CR,

The purchase index is down more than 20% from its peak. If that translates to a similar decline in existing home sales and new home completions (not sales), then we are looking at a 6.2 million number for existing single family home sales + new single family completions, down from a peak of 8 million. Currently we are running at about 7.4 million. If we dropped to 6.2 from here that is quite a drop. I dont think the markets are anticipating that kind of a drop.

Rates at the long end are down, but rates at the front end are up - naturally. The ARM share of mortgages is down considerably, though not nearly back at the share seen in the 1998-early 2004 period. The decline in share is a good thing, but I wonder why anybody is borrowing through ARMs to save roughly 50 bps, at most.

I'll tell you who is going ARM instead of fixed. I am. It saves me $18,000/yr

HW, the 50bp spread that k harris cites is about right, yes? The benefit of a fixed rate seems so inexpensive, downright cheap --until you come up with $18,000/ year.
I used to think that only speculators would turn the fixed mortgage down. Then I thought only serious speculators would. Then I thought only desperate speculators would.
Can you supply some more details?

Calmo, look at the graphs I linked to and see when a 30yr FRM has ever been as cheap as a 1yr ARM is today, or even back through '02. The answere is essentially "never".

Nothing is obvious to me except: Markets work on fear & greed, AND the dumbing down of America is indisputable. Gamble away folks, but you're doing your families an extreme disservice if you're calling what you're doing wise.

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