Hawaii is in big trouble. Island occupancy continues to plummet, esp. off Oahu. And to compound the problem, the state legislature just approved an increase in the hotel room tax. That'll get more tourists to beat a path out to the middle of the Pacific.
• Hotel-room tax (SB1111 SD1 HD1 CD1): Increases the transient accommodations tax by 1 percentage point in July — from 7.25 percent to 8.25 percent — and another 1 percentage point in July 2010 — to 9.25 percent. The higher rate applies through June 2015.
On the plus side, they'll always have meth, kine bud, and a great real estate industry. Because on the Big Island at least, they are making more land...,
Most foreclosures in my area are borken into by illegal Mexicans, I guess they figure it is better then Mexico, the cess pool of a country they all claim to like so much. The sell off stolen pieces of the house and then go to bars with the money, I saw a couple of illegals selling roof shingles ripped off the forclosure they were squating in.
It is Hawaii, after picking a couple of morning guavas, go out and catch some fish for lunch and then take a nap, I don't think the locals are too worried.
Staying in CRE but moving to SPG (sorry if repost), it's a great time to be opening new retail centers apparently. No wonder their forward P/E is in the mid 40's
Simon Expands Camarillo Premium Outlets(R)
INDIANAPOLIS, April 23 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Simon Property Group, Inc. (NYSE: SPG) announced that it opened The Promenade at Camarillo Premium Outlets(R) this morning in Camarillo, California. The 220,000 square-foot expansion brings the property to a total of 674,000 square feet of gross leasable area (GLA) and 160 stores.
A ribbon cutting ceremony with company and city officials was held kicking off a four-day 'Expansion Celebration' which will run through Sunday, April 26 featuring entertainment, promotions, and more. The center is located in Ventura County, north of Los Angeles, directly off Highway 101 at the Las Posas exit.
The Promenade is anchored by Neiman Marcus Last Call, a new merchant at the center. Saks Fifth Avenue Off 5th has relocated to a larger store with a new store design. Gap Factory Store has also relocated to a larger suite in The Promenade. New stores include: Aldo, Charlotte Russe, Columbia Sportswear Company, Converse, Crocs, DC Shoes, Ecco, Esprit, Etnies:exs, Journeys, Karen Kane, Le Creuset, Loft Outlet, Michael Brandon, New Balance, Papaya, Rack Room Shoes, Robert Wayne Footwear, Tommy Bahama, Vans, and Zumiez.
The new stores join an already impressive list of outlet stores including Adidas, Banana Republic, Barneys New York, BCBG Max Azria, Betsey Johnson, Brooks Brothers, Calvin Klein, Coach, Cole Haan, Diesel, DKNY, Giorgio Armani, Hugo Boss, J.Crew, Juicy Couture, Kenneth Cole, Michael Kors, Nike, Polo Ralph Lauren, Restoration Hardware, St. John, Theory, and Tommy Hilfiger.
"Camarillo Premium Outlets, which has long been regarded as one of the industry's most productive outlet centers, today becomes one of the largest," said John R. Klein, CEO of Simon's outlet division Chelsea. "The Promenade enables us to fulfill merchant demand for new space as well as the desire by stores to expand existing space. The Promenade provides area residents and visitors the chance to purchase even more quality brands at great savings and this growth has created many new jobs."
In addition to the more than 1,000 jobs the project created during construction, The Promenade will add over 400 new retail jobs to the community. Camarillo Premium Outlets is already one of the largest generators of sales tax in Camarillo, and this project will generate incremental revenue for both the city and the county.
Camarillo Premium Outlets opened in 1995 and has expanded several times. With this latest expansion, the center is now the second largest property in the Chelsea portfolio. Chelsea is the world leader in upscale outlet shopping, with 49 Premium Outlet Centers in 22 states, Japan, Korea, and Mexico. See Sorry. Page not found. for more information.
Agreed, the Hawaii locals aren't too worried. But the locals have been yammering about Hawaii for Hawaiians for decades now. They might finally get their wish !
Tourism related jobs have been estimated to be one of every eight jobs. And when they start to go away, there's not a lot of other booming industry in the islands to pick up the slack. And you aren't exactly mobile out there either. It's either the mainland, or make it work. Still gotta have grindz, have a roof, and pay da property tax.
Family and I are going for a road trip, Jollymiddleamerica, in July. With a full tank of gas I have no idea what to expect beyond, but I'll be asking for discounts everywhere.
OT, thanks for the Joe Bageant ref on the last thread. I've always thought of him as a Garrison Keillor of "that place", and it would not hurt if more people read him to get a better notion of flyover east.
Around the biz park here the hotel building went into FRENZY state about 3 to 4 years ago. Within a mile radius there are like 17 hotels ?!!?
Seriously 17 ?!? One exit down the freeway and there's another 8 or so (!!!) I expect that to drop a little, while the number of occupied business premises out paces the number of hotels.
We decided to start flying anywhere we find a cheap ticket in the US. I don't care if it is Oklahoma City. Fly out, rent a car, drive around that part of America, go home. Maybe 3 days at most.
swamp otis wrote:
"there is only a depression if you admit it."
Wasn't that a line from the Matrix ?
"Do not try to fix the economy; that's impossible. Instead only try to realize the truth: There is no depression."
The sigificant other is allergic to US airports, and then again allergic to freeways. In fact, she's allergic to space. I'm just easing her into our state fair world. And then we'll split and get back to live sea creatures for dinner.
Any idea what the hotel occupancy rates are in Dubai? I'm told they have some beautiful man made islands there. Just think, you could be stranded on your very own desert island.
CR, have you ever considered including the data from STR's Pipeline report. You make mention of how hotel construction is being impacted. STR seems to publish a report each month with exactly this data. A .summary of the data series in one of your fantastic graphs would be interesting
STR reports US hotel pipeline for March 2008
15 April 2009 9:42 AM
HNN Newswire
HENDERSONVILLE, Tennessee—The total active U.S. hotel development pipeline includes 5,187 projects with 551,610 rooms, according to the March 2009 STR/TWR/Dodge Construction Pipeline Report released this week. This represents a 17.1-percent decrease in the number of rooms in the total active pipeline compared to March 2008. The total active pipeline data includes projects in the In Construction, Final Planning and Planning stages, but does not include projects in the Pre-Planning stage.
“The largest change comes from the Mountain region due to the cancellation or deferring of projects in Las Vegas such as the 5,000 room Crown Hotel and Casino and the Echelon project,” said Marcella Quaglia, supervisor of STR Pipeline Department. “The Southern U.S. and Pacific regions also have slowed in large part due to the resort nature of these locations.”
Railfax just did their latest Rail Report. BTW, it is free.
The little bump up in rail traffic has turned down. I watch a long freight train go by every night. A little of empty cars and lumber/car carriers these days.
Yancey Ward wrote on Thu, 4/23/2009 - 2:47 pm reply
I knew someone would think of a better response. Somehow I just do not see them as hanging out at the bar and "soul searching." Would they have a meeting?
"Vindaloo - where are you going?"
"Oh hey, to the soul searching meeting."
"You new guys crack me up. You still got yours huh?"
I guess they don't use steel in new hotel projects, excerpt from Nucor press release:
"We have seen business and market conditions worsen each succeeding month"
from September to March, the company said. Heading into the second quarter,
"both the U.S. economy and steel market conditions have continued to
deteriorate," it said. It blamed continued low operating rates, lower pricing
and the consumption of high cost pig iron inventories" at sheet mills for its
weak outlook.
Why has Harry Markopolos been shut up?
Why was Madoff forced to plead guilty? It's because they don't want their dirty laundry aired in public. It's against tribal rules.
a) Does it mean, that FED & Treasury do have some balls left to tell the bankers what to do & when? (if so, not everything up there is so dare and there is a slight trace of hope that they will have balls to do the right thing - kill zombies )
b) Does it mean, that CEO's are so delusional that they believe markets & the rest of us will continue taking for granted any lie they produce? (still positive because the grand scale of such a lie indicates that they are running of space and are pretty much cornered by their arrogance - spells imminent zombi suicide, how insane one must be to dodge a ball into the last hand that feeds you - government)
the finale must be near, Privatization here we come....
p.s. wish someone asked him a question, "are you insane or what...?"
AP Source: Freddie Mac CFO told to take time off
AP Source: Human resources told Freddie Mac official to take time off before suicide
...A human resources official met with David Kellermann on Tuesday and told him he needed a break ...........
Now it's getting weird. Human resources is in the picture. Was Kellermann told to meet with human resources? Since when would human resources tell an employee to take a "break?" Undoubtedly, human resources gave Kellermann his longevity options with Freddie Mac as well.
I'm loving the AAPL trade, some at 105, 90 and 85. I was a bit early last fall, but my time frame was a year out so I'll take it. SRS is looking especially attractive right now below 28. With SPG's recent movement et al, I just am not sure if I'm missing something in this sector or more likely I just need to be patient waiting for the news to meet my expectations.
April 23 (Bloomberg) -- Federal Reserve regulators expressed concern in December about Bank of America Corp.’s “ability to remain stable” while the lender was trying to back out of its deal to buy Merrill Lynch & Co., according to minutes of the bank’s Dec. 30 board meeting.
Have you noticed there has not been much chemical spraying over your heads these past couple of days? It may be because of Earth day. Here in SW Florida the sky's are noticeably absent of chemical con-trails. How does it look in the sky's over your neighbor hoods? If you get a chance, see the new video in my signature line.
It's true. It is always good to take a little time off before suicide. Smell the roses.
It would be highly unusual for human resources to "tell" the CFO, acting or otherwise, to "take a break." That's what executive management is paid the big bucks for.
Wonder what a human resources official goes for these days?
"Tourism related jobs have been estimated to be one of every eight jobs. And when they start to go away, there's not a lot of other booming industry...."
.........reminds me of the ghost town previously known as Las Vegas.
"Scientists Making Better Milk Cow"
"The genetic blueprint of domestic cows has been decoded in a scientific feat that traces bovine evolution and may lead to more nutritious milk, meat and increased food supply, scientists reported.
......why does this scare the crap out of me? "Scientists" have been taking the nutrition out of milk for 70-years and I tend to like the cow the way it is now, thank you. Why must people mess with stuff that ISN'T broken? Why can't they confine their "repairs" to stuff that IS ?
I think about sept/oct last year I first mentionned that my daily commute passes by a future Hampton Inn that despite nearly six months of site work was still moving earth.
Today they are STILL moving earth (major issues with sewer/water/rock). Ouch!
I'm contributing to hotel revenue by staying at a private residential cottage when I'm in San Francisco next month. Found it on Craigslist. No taxes and extremely reasonable rate.
"The number of U.S. businesses and individuals declaring bankruptcy is rising with a vengeance amid the recession, despite a three-year-old federal law that made it much tougher for Americans to escape their debts..."
OT:
The Federal Reserve started buying up mortgage backed securities in November and then on March 18th expanded the size of the program to $1.25 Trillion by the end of the year. The total amount of residential mortgages outstanding is just under $11 Trillion, about half of which is held or backed by the GSE’s. The actual mortgages held by the GSE’s is roughly $1.5 Trillion, with the remainder securitized and guaranteed. However, one would have to add in the paper backed by Ginnie Mae as well. The total amount of Fannie Mae (FNM), Freddie Mac (FRE) and Ginnie Mae paper outstanding is about $5 Trillion. The rest of the mortgages are either held as whole loans on the books of banks and S&L’s or are in private label securitizations (where the really crappy toxic waste is). So just using some back of the envelope calculations it looks like by the end of the year the Fed will own about one quarter of all the GSE related paper outstanding. It also suggests that if the Fed were not buying up all this paper, the number of mortgages that could be made would be sharply lower than they already are. There does not seem to be a lot of demand in the private sector for this paper. Given that home prices are still falling, and unemployment and delinquencies are still rising, one might worry about the credit risk the Fed is taking on. After all historically the Fed invested in nothing but T-bills. The Fed addressed the issue in its FAQ about the program (The page cannot be found.
"Does the agency MBS program expose the Federal Reserve to increased risk of losses?
Assets purchased under this program are fully guaranteed as to principal and interest by Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and Ginnie Mae, so the Federal Reserve's exposure to the credit risk of the underlying mortgages is minimal."
This is an absolute knee slapper. Don’t worry, the paper is guaranteed by Fannie and Freddie. That is supposed to give us comfort? They somehow neglect to mention that FNM and FRE happen to be on life support from the Treasury to the tune of $200 billion each.
popeye, those don't seem to be valid comparisons...Especially the UE numbers, we all know they were calculated differently back then and would more closely correlate with our current U6 numbers which are over 15% right now. Seems like a whitewash job to try and calm the sheeple..
Very silly comparisons, Popeye. To take just one example, under "economic decline" in the left hand column we've got the total decline for the entire 1929-1933 period and we compare that to the decline from 2Q to 4Q of 2008.
If you think the "recession" was over in the fourth quarter of last year and you've got convincing evidence to back your stance, fine. Otherwise it's an absurd exercise.
"OT, thanks for the Joe Bageant ref on the last thread. I've always thought of him as a Garrison Keillor of "that place", and it would not hurt if more people read him to get a better notion of flyover east."
I could not recommend his book Deer Hunting With Jesus more highly.
A very insightful read.
"BEIJING - With Jamaica's currency in free fall, unemployment soaring and banks heavily exposed to government debt, the Caribbean island's diplomats went into crisis mode earlier this year. They traveled to all corners of the world to seek help.
Jamaica's traditional allies, the United States and Britain, were preoccupied with their own financial problems, but a new friend jumped at the opportunity to come to the rescue: China.
When contracts for loan packages totaling $138 million were signed between the two countries in March, China became Jamaica's biggest financial partner. Headlines in Jamaica's leading newspapers, which only a year ago were filled with concern about China's growing influence in the region, gushed about its generosity."
..........
"It is very possible that the Beijing Consensus can replace the Washington Consensus," said Cui Zhiyuan, a professor of public policy at Tsinghua University who edited a recent book on the subject. "Since the crisis, the world doesn't have as much confidence in the U.S. economic model as before."
I know China is trying to secure more natural resources durring the downturn by lending to hard hit developing countries, but why Jamaca? Are they trying to get a secure supply of Ganja?
Well, we know where his allegiances are:
"Larry Summers falls asleep during Obama’s meeting with credit card executives.
Today, President Obama met with credit card industry officials at the White House. After the meeting, he pledged to push for a law that would offer "strong and reliable" protections for credit card users in the United States. He called the session with the industry executives "open and productive conversation." However, one person who seemed less than interested in the meeting was White House economic adviser Larry Summers, who fell asleep. From the pool report:
President Obama met with credit card industry officials in the Roosevelt Room. You have a list of who was at the table, with Geithner to Obama's right in the middle of the table and Jarrett to his left. At either end were Summers and Romer. Also in the room seated behind Obama were Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel and Gene Sperling, who serves as counselor to Geithner. You will soon have Obama's remarks or can see them on TV.
One thing to note is that Summers appeared to be nodding off near the beginning of Obama's remarks. And then he DID nod off, doing the head on the hand and then head falling off the hand thing. Photogs seemed to be having a field day. All other officials in the room appeared fully awake."
Have you noticed there has not been much chemical spraying over your heads these past couple of days? It may be because of Earth day. Here in SW Florida the sky's are noticeably absent of chemical con-trails.
Right. Because CIA/Military conspirators respect Earth Day. Or maybe it's the "J-people" as you call them.
You are such a loon. I cannot wait until Ken implements filtering.
Anonymous wrote on Thu, 4/23/2009 - 12:33 pm
..."Since the crisis, the world doesn't have as much confidence in the U.S. economic model as before."...
That you can say loudly !
From a highly respected and admired nation (putting man on the moon) to a AAA-lying , bankrupt , mark-to-fantasy and money printing "banana republic" .
What a remarkable journey .
Missed the thread again. For the late readers, then...
Lewis up for re-election.
"Investors cast ballots April 29 on whether to re-elect Lewis to the board and split his roles as chairman and CEO. He’s under fire after the bank spent more than $30 billion on takeovers including Merrill Lynch & Co. and posted a fourth-quarter loss. Directors are concerned the vote may be close and were counting on first-quarter results to bolster support for the bank, people familiar with the matter have said. "
Why build new hotels when the occupancy rate is 57%?
Because you can get a great deal on the parts and labor. Generational opportunity, in fact.
5
Well obviously hoteliers were wise and didn't price to perfection.
Rumor has it that hookers and johns are now using abandoned foreclosures.
Aloha Mr. Hand !
Hawaii is in big trouble. Island occupancy continues to plummet, esp. off Oahu. And to compound the problem, the state legislature just approved an increase in the hotel room tax. That'll get more tourists to beat a path out to the middle of the Pacific.
• Hotel-room tax (SB1111 SD1 HD1 CD1): Increases the transient accommodations tax by 1 percentage point in July — from 7.25 percent to 8.25 percent — and another 1 percentage point in July 2010 — to 9.25 percent. The higher rate applies through June 2015.
honoluluadvertiser.com | Honolulu | The Honolulu Advertiser
On the plus side, they'll always have meth, kine bud, and a great real estate industry. Because on the Big Island at least, they are making more land...,
Mahalo
Ho-bandos?
Patel is bumming out.
Most foreclosures in my area are borken into by illegal Mexicans, I guess they figure it is better then Mexico, the cess pool of a country they all claim to like so much. The sell off stolen pieces of the house and then go to bars with the money, I saw a couple of illegals selling roof shingles ripped off the forclosure they were squating in.
Fed doing an Agency coupon pass tomorrow. Size of those has been all over the map ... worth watching.
Hawaii is in big trouble. LOL.
It is Hawaii, after picking a couple of morning guavas, go out and catch some fish for lunch and then take a nap, I don't think the locals are too worried.
Why do we do most things we do these days? Because in bizarro world it all makes perfect sense.
Staying in CRE but moving to SPG (sorry if repost), it's a great time to be opening new retail centers apparently. No wonder their forward P/E is in the mid 40's
Simon Expands Camarillo Premium Outlets(R)
INDIANAPOLIS, April 23 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Simon Property Group, Inc. (NYSE: SPG) announced that it opened The Promenade at Camarillo Premium Outlets(R) this morning in Camarillo, California. The 220,000 square-foot expansion brings the property to a total of 674,000 square feet of gross leasable area (GLA) and 160 stores.
A ribbon cutting ceremony with company and city officials was held kicking off a four-day 'Expansion Celebration' which will run through Sunday, April 26 featuring entertainment, promotions, and more. The center is located in Ventura County, north of Los Angeles, directly off Highway 101 at the Las Posas exit.
The Promenade is anchored by Neiman Marcus Last Call, a new merchant at the center. Saks Fifth Avenue Off 5th has relocated to a larger store with a new store design. Gap Factory Store has also relocated to a larger suite in The Promenade. New stores include: Aldo, Charlotte Russe, Columbia Sportswear Company, Converse, Crocs, DC Shoes, Ecco, Esprit, Etnies:exs, Journeys, Karen Kane, Le Creuset, Loft Outlet, Michael Brandon, New Balance, Papaya, Rack Room Shoes, Robert Wayne Footwear, Tommy Bahama, Vans, and Zumiez.
The new stores join an already impressive list of outlet stores including Adidas, Banana Republic, Barneys New York, BCBG Max Azria, Betsey Johnson, Brooks Brothers, Calvin Klein, Coach, Cole Haan, Diesel, DKNY, Giorgio Armani, Hugo Boss, J.Crew, Juicy Couture, Kenneth Cole, Michael Kors, Nike, Polo Ralph Lauren, Restoration Hardware, St. John, Theory, and Tommy Hilfiger.
"Camarillo Premium Outlets, which has long been regarded as one of the industry's most productive outlet centers, today becomes one of the largest," said John R. Klein, CEO of Simon's outlet division Chelsea. "The Promenade enables us to fulfill merchant demand for new space as well as the desire by stores to expand existing space. The Promenade provides area residents and visitors the chance to purchase even more quality brands at great savings and this growth has created many new jobs."
In addition to the more than 1,000 jobs the project created during construction, The Promenade will add over 400 new retail jobs to the community. Camarillo Premium Outlets is already one of the largest generators of sales tax in Camarillo, and this project will generate incremental revenue for both the city and the county.
Camarillo Premium Outlets opened in 1995 and has expanded several times. With this latest expansion, the center is now the second largest property in the Chelsea portfolio. Chelsea is the world leader in upscale outlet shopping, with 49 Premium Outlet Centers in 22 states, Japan, Korea, and Mexico. See Sorry. Page not found. for more information.
Conversely, hotel homicides are on the rise.
@GiezCubed: That makes perfect sense as well in Bizarro World. Well done, SPG. Well done.
Agreed, the Hawaii locals aren't too worried. But the locals have been yammering about Hawaii for Hawaiians for decades now. They might finally get their wish !
Tourism related jobs have been estimated to be one of every eight jobs. And when they start to go away, there's not a lot of other booming industry in the islands to pick up the slack. And you aren't exactly mobile out there either. It's either the mainland, or make it work. Still gotta have grindz, have a roof, and pay da property tax.
In Atlanta, Irrational Building Exuberance - WSJ.com
Looking at the chart, I think I see a "green shoots" headfake.
ah, so that explains why marriot (MAR) is up 12% today. is today opposite day? i didn't get the memo.
nice stock action today.
real economy down.
fake economy up.
there is only a depression if you admit it.
Arbitrage Macht Frei, your wit reminds me of an old erudite friend named smekhovo.
Family and I are going for a road trip, Jollymiddleamerica, in July. With a full tank of gas I have no idea what to expect beyond, but I'll be asking for discounts everywhere.
OT, thanks for the Joe Bageant ref on the last thread. I've always thought of him as a Garrison Keillor of "that place", and it would not hurt if more people read him to get a better notion of flyover east.
sam2,
Is that Buckhead or Butthead ?
Around the biz park here the hotel building went into FRENZY state about 3 to 4 years ago. Within a mile radius there are like 17 hotels ?!!?
Seriously 17 ?!? One exit down the freeway and there's another 8 or so (!!!) I expect that to drop a little, while the number of occupied business premises out paces the number of hotels.
Anak,
We decided to start flying anywhere we find a cheap ticket in the US. I don't care if it is Oklahoma City. Fly out, rent a car, drive around that part of America, go home. Maybe 3 days at most.
swamp otis,
prozac nation
swamp otis wrote:
"there is only a depression if you admit it."
Wasn't that a line from the Matrix ?
"Do not try to fix the economy; that's impossible. Instead only try to realize the truth: There is no depression."
SPACE JAM is in progress...
Nova, thanks.
The sigificant other is allergic to US airports, and then again allergic to freeways. In fact, she's allergic to space. I'm just easing her into our state fair world. And then we'll split and get back to live sea creatures for dinner.
Any idea what the hotel occupancy rates are in Dubai? I'm told they have some beautiful man made islands there. Just think, you could be stranded on your very own desert island.
Oils well that ends well.
CR, have you ever considered including the data from STR's Pipeline report. You make mention of how hotel construction is being impacted. STR seems to publish a report each month with exactly this data. A .summary of the data series in one of your fantastic graphs would be interesting
STR reports US hotel pipeline for March 2008
15 April 2009 9:42 AM
HNN Newswire
HENDERSONVILLE, Tennessee—The total active U.S. hotel development pipeline includes 5,187 projects with 551,610 rooms, according to the March 2009 STR/TWR/Dodge Construction Pipeline Report released this week. This represents a 17.1-percent decrease in the number of rooms in the total active pipeline compared to March 2008. The total active pipeline data includes projects in the In Construction, Final Planning and Planning stages, but does not include projects in the Pre-Planning stage.
“The largest change comes from the Mountain region due to the cancellation or deferring of projects in Las Vegas such as the 5,000 room Crown Hotel and Casino and the Echelon project,” said Marcella Quaglia, supervisor of STR Pipeline Department. “The Southern U.S. and Pacific regions also have slowed in large part due to the resort nature of these locations.”
Hotel News Now | Hotels News - Article
Bloomberg Title
Derivatives Bankers ‘Search Souls,’ Seek to Avoid Future Crises
Corrected Title
Derivatives Bankers ‘Search for a Soul,’ Seek to Avoid Future Crises
nova,
Search for, then steal.
Government ultimatum sealed Merrill deal: Cuomo letter
Paulson threatened to oust Bank of America CEO if he pulled out of acquisition
Reading that article got me thinking this seems like a tactic of
" Hey look over here " as the Market Tanks and Economy tank even further.
Railfax just did their latest Rail Report. BTW, it is free.
The little bump up in rail traffic has turned down. I watch a long freight train go by every night. A little of empty cars and lumber/car carriers these days.
How are the airlines doing?
Derivatives Bankers ‘Search for a Soul,’ Seek to Avoid Future Crises'
More like
Derivatives Bankers "Search for a method to secure bonuses,’ Seek to Avoid Future drops in their income"
Yancey Ward wrote on Thu, 4/23/2009 - 2:47 pm reply
I knew someone would think of a better response. Somehow I just do not see them as hanging out at the bar and "soul searching." Would they have a meeting?
"Vindaloo - where are you going?"
"Oh hey, to the soul searching meeting."
"You new guys crack me up. You still got yours huh?"
"There is no depression" SBUX $12.58 ..... +0.75% ...... p/e (ttm) 56.90
sorry,
+$ 0.75 +5.41%
As somebody said earlier, go long lawyers.
Yahoo! 404 - Page Not Found
Calif. AG sues Wells Fargo for $1.5 billion
Re logistics, here in Hong kong there's an alternative provider to homeless pets who vows no one animal will be "put down".
She's been swamped with repatriating ex-pats hoping they can leave guilt free, and has had to put out a community appeal for loving homes.
In related news, int'l movers are having a bang up season come the end of the school year.
Sign of the times, I suppose. For me it's nap time to get ready for another day.
I guess they don't use steel in new hotel projects, excerpt from Nucor press release:
"We have seen business and market conditions worsen each succeeding month"
from September to March, the company said. Heading into the second quarter,
"both the U.S. economy and steel market conditions have continued to
deteriorate," it said. It blamed continued low operating rates, lower pricing
and the consumption of high cost pig iron inventories" at sheet mills for its
weak outlook.
Whatever happened to Harry Markopolos?
Why has Harry Markopolos been shut up?
Why was Madoff forced to plead guilty? It's because they don't want their dirty laundry aired in public. It's against tribal rules.
Markopolos: I gift wrapped and delivered the largest Ponzi scheme in history to the SEC
YouTube - Markopolos: I gift wrapped and delivered the largest Ponzi scheme in history to the SEC
"high cost pig iron inventories"
sam.2
Peak Pig Iron!
a question on Bank of America CEO testimony..
a) Does it mean, that FED & Treasury do have some balls left to tell the bankers what to do & when? (if so, not everything up there is so dare and there is a slight trace of hope that they will have balls to do the right thing - kill zombies )
b) Does it mean, that CEO's are so delusional that they believe markets & the rest of us will continue taking for granted any lie they produce? (still positive because the grand scale of such a lie indicates that they are running of space and are pretty much cornered by their arrogance - spells imminent zombi suicide, how insane one must be to dodge a ball into the last hand that feeds you - government)
the finale must be near, Privatization here we come....
p.s. wish someone asked him a question, "are you insane or what...?"
look at the cof short covering wwow getting tasty.
cof - Google Search
AP Source: Freddie Mac CFO told to take time off
AP Source: Human resources told Freddie Mac official to take time off before suicide
...A human resources official met with David Kellermann on Tuesday and told him he needed a break ...........
Now it's getting weird. Human resources is in the picture. Was Kellermann told to meet with human resources? Since when would human resources tell an employee to take a "break?" Undoubtedly, human resources gave Kellermann his longevity options with Freddie Mac as well.
I'm loving the AAPL trade, some at 105, 90 and 85. I was a bit early last fall, but my time frame was a year out so I'll take it. SRS is looking especially attractive right now below 28. With SPG's recent movement et al, I just am not sure if I'm missing something in this sector or more likely I just need to be patient waiting for the news to meet my expectations.
Nucor - You dont see CNBS or B-Berg picking up on that green shoot, er, rusting weed.
Any idea why this came out today?
April 23 (Bloomberg) -- Federal Reserve regulators expressed concern in December about Bank of America Corp.’s “ability to remain stable” while the lender was trying to back out of its deal to buy Merrill Lynch & Co., according to minutes of the bank’s Dec. 30 board meeting.
Human Resources gets involved in Leave issues all the time. It's a part of their job.
Ahhh, Larry Summers. The gift that keeps on giving. He really should retire and rest his weary head:
Think Progress » Larry Summers falls asleep during Obama’s meeting with credit card executives.
Comrade Dazed and Amused, I've been following it ... I'll probably add the pipeline report to a larger hotel posts - maybe after GDP is released
best wishes
Have you noticed there has not been much chemical spraying over your heads these past couple of days? It may be because of Earth day. Here in SW Florida the sky's are noticeably absent of chemical con-trails. How does it look in the sky's over your neighbor hoods? If you get a chance, see the new video in my signature line.
Elmo's back in town, and he's got an ornery look about him.
Someone want to let me in on the news to cause institutionals to dump SHLD again?
Comparisons between this economic recession and the Great Depression
How this recession matches up to the Great Depression - CNNMoney.com
It's true. It is always good to take a little time off before suicide. Smell the roses.
It would be highly unusual for human resources to "tell" the CFO, acting or otherwise, to "take a break." That's what executive management is paid the big bucks for.
Wonder what a human resources official goes for these days?
"Tourism related jobs have been estimated to be one of every eight jobs. And when they start to go away, there's not a lot of other booming industry...."
.........reminds me of the ghost town previously known as Las Vegas.
"Scientists Making Better Milk Cow"
"The genetic blueprint of domestic cows has been decoded in a scientific feat that traces bovine evolution and may lead to more nutritious milk, meat and increased food supply, scientists reported.
......why does this scare the crap out of me? "Scientists" have been taking the nutrition out of milk for 70-years and I tend to like the cow the way it is now, thank you. Why must people mess with stuff that ISN'T broken? Why can't they confine their "repairs" to stuff that IS ?
nova, sounds like Bennie Boy trying to divert attention from his pressuring of Lewis to buy ML.
CR, that looks like a sustained depression level drop to me.
Headline from the BBC:
Dead ponies 'got wrong medicine'
That says it all, folks.
--kinda sad, though ...
this story never ends - Chrysler on the brink...
U.S. SAID TO SEEK A CHRYSLER PLAN FOR BANKRUPTCY - NY Times
I hear the Jas Lounge at the Hotel Tehachipi offers free happy hour to born & bred dopers.
Someone want to let me in on the news to cause institutionals to dump SHLD again?
I think Rain Man said it best - Kmart sucks!
I think about sept/oct last year I first mentionned that my daily commute passes by a future Hampton Inn that despite nearly six months of site work was still moving earth.
Today they are STILL moving earth (major issues with sewer/water/rock). Ouch!
I'm contributing to hotel revenue by staying at a private residential cottage when I'm in San Francisco next month. Found it on Craigslist. No taxes and extremely reasonable rate.
Well, can I have a dead pony then?
America The Beautiful, a little late to the party to cover their ass.
"The number of U.S. businesses and individuals declaring bankruptcy is rising with a vengeance amid the recession, despite a three-year-old federal law that made it much tougher for Americans to escape their debts..."
Decisions by consumers often seem to defy logic - Baltimore Sun
Michael,
Do I have to worry about helocopters?
OT:
The Federal Reserve started buying up mortgage backed securities in November and then on March 18th expanded the size of the program to $1.25 Trillion by the end of the year. The total amount of residential mortgages outstanding is just under $11 Trillion, about half of which is held or backed by the GSE’s. The actual mortgages held by the GSE’s is roughly $1.5 Trillion, with the remainder securitized and guaranteed. However, one would have to add in the paper backed by Ginnie Mae as well. The total amount of Fannie Mae (FNM), Freddie Mac (FRE) and Ginnie Mae paper outstanding is about $5 Trillion. The rest of the mortgages are either held as whole loans on the books of banks and S&L’s or are in private label securitizations (where the really crappy toxic waste is). So just using some back of the envelope calculations it looks like by the end of the year the Fed will own about one quarter of all the GSE related paper outstanding. It also suggests that if the Fed were not buying up all this paper, the number of mortgages that could be made would be sharply lower than they already are. There does not seem to be a lot of demand in the private sector for this paper. Given that home prices are still falling, and unemployment and delinquencies are still rising, one might worry about the credit risk the Fed is taking on. After all historically the Fed invested in nothing but T-bills. The Fed addressed the issue in its FAQ about the program (The page cannot be found.
"Does the agency MBS program expose the Federal Reserve to increased risk of losses?
Assets purchased under this program are fully guaranteed as to principal and interest by Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and Ginnie Mae, so the Federal Reserve's exposure to the credit risk of the underlying mortgages is minimal."
This is an absolute knee slapper. Don’t worry, the paper is guaranteed by Fannie and Freddie. That is supposed to give us comfort? They somehow neglect to mention that FNM and FRE happen to be on life support from the Treasury to the tune of $200 billion each.
popeye, those don't seem to be valid comparisons...Especially the UE numbers, we all know they were calculated differently back then and would more closely correlate with our current U6 numbers which are over 15% right now. Seems like a whitewash job to try and calm the sheeple..
Very silly comparisons, Popeye. To take just one example, under "economic decline" in the left hand column we've got the total decline for the entire 1929-1933 period and we compare that to the decline from 2Q to 4Q of 2008.
If you think the "recession" was over in the fourth quarter of last year and you've got convincing evidence to back your stance, fine. Otherwise it's an absurd exercise.
nova, only if they are black helicopters...
"OT, thanks for the Joe Bageant ref on the last thread. I've always thought of him as a Garrison Keillor of "that place", and it would not hurt if more people read him to get a better notion of flyover east."
I could not recommend his book Deer Hunting With Jesus more highly.
A very insightful read.
to clear up the confusion CR is "Calculated Risk" not "Chemtrails Resistance"
"BEIJING - With Jamaica's currency in free fall, unemployment soaring and banks heavily exposed to government debt, the Caribbean island's diplomats went into crisis mode earlier this year. They traveled to all corners of the world to seek help.
Jamaica's traditional allies, the United States and Britain, were preoccupied with their own financial problems, but a new friend jumped at the opportunity to come to the rescue: China.
When contracts for loan packages totaling $138 million were signed between the two countries in March, China became Jamaica's biggest financial partner. Headlines in Jamaica's leading newspapers, which only a year ago were filled with concern about China's growing influence in the region, gushed about its generosity."
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"It is very possible that the Beijing Consensus can replace the Washington Consensus," said Cui Zhiyuan, a professor of public policy at Tsinghua University who edited a recent book on the subject. "Since the crisis, the world doesn't have as much confidence in the U.S. economic model as before."
In crisis, China asserts influence - Washington Post- msnbc.com
Larry Summers, working hard for YOU
Lullaby And Goodnight - Dealbreaker - A Wall Street Tabloid - Business News Headlines and Financial Gossip
Bank of Japan Governor Shirakawa says U.S. has a long row to hoe, implies policy errors:
BOJ’s Shirakawa Says U.S. Faces ‘Painful’ Adjustment (Update2) - Bloomberg.com
Fed loses 30% on Bear ABS:
Zero Hedge: Fed Reports Over 30% Loss On Bear Stearns Mortgage Loans
I know China is trying to secure more natural resources durring the downturn by lending to hard hit developing countries, but why Jamaca? Are they trying to get a secure supply of Ganja?
jamaica is a bauxite producer
is larr a snorer?
lending to hard hit developing countries, but why Jamaca? Are they trying to get a secure supply of Ganja?
Jerked chicken and port access...
Dirk: to establish a foothold in the Caribbean. Maybe put a naval base there?
Well, we know where his allegiances are:
"Larry Summers falls asleep during Obama’s meeting with credit card executives.
Today, President Obama met with credit card industry officials at the White House. After the meeting, he pledged to push for a law that would offer "strong and reliable" protections for credit card users in the United States. He called the session with the industry executives "open and productive conversation." However, one person who seemed less than interested in the meeting was White House economic adviser Larry Summers, who fell asleep. From the pool report:
President Obama met with credit card industry officials in the Roosevelt Room. You have a list of who was at the table, with Geithner to Obama's right in the middle of the table and Jarrett to his left. At either end were Summers and Romer. Also in the room seated behind Obama were Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel and Gene Sperling, who serves as counselor to Geithner. You will soon have Obama's remarks or can see them on TV.
One thing to note is that Summers appeared to be nodding off near the beginning of Obama's remarks. And then he DID nod off, doing the head on the hand and then head falling off the hand thing. Photogs seemed to be having a field day. All other officials in the room appeared fully awake."
wasn't that cheney's mo, pullin' the z's while w waxed eloquent
CMON..... 8,000.... YOU CAN DO IT.
Michael wrote:
Have you noticed there has not been much chemical spraying over your heads these past couple of days? It may be because of Earth day. Here in SW Florida the sky's are noticeably absent of chemical con-trails.
Right. Because CIA/Military conspirators respect Earth Day. Or maybe it's the "J-people" as you call them.
You are such a loon. I cannot wait until Ken implements filtering.
kermit
Stress Test Homework Assignment
FDIC Quarterly Banking Profile - Fourth Quarter 2008
caution it is a PDF file
http://www.fdic.gov/bank/analytical/quarterly/2009_vol3_1/Quarterly_Vol3No1_entire_issue_FINAL.pdf
Anonymous wrote on Thu, 4/23/2009 - 12:33 pm
..."Since the crisis, the world doesn't have as much confidence in the U.S. economic model as before."...
That you can say loudly !
From a highly respected and admired nation (putting man on the moon) to a AAA-lying , bankrupt , mark-to-fantasy and money printing "banana republic" .
What a remarkable journey .
rocket ship primed for launch to 8000.....
3....2....1.....blast off!
Missed the thread again. For the late readers, then...
Lewis up for re-election.
"Investors cast ballots April 29 on whether to re-elect Lewis to the board and split his roles as chairman and CEO. He’s under fire after the bank spent more than $30 billion on takeovers including Merrill Lynch & Co. and posted a fourth-quarter loss. Directors are concerned the vote may be close and were counting on first-quarter results to bolster support for the bank, people familiar with the matter have said. "
Bank of America’s CEO Loses Connecticut’s Support (Update4) - Bloomberg.com
I'll bet shareholder's are like US voters, who vote their 401k's. Its so bad to be cheated out of your ponzi gains. I feel their claim.
"Lewis up for re-election."