Wikipedia: U.S. Housing Bubble

Wikipedia never ceases to amaze. Thanks for the reference!

What was Lareah smoking that day?

I saw no mention of bubbleblogs on wikipedia nor their influence which I believe to be considerable.

A recent sample of 100 stated income loans which were compared to IRS records (which is allowed through IRS forms 4506, but hardly done) found that 90% of the income was exaggerated by 5% or more. MORE DISTURBINGLY, ALMOST 60% OF THE STATED AMOUNTS WERE EXAGGERATED BY MORE THAN 50%. These results suggest that the stated income loans deserves the nickname used by many in the industry, the “liar’s loan.”

  1. 37.2% of non-agency mortgage backed securities were no document loans in 2005 .
  2. 49.3% of ARMS with interest only features originated in 2004 lacked full documentation.
  3. As of September 2005, Adjustable rate Mortgages (ARMs) accounted for roughly 70% of the prime mortgage products originated and securitized and 80% of the subprime sector.
  4. In 2006 97.5% of borrowers are likely to face a payment shock of at least 25% and 75% of borrowers could face a shock of 50% or more. These changes neglect additional shocks that would result from the repayment of principal because of current interest only payments!
  5. Payments will increase on 41% of the outstanding subprime loans in 2006 alone.
  6. As of March 22, 2006 53.1% of interest only ARMS had a prepayment penalty.
  7. 70% of borrowers with Option ARMs (Arms that allow negative amortization) are currently making minimum payments.
  8. In 2004 $600 BILLION of consumers’ spending power was from borrowing against home values. That is double the value of President Bush’s tax cuts, as estimated by Brooking Institution scholar Peter Orzag.
  9. 2nd homes accounted for 14% of new mortgages in 2004; in 2000 it was only 7%. Mr. Greenspan said that the fact that someone can sell a 2nd home without moving, “suggests that speculative activity may have had a greater role in generating the recent increases than it customarily has had in the past.”
  10. Residential housing now makes up 16 percent, or $1.9 trillion, of the gross domestic product and is the economy's largest single sector, slightly bigger than the industries and services that supply health care.
  11. In 2005 the FBI convicted only 170 people nationally for mortgage fraud. In 2004 that number was 172 people. According to the FBI the hot spots for Mortgage Fraud activity in 2004 (per capita) were: California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, Colorado, Missouri, Illinois, Maryland, Georgia, and Florida.
  12. In the San Francisco Bay Area alone, almost 75% of mortgage loans taken out last year (2005) allowed borrowers to delay the payment of principle. Negatively amortized loans jumped to 29% of the Bay Area mortgage market from less than 10% in 2004.
  13. Employment in housing and related industries accounted for about 43% of the increase in private sector payrolls since the economic recovery began in November 2001. The number of job losses could be significant given the role the hosuing sector has played in the current recovery .
  14. The following chart shows the percentage of Bay Area loans that wer
  1. The following chart shows the percentage of Bay Area loans that were interest only or Option ARMs (know as negative amortization).

Year\t\tInterest Only\tOption Arm
2005\t\t42.6%\t\t29.1%
2004\t\t43.7%\t\t9.6%
2003\t\t20.3%\t\t0.8%
2002\t\t12.0%\t\t1.7%
2001\t\t2.9%\t\t1.6%

Other than that, there's no reason to be concerned.

Can we now say that the anti-bubble reports were not analysis or anything of the sort, but BS propaganda disseminated by an overtly biased organization? Those reports justified prices every single market of the 135 they looked at. For San Diego, the report says that it would take interst rates at 6% and the loss of 100K jobs, or 7% rates w/ 36K jobs lost, or 7.5% w/ 4K jobs lost for prices to decline 5%. Has SD lost 100K jobs? For DC, where prices have already fallen almost 5%, the claim is interest rates at 7.1% and the loss of 295K jobs to see a 5% decline!

These reports were pure fantasy, and it burns me up that nobody is calling them out for what they are except on these blogs.

Lereah has always been the "ignore the man behind the curtain!" in his prognostications. But now he know's that he can't blow smoke anymore, and he's slowly conceding bubble deflation and wistful dreams of a soft landing. When he says things might be getting bad out there in some markets, you KNOW they're downright ugly.

Lama,

Thank you!

What is the source for the information you posted?

Nikki,

"These reports were pure fantasy, and it burns me up that nobody is calling them out for what they are except on these blogs."

I did.

Bubble Meter: Discredited: National Association of Realtors' Anti Bubble Reports

David
Bubble Meter Blog

what you fail to realize is that 9/11 changed everything. Your analsis of prices reverting back to the standard regression is soooo pre-9/11. Those who think prices will ever go down are terrorist sympathizers.

What's amazing is the article on Yahoo's weekend articles from business week talking about the option arms. Apparently banks count the full amortized monthly payment as revenue (and profit) while the homeowner only pays the option payment. These then get sold to Hedge Funds bundled with other securities since Hedge Funds manage risk. Right.

I want to know how this will not affect banks or hedge funds. How about S&L mixed with LTCM?

Isn't Wikipedia where anyone can put in there whatever they want?

I periodically ask about Villa Park, a small established upscale Orange County, CA town. My understanding is that present inventories have stretched to 10 months (active listings/pending sales), but selling prices have NOT dropped one dime from their highs.

bailey, according to Ben's blog prices there have dropped 183%.

Get with it, sonny.

Lama,

Those reports fail to count "Dark Matter" as income...an obvious oversight.

patrick, Think about what you're suggesting!

bailey you must be a troll house flipper with toxic loans on underwater shitboxes. This winter will be a bloodbath with at least another 236% haircut gauranteed.

Debate over.

This will all end in tears.

Mr. Campbell,
The source was a letter written to
Steven Krystofiak, President of the Mortgage Brokers Association for Responsible Lending.
I exchanged emails with him after he posted elsewhere (I believe we posted on the now infamous Toddi Gutner piece where she touted a voodoo scientist Michael Youngblood who predicted FL real estate would surge another 47% or so in 2007.
Check out the article. It will come up if you use the two names in a search. I posted some simple technical analysis there (I'm pretty simple).
Here are his footnotes:
http://www.mari-inc.com/pdfs/mba/MBA8thCaseRpt.pdf, page 15 of adobe document, July 17th, 2006.

What else is new? ARMs Dominate Subprime Mix, INSIDE B&C LENDING (Bethesda, MD), Jan. 20, 2006, at 4.

Observed by The Center for Responsible Lending.

2006 Global Structured Finance Outlook: Economic and Sector-by-Sector Analysis, FITICH RATINGS CREDIT POLICY (New York, N.Y), Jan. 17, 2006 at 12.

http://www.federalreserve.gov/SECRS/2006/May/20060516/OP-1246/OP-1246_37_1.pdf, page 10, June 15th, 2006.

http://www.federalreserve.gov/SECRS/2006/May/20060516/OP-1246/OP-1246_37_1.pdf, page 10, June 15th, 2006.

Study through The Center for Responsible Lending (CRL), which analyzed Loan performance data on March 22, 2006

Ruth Simon, A trendy mortgage falls from favor – Demand for option ARMs, which helped fuel boom, wanes amid rising rates, growing risk, THE WALL STREET JOURNAL, November 29, 2005, at D1.

Greg Ip, Greenspan warns of reliance on housing loans, THE WALL STREET JOURNAL, September 27, 2005, at A1.

Greg Ip, Greenspan warns of reliance on housing loans, THE WALL STREET JOURNAL, September 27, 2005, at A1.

David Leonhardt, Boom in Jobs, Not Just Houses, as Real Estate Drives Economy, THE NEW YORK TIMES, July 9, 2005

Federal Bureau of Investigation - Press Release December 14, 2005, June 26th, 2006.

Kathleen Pender, Mortgage options explode, SAN FRANCISCO CHRONICLE, April 13, 2006

Asha Bangalore, Housing Market – Another Information Tidbit, The Northern Trust Company, May 23, 2005 http://www.northerntrust.com/library/econ_research/daily/us/dd052305.pdf

Kathleen Pender, Mortgage options explode, SAN FRANCISCO CHRONICLE, April 13, 2006

Hey lama - I didn't see a source from either peepeetime or Patrick in that list anywhere. It can't possibly be fair and balanced.

Amendment:
That letter was written BY Steven Krystofiak to mortgage regulators. No reply yet as far as I know.

In the sidebar of the Wikipedia article on "Approximate cost to own mortgaged property vs. renting."

The example comes up with $2770 per month for a $250K home. This sounds way too high.

So I checked it and they got their math wrong. The correct figure is $1361 per month.

Lama,

That letter was written BY Steven Krystofiak to mortgage regulators. No reply yet as far as I know.

Thanks a million for posting this interesting information!

At the risk of being dumb, however, please tell me why Mr. Krystofiak wrote this letter. Tightening mortgage lending standards would only hurt his business, even though it is clearly the responsible thing to do.

Are you telling me that there are actually some people in our society today that are more concerned with the general good than their own individual wallets?

If so, I only have one thing to say: AMAZING.

Thanks again for providing this information. Maybe there is hope for this world.

Mr. Campbell,
An ethical businessperson usually profits by eliminating the unethical from competition.
I have to imagine Mr. Krystofiak lost many clients who were convinced by a slick salesperson that a 3/1 ARM at 3.5% was a better deal than a 25 year level at 5.0%.
In most cases, the individual mortgage salesperson does not have the sophistication to know the possible ramifications of their advice. We also live in a world where insurance sales people are selling financial planning! (but that's another topic)

Someone needs to hold Lereah and his cohorts accountable for thier irresponsible behavior the last 3 years.

Now he wants to point the finger in another direction.

Sorry dave you played a big role and mislead many into buying and beleiving it would never end.

Now we only correct 2-5% per quarter lasting only for a few quarters while you said houses appreciate at inflation + 1or 2% annually. So what happens when RE appreciates at 12-20% for several years.

CAN YOU SAY OVERVALUED/BUBBLE PRICES?

YES YOU CAN AND THIS CORRECTION WILL BE THE MOTHER OF ALL CORRECTIONS.

I understand that "authoriship" is a vague and not usually very important feature of Wikipedia entries, but does anybody know who the main author is for the "Housing Bubble" piece. Even if the mortgage math was wrong (which, by the way, anybody who cares to can correct), this piece is quite impressive.

Thanks for the great f/b. Math was right, but plugged in formula the the wrong principal! I already fixed it. Other comments more than welcome.

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