Media Inquiries Policy

LOL. CR and Tanta are simply the best!

I really appreciate all the work you and Tanta do on this blog. It really helps to set things straight without the influence of a paycheck. I also quoted you on the last article I wrote and wanted to know if you have any guidelines you want us to follow to give credit where credit is due?

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Keep up the excellent work!!!

Speaking only for myself, Anthony, the usual blogging conventions of providing the link and putting quotations in quotation marks or text boxes is all the credit I need. I have no problem with anyone quoting from my stuff under the usual "fair use" guidelines. Like CR, I object to "content scraping" because it's a form of plagiarism.

But you know, I think the really wonderful thing about the internet generally and blogs in particular is that we can all engage in these cross-blog conversations with each other, and use each others' insights to keep building and refining the collective analysis. Frankly, I personally consider that anything I've written on a blog is in the public realm, and is free entertainment for anyone who chooses to be so entertained. I am not, as paid writers are, financially hurt by someone using my stuff without attribution. I just think it's rude.

The fact of the matter is that I have, in the past, been paid to write. I understand the stresses and aggravations the internet can pose to people who come from the old media environment. What really sent me on the mission that resulted in this post was that I'm actually as pleased as can be that business press reporters are reading this blog and thinking about the things we say here. I just don't want to get suckered into the please-provide-a-comment on today's news story thing, because I've also been there before, and have been made, via bad editing, to sound like a dimwit. (I am perfectly capable of sounding exasperated, thanks, but I rarely sound just plain dumb without selective editing.)

What I have always hoped is that print reporters, as well as other bloggers, would find my posts helpful, interesting, enlightening, maddening, or whatever, and that, should they care to enter a dialog about it, they'd join the comment section. I'm still taken aback by being asked for interviews. I suppose only another complete nerd, as I am, can understand why that seems so bizarre.

Astonishing email. A bunch of loafing journalists are getting interested on you both doing their job.

I'll confess to a bit of envy for the "real" journalists, but I'm happy to see how you are content to keep your anonymity and defend your integrity. Best wishes and I hope you both continue to enjoy your busy retirement / respite. There's always lots to learn from your posts and the comments. Thanks for sharing.

Dear CR and Tanta,

You both, to put it mildly, ROCK THE PARTY! yeah! Go!

Best regards,

Isn't it amazing how reporters always want to question other people's motives yet rarely acknowledge their own?

Keep up the great work, you two!

I genuinely appreciate the thought and work that go into this blog.it is worth my while to check it daily.If the real estate reporter for the Santa Rosa "press Democrat" is actually paid in the high two figures annually,he is vastly overpaid.

Tanta's claws are out today. Yeah.

For me and likely others, your blog is largely a one-way street. You provide data, other forms of knowledge, argument, opinion ... I learn. The issues are important to me and the learning of real value. Thanks as always!

I'm sorry but without mainstream media processing, distortion and bias nothing you've said here makes any sense. Why should anyone believe you if what you say cannot pass muster in the newsrooms of those fine institutions that still... still... still... oh, I get it. Nevermind. Carry on and keep up the good work.

Good to hear the trumpet for this blog as a non-profit service, a public oriented rather than a private/professional service, --a service that owes its strength to people who care more than just about their portfolios.
Civic minded folks...(is that still a common expression?) on the rise.

Dear CR and Tanta,

I have long admired your blog and your dedicated work. I'm sure there are many other people who emphatically agree with me. However, as the old Hungarian saying goes, "weeds grow everywhere." Unfortunately, your very excellence draws unwelcome attention.

Hang in there,

Mike

This is an outstanding post. I agree, CR and Tanta ROCK.

from an avid lurker, with thanks ...

“The power of accurate observation is commonly
called cynicism by those who have not got it.”
George Bernard Shaw

from an avid lurker, with thanks ...

“The power of accurate observation is commonly
called cynicism by those who have not got it.”
George Bernard Shaw

CR, Tanta, thank you for all the great analysis. As an engineer with little economic background (but a lot of curiosity), I come to this site first for insight regarding housing and the economy.

Given the recent unravelling with the subprime market, I guess it shouldn't come as a surprise that the two of you are getting more attention. After all, you have been predicting the current downward spiral for quite some time. Makes you wonder why it was so difficult for mainstream media to see this coming.

I find the two of you (and a few of the regular commenters) to possess a wonderful combination of human qualities - intelligence, humor, civility, patience, and energy. To me, visiting this blog is a therapeutic chance to be with (mostly) like minded individuals. I look forward to many more enjoyable visits to calculatedrisk... Thanks again.

It seems appropriate at a moment like this to thank everyone, especially CR and Tanta. I learn something new every day on this blog. You two are terrific. And the commenters are also exceptional.

I applaud your policy, but still think Tanta missed her true calling as an ass-ripping journalist. Maybe even Pulitzer stuff. Hey, gal, you could do it.

Anyway, thanks again, everybody. All of you rock. Down 'scope!

CR & Tanta-

Thanks for your hard work / hobby / whatever-you-call-it.

I am among those who intuitively understood what goes up must come down. It's easy enough to say, "something bad's gonna happen." You've done far better. You have been providing insight to HOW it happens BEFORE it happens.

My fear is the FDIC will realize they've run out of old school, common sense executives to stick in failed banks. They'll find Tanta, let her name a price, and she'll be put in charge of [name your favorite FI]... and no longer blogging.

-CBam

Echo all of the above. I like to read piggington, mish... and they generally make a reasonable point but this blog seems to have a little more spirit and is a generally more freeform. Basically, I don't get the creepy feeling that I'm being sold to.

Wonderful work, CR & Tanta. Thanks for all of your unrenumerated good & hard work and lighthearted & balanced content. I don't want to be warned that the world is going to stop spinning on its axis tomorrow, and the next day...

I came to the economics internet when I had some money to invest and thought there might be some interesting discussion there. I quickly found out that there are tons of advice out there but tons of not good advice and blogs covering econ were not the place for advice.
This blog is one of a bunch of blogs that I go to every morning as I drink my coffee.
Good writing, good comments and good fun provided for free. What a deal!
I hope you can keep up the work. To me writing a blog on a consistent pace would be impossible. It would be just too damn hard.
Thanks

Looking upon the mainstream financial press of the last few years has been akin to trying to get the skinny from the mainstream media on the whole Iraq thingy. I think 2002 was when I first turned to "the blogs". And the reasons for keep piling up.

I find myself coming to this blog more and more frequently. Not only to read the stories without the spin, but to read the nuggets in the 'comments section' too. You just can't get this timely information anywhere else. I bring it to the weekly investment committee meetings at my firm.

The mentality of 'don't worry, everything will be okay' in the MSM is mind boggling. Not to pile on journalists, however I will anyway, but it seems the headline writers are determined to slant the news to be positive rather than truthful.

They'll note that the "economy continues to generate jobs", but they will intentionally(?) fail to note that the trend is negative and the quality of the jobs created is low. Not just employment headlines, but there are many other instances of economic data being twisted. For example, like XYZ Company that beat EPS estimates, but the story fails to note that guidance had already been lowered and revenue was down. Questions aren't asked, and discrepancies don't matter. The state of journalism during this decade has deteriorated considerably.

I read CR because investigative journalism is dead. There are still "reporters" though. They go straight to the appointed spokespople in power organizations for quotes, and dutifully report them.

Can't stand watching newscasts anymore. I can learn much more and much faster, by reading. If something needs to be conveyed visually, link it with a media file, thanks.

I read CR because investigative journalism is dead. There are still "reporters" though. They go straight to the appointed spokespople in power organizations for quotes, and dutifully report them.

Can't stand watching newscasts anymore. I can learn much more and much faster, by reading. If something needs to be conveyed visually, link it with a media file, thanks.

PS, don't hit F5 to refresh the comments after making a posting. You'll create a double post. Smile

CR, I'm glad you nailed those guys!

Go Tanta!

The blogs are the fermenting media from which change comes. Like press in the days when there was a small time newspaper in every town and several individual ones in a city.

I am honoured to be able to post here and listen in. Once exclusively, these were private musings in expensive restaurants by elites. This is democracy or information theory or both in action. Evolution in action.

This is like the coffee houses of the 20s, where labourers and poets and disgraced politicians and revolutionaries gathered to talk.

There is change in the air, what was will be no longer, business as usual is unusual.

This is a part an agent of that change.

Thanks to CR for hosting it. Thanks to the experts who truth tell and thanks to us all for this oracle.

I'm still grateful for Tanta explaining the difference between a Gin-n-Tonic and a Big Mac, or what was that anyway?

CR/Tanta 2008

Why do folks feel that they need to come to blogs? Why is it that the MSM is an entity of ill repute? Well, let's allow David Rockefeller a few words:
"We are grateful to the Washington Post, NY Times, Time magazine & other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings & respected their promises of discretion for almost 40 years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated & prepared to march towards a world govt. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite & world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries." -- David Rockefeller, Baden-Baden, Germany 1991.

This was found in an article by Harry Schultz within the following:
A Warning from Harry Schultz

My blogs cover the Sacramento region, and I've had two occasions where the Sac Bee wanted to quote me for a story. Both times they asked for my full name etc. Both times I declined. Both times they printed the quote anyway. One time they even listed my URL.

Feel free to quote me without my title and current employer. Otherwise I will take the fifth, unless you bring a fifth and a good expense account.

I have been called the little cloud of dismal sunshine on the job, and I have a deservedly prickly reputation for making predictions about failures of persons/programs/pols. So the people I work with have learned not to ask unless they really want to know what is the most likely outcome, with a dismal spin on it. My mother told my wife within hours of meeting her never to bet me. I guess that was passing the MIL test.

Seriously, I hang out here because I used to hang out a few other places and this place has some of the best down to earth participants around. If I want unreasoning idiocy, I can go to frrrreeep for ten seconds and have my fill.

As for the MSM folks, they are the last to know anything;-} If the economist calls and sends asymmetric, I might be interested as she could fit right in here with the free for all.

Government exists to keep five percent of the population from harming the other 95 percent, and to cover up the leaderships booboos. Not much else gets done within the allotted time. Now are you protecting the public or your bosses butt?

CR and Tanta:

Nicely said!

The only thing that springs to mind after reading all of the comments is:

Jeez, these reporters are lazy.

If they just looked in the CR archives for "Information is Power, which is why you don't get any." thread, they could answer their own question(s) about the contributors here and the general sentiment towards the Mainstream Media.

CR & Tanta,

I'll add my thanks. Since I work more than full time I cannot read everything that I would like. Your blog and the high quality comments are my window into how this mess is unwinding.

tanta rocks!

a regular lurker, occasional poster

CR & Tanta,

Thanks for all the work.

I also gave up on MSM about the time of the Iraq war. If you are selective with finding the good blogs you will get fast and accurate information. This one is definitely top notch.

Take for instance the Anna Nicole Smith funeral. Rome is burning and all you find on MSM is this kind of sh!t. Good grief, no wonder people who want to be informed turn to blogs.

Heere Ye Heere.
Understand that a good percentage of those employed are employed for a reason - they plod along to maintain a monetum, nothing more nothing less. In some circles this/they would be called dead wood.
A long time ago, while I was managing my own marketing/communications firm I too was enticed into giving ideas, sharing thoughts, and spending time with clients to suduce business. Wrong. I was the one being suduced.
Example: I was invited to a "Preferred Retreat" where 12-14 key suppiers were hosted for a two day retreat to brainstorm on new ideas and approaches. I bought it. I played for the first day and on the second, I woke up to the fact I was being played to give ideas/concepts for free, for the blessed grace of being associated with this blue chip consumer products company. I left the "retreat".
Dead wood craves nothing more than moisture to sustain their carrers because they having nothing from within to give that is new or inciteful. Reality - I would say upwards of 25% of most corps are nothing but dead wood.
Pay to play, or go home.
I love your blog. The adverts do not offend me. Get more! Make some hay. But at all costs refuse to raise the moisture content or commonsense of all that dead wood out there.

"I have the same questions many of your bloggers did. What is co-issuing and does that really remove WFC from any risk from these loans?"

I know this guy -- saw him this afternoon, in fact. He was in front of me in line at the post office, yakking on his cell phone while taking 5x the alloted time to fill out certified mail forms (which should have been completed even before he walked through the front door).

In fact, I see him every day, in one manifestion of rude behavior or another.

What an extraordinary Declaration of Independence! Thomas Jefferson is smiling in heaven. Okay, smiling in the part of heaven reserved for slave owners who sired several children by their black mistress, but smiling nonetheless.

The sickening thing is that it exposes the "mainstream media" as a bunch of low-talent [rhymes with bores] whose self-imposed job description is "Toady-on Dude!"

Wow.

Could be worst.

Often folks will take desperate job seekers assign them a problem in theory to see how good they are but in practice a theft of their time and intellect.

Just to show how incredibly easy it is to slide into racist postures, my comment above should say, "slave mistress".

I apologize for having written it the way I did.

Boats against the tide.

I am honoured to be able to post here and listen in.

Me too. Nice work CR & Tanta.

CR and Tanta,

What an interesting post. Thanks for taking us behind the curtain of the blog/MSM nexus. I have two observations to add to the ideas above:

  1. CR and Tanta have decades of experience; most MSM reporters don't. It's understandable that many (most? almost all?) MSM reporters can't hang with CR and Tanta on many issues discussed here. But that's true for most of us. The value of this blog starts with the expertise and good judgment of the moderators.
  2. But if this were just a site where CR and Tanta posted without allowing user comments, then I’d venture very few of us would show up. The power of a blog like this, in my view, derives from the hosts posting views which can be instantly challenged. Statements, data, logic can be refuted or corroborated. Many minds are brought to bear upon a problem; many voices debate the truth of a matter.

In my view, a number of conclusions follow from #1 and #2:

  • The MSM can do #1 (the voice of expertise, authority) but in its present form it doesn’t do #2 very well. For the most part, the MSM message is broadcast one-way. The speakers come from the elites. Blogs are messy, democratic, peer-to-peer things. Sometimes the result is dross (Yahoo message boards) and sometimes you get a “wisdom of the crowds” effect (this site).
  • Furthermore, the MSM message is shaped to maximize profit. If the message happens to be true, great, but if the truth doesn’t sell or it drives away advertisers . . . . A blog like this isn’t compromised by the profit motive. CR and Tanta can write whatever their hearts desire and disseminate it to a wide audience at very little expense (overlooking the opportunity cost of their time). Boss can’t fire them. Investors can’t threaten them.
  • Lastly, the MSM is in a bind. Do they join, ignore or destroy blogs. The few attempts I’ve seen where a MSM player (e.g., Time) takes up blogging doesn’t work. I think it goes back to the profit issue; the MSM blogger isn’t truly free, and the audience knows it. The MSM can’t ignore blogs, because a large audience is moving away from paying for MSM publications and broadcasts. So, I believe, that leaves us with a battle between the corporate oligarchs and the citizen bloggers. But that’s a discussion for another day.

To sum up, I come to this blog daily because of CR, Tanta and a number of other intelligent contributors. I still refer to the MSM, but increasingly, this site and others like it draw my attention. For CR or Tanta to play the quotable expert game with the MSM would be a step back.

Shorter still: we don’t need your stinkin’ quotes.

FWIW

There is a more or less genteel fight going on out there between US capitalism and something else. You see it in the software arena between MS and Linux. You see it in the Blogs vs Media. The idea that there is something beyond doing it for a buck to enhance the power and glory of some elite.

Since you mention you are are always willing to reject suggestions for postings, how about a backgrounder on acronyms?

TIA stumps me...

thanks for all you do

TIA = thanks in advance. Finally! A question on this blog which I am qualified to answer! I will now STFU... Wink

Thanks to CR, Tanta, and all the great posters here. Heck even the trolls are interesting... sometimes.. Smile

Great post.
Thank you CR and Tanta for the wonderful blog.
Blogs are great because they remove the logical falicy of appealing to authority. We don't know who CR and Tanta are. They could be lying about their credentials for all we know but their credentials don't matter. What matters are the ideas and information. As the marketplace of ideas sifts through the wheat and throws away the chaff, we see CR rise to the top.

Tanta as the Man in Black "Inconceivable!" CR as the Dread Pirate Roberts quite possible

Terrific post! Referrals to 'Miss Manners' may also help.

Just to give the devil its due, the part of the reason that they want to interview you is to provide a counterpoint to shills like David Lereah. Just as the fact that he works for the NAR is an important factor in deciding how much creedence to give his arguments, knowing who you and/or Tanta are would give readers an equivalant basis to examine your arguments for bias. So there's nothing wrong or unexpected with their ASKING. ONCE. POLITELY. Of course asking again and again hoping for a different answer strikes me as the actions of an 8 year old child. Problem is, you've got a very large supply of potential foster children here and if you have to tell the ALL no individually, you have a reason for your testiness.

MtHood, wonderful wrapup. Thanks.

Daily lurker. No "pleases" here, just "thank you".

vader: You see it in the software arena between MS and Linux. You see it in the Blogs vs Media.

Having shoveled code for a living and having contributed to open source projects, there is definitely a similarity between dedicated bloggers and dedicated open source programmers. They are both just doing something they love to do -- making the world a better place. Programming at a large corporation is like making art with the Plumber's Union.

Sometimes the truth is no match for the profit motive. I am grateful to have a couple of battle-scarred corporate veterans sharing their wisdom.

Beautiful post. Well said. Thank you. And thanks also to Laurent Guerby for pointing me to it.

CR,

There may even be bloggers so delusional innovative that they still have hopes that the Big Media, print or online, will quote directly from their blog postings and provide links (text or hypertext, as the format allows) so that Big Media’s readers can be directed to the blog for further information.

Well this has been done a few times. Wasn't there some article that talked about ben jones' bubble blog? Sometimes there are references to blogs in newspapers. Not en masse, that's for sure. But why do they still do it sometimes?

I took the liberty to copy/paste a big chunk of your post:

European Tribune - Community, Politics & Progress.
(english)

Médias et blogs - Le blog de Laurent GUERBY
(french)

Keep up the good work!

I'd like to add my appreciation for the existence of this blog. I hope you see fit to continue it for a long time.

On the "sense of entitlement":

As a young man with little sexual experience, I once asked a friend, "How do you get women to sleep with you?" He answered, "I ask them."

Reporters have learned if you ask people, they'll give you good quote. And if the experience of being quoted isn't so good, well, the experience of the women my friend slept with wasn't so great, either. Some people will say no. That's OK. The reporter doesn't have to quote everyone. My friend didn't have to sleep with everyone, either. You just need enough. Historically, enough people have liked the idea that what they say will be published that they responded to reporters for free.

Reporters haven't yet internalized that people who get to publish what they want on the 'net no longer have a motive for responding to them.

OMG that was priceless! I read the whole thing three times! I am going to bookmark it so I will not lose it!

CR and Tanta, thanks for making my day.

But you do accept tips now!

CR & Tanta,

Came across your blog, thanks to Google, and now i am a frequent visitor. Thanks to your knowledge and insight i understand current economic crisis much better.

I blog too, and there may be occasional hyper links pointing your way in my posts.

Admire your integrity in being anonymous and apologize for not being able to contribute to the tip jar at this stage of my life.

mp said --

I applaud your policy, but still think Tanta missed her true calling as an ass-ripping journalist. Maybe even Pulitzer stuff. Hey, gal, you could do it.

I just visited this blog for the first time this morning, courtesy of a link from Arthur Silber. This post was the first thing I read. I'm impressed with the wit and intelligence on display in this post.

mp, I submit that you insult Tanta greatly by making reference to the Pulitzer Prize. Any self-respecting writer knows the Pulitzer is about sales, not quality. Any self-respecting writer would not consider the Pulitzer an honor. I'm not even a paid writer, just a hack blogger, but I've read enough and written enough and analyzed enough writing to know that the Pulitzer is like the literary Nobel -- it's about sales, promotion, commerce. It has nothing to do the quality of one's writing, analysis or insights. NOTHING.

Tanta and CR, I value high-caliber writing, wit and intellect and I am going to be visiting this blog daily from here forward. Your observations about lazy journalists, the value of blogging and internet communal discussion, and the integrity of those who engage in those things are valuable, wise and accurate. I am looking forward to learning more about the matters that each of you takes the time to think about, analyze, and write about.

Thanks for doing this.

I recently found your blog and find its contents to be both compelling and informative. UberNerd entries are great! I also quite agree with with the vast majority of the ideas and sentiments expressed in your Media Inquiries Policy. No doubt, I would find it more than irksome to be contacted by a journalist who asked me to do their job with not even so much as a "please."

All the foregoing notwithstanding, there were a couple of things I took issue with, the first being that you folks say you do this as a "hobby" and that the "modest ad revenue" goes to things like offsetting the costs of hosting. I never knew that Google charged for hosting. Is that something new? And, while we're on the subject of "modest ad revenue" would you care to say how much outfits like Travelers and the folks touting options trading strategies and investment research pay for their banners? By the way, do you tell the IRS that your blog is a hobby? I hope not, because if you do, they will probably disallow all of the deductions taken in connection with it.

In any event, my point: I certainly don't begrudge your use of a blog as an income-generating endeavor -- in fact, I applaud it -- but please don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining. The "hobby" and "modest ad revenue" spiels are disingenuous. The next time some snarky journalist from Big Media asks you to do their work for free, tell him or her the same thing you probably would have told a competitor in the mortgage business if they asked you for your client list -- and spare the rest of us the need for waders!

Tanta,

Lovely post. Apologies for the fan-boy comment, but I must ask - your writing style betrays what seems to be a classical education in the liberal arts, perhaps knowledge of Latin, and dare I say it, Greek?

The skilled use of the old (very old) rhetorical and stylistics tricks are in your post: tricola, asyndeta, anaphora, paraprodoskian, variatio, apostrophe, etc etc. My favorite is your wonderful dry wit and irony--what the Romans called urbanitas.

Just lovely.

awesome, especially the information I should provide if I am indeed a Nigerian prince....

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