I wonder if you can convert a pellet stove to run on anthracite?

I would not head south and put a target on your life. Mexico has been destabilizing, especially outside of the biggest cities.

Nothing like living small and quiet.

Someday this war's gonna end...

We looked at Costa Rica in the early 90s.
There's a lot of positives but it's much more expensive now than in 1993.

I know one guy (Orlin Grabbe) that moved to Costa Rica around then and he died there in 2008.
Govt' troops broke into his house and blew him away and confiscated his property..
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No, just joking, he died of a heart attack... Smile

James Orlin Grabbe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Poor old Orlin.

I knew a guy that moved to Panama in 1989, and another guy that left to Nicaragua around 1992.
They seemed happy enough about it.

Hello CDA - my friend in Xcalak [little town southern QR near Belize] says US citizens can even own property on the coast in certain situations - not sure what they are as I didn't dig into it too deeply but says there are 'exceptions to every rule' including that one. I'm suspicious though as it looks to me like a dicey proposition given the past practice. He isn't known as a BSer and has lived there for over 20 years himself so something is up.

BTW he was the same guy who suggested I open a factory in Chetemal making furniture from 'renewable tropical hardwoods' & took me on a tour through a maquila down there then through U Quintana Roo. Fun time.

I would argue the safest place to wait this out is in the most depressed parts of the rust belt.

Looks like I'm good to go then.

Wink

Civilization: a thin veneer over barbarianism. ~John M. Shanahan

"India prays for rain as water wars break out"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jul/12/india-water-supply-bhopal

Food and water. Amazing how fragile the systems we depend on are to deliver these necessities. California needs to worry more about it's drought and the fallow fields in Central Valley then the IOU's and political theater. Water by truck in LA to a million people. Would it even be doable?

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/20/us/20fresno.html?ref=global-home

I'll never forget listening to an Enron trader call up a power station and ask if it could do some maintenance during peak demand and thus send the price of electricity shooting up. Water is as easily manipulated as any other resource.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A02E4D8103BF937A35751C0A9639C8B63

The entire UBS/IRS showdown among other actions by the IRS to crack down on offshore banking and tax havens has everything to do with controlling the capital outflows from this country. Take your money and run isn't going over well. Funny that when you want to hide money it is usually because it was illegally gained. The Bush years were great for a bunch of people.

"The dispute, in which the Internal Revenue Service, backed by the Justice Department, is trying to force UBS to hand over the names of 52,000 wealthy American clients suspected of tax evasion,"

Citizen AllenM - Nothing like living small and quiet.

Lot's of good points there. Then things go for the worst you don't want to be the stranger or the odd man out.

I would argue the safest place to wait this out is in the most depressed parts of the rust belt.

I've thought a lot about leaving the U.S. over the past fifteen years, and I have applications right now for a couple of jobs in the Middle East. But the longer I watch this thing, the more I'm tempted to agree with Allen. I wouldn't want to be in a major city like SF or NYC but that leaves a lot of places that nobody cares about much. And there's something to be said for being a native, english-speaking local that's familiar to the surrounding people. There's far more paranoia in the air than most people will admit to themselves.

I think the law is that anywhere within 30 kilometers of the coast or the border, a foreigner cannot directly own the land, so Cancun would fall in that catagory.

As far as Calvinball goes, I don't worry about it. I don't see/hear anything in the near term that would cause the laws to change.

"California needs to worry more about it's drought"

it is my understanding that the farmers use almost all of it. as impressive as our cotton and rice industry is, i think it is pretty obvious what needs to be thrown off the truck first.

Citizen AllenM - Nothing like living small and quiet.

Flyover does well on today's list of

BEST PLACES TO LIVE (IN THE U.S.)

Cool... Smile

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nytol.....

California doesn't have to worry about FresH20, we'll just do a water stimulus.

i think it is pretty obvious what needs to be thrown off the truck first.

Water for aging Boomers?

I wonder if you can convert a pellet stove to run on anthracite?

be careful of burning coal in a wood stove, it burns a lot hotter than wood.

been there, done that.

almost burned down the family homestead.

my father was not amused.

sisters still tease me about it.

Water for aging Boomers?

lol!

poic - save your powder on Vancouver until the market crashes here. We're still near peak in Victoria and Vancouver (prices went down last year and then spiked again this spring). Following around 2 years behind the U.S. Somehow the Animal Spirits are still active...

NorkaWest, good point about keeping coal out of a wood stove.

Amazing how what you don't know can kill you.

Knew an oldtimer who burned a coke fire every winter, all winter. He had a huge amount of firebrick over battleship thick steel plate surrounded by a massive stone fireplace and chimney. Even then he watched the level of coke.

Dumb Canuck, do you expect a crash in property values after the Olympics ends?

What's a coke fire? I have an unnamed relative who actually, and I'm not related by blood to this person, used gasoline to try to quick start his woodstove - it was a rental and he was new to woodstoves. The chimney blew off and landed somewhere in the neighborhood. He was lucky he wasn't killed.

"Water for aging Boomers? "

you can afford to laugh, broward, you're in the pnw, the only place in the 48 with a remaining snowpack...

be careful of burning coal in a wood stove, it burns a lot hotter than wood.

been there, done that.

almost burned down the family homestead.

my father was not amused.

sisters still tease me about it.

I can see how that could happen - HOWEVER - a number of stoves have conversion kits that allow some conventional wood stoves to burn coal. It is a fairly common practice in rural Appalachia to this day.

I believe they have thicker refractory linings between the inside of the fire box and the metal walls much like a foundry cupola.

Oh I will be waiting for years from what I can see. I'm still kicking myself for not buying on Vancouver island back when the exchange rate wad 1.6 cdn and we could have gotten something very nice for 400k cdn.

Don't know whether we will ever see that again.

Hi dryfly, I'm sure that there are ways to get around details like that. Sometimes it's amazing what a little money in the right hands can do here. They may also use "prestanombres" - straw buyers. Actually, for the cost of the fidecomiso, it's not a bad way to go. The last time I looked, they cost about $5,000 USD to set up and about $500 USD per year to maintane.

I have yet another relative who bought in Edmonton a couple summers ago. The bidding was intense on anything that came on the market. List price was just the starting point. I wonder how the market there is doing now - I don't dare ask.

My excuse is that I was in sixth grade at the time and I had never seen coal burn before. (found it in the coal bin in the basement; left over from when they put in the gas furnace twenty years before I was born.)

as I wrote some days ago I can't help but think that Ed Wood was some sort of mad genius way ahead
of his time.
for example - quotes from 'Plan 9 from Outer Space'

Criswell: Greetings, my friend. We are all interested in the future, for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. And remember my friend, future events such as these will affect you in the future. You are interested in the unknown... the mysterious.

Lieutenant John Harper: " I'll bet my badge that we haven't seen the last of those weirdies."

The Ruler: Plan 9? Ah, yes. Plan 9 deals with the resurrection of the dead. Long distance electrodes shot into the pineal and pituitary gland of the recently dead.
(someone check Bernanke's NetFlix account quick...)

dryfly wrote

poic - you own any real assets overseas? If not ever been tempted to? I have friends who own land in Mexico - a villa on the Mayan Riviera - and it sounded like an interesting proposition... until I started reading about how the Brits are getting crushed in Spain. Now I'm not so sure its even remotely a good idea anywhere.


does anyone, not a mexican citizen really own real estate there???

a lawyer friend who "owns" property in the baja tells me you have to go thru an intermediary mexican corporation or individual

no gringos allowed to own mexican land??? am i wrong?

broward, you're in the pnw, the only place in the 48 with a remaining snowpack...

Yes, we have our own well.

The local aquifers might be depleted by farming (as happened in Lancaster/Palmdale) but we're in a middle space...part residence, part small farming, so it's probably okay.

Man, there was nothing for jobs today.
I suppose I'll go play some pool.

Wood stoves? Coal? Coke?

Is this Calculated Risk or Survivalist.com?

Is this Calculated Risk or Survivalist.com?

There's an entry for squirrel in the glossary...

Mock, as I mentioned above, a gringo can own land more than 30 kilometers from the border or the coast. Closer to the coast or the border, you can set up a trust (usually through a bank) with a 100 year lease.

Unbelievably, survivalist.com seems to be an available internet address!

Anyone interested?

"no gringos allowed to own mexican land??? am i wrong? "

most foreign nationals have problems getting clear title on land anywhere in latin america.

surprised more econ junkies here in gringolandia don't mention the chilean inflation index that they use to price real estate. the fomento, i believe.

There's an entry for squirrel in the glossary...

Ya and if we keep talking Mexico, Costa Rica, etc. we'll have to start sharing iguana recipes too though I'm told it tastes like chicken.

My description wouldn't be as good as what I could find:

Coke Fire

no gringos allowed to own mexican land??? am i wrong?
Only by using gringos. I think any non-Mexican national has to use a trust or other end run around the land laws.

Thanks sportsfan - my son wants 'us' to build a forge in the backyard and I wondered where I was going to get the coke - now I know. Make my neighbors really happy.

Ah, so coke is a type of coal.

Didn't know there would be yet another meaning for coke.

Comrade Dazed and Amused

yes i note your post

might you be in error

Land Ownership by Foreigners in Mexico

"Where Foreigners Can Own Land in Mexico

Foreign individuals and companies may directly own land in Mexico, except in the restricted zone. The restricted zone is described by Article 27 of the Constitution as "lands or waters within a zone of one hundred kilometers along the borders and of fifty kilometers along the beaches of the country." Land in this zone must be acquired through a trust fund established for fifty years. In this kind of trust fund the bank retains the property title but the foreigner is the beneficiary and may use and enjoy such premises and may sell or even inherit the rights to it. The bank, however, must be notified of and approve all operations regarding the property. "

and also

"Land Ownership Rights of Foreigners in Mexico

Although Section I of this article grants the right to acquire the dominion of land and water only to Mexican individuals and companies, it also gives the State the power to grant the same right to foreigners, subject to the condition that these foreigners agree before the Ministry of Foreign Relations to consider themselves as Mexican nationals with respect to their ownership of the real estate, etc. If the covenant is breached, all rights to such property shall revert to the Nation."

am i wrong?

Survivalist.com is registered.
I imagine the owner is holding out for a fairly big price.

I just can't see moving to a place like Costa Rica or Nicaragua.

I don't get it.

I bought a drive-through mud cake stand in Port au Prince, my retirement haven.

after listening to Geithner's testimony the other day and Ben's various pronuncements
I think Eros's explanation of Solaranite in Plan 9 sound prescient...
here's a collection of best lines from that movie: YouTube - Plan 9 From Outer Space - Best Lines

Wish I had thought of registering vague website domains years and years ago.

Talk about an easy way to make money.

Ah, so coke is a type of coal.

Processed coal - originally used in blacksmithing & later in steel production... I believe it is produced by heating coal and then injecting high pressure steam - something you wouldn't do at home. It burns a lot hotter than coal or charcoal. Fewer impurities too [important for metal working].

EDIT: looked it up - coke is NOT made by passing steam over hot coal... it is made by heating coal in the absence of air to drive off volatiles, sulfur & moisture. Steam injected over hot coke produces 'fuel gas' or 'syngas' [synthesis gas]. Ya just trivia but WTH - get it right.

"Port au Prince, my retirement haven."

How many men in your private army?

I just can't see moving to a place like Costa Rica or Nicaragua.

I don't get it.

You saw the latest bit about forcing tax accountants to act as agents of the Treasury? Towards the end of Rome, the tax collectors where personally accountable for tax revenues and shortages were punishable by fines (or perhaps worse), so there was general exodus out towards the periphery of the Empire.

Costa Rica could be considered a periphery.
The last time I checked, it had a non-extradition treaty.

I believe the CR gov't is also funded solely from sales tax, no income tax.
So if you've got offshore assets....

I bought it with some leftover voodoo economics for almost nothing.

I don't get it.

I don't get it either mp.

I know someone who inherited a certain amount of money and researched where he could live to make it last all his days. He ended up in Costa Rica, and this was probably 10 years ago, maybe less. Now it's gotten more expensive it seems.

But you leave all family and friends and move to a different culture where they don't speak your language, it sounds lonely to me. Not to mention downright dangerous.

surprised more econ junkies here in gringolandia don't mention the chilean inflation index that they use to price real estate. the fomento, i believe.

I think that is similar to the UDI that is used in Mexico. Basically, the principle is indexed to the CPI, so that the payment adjusts each month accordingly. The "interest rate" for the loan is actually only the intermediation interest. The inflation interest is built into the UDI.

Not to mention downright dangerous.

Nominally, Costa Rica has a 2nd amendment equivalent.
It's supposed to be a pretty safe place.

I was shocked last year when I checked out a job in Egypt.
Did you know Egypt's crime rate is something like 1/3rd of NYC?

Did you know Egypt's crime rate is something like 1/3rd of NYC?

How much do you trust their crime reporting?

[Coke] burns a lot hotter than coal or charcoal. Fewer impurities too [important for metal working].

Also important when one is breathing the air indoors.

As I said, the oldtimer kept it going all winter as his main source of heat. He also used it for cooking (boiling water) swinging iron pots in on various swivel devices. He was a character.

Who knows when, Animal Spirits are at play. The Olympics have been priced into the market since they were announced. Shit is hitting the fan economically here now, however we still have open spiggots on 35 year amortizations, 5% downpayments, stated income and variable rate, so people are buying because they can 'afford' a house. Or more accurately afford to be foreclosed in three years time when their house value has gone down and interest rates have gone up.

How much do you trust their crime reporting?

I talked to two people who'd done gigs in Saudi and Egypt.
They confirmed most of what I'd read online.

BTW, I don't believe Costa Rica has a military either... which means check out the neighbors.

Well goodnight all - you keep me up too late.

I talked to two people who'd done gigs in Saudi and Egypt.
They confirmed most of what I'd read online.

If you go to Saudi - leave the leather pants at home and be extra special careful to NOT look like you're hittin' on the babes... it ain't Idaho. Had many chem e buds who did time there... you better bring your squeeze with you or find 'other arrangements'.

buying land in foreign countries is fraught with all kinds of difficulties.
first rule is to do some research on their judicial system esp. if they are
bound by stare decisis or if it's up to the judge how he sees fit to rule on case,
next, find
out if said country can have mutiple title claims due to wars, former
illegitmate gov. next, determine stability of political/economic stability
of said country... cases of land expropriation are as numerous as the
world's termite population

Outsider - BTW, I don't believe Costa Rica has a military either... which means check out the neighbors.

They fall under the protective umbrella of the US, for how long that last is another question.

Mock, I wasn't sure of the exact distances, but from above 100 km from borders and 50 km from the beaches is correct. (Thanks for looking it up.)

Basically the second part, regarding foreigners, means that you get a permit from SRE. The title to the property references the permit number and the respective laws.

I got a cabin in Spitsbergen, it's fully stocked.

Witching hour here in flyover - nytol.

Did a remodel on a coal fired house, every day was a minstrel show when we knocked off. Coal dust everywhere; in the joists, behind the plaster, in my boots; had to change out filters on my mask every day.

Problem buying property in mexico is having clear title, all it takes is one member of a edijito to deny signing the agreement (even when witnessed and videotaped) and it's 5 years of legal fees.

Though I understand the allure for folks who want to retire elsewhere, I'm staying with the U.S. As much as we kid about how bad things are here . . . and how bad they will get . . . I've got to believe picking any other spot would be like walking up to a roulette table and choosing red or black . . . knowing full well the wheel has green on it.

costa rica has crime, petty theft, car break in's etc...no military....No issues..
Nicaragua is nice on pacific coast..no issues yet!

the people have always been poor in those 2 countries, they are happy though they are poor...if your not flashy, pura vida!

One of the keys to buying property in this country is to buy in an unincorporated area, then anything goes.

Mexico's law of foreign ownership is very similar to other countries I've looked at.
Effectively, you're leasing for 50 years and that is held in a land bank. There are ways
around this. Depends if Mexico allows you to buy land in a joint venture with Mexican
nationals.
(in Vietnam, the last time the 'Duchess' bought port frontage land 400 m. X 70 m.
the lease was for 50 years... she wanted to build a new living compound but Hanoi changed the
rules... unless you get a 99 year lease it's no good for a house, they are thinking of 3 generations out...
granted her 'land' has a certain national security element to it (try and Google Earth Con Dao and see
what images it returns... a blur)

Re Egypt:: it may be out of date, but Tony Horwitz's BAGHDAD WITHOUT A MAP painted a rather frightening
picture of that country (and other parts of Middle East).

"One of the keys to buying property in this country is to buy in an unincorporated area, then anything goes."

We live w/o any police presence in an unincorporated area, just like the bigger cities will be doing soon...

But you leave all family and friends and move to a different culture where they don't speak your language, it sounds lonely to me. Not to mention downright dangerous.

Well you definitely need to learn the local language and make an effort to fit in. I've lived in 3 different countries and grew up moving around a lot and have found that home is wherever you make it inside yourself.

Danger is relative as well. Many parts of the US are much more dangerous than many countries in Asia, other part much safer.

When I grew up in Toronto it was much safer than US cities of comparable size.

"Not to mention downright dangerous."

Staying in the USSA will soon be considered dangerous.

"We live w/o any police presence in an unincorporated area, just like the bigger cities will be doing soon... "

Fine.

All I'm saying is, and as a resident of an unincorporated area yourself, you're probably aware that you can do pretty much whatever you want to do with your property.

Build a skyscraper, airport, whatever suits you. Building permit? What's that?

The only requirements I have are: first, inform the tax assessor when I've built something; second, get a septic permit, if required.

mp,

True enough...

We can do what we damn well please. And we are building an observatory this summer.

Problem buying property in mexico is having clear title, all it takes is one member of a edijito to deny signing the agreement (even when witnessed and videotaped) and it's 5 years of legal fees.

Agreed, especially if you are buying existing housing. Other problems could be liens, probate, multiple sales of the same property, falsified id of sellers, squaters, etc. There is no title insurance like in the US. Everything depends on the "escrituras" which are written by a "notario". Caveat emptor.

I have some friends that bought in Costa Rica about 10 years ago. Pity Dryfly isn't on here anymore....
one guy was a retired cop from MN, who was involved in a serial murder case in the late 80s... I think,
... it's been awhile since we spoke... having been hearing pretty good things about Nicaragua from
people who grew up there...

I mention the JV approach in Mexico if possible because it's a way for a farang to own land their
with the rights of a national...

go down to east oakland at night to get a better idea of how really safe costa rica and Nicaragua are...or the tenderloin for that matter..because it's getting rougher than you can imagine....

"One of the keys to buying property in this country is to buy in an unincorporated area, then anything goes. "

Not in California. But, you knew that Smile.

In my coastal California county, the got-mine crowd (I wouldn't call them liberals) put in place a draconian and labyrinthine planning process as a backdoor form of growth control in the unincorporated areas. Local contractors would much rather work in the cities.

Of course, in the back country out of plain sight, people do what they want. But things can catch up with them. We had a big fire up in the mountains last year, burned 20 houses; half of them illegal, won't be allowed to rebuild. Or the neighbor narcs you out if he gets pissed at your for some reason. Then it's either red-tagged or the county "allows" you to buy compliance for some tens of thousands. It's like a police state for houses.

Personally, I'm a townie. I'm not up for a 20-30 minute response time for emergency services. (Waiting for the first snark from some CalDoomer, "you won't have them in town, either!" We shall see.)

Bear experts and pundits are one by one losing credibility.

Meredith Whitney has now joined Nouriel Roubini, Paul Krugman (and lots of CEO's) in semi-optimistic comments that will ultimately lead to "oops, I misjudged how immeasurably FUBAR this is."

Warren Buffet, Obama, and Greenspan can be added to the list as well.

(Bush's bear cred is safe on account of the "this sucker's going down" comment.)

Who else still has credibility?

Krazy Karl Denninger, Jim Kunstler...

Feel free to add worthies to the list.

Agreed, especially if you are buying existing housing. Other problems could be liens, probate, multiple sales of the same property, falsified id of sellers, squaters, etc. There is no title insurance like in the US. Everything depends on the "escrituras" which are written by a "notario". Caveat emptor.

This is a big problem also in china so you bring someone with you to the bargaining table to make sure no one messes with you.  A bureaucrat, police, military.  No one messes with the military as they trump all else.

I keep hearing about the walking debt showing up in droves in SF, any flowers in their hair?

"I'm not up for a 20-30 minute response time for emergency services."

yeah, big basin is possibly the most beautiful place in the lower 48. but i could never live near the 17/35 juncture. too remote.

I was hoping for an answer to the dilemma... "this does not end well". Thought it might be across the border. So instead I can look forward to a hollowed out middle class, capital flight, medicare BK, and continued GS hegemony. Niiice.

JD-
No walking debt here, they use bart....

The weather today made San Francisco easy on the eyes....I swear there are more good looking women here than anywhere I have traveled...just need the sun to bring them out...kind of like flowers...

mp,

We are having some visitors from the oildrum, I guess Evil

//Is this Calculated Risk or Survivalist.com?//

They laid off a shitlode of police in Sacramento, but were an appropriate number of criminals laid off as well?

Get out of the big smoke, while you can still can...

"Not in California. But, you knew that."

Bob, actually I had forgotten, but of course you are right. California, in my mind, is always the exception.

If you're talking about Santa Cruz County, which I assume you are, you have my sympathy.

From what I understand of the goings on there, the hippies have donned three-piece suits and now run the place.

The Coastal Commission is one hell of a moneysucker.

that car czar was something...a great american......criminal

Rattner leaves autos force, probe intensifies
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The pensions scandal involved allegations that high powered political lobbyists were paid by private equity firms to pull in pension fund business from New York and other state pension funds.

The investigation has already led to the indictment of several of those involved, including Henry Morris, who was the former state comptroller's top fund-raiser.

When the controversy broke in April, U.S. President Barack Obama stood by Rattner, saying he had not been accused of wrongdoing.

There was no indication from administration officials that the state pension probe was connected with Rattner's departure from the task force.

JD-you should deal with the cal. fish and game...
cousin had to pay for his commercial salmon license though no fishing this year...they told him if he didnt pay his chance of getting the license next year was nil...

. . . the got-mine crowd (I wouldn't call them liberals) put in place a draconian and labyrinthine planning process as a backdoor form of growth control . . .

The funny part is that they used to call themselves liberals before they got-theirs.

The impossible planning process is the time tested locked gate for the gatekeepers in California. Since the municipality really can't deny any reasonable use of the land without suffering litigation pointed towards a 'taking,' the only alternative is to make every reasonable use of the land almost impossible to obtain.

Equal protection and all that jazz.

"Daydreaming is sometimes good. But not by a US President who talks of hope and honesty in the middle of an economic depression. He is in the process of quadrupling the budget deficit following the rich and powerful oligarchs in America who have no place to hide now. They will hide behind Obama with a hope that Obama will talk it smooth and protect them from the reality exposure to American people."

IndiaDaily - Obama wants to halve budget deficit — is he dreaming in daylight? Halve or quadruple in two years?

"The Coastal Commission"

Sadly, I think the public nature of our coasts may be sacrificed in this crisis. I'm sure Grover Norquist would be happy about that, though I doubt David Geffen will invite him over to his 5 mile long private beach.

Baksheeshdation = cousin had to pay for his commercial salmon license though no fishing this year...they told him if he didnt pay his chance of getting the license next year was nil...

He is in the process of quadrupling the budget deficit

Quadrupling? Only if you pretend wars can be fought for free.

Or you flunked fourth grade math.

Goodnight.

Juvenal Delinquent,

In which state?

//Baksheeshdation//

creditcriminalslovetarp, ever been to Quebec City in the summer time? French chicks that shave their arm pits. My jaw was dragging on the ground the whole time I was their.

Juvenal Delinquent,

But we are different.. only those darkies are corrupt!

Corruption == dysfunctional system caused by perverse incentives

Credit-Default Swaps Probed by Justice Department, Markit Says
Credit Swaps Investigated by U.S. Justice Department (Update3) - Bloomberg.com

By Matthew Leising

July 14 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. Justice Department is investigating the market for credit-default swaps, according to Markit Group Ltd., the data provider majority-owned by Wall Street’s largest banks. “Markit has been informed of an investigation by the Department of Justice into the credit-derivatives and related markets,” spokeswoman Teresa Chick said yesterday in an e- mailed statement in response to questions from Bloomberg News. She declined to comment on the nature of the investigation. “We will work with the Department to provide any information requested of us.”

The Economy Is Even Worse Than You Think: The average length of unemployment is higher than it's been since government began tracking the data in 1948.
Average length of unemployment highest since 1948. - WSJ.com

By MORTIMER ZUCKERMAN

The recent unemployment numbers have undermined confidence that we might be nearing the bottom of the recession. What we can see on the surface is disconcerting enough, but the inside numbers are just as bad. The Bureau of Labor Statistics preliminary estimate for job losses for June is 467,000, which means 7.2 million people have lost their jobs since the start of the recession. The cumulative job losses over the last six months have been greater than for any other half year period since World War II, including the military demobilization after the war. The job losses are also now equal to the net job gains over the previous nine years, making this the only recession since the Great Depression to wipe out all job growth from the previous expansion.

unirealist (profile) wrote on Mon, 7/13/2009 - 10:28 pm

"Bear experts and pundits are one by one losing credibility.

Meredith Whitney has now joined Nouriel Roubini, Paul Krugman ...."


yes yes... we shall soon see who lies and who has been bought and sold

my belief... we are living in the land of smoke and mirrors

Bob Dobbs...
there was a study that was published about 7 years ago comparing the longevity of New Yorkers
to the rest of America, if memory serves, we lived 2 to 3 years longer... why?
all comes down to EMS response time... staying within the 11 minute envelope is crucial
after that irreversible brain damage comes on quickly

Duke of Con Dao,

The Goldman-Sachs bonuses are getting some attention on the Jon Stewart and Stephen Cobert show..

Lucifer:

Comedy central has become the last bastion of hard news and insightful political commentary. South Park and Colbert do a better job of analyzing current events than any of the mainstream networks. The faster those losers at the NYT et al go under, the better.

Is that not the very definition of a bizzaro world?

//Comedy central has become the last bastion of hard news and insightful political commentary. South Park and Colbert do a better job of analyzing current events than any of the mainstream networks. The faster those losers at the NYT et al go under, the better.//

Lucifer:

Not if you live in a society whose institutions have become debased.

Lucifer,
glad you pointed that out about Stewart/Colbert...
was surprized about Whitney's comments the other day, did she get body snatched?
or perhaps something far simpler...
... the way she talked about GS as if they were a gold plated bank beyond reproach,
hell, put on that cheerleader's outfit Meredith...

Whichever part of the world you live you have to pay bakeeesh bribes or taxes. In the US one pays between 2% to 8% taxes for protection (its called the police).
Here is an an article written by one of those cynical ones.
Alcohol – lifeblood of business networking
Excepts

Driving principle behind business drinks is a very human instinct: who you know and trust to lower your guard are far more reliable than abstract systems such as the law.

The rules and regulations won’t protect you. They merely define the pricing structure for those willing to buy themselves above the law.

requires access to an all important insider network. Ideally inherited from your elders as well as earned from amongst your peers. Such connections are based on a trading system of trust. Whose foundations are depend on developing intelligence on and a gut instinct about your fellow players/traders.

Developing profitable insider connections with strangers — specially to get on the post war reconstruction gravy train — requires a savvy few of us have. That’s why we are here reading and writing blogs instead of making big bucks.

Beyond career minded networking, booze helps you sculpt business relationships outside your connection circle. Personal arrangements are more civilised than the impersonal indignities of grovelling through the system.

Some rude people call it corruption. The Americans are much more civilized about this sort of thing and reserve it only for their elite. Only proper people should have access to lobbyists, and legal armies. Imagine if everyone was able to democratically loot the Iraqi reconstruction fund.

poic (profile) wrote on Tue, 7/14/2009 - 1:29 am
Agreed, especially if you are buying existing housing. Other problems could be liens, probate, multiple sales of the same property, falsified id of sellers, squaters, etc. There is no title insurance like in the US. Everything depends on the "escrituras" which are written by a "notario". Caveat emptor. This is a big problem also in china so you bring someone with you to the bargaining table to make sure no one messes with you. A bureaucrat, police, military. No one messes with the military as they trump all else.

In the US its the Real Estate Agent/Mortgage Broker. Same rules, if you dont know the inherent rules of the game you could be being taken to the cleaners . You can be from the same country/language group and it still can happen. Can argue that educated wont be taken, maybe but I doubt it. Hope springs eternal in the human breast they say, and so is a sucker born every minute.

Just wanted to quickly post this, looks like the new Trump tower in Waikiki is just licensed and Trump himself is not involved and the license can be pulled in the future. Kind of late to all the people who bought overpriced apartments and are now attempted to dump them with no one buying.
Yet a new twist in the Commercial Real-estate here.

Group Sues, Says Trump Not Part Of Waikiki Project - Money News Story - KITV Honolulu
Group Sues, Says Trump Not Part Of Waikiki Project
Lawsuit Says Trump Could Pull Name From Development

After Success of Palin Porn, Flynt Set to Release Sotomayor Flick
After making headlines near the election last year with his fast-tracked release of 'Nailin' Paylin", adult movie, Larry Flynt is set to repeat his political-adult-movie crossover production with a new piece of art on Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor. 'Sotomayor Does Oscarmayor' was filmed a month ago in the San Fernando Valley after ads appeared in craigslist for adult star lookalikes of Sotomayor as well as judiciary committee heads Patrick Leahy (D-VT) and Jeff Sessions (R-AL). Whereas the plot of the Palin movie revolved around stranded Russians asking a Palin-like-figure for help after their car breaks down; the plot of the new movie was described as "a look at how a 'sexy Latina woman' advanced through the judicial branch", by Flynt spokesman Imma Jooker.

Interesting that most folks are thinking escape south. I daydream about heading north...to Nova Scotia or Prince Edward Island. Real estate there, though it had a run-up, has started to crash, it is a country of laws and modern medicine, and immigration laws are not a problem. Like Canadians who buy in Florida, you can stay for 6months, then need to return to the US for 48 hours...that's a quick trip via ferry. Bring enough cash and even that can be overcome. The countryside is beautiful with plenty of water, and Halifax is a nice little city.

this bank is proof that investing in any bank right now is lunacy. the published results are pure fiction. even the vultures don't want the bank.

good morning
corus will probably be a bff maybe

To atone for my low-brow Onion-like attempt at humor I will now provide a relevant link:
Economist: Return of the Grave Dancers (June 4, 2009)
Private equity has piles of unallocated capital, although it has become much more difficult to wrest undrawn funds from investors. It also has a lot more raw material to work with, as the pace of bank failures accelerates (see chart). Hundreds of lenders will need help to survive but most large banks are too capital-constrained to step in. Those that have raised fresh equity, such as JPMorgan Chase, will use it to repay taxpayers.
Hence the focus on private equity. The favoured strategy is to snap up a small bank, healthy or not, and turn it into a vehicle to scoop up failed local rivals. John Kanas, a veteran banker charged with reviving BankUnited, sees in it the foundation of a regional powerhouse. The Florida market is particularly attractive, he says, as many competitors there are shackled by regulatory or government restrictions.
Investing is still risky. Smaller banks are riddled with commercial-property loans, which are going bad at an alarming rate. American banks’ loan-loss reserves are falling ever further behind actual losses and now cover just 70% of the total, according to Moody’s, a rating agency. But buyers are growing cannier, pouncing only once a bank has been seized and insisting the government shoulders much of the downside in loss-sharing agreements.
The bigger problem for buy-out firms is posed by long-standing restrictions on bank takeovers by non-financial firms. Those unwilling to become bank-holding companies, with the extra regulation that entails, have to make do with a maximum stake of 33% (and voting rights of less than half that). Acquisitions are thus only possible via “club” deals, in which several buyers band together and regulators police the arrangement to ensure they are not acting in concert thereafter.

What could go wrong. However, the private equity firms remind me of people willing to take part in low-level scams; think people willing to trust someone who is going to help them steal cable. Can't come up with a better example at this hour, but like when someone is doing something crooked; and they offer another person to benefit from their crooked action; why trust the con-man?

I'm not well versed on these matters, but seems to m oi the FDIC is attempting to leap a chasm in one try. Corus would be waaaay too big for the FDIC to shutter without having a buyer and buters of this type aren't waiting on a bus in very many places.

Goood moorrrrning Marynam! Blue skies, java, slowly declining asset values. What a state.

Any news from the Front? Aha, Asia bouncing. ASX looks like a third-world exchange at 3%+ up. Do they have a new Glodman's office or something?

C

They're SKYIN' 'EM.....

Green shoots everywhere!!!!!

Morning all!
Looks like another beautiful day here in Scenic South Carolina!
Big smile

Anyone besides gabyjan up for another BFF poll on Fri?

Isn't this what happens when you pump money into Goldman? Goldman than pumps money everywhere else... especially back into the oil trade...

I'm all in for ten (or more?)

The first of a series of Double Digit Doozy BFF

Remind me on Fri and I'll crank up the BFF poll then.
Big smile

Sign of the future in American Health Care?

July 14 (Bloomberg) -- After Hurricane Katrina, Regina Benjamin took only what her patients could afford to pay: bushels of oysters or lumps of Gulf Coast crab meat. Her Alabama health clinic was destroyed and still she helped, navigating through the mud in a pick-up truck to make house calls.

I'll trade a few of my GnomeGrown tomatoes for a house call check up.
Big smile

I can hear the early morning coyote choir tuning up...

Good morning~

NOW SERVING HOT, FRESH NOTHING BISCUITS!

JEDDAH (Reuters) - U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said on Tuesday he saw signs of confidence returning to the U.S. financial sector and pledged that the United States would pursue policies that preserve the dollar's value.

"The policies of the United States are designed to lay the conditions for a strong dollar for more stability in the international monetary system and among the major economies," he said at the Jeddah Chamber of Commerce.

Corus would be waaaay too big for the FDIC to shutter without having a buyer and buters of this type aren't waiting on a bus in very many places.

It's not about finding a buyer for Corus. It's about finding buyers for a bunch of 30-floor condos under construction, 18 floors of rusting steel and rotting drywall, for which there will not be a market for maybe 10 years.

That's mainly what Corus owns.

Jeebus H Kerrrist. Green shootery rampant. Hang Seng tonight set to open up 3.39%. Yerp, US all got morning lumber.

Why do I get flashes of a mad harlequin playing a giant carnival organ?

C

C: more like an organ grinder and a monkey with a tin cup?

HomeGnome: Just think about the valuations of those oysters and crab can be valued at once put on our government's accounting sheet...

a trained monkey who picks the pockets of the crowd

One of the peskiest and easiest to solve problems, is how to go about blowing out the shorts...

There's a good many of you in the crosshairs, sitting ducks~

"One of the peskiest and easiest to solve problems, is how to go about blowing out the shorts..."

I suggest spicy Mexican food.

On a completely different topic, heeeerre's Timmay!

Geithner Says Global Economy Faces Recovery Setbacks (Update1) - Bloomberg.com

Oh, stop, stop, my sides are aching!

This is SNL Middle East Edition, no?

C

U.S. mulling mortgage aid for unemployed

The official told Reuters it was reasonable for policymakers to consider options for loan forbearance -- allowing borrowers to delay, defer or skip payments -- that are more effective than those currently available in the private sector.

The number of failing home loans has been climbing for three years as risky borrowers have defaulted on their easy-to-get loans, property values have sunk and the unemployment rate has climbed.

But the official said the idea, which is still evolving, was difficult from a policy perspective and carries potential hazards. It could help more people struggling with economic difficulty, but it also could create perverse incentives that distort the housing market, said the official, who did not want to speak on the record about internal administration debates.

Goldman knocks the cover off the ball.

Goldman Sachs Has Second-Quarter EPS of $4.93, Beating Estimates of $3.65

And the harlequin starts to foam at the mouth!

Faster goes the carousel, faster, faster...

C

I would argue the safest place to wait this out is in the most depressed parts of the rust belt.

Let's see... reasonably intact, unstressed infrastructure (roads, bridges, canals). Small towns where they don't actually use strangers as sacrifices to the Corn God. Nearby midsized cities with decent hospitals, that never experienced the housing bubble. Streams and lakes to fish in, woods and mountains to hunt in. No hordes of rowdy day laborers hanging around (see again: no housing bubble). Oh, and they're losing population, so they WANT you to come.

Sounds a lot like Upstate NY... the alleged "ninth circle of hell"

So baseball fans, who's it going to be tonight?

AL or NL?

If you have to reassure the creditor of the soundness of your credit..........

If questions keep coiming up as to the soundness of your credit..............

If your creditors begin talking amongst themselves and excluding you....

dont think cit will make it, not part of the gang. its lehmans for cit. got to be team player.

The Fed will find a way to bail out Corus. Didn't they say the world would end if they failed?

Same threat, different day. Same responce from the Fed - throw money at them.

AL or NL?

I think "rain" is going to win.

cit will be fine, unless they're not

The actions of the administration one way or the other will speak volumes of the intent of the over arching strategy.

U.S. June retail sales stronger than expected

U.S. retail sales rose a better-than-expected 0.6% in June, the best gain in five months, the Commerce Department estimated Tuesday. Strong auto and gasoline sales offset weakness in many sectors. The consensus forecast of Wall Street economists was for retail sales to rise 0.5%. Excluding autos, sales rose 0.3%. Wall Street had expected an increase of 0.7%. Excluding gasoline, sales increased 0.3%. Excluding both autos and gas, sales fell 0.2%, the fourth straight monthly decline.

tot man drives over grand canyon

Goldman Sachs = Walrus Carpenter ?

The Walrus and The Carpenter
How I wish Tanta were here to adapt this poem

Hi everyone, I'm back from a looong break, just in time to see GS profiting amid the ruins

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- U.S. producer prices rose 1.8% in June, beating economists' expectations, the Labor Department reported Tuesday. It was the biggest increase since November 2007. Excluding volatile food and energy prices, the index was up by 0.5% in June.

Imagine if every Major League Baseball team were to be propped up in early September by the Feds, no matter what their record?

If a bottom-dweller in the standings had a 56-101 record, the Feds would simply let them turn it around, so they could get in the playoffs...

uh huh,sure, right, whatever. grasping at......

Thank Gawd, now the Cleveland Indians have a chance to make the play-offs!
Sick
"GO TRIBE!"

yer pony runned off and jined the circus

yer pony runned off and jined the circus

Judging from my PnL yesterday (short stocks, long oil), it got sent to the glue factory.

volker
that was his other pony.

Just reading over the comments from last night...about Costa Rica, they do have a military. Not a big one, but very well equipped. They try to recruit American officers all the time to come down and train their army, especially pilots. As to why people go down there, if you have never been (which by the way I haven't this is all second hand so anyone who has been feel free to correct me) the country is divided into sections. The tourists and expats live in a little city that is very much like a European coastal community. Lots of shops, restaurants and the like. You can get a house, and staff down there for fairly inexpensive although the price has gone up recently. Buying property is not hard, but it requires some hoop jumping and a demonstration of financial resources and if you don't live in the expat area, which you don't have to by any means, it can be cheaper. Over all Costa Rica has a very European feel to it. A person I know who visits often said it is because the European settlers who came exterminated all the locals. The 'natives' are actually all imported labor. Don't know how true that is but if it is then paradise again was built with blood. I am torn with trying to leave for somewhere new or staying and fighting. Having lived all over the world, people are people just different flavors for the most part...but America has always had a different feel from the rest of the world...I would call it hope...but that world evidently means something else these days.

Buy the rumor, sell the news? Where are the green shoots going? I heard that Amerika (aka GS) just reported a blow-out quarter...

I hope you got some well-deserved rest, Vonbek.

To give you an idea of the joys of owning a pony, a friend does construction and he's obviously hurting for business, and last year I was talking to him one day and asked how things were?

He told me that business was so dead, he was reduced to digging holes in the ground with his backhoe for a couple of people whose horses had expired.

The Fed will find a way to bail out Corus.

There's no way to bail out Corus. There's nothing left there except mismanagement, theft and regulatory neglect.

It never was a real bank of any size or substance. It was just a way to funnel FDIC-insured depositors to speculative developers while enriching a few people at the top for awhile.

Now that the private equity vultures have been called in, I'm officially upping my forecast for FDIC-insured losses on Corus, from $5 billion to $6 billion. It is one of the biggest embarrassments in FDIC history.

"I am torn with trying to leave for somewhere new or staying and fighting."

.........it seems a large number of transplants here have tried the Mexico/SoAmer residence thing before moving here. ALL were disillusioned with the graft, constant bribes required, the constant worry about their investment "tomorrow", the idiocy of the sponsoring country's government, and the entire life episode wasn't what they had envisioned. ALL returned disappointed that the "failed and expensive experiment" hadn't worked. One purchased 1/2 ownership in a Cabo bar & hotel, another a 1000 hectare farm and cattle ranch (which interested me), another a curio shop in the interior, and another a restaurant and bar in Baja.

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