I'm very interested in the CRE restrictions. As an example, the Order instructs Fremont to stop loaning money to people that aren't paying them. ROFLOL. That sounds ugly.

And on condos: "Within 90 days from the effective date of this ORDER, the Bank shall revise, adopt, and implement a written lending and collection policy to provide effective guidance and control over the Bank’s commercial real estate lending function, which policy shall include a planned material reduction in the volume of funded and unfunded nonrecourse lending and loans for condominium conversion and construction as a percentage of Tier 1 capital. Such plan shall ultimately reduce nonrecourse funding to no more than 200 percent of Tier 1 capital and the funding of condominium conversion and construction loans to no more than 100 percent of Tier 1 capital within two years."

Best to all.

Tanta, From the previous thread... Can you comment on the following FDIC cease & desist order levied against FMT? What I would realy like to know is whether this same order would apply now across the board for all FDIC insured S&Ls.

In particular the following issues:

(i) qualifying borrowers for loans with low initial payments based on an introductory or “start” rate that will expire after an initial period, without an adequate analysis of the borrower’s ability to repay the debt at the fully-indexed rate;

(ii) approving borrowers without considering appropriate documentation and/or verification of their income;

(iii) containing product features likely to require frequent refinancing to maintain an affordable monthly payment and/or to avoid foreclosure;

(iv) including substantial prepayment penalties and/or prepayment penalties
that extend beyond the initial interest rate adjustment period;

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FDIC is laying out the roadmap for all of the other thrifts. It is... "the new paradigm".

You think you saw tightening guidelines and confusion out there in brokerland today? Tomorrow will really get interesting.

If this is the new set of rules then there probably isn't a traditional lender that can measure up. They are all potentially subject to this type of order, correct?

Longs are yawning at this on the Yahoo boards, but I think this is news. Fremont was trying to spin things a few says ago by saying "It's just subprime... It's just residential..."

Not anymore. FDIC wants to make it clear, that it will look in every room of a dirty house.

So what happens next? Can Fremont close down (file bk & send the keys to the FDIC)? Does FDIC let them off that easy?

From an operational perspective that is.

It one thing to order a hemorrhaging patient to get better, a whole other thing to actually stop bleeding.

Any ideas?

How much Tier 1 Capital does Fremont have?

Mozo Maz,

I agree with you on the new paradigm. This reads like a best practices list from the guidance issued last week.

I think this is the most significant element, though contemplating further issuance of 50% DTI loans is not comforting:

"The initial revisions to the Bank’s residential loan policy and practices,
required by this paragraph, at a minimum, shall include the following:
(i) Provisions which require that the Bank’s analysis of a
borrower’s debt-to-income ratio include an assessment of the borrower’s ability to meet his or
her overall level of indebtedness and common housing expenses, including, but not limited to,
real estate taxes, hazard insurance, homeowners’ association dues, and private mortgage
insurance. In addition, the Bank’s qualifying standards shall include an analysis of the
borrower’s ability to repay the debt at the fully indexed rate, assuming a fully amortizing
repayment schedule. The Bank shall not increase the 50 percent debt-to-income ratio set forth in
its loan policy, and to the extent that the policy allows routine extension of loans resulting in
higher debt-to-income ratios, shall reduce such ratios to 50 percent."

barely, that list of concerns is going to be in everybody's safety and soundness examinations from here on out; that much is clear.

However, I don't think anyone should assume that another institution who has been making loans of that type will necessarily get a C&D. They'll get negative exam findings if they haven't already seen the writing on the wall and straightened up their loan guidelines. But the list of out and out terrifyingly unsafe and unsound things FMT was up to, as indicated in this order, is well beyond the issues raised in the Nontraditional Mortgage Guidance or the Subprime Guidance. It's clear, for instance, that FMT wasn't simply making some loans that fall under the Guidance. It appears that most if not all of their loans were of that sort. No acceptable operating policies and procedures, no acceptable method for establishing loan loss reserves--it even looks like FMT couldn't cough up loan files for the examiners to review. (Examiners generally select files they want to look at from reports or data tape; the lender then pulls the files chosen for review. I have the impression that there was almost nothing in those loan files at all.) And the business about broker approval and putback tracking: that sounds as if FMT got caught continuing to fund loans for brokers who had already had loans put back to them, or that should have been put back. And, of course, it appears that the true number of nonperforming loans in the portfolio is ungodly (see the dollar amounts and timetable on which they are to reduce those numbers). And, of course, the C&D comes right out and calls current management incompetent. I'm guessing that FMT put together a "management team" high on "sales ability," low on risk management or just basic banking experience. Good grief, Charlie Brown.

This is just way over the top stuff. As CR notes, they've been extending new credit to defaulted commercial borrowers! I think it's thus hard to assume that FDIC or any other regulator would come down as hard on another lender making "nontraditional" mortgages if the other lender weren't engaging in such other disastrous behavior. I think, personally, the FDIC would prefer less drastic action than a C&D, although they've clearly shown that they'll do it, which is good.

Dryfly,

I think this is a loss mitigation and adult supervision exercise for the FDIC. At the end of the day, they are on the hook for the deposits, so they want to maximize the value of the assets and stop any further value destruction asap.

Implicit in this is a judgement that current management does have the right stuff as in:

"Each member of management shall have qualifications and experience
commensurate with his or her duties and responsibilities at the Bank. Management shall
include a chief executive officer with proven ability to manage a bank of comparable size, and
experience in upgrading a low quality loan portfolio, improving earnings, and other matters
needing particular attention"

and if the board doesn't step up and find someone ASAP, the FDIC will have a candidate of their own (either a turnaround hired gun or a retired bank CEO) to "suggest" to the board and they won't end the meeting until he/she is installed in office. I'm sure there are others with more knowledge of the bank regs than me, but I think the feds can come in and call the shots if things get bad enough - it seemed to me that sort of thing happened in New England in the early 90s.

All of that is by way of saying that, in my view, they're just toast. I just cannot believe that anyone is going to make a serious offer for their subprime business. They'll have to turn the thrift itself around, of course--you can't, actually, just mail in the keys to a regulated thrift. But I seriously doubt that anyone will want a subprime business in the current environment that is this farkled up. You read through the C&D and you get a sense that there wasn't much they were doing right. What's the value of the operation? (Obviously noboby will want to buy the loans; I'm assuming when they've been talking about looking for a buyer, it's just for the origination platform.)

Thanks Tanta. Not as grave as I thought, although I find it difficult to imagine how to assess the potential default risk in a no-doc loan. By definition a no-doc loan is risky.

So that brings me to another question - How might these rules be applied and risk be assessed at other institutions so as to avoid the appearance that FMT was singled out. Will there be a lot of unannounced regulator visits, to audit?

sorry, that should read "current management does not have the right stuff"

50 bps is nothing, but, this is the beginning of what is to come and it ain't gonna be pretty;

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And Tanta, what impact would you expect to loan origination business in general based on these rules? I'm thinking in CA where stated income is the only way many buyers there could get into those frightening loans -- $800K+ in many modest areas. WHat happens to the volume?

barely, I doubt there will be unannounced audits. Every institution gets regular safety and soundness examinations, and as I said, anyone who hasn't already tightened up guidelines is doing so now, so even if they get chewed up a little in their next examination for having these loans in the portfolio, they'll at least be able to claim that as a result of the release of the guidance they made necessary changes. Again, I'm hypothesizing that another institution isn't as much of an overall disaster, from a risk management perspective, as FMT. If they are, I can't imagine that the FDIC won't go after them just like they went after FMT.

I'm just saying that while failure to follow the Nontraditional Mortgage Guidance is clearly part of what got FMT in trouble, I'm not convinced that it would have come down to a C&D without all the other horrors.

I'm quite sure that every thrift out there is reviewing this C&D--in case they got no one on the management team old enough to remember the S&L crisis--to make sure that none of it looks familiar.

What happens to the volume? It goes away, if everybody who is doing stated income is doing it as irresponsibly as FMT. I keep insisting that there's an important difference between "tightening" and a real credit crunch. If suddenly no one wants to touch a CA stated income loan, we're talking crunch and it will not be any kind of fun.

Thanks darlin' Wink You help me make sense out of this huge mess. I am thinkin' 1990 all over again, only on mega-steroids that even Barry Bonds was afraid to use.

At this point, I don't think it really matters to the outfits who are doing stated or no-doc loans if those loans are fundamentally sound or not.

Because what investor right now is going to buy those loans at a price that makes any sense at all to the lenders or prospective borrowers?

The tide has gone out, and sure enough nobody is wearing a dang thing.

I wonder if this will prompt more states to adopt the new guidance? Or will there just be more sticks in the spokes...

Off topic, but since FMT and NEW seem to be discussed hand-in-hand these days I thought I would post this here.

I was informed by an employee at NEW today that Barclay's had agreed to forward NEW $1 billion in order for them to meet some of the covenants in their warehouse line agreements allowing them to reopen most (if not all) of their currently suspended lines. This would allow NEW to continue to operate with full lending capacity.

Does anyone have anything to corroborate or substantiate this comment from their employee?

A) There's no way that Fremont can write 100% stated prime loans and prove that it is meeting the other mandates. The C&D includes mandates for all residential mortgage lending that are not substantially different from the subprime mandates. The C&D also severely restricts commercial real estate practices.

B) There's no way that Fremont can cut back its lending operations so severely and meet the capital/risk reduction programs within the 180-360 day timeline using income from operations.

C) One way it can do so is to sell additional securities, but before it is allowed to do so it will be forced to come up with an FDIC-approved statement about its true financial condition, etc and provide that to buyers. No one's going to buy them.

D) The other way it can do so is raise additional capital from stakeholders, but the shareholders are losing control of the institution so why would they do so?

After reading the whole thing, my conclusion is that Fremont has to give away a huge chunk of its ops for free in order to have a chance to survive as an independent institution at all.

Thank you for the link calmo Smile

According to Fremont's last 10Q they have total Tier-1 Capital of $1,588,748,000.

They have approximately $6 billion in commercial real estate loans outstanding of which 55% are for condo or condo conversions. Meaning about $3.3 billion in loans are for condos. If they must reduce this to 100% of Tier-1 capital in the next two years, they cannot do anymore condo loans.

Ok, I will call shenanigans on the Barclay's rumor.

NEW does have a $1bn line with Barclay's which was due to expire this month. I am betting that it is just a renewal of that existing line.

In any case, that is about 4 days of funding (at 3Q06 rates) if my figures are correct.

And in any case, securing a line of credit would not cause them to have been profitable the last two quarters, which is the covenant they are in breach of.

Barclay's is the second largest institutional owner of FMT and added to it total shares by 18% in the 4th QTR 2006. Here is the major ownership:

Search for a Company Stock Ticker Symbol - MSN Money

I posted on the other board didn't know if youall saw it— if so sorry for the double post....

I guess lenders are tightening up on Alt-A loans now

"csmgcorp: Well I just got my first email from a lender I use quite often. They are upping all requirements for their ALT-A products.

This really hurts..."

"Promise Land: These changes are only the beginning. There may be more noticeable changes in the horizon for this month. Almost all lenders will do away with the 100% Stated and FICO requirements will be higher for Stated. Lets not forget that Reserve requirements will increase, as well. 100% loans in all documentation flavors will pretty much be obsolete for FTHB."

"csmgcorp:No Ratio and No Doc were affected BIG TIME in this update. I just got another similar email..... doesn't look good. This is 90% of my business (alt-a lending)"

Ouch....big time ouch

"Promise Land: The market is just correcting itself. If you go back to the early 90's... there was no such thing as 100% loans and LOs were still making a decent living. All of these exotic loans were introduced in the early 2000's. People will always need a loan whether the rates are 1% or it's 21%. Either they buy or they die. There will always be a huge market for people with imperfect credit who need the house or the cash.

Sure, it's a time for the 'survival of the fittest' if you will and each and everyone of us will need to earn our business. There will be no easy or free meals! That means continuing to educate ourselves, being an advisor to clients, 'actually' marketing and honing the fundamental skills of this profession."

I love this one:

"DANKA: Yes, but look at the prices of what houses were in the 90'ss......
MUCH MUCH less...sorry but with all these program cuts, I dont care what anyone says, a ton of brokers are going to go by the wayside, and banks will NOT be lending money....

It was a lot easier to have 5 percent down 15 years ago on a 150,000 single family home. This same house today is 350,000.00 and believe me, salaries have not risen as fast as home prices did.

Thats why anyone who thinks its going to be a GREAT market has to really think how that could POSSIBLY be...."

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Anthony Fleming: thanks for the link
very interesting

A large percentage of the increase in submission levels is coming in the form of HLTV loans. We are getting a lot of 80/20s and 100% CLTV deals that used to go to our competitors. While there is nothing inherently wrong with those types of loans from a pure credit standpoint, right now they have a fundamental flaw that we simply cannot overcome. That is the almost complete lack of appetite for the product by the bond market.

"I'm guessing that FMT put together a "management team" high on "sales ability," low on risk management or just basic banking experience."

For some reason, I got the sense that they all met each other at a former employer or a trade ass'n, and decided it would be cool to work together. Not that that is any better.

I would really like to know what the following is about:

"operating in violation of section 23B of the Federal Reserve Act . . . , in that the Bank engaged in transactions with its affiliates on terms and
under circumstances that in good faith would not be offered to, or would not apply to, nonaffiliated companies"

I'm half tempted to do a FOIA request. Anyone have any thoughts?

When the broker's wives show up on the chat boards, you know times are tough. This probably captures the change in tone of the market better than anything I've seen. People are reassessing career decisions at this point:

Mortgage Grapevine: Trying to be supportive of a husband in subprime...

Pablo, in regards to the Barclay's line of credit to NEW several articles (Bloomberg) stated that NEW needed waivers from their warehouse lenders in order to continue lending, that they had already received 5 such waivers, and were in the process of securing the additional waivers. It further stated that several waivers were contingent on the other waivers being obtained. Perhaps Barclay's waiver was a lynch-pin for securing the other lender waivers?

Just a thought. Not trying to propogate any rumors, but trying to ascertain the legitimacy of the comment.

Cheers.

AND, read AND, read AND....gosh those who thought that it was was only the subprime business are now sol, they shut the it down!! ..."Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) today announced it had issued a cease and desist order against Fremont Investment & Loan, Brea, California ("Bank"), and its parent corporations, Fremont General Corporation and Fremont General Credit Corporation"

Pretty much sums it up:

I had a loan with Fremont that I need a home for. 65%-70% LTV, cashout refinance, stated income(real estate agent), 2x90 on mortgage in the past 12 months and currently sixty days late. 568 score.

http://forum.brokeroutpost.com/loans/forum/2/100704.htm

"Barclay's is the second largest institutional owner of FMT and added to it total shares by 18% in the 4th QTR 2006."

Clarification: That's Barclays Global Investors, the unit that runs ETFs (under the iShares brand name). So, yeah, they own a lot of NEW, but they own a lot of everything because they are the largest index ETF player in the world -- 1.5 trillion (yes, a "T") assets under management.

Correction: Shoul read "they own a lot of FMT".

Can't keep the dead lenders straight.

Morgan,

I'd love to know which five lenders had signed the wavier and which six were holding NEW's feet to the fire.

If Barclay's really has that much ownership stake in NEW, I can't imagine that they weren't the first to sign the wavier.

But your rumor didn't say that Barclay's had had a change of heart on the wavier, it said they had lent them $1bn.

Which smells fishy to me.

Morgan,

Barclay's is already in for a billion...the probability that they are doing everything in their power to avoid having one additional dollar of exposure to NEW approaches metaphysical certitude. Moreover, no lender is going to act unilaterally here. The governing principle in workouts is "share the pain" - so everyone is going to have show forebearance and put up some more capital if anyone is going to do that. My guess is that unless the Fed forces them to do it, the current lenders are not going to put up any more financing for NEW. Most likely they have been cutting exposure over the last few weeks as the quality of the collateral has deteriorated. The only way capital will go into the company is through bankruptcy. If you review the last few weeks, the bankruptcy court is the only place where people are committing capital for this business (two exceptions FICC - which the stock market seems to think is going to lose its deal and ACC which got a Don Corleone deal from Citigroup for a warehouse line - Citi gets an option to buy the business - probably for a song). Otherwise its a bid for the business in front of the judge, and BTW the wholesale platforms don't seem to be worth a whole lot.

Tanta,

Read Anthony's link on Option One and short HRB on the open! Option One's CEO thinks FMT and NEW are well managed companies. Perhaps he'd like to read the C&D, or the case notes on the NEW criminal investigation.

ot: was that brown shrub towards the right hand side of Calculated Risk's top banner always been there??? or has i really become pessimistic about things in general these days?

ot: was that brown shrub towards the right hand side of Calculated Risk's top banner always been there??? or has i really become pessimistic about things in general these days?

tennis_8,
just a quick FYI, Barclays Bank and Barclays Global Investors are different operations, although related through the parent company. You will see BGI listed as one of the major institutional owners on just about every stock out there because they are one of the largest index fund and ETF managers.

oh, please is it not Goldman that takes the hit under any Ch. 11? Does $1.98B ring a bell?

OT: Anonymous, the photo hasn't changed. BTW, I took that photo hiking near Jasper in the Canadian Rockies.

Best Wishes.

I was in Jasper last weekend of September. Great Place!

always too late to the party but you mean I could have had loans I didn't need to pay on? That would have been a lot more useful to know a couple of years ago...

Just got a offer in the mail today for a 125% of equity loan, pre-qualified but they do want no more than 50% DTI and an appraisal, must show proof of income. The interest rate would only make sense if I was sinking under credit card debt.

I would really like to know what the following is about:

"operating in violation of section 23B of the Federal Reserve Act . . . , in that the Bank engaged in transactions with its affiliates on terms and
under circumstances that in good faith would not be offered to, or would not apply to, nonaffiliated companies"

I don't know exactly what it's about, but in context I'd guess that the problem is the corporate warehouse line to the subprime origination company. In other words, FMT used both outside warehouse lines and an internal line (borrowed from the affiliate thrift). If the interest rate on the internal line was artificially low (which inflates the profitability of the origination sub), or was used to park problems past their sell-by date, or otherwise failed to have the kind of risk-management provisions that the bank would have included if it had provided that warehouse funding to a nonaffiliated third party, then they can be in violation of 23B.

Option One's CEO thinks FMT and NEW are well managed companies.

Yeah, that'd be the Option One who was reporting EPDs of 10% of their total production a year ago.

(SANTA MONICA, CALIFORNIA) – March 7, 2007: Fremont General Corporation (the “Company”) (NYSE:FMT) , a nationwide real estate lender doing business primarily through its wholly-owned industrial bank, Fremont Investment & Loan, in connection with news reports regarding its discussions with respect to the possible sale of its sub-prime residential real estate loan origination platform, said today that there can be no assurance that the Company will be able to enter into any transaction involving its residential loan origination platform.

So it's one thing to lie to your employees, and another thing entirely to lie to the SEC. Well, at least someone fears something.

Tanta - thanks for the answer in the other post.

1) How often do banks get a Safety and Soundness Exam? Given the banking jitters, would FDIC start looking at possible at-risk banks on an expedited basis.?

2) From previous post:

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When a loan "resets" according to contractual terms, there is no requalification of the borrower. The loan terms simply change as they were specified to change in the original loan contract (the note).

If a lender modifies a loan or makes any other change to the original loan's contractual term, then yes, the lender is expected to reverify the borrower's capacity to repay. That will mean that someone who got the loan as "stated" isn't likely to get a modification except with full verification of income and assets. Any lender who is modifying the terms of a stated income loan without forcing the borrower to verify this time is asking to be kicked into the next county by the regulators.

+++++

So let's suppose the stated income borrower can't make the higher nut at reset. And they need to think about a work-out or some other 'dog ate my homwork' adjustment. Could it be that the BANK, now required to use 'verified' income, would require the borrower to pay down the loan to the amount the verified income could support?

How would this play out?

Am I imagining a train wreck that has no chance of happening.

thanks

I can hear that train coming, Hapsburger. Compelling little worry that might keep inventory up for some time.

The frequency of safety and soundness exams varies by the size of the institution, prior ratings, and other things. Generally speaking, the FDIC should be doing some kind of on-site exam of an intitution every 12 months. Not all examinations, though, are S&S--there are also general compliance exams and Community Reinvestment Act exams. You can bet your last dime that FDIC hasn't been budgeted enough lately to do a full S&S every year on every outfit it regulates.

Nobody does a workout by requiring the borrower to pay down the balance. Really, if the borrower's got liquid/cash assets, the borrower is cordially invited to use it to make mortgage payments with. Anyone with enough assets to pay down the balance substantially can refi if they don't like the rate they've got.

The lenders who did both 1) stated income and 2) qualifying at teaser rates are the ones with their asses in a sling, and FMT is the poster child here. They're just screwed. If they verify income (as they must do) as part of the workout process and find that the original "stated" income was a complete lie, they have a borrower who doesn't exactly qualify as a "hardship." If they didn't qualify the borrower at a high enough original payment, then the borrower's increase in expenses are hardly "unexpected," which is the general standard for workouts. Plus, it looks like FMT was using a 50% maximum DTI on the original qualification, which gives them zero room to modify--the FDIC took the time in the C&D order to explain that one to them.

They're just going to have to foreclose. They have no room to forbear or modify, because, as has been said before now, they basically made the original loan at "forbearance" terms. There's no wiggle room anywhere. A train wreck, indeed.

Tanta, that's pretty scary stuff. You're basically saying once a payer is late, any workout will need to be qualified at the fully indexed rate. Is there any flexibility afforded by the FDIC or is foreclosure the only next step available to the lender?

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