you completely misread me and now you have scurried away like a little boy and changed your handle to attack.
leave it alone.
you mistook me at first.
leave it at that.
my views are plain for all to see.
and i'm doing something about it.
and today msnbc noticed and got in touch with me.
they want to do a profile becasue they believe i ahve touched a chord with the american people about the bailouts.
do you have any idea what my traffic has been like lately?
14,000 uniques just today so far. on my 13th day of existence.
I'm told that of the 10,000 odd hedge funds that were around in 2007, only about 1-200 have shut shop, that about half of them paid fat bonuses in 2008, less than but on the same order of magnitude as recent years. I've also read that the ex-investment banks have paid (or are paying) as much as half of the previous year bonuses in 2008. There seems to be no structural shift in finance despite all the recessionary indicators in the mainstream economy. I'd be curious to hear the timeline on which people expect "high finance" to return to what it was a couple of decades ago, before it became so lucrative to the rank and file working in it. When will graduating engineers start thinking it's worth their while to invent a (non-finance) product rather than join a hedge fund?
this is where dual civil engineers and architects come out on top
EvilHenryPaulson
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Beg to diff.
They'll just get pushed down the food chain to drafting, and a lot of draftsmen and designers will be out of a job. Shit flows downhill.
scone,
the idea being that they can snag infrastructure work during the bad times and the fancy experience stuff in the good times. in addition to the benefits it bring to the execution on projects
Dailybail writes:
you are hoops and you lost the argument.
Dude, chill, you said last thread you didn't want to talk to me anymore, so I closed the browser window and did some work.
In your most recent crappy rant on your site, you say the only part of the stimulus bill that will work is tax cuts. That is retarded, and also inconsistent with your stance against reducing the national debt. You need to get some thicker skin, especially if you're going to drive-by spam communities you don't belong to as a crappy contributor who only comes to pimp his site.
lawyerliz
tell her to insulate the walls with hundred dollar bills
declare bankruptcy
salvage wall material and start over
it's not exactly legal, but a lot isn't these days. looks like every branch of enforcement has their hands full these days...
IRS, FBI, SEC, local PD as bad economy is good for crime, etc
This is priceless. Mark to fantasy meets real world... Somehow it isn't fair that banks need to mark to market. It is worth what we say it is until it isn't..... except of course when the taxpayer is picking up the tab. It is worth what the model said.
EvilHenryPaulson writes:
scone,
the idea being that they can snag infrastructure work during the bad times and the fancy experience stuff in the good times. in addition to the benefits it bring to the execution on projects
EvilHenryPaulson
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I hear you, but they cost too much-- as archs/eng. Most of the work is now done by draftsmen and rubberstamped by the architect. So the developers know they can get by, paying archs at the draftsman level. The archs will no longer be able to command professional salaries, because the work has already been de facto devalued. "Quality of work" is not marketable in this market.
Bearly, I am done with double shorts, like SRS. When the storm hits they will take off. Until then the decay is just brutal. I am buying march puts on IYR instead. I might lose my entire position but I got a couple of months to be right and at least the decay stops pissing the crap out of me.
WASHINGTON -- Massive deficits could force the post office to cut out one day of mail delivery, the postmaster general told Congress on Wednesday, in asking lawmakers to lift the requirement that the agency deliver mail six days a week. If the change happens, that doesn't necessarily mean an end to Saturday mail delivery. Previous post office studies have looked at the possibility of skipping some other day when mail flow is light, such as Tuesday. Faced with dwindling mail volume and rising costs, the post office was $2.8 billion in the red last year. "If current trends continue, we could experience a net loss of $6 billion or more this fiscal year," Potter said in testimony for a Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs subcommittee.
I thought the USPS went private.... Sold to some Saudi prince last year. Where did I read that. You know, the same one that invested in Citi.... Alweed or Alibroke as hell, something like that....
scone
fair enough, I guess you might as well extend the draftsmen to an 8 year old in an emerging market who can draw on a computer
EvilHenryPaulson
I can teach you to use the software, Chief Architect, in about 1/2 hour. Devaluation of expensively acquired non-transferable skills in 3..2..1..
This is why I never bothered getting my architect's license. They can, and largely have been, replaced by software. Even my engineer doesn't do his own equations, he uses software.
And a dog could get their contractor's license in Oregon, in fact I think that actually happened.
it definitely was profane, but if you watched the whole thing, it got funnier by the minute. It wa a beautiful crescendo of pain that developed during the entire 6 minutes. It obviously struck a major chord with people.
and believe it or not he's a pretty smart guy. unc chapel hill grad. so he's not the luddite he seems.
that's all i will say about him. but he will be back for more.
The construction of cardboard box dwellings requires no architects, though it would be interesting to see if a former architect's cardboard box home would be nicer designed than an average person's.
that rubin, the market doesn't work when there is no market for the crap the banks porduce---duh
why did the smartest dopes in the room concoct such illiquid instruments that are causing their ruin and the collateral damage of economic collapse?
Bruce - the bloomy article...dont some peope get it that he was not there to help C avoid the lending disaster he was there to map it out and the subsequent "to big to fail" funding program
scone
I can draft by hand w/o a ruler and w/ CAD, but have my background in electrical engineering so I have a good idea what it's like
it would come down to who is paying for the project as to what certainty they want
judging by SF getting an outsourced bridge from China that has repeatedly failed inspection, I would have to agree that politicians/developers could care less so long as it stays up long enough for a photo and for them to be re-elected
The construction of cardboard box dwellings requires no architects, though it would be interesting to see if a former architect's cardboard box home would be nicer designed than an average person's.
Ponyless in NJ
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Check out "Good House, Cheap House" from Taunton Press. Fine Homebuilding has a lot of fun designs in the archives.
judging by SF getting an outsourced bridge from China that has repeatedly failed inspection, I would have to agree that politicians/developers could care less so long as it stays up long enough for a photo and for them to be re-elected
EvilHenryPaulson
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Plenty of blame to go around. Contractors have been cheating on labor and materials since the Egyptians.
scone - here ya on the software issue that is why you still have to look at building permits issued et al
Barley
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True, and some of the smaller towns rely to permits for a significant portion of income.
Baron Fink - that's a very good question. A better one would be to ask who wants to bust their ass studying that when you can be sacked so easily. TI is a great example of double-talk on this topic. Their CEO travels aroudn the state talking about how we need more engineers. And then they let go their entire advanced tech development staff.
I do need a floor plan for converting my 10 x 12 cedar shed into a "guest cottage". Wonder if I can get a deal on having someone draw it up for me.
Joanna
DIY. Use 3D Home Architect. You can get it used for nearly nothing. It's the "everyman" version of Chief Architect. Heck, just draw it up. Pencil and paper. Most jurisdictions don't care with tiny projects like that. In fact, I'd just get a kit, and use their plan.
Or you could go into a foreclosed home at night, with a circular saw.
And the guy is a college grad, not really an ignorant redneck who is getting it too, according to db above, which lessens its value to near zero.
Near zero is all we need to securitize it up, irrigate it with a few traunches through it, sell it off to an Ibank and buy it back as a differently packaged asset, then repost it here. We'll be millionares by dawn.
EvilHenryPaulson writes:
There used to be innumerable shows like "Flip this House"
They have almost been completely replaced by reality logging, and other TBD shows.
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That reality logging show was shot largely in my county, Columbia County, esp. the area around Vernonia. Those guys are toast, and migrating out if they can.
this is where dual civil engineers and architects come out on top EvilHenryPaulson
I actually spoke with a kid the other day about it. I actually choose surveyors as the ones that come out on top. Same reasoning tho and you dont have to have an IQ of 140+ to do both trades proficently.
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I just found out that my company's revenue doubled from '03-'08. Literally total doubling. Lots of other GCs are in the same boat. Something tells me things will be different going forward.
One of those trustees for the investors in the trenches, err, tranches, is self cramming to the tune of over 210k. Must pay unpaid taxes out of proceeds, so lender is only getting about 60 cents on the dollar. Lucky at that!!
Mr. Sparkle writes:
Baron Fink - that's a very good question. A better one would be to ask who wants to bust their ass studying that when you can be sacked so easily. TI is a great example of double-talk on this topic. Their CEO travels aroudn the state talking about how we need more engineers. And then they let go their entire advanced tech development staff.
aaaand that's why I stayed away from the hard sciences when I was going through college. I could see the big employers intentionally oversaturating the market by bringing in foreigners, trying to turn the job into a fungible product, all to screw the engineer. It's why engineers aren't paid half of what they're worth, and I'm being paid 200 to flip through internal emails and share my "feelings" about them to investigative agencies.
Or you could go into a foreclosed home at night, with a circular saw. \t scone | \t \t \t \t01.28.09 - 6:47 pm | # scone | 01.28.09 - 6:47 pm | #
I can design & build pretty well, when it comes to barns, sheds & coops. It would be kinda funny though, to have my itty bitty cabin 'professionally' done Now getting the septic put in 'under the radar' is definitely a DIY job...
Just as nova said. It's where the movers and shakers post the inside info. There's a Fed analyst there, a bunch of ibankers, a GS guy, a few retired CEO's... If you find your way in, you'll find out which publicly traded company I am the CFO of.
Now getting the septic put in 'under the radar' is definitely a DIY job...
Joanna
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Some jurisdictions get tightly wound about septic, others don't care if you have a 3-holer next to the tomato patch. My grandma used to have her garden over the cesspool, and threw her garbage on top to mulch it. Best tomatoes I've ever had.
Most awkward moment I've ever witnessed was at SPIE (huge photolithography nerd-fest in San Jose) and the TI CTO is up presenting, literally one week after the announcement that advanced process development was going to basically be closed up. He's going on and on about challenges in the next nodes, etc, etc. At the end of the presentation this guy, Chris Mack (well known in this particular area) gets up and asks:
"So, how difficult will these challenges be to TI in light of the fact you've just dismissed 90% of your technical staff."
The area of construction that is hurting the most are the people who are in commission sales of building products. They don't get laid off unless they make less for the company than their health care benefits cost the company. I have quit even saying a polite "How are you?" to the commissioned sales folks that I know because I get a 15 minute hysterical (not as in funny)rant about how horrible their lives are now. We don't have any doomers here at CR that even come close to their level. Worse than any country song.
Hoopajoops
Now the problem is way too many people went into law. It's also a system that could be cleaned up to cut down on lawyer demand. I've seen enough discontent with the legal system to know that it would be reform or die well before the end of my working lifetime
As someone who worked in legal publishing for years, I can agree with the bloated legal system comments.
Assuredly, though, that is one thicket of thorns you will not weed easily. Easier to go back to prohibition than to disentangle our system from the lawyers; our system is lawyers.
One Hot Chick writes:
The area of construction that is hurting the most are the people who are in commission sales of building products. They don't get laid off unless they make less for the company than their health care benefits cost the company. I have quit even saying a polite "How are you?" to the commissioned sales folks that I know because I get a 15 minute hysterical (not as in funny)rant about how horrible their lives are now.
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Yeah, I get the same thing from the contractors and subs. The subs especially are screwed, they loaded up on F-150s and flat screen TVs during the boom, now they can't afford diapers for the kids. Some of them are just disappearing into the night, Mom and kids now dependent on the food bank.
And there's not a thing I can do for them, I dare not start another project now. It sucks dead gorillas.
Broward Horne,
You lost me buddy, but I doubt I would disagree given some of the keywords
As for me, well when quantum computing finally gets developed that could/will take a broom to limitations of numerical computation for repetitive simple equations, and long complex ones. So then I always have the option to work w/ quantum, or to use quantum to expand our abilities.
if the potential is there, it can't be ignored forever. just a very long time. but since we're headed for a "nothing to lose" future, I will be optimistic on modernizing our law especially wrt to Intellectual Property
and if all else fails, fully automated maple syrup farm
lawyerliz writes:
It used to be that some people who wanted to be in business got a law degree first. Now they get a stupid MBA.
Those are in far greater oversupply than lawyers.
lawyerliz | 01.28.09 - 7:01 pm | #
And now when I try to get into business I deal with a bunch of shit-headed MBA's who look down on me as a paperwork monkey, the guy who receives their amazing visionary plans and actually looks shit up in books to see if it will work. That's what a lawyer is for, little helpermonkey for the MBA shitheads who play golf.
Are you joking? Exaggerating? Pavel Chichikov | 01.28.09 - 7:03 pm | # ----- Nope. We didn't get 400, but we got ~10 attorney resumes for a $10/hr gig back in August.
don't want to embarrass them though. very competent, just extremely bad timing with this one business I know of
I'm of the opinion the MBA means nothing, it's kind of like a certificate and you can learn the content without going through a program. If a company pays for it, why not. More letters are always good. BSc, MSc, PEng, PhD, MBA, SOB....
I can certainly see people collecting an MBA and thinking they are the Bee's knees though
Drunken panhandlers with bad teeth and an attitude make more than poets.
nova
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Don't knock it. Our local alternative rag, Willamette Week, did a piece on these guys. They work it as a syndicate, stake out a territory on the corners and run everybody else off. Make a comfortable living, $50 per day, IIRC.
Half of my students in my tax class still want to do corporate securities and M&A crap. don't have the heart to tell them they're going to be SOL for a while.
It's hard to say whether poetry makes things happen or not, because poetry moves the mind and the soul, if it moves anything at all. I don't believe it would make a bridge girder levitate, though.
It is like all those IT graduates that got of school in 2000-2001 ready to start the next "Pets.com" only to find a job at Burger King. M&A will have work but only in a government sense, like FDIC bank takeovers.
I expect poetry makes many things happen, few of much interest to executives. I was struck by BlonderEngel's poem "Coal Season" here the other day; many Americans will be able to relate to its portrait of longing in the years ahead.
I'm of the opinion the MBA means nothing, it's kind of like a certificate and you can learn the content without going through a program. If a company pays for it, why not. More letters are always good. BSc, MSc, PEng, PhD, MBA, SOB....
EvilHenryPaulson | 01.28.09 - 7:10 pm | #
It never struck me that "business" was a profession like accounting, law, medicine, etc. and that it was a sham to treat it as such.
The alphabet soup phenom I've always found really annoying.
Basel Too writes:
Half of my students in my tax class still want to do corporate securities and M&A crap. don't have the heart to tell them they're going to be SOL for a while.
Tell them to do criminal or BK.
It is amazing, but people are coming up with big fees to pay my husband (criminal).
Not counting on it continuing though, especially now that I know the clock struck 12.
BTW, beekeeping is an honorable craft. Anyone here ever think of being a beekeeper? Beekeepers really are a vital part of the economy.
Pavel Chichikov
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This would be me. Bees are in a lot of trouble, hives dying off like mad. It's important here in Oregon, a lot of farming is really horticulture. Of course, landscaping is dead along with building and architecture. All the fun stuff is dead, which is why I have nothing to do.
Chichikov
Bees are dying because of pesticides and/or GMO crops being planted. Tough business to stay in right now, have to get some ruggedized Siberian bees which are not as stinger and honey friendly as the current soft bunch.
and bees have knees, just like snakes have hips, and cats have pyjamas
side-topic: If we have too many useless _______ graduates, and secondary education financing is vanished(-ing):
what departments get cut first, how much, in what order, why?
ova,
A lot of these sales people are in fact friends of mine, (not just being nice to try to sell something) so it is sad for me. I think if I was a buyer, they would try to hide what is going on.
C&C,
Sorry, no website, please use your imagination.
Pavel,
I read your post a few days ago about your family member who is ill. The thread was already over, so I was unable to say how sorry I was to hear this. A few months ago I bought a miracle candle, but was unable to think of the miracle that I needed to pray for while burning it, so I still have it. I am lighting it tonight for your family.
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"Pavel,
I read your post a few days ago about your family member who is ill. The thread was already over, so I was unable to say how sorry I was to hear this. A few months ago I bought a miracle candle, but was unable to think of the miracle that I needed to pray for while burning it, so I still have it. I am lighting it tonight for your family."
One Hot Chick, I'm very moved by that, and grateful. God bless you and be with you always.
BTW, beekeeping is an honorable craft. Anyone here ever think of being a beekeeper? Beekeepers really are a vital part of the economy. Pavel Chichikov | 01.28.09 - 7:18 pm | #
I am attending a beeginner's beekeeping class this weekend!
If you are running power out, look into a composting toilet. I've used them in cabin rentals and they are pretty livable. \t Comrade Darkness | \t \t \t \t01.28.09 - 7:18 p Comrade Darkness | 01.28.09 - 7:18 pm | #
We had one at our old place, sort-of off grid, and I didn't like it. I've seen a few designs for an elk camp septic using a couple of plastic drums that should work for light usage with a good drainfield.
I glanced at that site; what is the fuss? Posting videos made by other people, cartoons drawn by other people, and a few lines of home-made rant isn't exactly a revolution, now, DB, is it.
"Bees are dying because of pesticides and/or GMO crops being planted. "
Yes, I knew that. But there must be some healthy hives left, or a large part of US agriculture would come to a stop. We do see a few around here, DC area. We saw quite a few in a friary garden a while ago, nosing in some winter-blooming camillias.
my response? i don't a cfa to be able to lie, i can do that just fine right now... was a pleasure \t Punditry | \t \t \t \t01.28.09 - 7:21 pm | # Punditry | 01.28.09 - 7:21 pm | #
As an accountant I watched the financial services industry gear up it's sales pitch from the early 90's onward. Clients were made to feel like fools for paying off their mortgages and staying in cash. They refused to frame their CFA's as having anything but superior knowlege and their best interests at heart. Even now they won't hold them responsible.
Basel Too writes:
...Half of my students in my tax class still want to do corporate securities and M&A crap. don't have the heart to tell them they're going to be SOL for a while...
Why not casually introducing them to this blog ?
Maybe, after they overcome their initial shock, they might actually get some inkling ?
i changed the entry...mostly in the second section and below. it now more accurately reflects my views.
it's about our kids. it's their money.
"In this melancholy afternoon edition of bailout news links, our attention turns to the Obama stimulus package. Oustside of being an insane waste of another trillion of your children's future, there is some value here. There's word that we might have some nifty parking garages built at the Orange Bowl in Miami, plus there's $350 million earmarked for STD education. We're all for public sex education here at dailybail. seriously. No Snark. But how many of these patronage projects will actually help the economy recover? None. Zip. Nada.
Face it folks. Outside of the tax cuts, none of this will help. And let me be clear, I do not support ANY tax cuts in this current environment. I would in fact support tax increases. Yes, even in these times. I won't advocate for them, certainly. But, as you know, my main focus is our children and this insurmountable and unconscionable debt burden we are leaving them. It is generational rape in no uncertain terms. You Krugmanites can kiss my ass. Keynesians, what value do you add? Your insane belief in the power of government spending is nothing but entertainment for the rest of us who can smell bullshit the minute you hit town. Where is your grand, coherent vision for a vital infrastructure build-out? We would be willing to spend our kids' dough on that. Tell us why you want this money from their future. Explain how every project will further our national interest. Convince us first, and then yes you may have more of their money. Just show us the respect of not trying to call this $1 trillion dollar piece of shit a big boost for the economy. It's nothing short of generational rape achieved with shovel-ready projects of rank patronage. I voted for Obama(becasue I wanted out of Iraq) and hoped for a new direction on the bailouts, but alas you and I and our children are being played for fools once again. It's the same course we saw from the previous administration. It makes me sick to my stomach."
now someone tell me where i am wrong.?
it's their moeny. if the gov't wants to spend it then expalin to us why and on what.
private room sounds like everything i have alwasy hated about academia.
i can hang with the regular folk, jsut fine.
db
and liz i have a law degee from UVa. completed when i was 26. and i have an important job. i'm trying to protect the american taxpayer from getting screwed.
i'm a trader, people. every day in the markets. and i'm just pissed off about the great rip-off. Capisce?
What is that blank space in CR companion between Pavel Chichikov | \t \t \t \t01.28.09 - 7:26 pm |and Joanna | \t \t \tHomepage | \t01.28.09 - 7:29 pm | # ?
"They'll just get pushed down the food chain to drafting"
This was true back in the day... but now everything is on computer, nuch of it on complex BIM programs like Revit and cadmonkeys have some knowledge we old guys don't have.
Yep. Survey does not lie. Business here has ground to a halt. No new private sector commercial projects in the pipeline. Public sector still doing well I hear. Hope to survive the spring.
I have visited this discussion site for a few days now. There is some rarely interesting info but what is really interesting is that THE SAME NAMES ARE HERE FROM DAWN TO MIDNIGHT. Literally whenever I have checked in.
At first I did not believe it.
It is as if a computer is making up all the repartee here. Either that or you, collectively, are two or three sweaty, pimply teens or shut-ins pounding away at keyboards using different names to entertain each other.
Or, and this is the scary thought, these are actually real time individuals proselytizing to each other, because no one will talk with them to their face, along with a few fooled folks who think this is real and try to contribute constructively. Spooky stuff. Any of you have a life or loved ones outside of this interface that is worth living?
Ooooo, I always loved Kermit
Hmmm???
Just sent it to my wife, an architect
Look at that. The bottom is in!
everything is declining 30%
Aw hell with it.
OT:
To correct an error I made on the tail end of the previous thread.
mp(Excellent) writes:
Our satellite connection is at least temporarily restored.
CONJURE'S GLOBAL DEPRESSION CLOCK
The time is now--
12:00:00
Conjure says, "Good Luck."
mp | 01.28.09 - 3:51 am |
This is the commercial side, architects don't do more than 3 - 5% of units in America.
km4
from last thread
outright defaulting on US debt is off the table
I hope my daughter keeps her arch job. Still had it a couple of days ago.
TARP the architects. Actually, maybe just a poncho.
@dailybail less
you are hoops and you lost the argument.
you completely misread me and now you have scurried away like a little boy and changed your handle to attack.
leave it alone.
you mistook me at first.
leave it at that.
my views are plain for all to see.
and i'm doing something about it.
and today msnbc noticed and got in touch with me.
they want to do a profile becasue they believe i ahve touched a chord with the american people about the bailouts.
do you have any idea what my traffic has been like lately?
14,000 uniques just today so far. on my 13th day of existence.
i don't need to talk about the site any more.
people already have found us.
again, seriously, back off.
Daily Bail,
EJECT!
EJECT!
EJECT!
this is where dual civil engineers and architects come out on top
I must say all these indicators are giving me grief. But, then again there are rear view mirror pics so no worries, right?
[funny how the word "contained" seemed so inappropiate a few months ago]
Get 'em a tax cut.
So you're saying the recovery has already started, right? right??
Crickets...
i will not argue any more.
i apologize for the fight.
i'm just smart enough to know that gov't spending isn't the solution.
i'm going to have a drink.
and relax.
if fallonpdx is out there,
any commentary?
db: that's because we built a bot that's spoofing your site into thinking it's serving pages to 14m uniques
Makes the dot com thingy seems like "modest growth"
I'm told that of the 10,000 odd hedge funds that were around in 2007, only about 1-200 have shut shop, that about half of them paid fat bonuses in 2008, less than but on the same order of magnitude as recent years. I've also read that the ex-investment banks have paid (or are paying) as much as half of the previous year bonuses in 2008. There seems to be no structural shift in finance despite all the recessionary indicators in the mainstream economy. I'd be curious to hear the timeline on which people expect "high finance" to return to what it was a couple of decades ago, before it became so lucrative to the rank and file working in it. When will graduating engineers start thinking it's worth their while to invent a (non-finance) product rather than join a hedge fund?
Briefly dated a harvard grad architect. One of the biggest snobs I ever met. Think I'll print this out and leave it on his office doorstep
How 'bout that SRS ? Whatta bust today.
I added to my position at the close but damn it's leavin' a mark on my screen.
Daily Bail hearts tax cuts
db: that's because we built a bot that's spoofing your site into thinking it's serving pages to 14m uniques
arcane software
lol
oh, god
lol
this is where dual civil engineers and architects come out on top
EvilHenryPaulson
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Beg to diff.
They'll just get pushed down the food chain to drafting, and a lot of draftsmen and designers will be out of a job. Shit flows downhill.
Ok, ok, ok, it's 900 billion. Man, oh, man that got to make it a cool Big T.
See...if these guys are hurtin', where's their representation. Don't no one know Nancy???
scone,
the idea being that they can snag infrastructure work during the bad times and the fancy experience stuff in the good times. in addition to the benefits it bring to the execution on projects
And my daughter chose this time to rebuild her house. . . Oh, well, maybe someone will see it and want her to build one for them??
But who. No new houses needed for a loooonnng time.
She's mad at me for dooming.
@barley
he's kidding.
there is no spoof.
it was the redneck bailout rant.
i have gotten slightly over 51,000 uniques in 4 days come to see tthat crazy guy go off.
and now they keep coming back.
i see every Ip of every person who comes.
the redneck rant video now has 267 trackbacks across the net.
that means people have found my site from 267 different links across teh internet.
it is completely viral.
it adds 4 new links per hour...every hour...the redneck rant virus spreads.
I would have lied to comment on the cram down thing, but the thread came and went while I was trying to generate a few bucks.
Dailybail writes:
you are hoops and you lost the argument.
Dude, chill, you said last thread you didn't want to talk to me anymore, so I closed the browser window and did some work.
In your most recent crappy rant on your site, you say the only part of the stimulus bill that will work is tax cuts. That is retarded, and also inconsistent with your stance against reducing the national debt. You need to get some thicker skin, especially if you're going to drive-by spam communities you don't belong to as a crappy contributor who only comes to pimp his site.
dailybail, how much money do you make off your various domains?
db: we're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you
I stopped listening to the rant after a few minutes. Too much of the f word is boring.
lawyerliz
tell her to insulate the walls with hundred dollar bills
declare bankruptcy
salvage wall material and start over
it's not exactly legal, but a lot isn't these days. looks like every branch of enforcement has their hands full these days...
IRS, FBI, SEC, local PD as bad economy is good for crime, etc
This is priceless. Mark to fantasy meets real world... Somehow it isn't fair that banks need to mark to market. It is worth what we say it is until it isn't..... except of course when the taxpayer is picking up the tab. It is worth what the model said.
Robert Rubin Says Mark-to-Market has Done ‘Damage’ (Update2) - Bloomberg.com
EvilHenryPaulson writes:
scone,
the idea being that they can snag infrastructure work during the bad times and the fancy experience stuff in the good times. in addition to the benefits it bring to the execution on projects
EvilHenryPaulson
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I hear you, but they cost too much-- as archs/eng. Most of the work is now done by draftsmen and rubberstamped by the architect. So the developers know they can get by, paying archs at the draftsman level. The archs will no longer be able to command professional salaries, because the work has already been de facto devalued. "Quality of work" is not marketable in this market.
ok hoops.
my bad.
it wasn't you.
i apologize.
it's been a long day.
i agree my post lead in sounds like i support the tax cuts.
i should fix it.
becasue i don't support the cuts.
was jsut saying they would be slightly stimulative. that's all.
not that i supprot them.
i'm sorry for attacking you in response to the perceived attacks on me.
i can chill now. hopefully.
Who needs architects....I'm considering buying one of these modern kit homes in near future.
Rocio Romero, modern custom design and prefab architecture
Bearly, I am done with double shorts, like SRS. When the storm hits they will take off. Until then the decay is just brutal. I am buying march puts on IYR instead. I might lose my entire position but I got a couple of months to be right and at least the decay stops pissing the crap out of me.
db, if I used the cr companion, you would not be one of the people I would read.
db: handfull of valium with a 40 oz malt liquor chaser
News to me....seems like a good idea, though a bad indicator.
Postmaster General: Mail days may need to be cut - The Bellingham Herald / 404
WASHINGTON -- Massive deficits could force the post office to cut out one day of mail delivery, the postmaster general told Congress on Wednesday, in asking lawmakers to lift the requirement that the agency deliver mail six days a week. If the change happens, that doesn't necessarily mean an end to Saturday mail delivery. Previous post office studies have looked at the possibility of skipping some other day when mail flow is light, such as Tuesday. Faced with dwindling mail volume and rising costs, the post office was $2.8 billion in the red last year. "If current trends continue, we could experience a net loss of $6 billion or more this fiscal year," Potter said in testimony for a Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs subcommittee.
Hoops may in fact be a smelly hippy, but he is OUR smelly hippy.
scone
fair enough, I guess you might as well extend the draftsmen to an 8 year old in an emerging market who can draw on a computer
I would like less mail, less often.
Gosh, the post office just noticed that snail mail is used less often.
I would like fewer bills and more fee checks.
And fewer ads, the old fashioned spam. Actually, I am getting less 3rd class mail.
RE: mail service.
Remember when I was talking about the inability for the gov't to fund day to day operations.......
Hialrious find Bruce, thank you.
I thought the USPS went private.... Sold to some Saudi prince last year. Where did I read that. You know, the same one that invested in Citi.... Alweed or Alibroke as hell, something like that....
Wasn't the USPO privatized? So let me guess...they wants their bail out too.
So the stimulus bill passes the House on a party line vote. Good going on the bipartisanship there guys.
DB: another bot just went online. do some more research on each of those ip addresses, then ge back to us.
scone
fair enough, I guess you might as well extend the draftsmen to an 8 year old in an emerging market who can draw on a computer
EvilHenryPaulson
I can teach you to use the software, Chief Architect, in about 1/2 hour. Devaluation of expensively acquired non-transferable skills in 3..2..1..
This is why I never bothered getting my architect's license. They can, and largely have been, replaced by software. Even my engineer doesn't do his own equations, he uses software.
And a dog could get their contractor's license in Oregon, in fact I think that actually happened.
@lawyerliz
it definitely was profane, but if you watched the whole thing, it got funnier by the minute. It wa a beautiful crescendo of pain that developed during the entire 6 minutes. It obviously struck a major chord with people.
and believe it or not he's a pretty smart guy. unc chapel hill grad. so he's not the luddite he seems.
that's all i will say about him. but he will be back for more.
The construction of cardboard box dwellings requires no architects, though it would be interesting to see if a former architect's cardboard box home would be nicer designed than an average person's.
lawyerliz writes:
"I stopped listening to the rant after a few minutes. Too much of the f word is boring."
I hope you watched long enough to get the point that even the lame potheads are starting to get it.
that rubin, the market doesn't work when there is no market for the crap the banks porduce---duh
why did the smartest dopes in the room concoct such illiquid instruments that are causing their ruin and the collateral damage of economic collapse?
@liz
i know nothing about CR's companion reader.
what is it?
14,000 uniques just today so far. on my 13th day of existence.
Those are all search engines, dude.
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Bruce - the bloomy article...dont some peope get it that he was not there to help C avoid the lending disaster he was there to map it out and the subsequent "to big to fail" funding program
tinfoil hat off
OT, re: bond market crash.
Does anyone know if we have ever had one of these?
scone
I can draft by hand w/o a ruler and w/ CAD, but have my background in electrical engineering so I have a good idea what it's like
it would come down to who is paying for the project as to what certainty they want
judging by SF getting an outsourced bridge from China that has repeatedly failed inspection, I would have to agree that politicians/developers could care less so long as it stays up long enough for a photo and for them to be re-elected
The construction of cardboard box dwellings requires no architects, though it would be interesting to see if a former architect's cardboard box home would be nicer designed than an average person's.
Ponyless in NJ
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Check out "Good House, Cheap House" from Taunton Press. Fine Homebuilding has a lot of fun designs in the archives.
scone - here ya on the software issue that is why you still have to look at building permits issued et al
daily bail writes:
i know nothing about CR's companion reader.
what is it?
It threatens your livelihood.
judging by SF getting an outsourced bridge from China that has repeatedly failed inspection, I would have to agree that politicians/developers could care less so long as it stays up long enough for a photo and for them to be re-elected
EvilHenryPaulson
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Plenty of blame to go around. Contractors have been cheating on labor and materials since the Egyptians.
his is why I never bothered getting my architect's license. They can, and largely have been, replaced by software
During the post-Civil War railroad boom, a significant part of the railroad's value was derived by destroying local commodity monopolies.
The IT revolution derives a lot of its value from destroying information monopolies.
Extrapolate.
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The F word has it's uses or Deadwood would never have made it as a series.
I do need a floor plan for converting my 10 x 12 cedar shed into a "guest cottage". Wonder if I can get a deal on having someone draw it up for me.
"SF getting an outsourced bridge from China"
those melamine welds, nothing to see, keep moving along
Broward Horne,
so long as machines are slower at smith charts than me, all is well
oh and random background noise, antenna temperature are another failsafe
not to mention we are still learning about a lot of phenomena for the first time still like the memsistor
scone - here ya on the software issue that is why you still have to look at building permits issued et al
Barley
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True, and some of the smaller towns rely to permits for a significant portion of income.
"and some of the smaller towns rely to permits for a significant portion of income."
another domino falls for municipal funding
There used to be innumerable shows like "Flip this House"
They have almost been completely replaced by reality logging, and other TBD shows.
Logging fad = signal of return to the olden days? or sign of a lumber boom (lol)
daily bail
click
rate author irritating
click
ahhhhhhhhhhhh
When will graduating engineers start thinking it's worth their while to invent a (non-finance) product rather than join a hedge fund?
When the hedgies are smoldering holes and the graduating class is half the size it is today.
Say, middle of next decade.
Logging fad = signal of return to the olden days? or sign of a lumber boom (lol)
Heh.
Sign cable TV producers will soon be unemployed, too.
F word certainly has its uses, but used immoderately, loses its shock value. There SHOULD be words with shock value.
I prefer to not debase the f word.
And the guy is a college grad, not really an ignorant redneck who is getting it too, according to db above, which lessens its value to near zero.
Baron Fink - that's a very good question. A better one would be to ask who wants to bust their ass studying that when you can be sacked so easily. TI is a great example of double-talk on this topic. Their CEO travels aroudn the state talking about how we need more engineers. And then they let go their entire advanced tech development staff.
I do need a floor plan for converting my 10 x 12 cedar shed into a "guest cottage". Wonder if I can get a deal on having someone draw it up for me.
Joanna
DIY. Use 3D Home Architect. You can get it used for nearly nothing. It's the "everyman" version of Chief Architect. Heck, just draw it up. Pencil and paper. Most jurisdictions don't care with tiny projects like that. In fact, I'd just get a kit, and use their plan.
Or you could go into a foreclosed home at night, with a circular saw.
When the grads can handle real math. Speculative math is easier.
lawyerliz writes:
And the guy is a college grad, not really an ignorant redneck who is getting it too, according to db above, which lessens its value to near zero.
Near zero is all we need to securitize it up, irrigate it with a few traunches through it, sell it off to an Ibank and buy it back as a differently packaged asset, then repost it here. We'll be millionares by dawn.
EvilHenryPaulson writes:
There used to be innumerable shows like "Flip this House"
They have almost been completely replaced by reality logging, and other TBD shows.
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That reality logging show was shot largely in my county, Columbia County, esp. the area around Vernonia. Those guys are toast, and migrating out if they can.
this is where dual civil engineers and architects come out on top
EvilHenryPaulson
I actually spoke with a kid the other day about it. I actually choose surveyors as the ones that come out on top. Same reasoning tho and you dont have to have an IQ of 140+ to do both trades proficently.
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I just found out that my company's revenue doubled from '03-'08. Literally total doubling. Lots of other GCs are in the same boat. Something tells me things will be different going forward.
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"who wants to bust their ass studying that when you can be sacked so easily"
I offer the sixties as a role model, good times
Hahahaha, hoops.
One of those trustees for the investors in the trenches, err, tranches, is self cramming to the tune of over 210k. Must pay unpaid taxes out of proceeds, so lender is only getting about 60 cents on the dollar. Lucky at that!!
Mr. Sparkle writes:
Baron Fink - that's a very good question. A better one would be to ask who wants to bust their ass studying that when you can be sacked so easily. TI is a great example of double-talk on this topic. Their CEO travels aroudn the state talking about how we need more engineers. And then they let go their entire advanced tech development staff.
aaaand that's why I stayed away from the hard sciences when I was going through college. I could see the big employers intentionally oversaturating the market by bringing in foreigners, trying to turn the job into a fungible product, all to screw the engineer. It's why engineers aren't paid half of what they're worth, and I'm being paid 200 to flip through internal emails and share my "feelings" about them to investigative agencies.
House passed bailout....
Trillioooooooon dollarssssss
Or you could go into a foreclosed home at night, with a circular saw.
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scone | 01.28.09 - 6:47 pm | #
I can design & build pretty well, when it comes to barns, sheds & coops. It would be kinda funny though, to have my itty bitty cabin 'professionally' done
Now getting the septic put in 'under the radar' is definitely a DIY job...
"Quality of work" is not marketable in this market.
scone | 01.28.09 - 6:20 pm | #
So true.....
Did FFDIC come out of his hole?
Yeah, he's been posting.
He said tax cuts would solve the FDIC's problems also...
i know nothing about CR's companion reader.
what is it?
daily bail
db,
It is part of the IRC software that leads to an invitation only part of the forum where people who haved important jobs and titles chat and post.
[nopaytimmy writes:
House passed bailout....
Trillioooooooon dollarssssss]
Priced in.
When will graduating engineers start thinking it's worth their while to invent a (non-finance) product rather than join a hedge fund?
Tremendous question at the heart of the real problem.
What kind of society encourages its best and brightest innovators to go into finance?
A dying society.
"Financial innovation" should be illegal.
Which reminds me of one of my all-time favorite articles
. "Business is renting you a car at the airport. Finance is... something else."
we are still learning about a lot of phenomena for the first time still like the memsistor
That's partly my point. Cost dynamics change. Much more up front cost, much less backside ability to defray cost.
Yes?
In general, the companies don't recognize this yet.
Our cultural infrastructure has too many foundational assumptions that don't hold true anymore.
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Tax cuts!! Harrumph.
People will start spending money when their old stuff is used up.
And not before.
And when they aren't scared of losing their jobs.
Just as nova said. It's where the movers and shakers post the inside info. There's a Fed analyst there, a bunch of ibankers, a GS guy, a few retired CEO's... If you find your way in, you'll find out which publicly traded company I am the CFO of.
Based on what I read at the Euro Blog what happens next here is only going to be reactions - not actions. Stuff is slipping out of the lads control
Now getting the septic put in 'under the radar' is definitely a DIY job...
Joanna
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Some jurisdictions get tightly wound about septic, others don't care if you have a 3-holer next to the tomato patch. My grandma used to have her garden over the cesspool, and threw her garbage on top to mulch it. Best tomatoes I've ever had.
Hoopajoops... yes. That's about the sum of it.
Most awkward moment I've ever witnessed was at SPIE (huge photolithography nerd-fest in San Jose) and the TI CTO is up presenting, literally one week after the announcement that advanced process development was going to basically be closed up. He's going on and on about challenges in the next nodes, etc, etc. At the end of the presentation this guy, Chris Mack (well known in this particular area) gets up and asks:
"So, how difficult will these challenges be to TI in light of the fact you've just dismissed 90% of your technical staff."
Good stuff.
The area of construction that is hurting the most are the people who are in commission sales of building products. They don't get laid off unless they make less for the company than their health care benefits cost the company. I have quit even saying a polite "How are you?" to the commissioned sales folks that I know because I get a 15 minute hysterical (not as in funny)rant about how horrible their lives are now. We don't have any doomers here at CR that even come close to their level. Worse than any country song.
Hoopajoops
Now the problem is way too many people went into law. It's also a system that could be cleaned up to cut down on lawyer demand. I've seen enough discontent with the legal system to know that it would be reform or die well before the end of my working lifetime
EHP, Esq.
Blogging will kill logging shows. Look at this good, wholesome anti-utopian fun.
Canceled cable 20 mo. ago, never miss it.
Hoop! I knew you were important!
Mr. Sparkle, I'm sure the CEO of TI would like some "incentives" to hire domestic engineers so that he can "compete."
I work in the biotech sector, in manufacturing .
I have a science degree from Berkeley.
What the hell are the rest of you slackers doing producing nothing? Point them accusing fingers inwards...
nova writes:
Hoop! I knew you were important!
My mother always said!
I am refusing to respond to hoop and nova, and I firmly believe that nova has been replaced by his evil twin evilnova.
One Hot Chick | 01.28.
I get calls everday from sales people who think I am important. The edge in their voices is becoming more apparent. Problem is I don't really care.
you'll find out which publicly traded company I am the CFO of.
Hoopajoops, LTD | Homepage | 01.28.09 - 6:55 pm | #
BSC?
db has not been posting in the vip area
lawyerliz | 01.28.09
Yes, I am sorry to say evilnova exists. But this nova thinks your kewl
It used to be that some people who wanted to be in business got a law degree first. Now they get a stupid MBA.
Those are in far greater oversupply than lawyers.
scone--that is disgusting.
As someone who worked in legal publishing for years, I can agree with the bloated legal system comments.
Assuredly, though, that is one thicket of thorns you will not weed easily. Easier to go back to prohibition than to disentangle our system from the lawyers; our system is lawyers.
daily bail and cd are never in the same room?
We had 400 plus resumes from attorneys for a paralegal position.
"I work in the biotech sector, in manufacturing .
I have a science degree from Berkeley.
What the hell are the rest of you slackers doing producing nothing? Point them accusing fingers inwards..."
I produce poetry. How's that for useless?
The old nova would never have said that.
One Hot Chick writes:
The area of construction that is hurting the most are the people who are in commission sales of building products. They don't get laid off unless they make less for the company than their health care benefits cost the company. I have quit even saying a polite "How are you?" to the commissioned sales folks that I know because I get a 15 minute hysterical (not as in funny)rant about how horrible their lives are now.
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Yeah, I get the same thing from the contractors and subs. The subs especially are screwed, they loaded up on F-150s and flat screen TVs during the boom, now they can't afford diapers for the kids. Some of them are just disappearing into the night, Mom and kids now dependent on the food bank.
And there's not a thing I can do for them, I dare not start another project now. It sucks dead gorillas.
Hoopajoops, LTD - but yesterday you were a lawyer, or was that this morning...
Dr. Rockso - some of are being productive
I'm being paid 200 to flip through internal emails and share my "feelings" about them
That's exactly why I capitulated and got a technical degree. I didn't want to have to lie for living.
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Broward Horne,
You lost me buddy, but I doubt I would disagree given some of the keywords
As for me, well when quantum computing finally gets developed that could/will take a broom to limitations of numerical computation for repetitive simple equations, and long complex ones. So then I always have the option to work w/ quantum, or to use quantum to expand our abilities.
if the potential is there, it can't be ignored forever. just a very long time. but since we're headed for a "nothing to lose" future, I will be optimistic on modernizing our law especially wrt to Intellectual Property
and if all else fails, fully automated maple syrup farm
What made Conjure's clock hit 12? Anything other than the usual?
"We had 400 plus resumes from attorneys for a paralegal position."
Are you joking? Exaggerating?
lawyerliz writes:
It used to be that some people who wanted to be in business got a law degree first. Now they get a stupid MBA.
Those are in far greater oversupply than lawyers.
lawyerliz | 01.28.09 - 7:01 pm | #
And now when I try to get into business I deal with a bunch of shit-headed MBA's who look down on me as a paperwork monkey, the guy who receives their amazing visionary plans and actually looks shit up in books to see if it will work. That's what a lawyer is for, little helpermonkey for the MBA shitheads who play golf.
Enough of that.
ow they can't afford diapers for the kids
scone
Well sell the kids damit!
"I produce poetry. How's that for useless?"
Better than being a Lawyer
"One Hot Chick"
Do you have a homepage w/pics...just saying...
everything is declining 30%
elmer fudd | 01.28.09 - 6:06 pm | #
-30% is the new +10%
shit-headed MBA's
Ditto that!
Poetry is extremely useful, but usually not well paid.
Did anyone know that in the wars the ancient Greeks had draft deferments for poets?
How many rich kings from the Homeric age have their names known? A few, but not many.
Pavel when I can dig it up I will share my poem with you on this very comment board.
It is titled "Horse" and perhaps my best work.
lawyerliz writes:
Poetry is extremely useful, but usually not well paid.
Drunken panhandlers with bad teeth and an attitude make more than poets.
Are you joking? Exaggerating?
Pavel Chichikov | 01.28.09 - 7:03 pm | #
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Nope. We didn't get 400, but we got ~10 attorney resumes for a $10/hr gig back in August.
Pavel Chichikov writes:
Well, Pavel, as you know Auden said "poetry makes nothing happen."
He didn't hang around horny liberal arts coeds, did he.
He didn't hang around horny liberal arts coeds, did he.
That Barton Fink Feeling
lol
Pavel your poetry is wonderful not useless.
"Did anyone know that in the wars the ancient Greeks had draft deferments for poets?"
I didn't know that.
Poetry Magazine is in far better financial shape than the NYT Co.
Please hoops, don't post that poem, unless you run it by Pavel first.
"Pavel your poetry is wonderful not useless.
hoopajips&ripoffs | Homepage | 01.28.09 - 7:07 pm | # "
Bless you, hoop.
Well, Pavel, as you know Auden said "poetry makes nothing happen."
He didn't hang around horny liberal arts coeds, did he.
That Barton Fink Feeling
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Cause he was gay, IIRC.
Are you joking? Exaggerating?
Pavel Chichikov | 01.28.09 - 7:03 pm
No, we are a semi big deal if your into criminal law. A stop along the way...
At least Poets are used to living the starving artist lifestyle.
Perhaps you can write a guide to the downsized life in iambic pentameter?
@Arcane software; I can haz my IP address back now?
Poets, to me, are weathervanes for the world.
Yes, Auden was as gay as they come. Er, I'd better stop.
Yep he was gay. So maybe he hung around with horny gay college students.
"Well, Pavel, as you know Auden said "poetry makes nothing happen."
He didn't hang around horny liberal arts coeds, did he."
Well, that's confirmation, because if Auden had hung around co-eds nothing would have happened.
I've got some friends who recently got MBAs
don't want to embarrass them though. very competent, just extremely bad timing with this one business I know of
I'm of the opinion the MBA means nothing, it's kind of like a certificate and you can learn the content without going through a program. If a company pays for it, why not. More letters are always good. BSc, MSc, PEng, PhD, MBA, SOB....
I can certainly see people collecting an MBA and thinking they are the Bee's knees though
Drunken panhandlers with bad teeth and an attitude make more than poets.
nova
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Don't knock it. Our local alternative rag, Willamette Week, did a piece on these guys. They work it as a syndicate, stake out a territory on the corners and run everybody else off. Make a comfortable living, $50 per day, IIRC.
Bee's have knee's?
Scone, I read WW. Not a bad rag at all.
Half of my students in my tax class still want to do corporate securities and M&A crap. don't have the heart to tell them they're going to be SOL for a while.
Oh, wow, what happens to the beggars who get run off the corner? No soup for them.
They work it as a syndicate, stake out a territory on the corners and run everybody else off
Sounds like a TARP candidate.
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It's hard to say whether poetry makes things happen or not, because poetry moves the mind and the soul, if it moves anything at all. I don't believe it would make a bridge girder levitate, though.
Make a comfortable living, $50 per day, IIRC.
db! Did you read that!
lawyerliz writes:
Oh, wow, what happens to the beggars who get run off the corner?
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They ARE the soup?
It is like all those IT graduates that got of school in 2000-2001 ready to start the next "Pets.com" only to find a job at Burger King. M&A will have work but only in a government sense, like FDIC bank takeovers.
Wow, Basel, so smart and soooo stupid.
Soylent green is PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!
Basel Too,
Maybe they all have Jack Welch as a career coach
I expect poetry makes many things happen, few of much interest to executives. I was struck by BlonderEngel's poem "Coal Season" here the other day; many Americans will be able to relate to its portrait of longing in the years ahead.
Going home, adios doomsters.
Lance Armstrong for saturday delivery!
Where did all of those 'not really IT' IT graduates go?
Real estate?
The problem with poetry in America is it became the domain of English majors, professors, and people in therapy.
"Bee's have knee's?"
Sort of, but I don't know off-hand if they bend in the same direction ours do.
If you're a bee your name, 'bee' conveniently rhymes with your knees.
BTW, beekeeping is an honorable craft. Anyone here ever think of being a beekeeper? Beekeepers really are a vital part of the economy.
lawyerliz | 01.28.09
be careful. It is still icey
"It makes no difference to me how a man earns a living you understand. It's just that your business is...a little dangerous."
"Now getting the septic put in 'under the radar' is definitely a DIY job..."
If you are running power out, look into a composting toilet. I've used them in cabin rentals and they are pretty livable.
Between begging, blogging, and dealing you could make a pretty decent living. The creative class in Portland has it figured out.
duh, except where u are.
I'm of the opinion the MBA means nothing, it's kind of like a certificate and you can learn the content without going through a program. If a company pays for it, why not. More letters are always good. BSc, MSc, PEng, PhD, MBA, SOB....
EvilHenryPaulson | 01.28.09 - 7:10 pm | #
It never struck me that "business" was a profession like accounting, law, medicine, etc. and that it was a sham to treat it as such.
The alphabet soup phenom I've always found really annoying.
Basel Too writes:
Half of my students in my tax class still want to do corporate securities and M&A crap. don't have the heart to tell them they're going to be SOL for a while.
Tell them to do criminal or BK.
It is amazing, but people are coming up with big fees to pay my husband (criminal).
Not counting on it continuing though, especially now that I know the clock struck 12.
I can certainly see people collecting an MBA and thinking they are the Bee's knees though
EvilHenryPaulson | 01.28.09 - 7:10 pm | #
A requirement for some industries. Not so much in tech as far as I can tell.
between begging, blogging, and dealing
Ahhh, that's what's wrong.
I'm missing 2/3rds of the triad.
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If the banking bailouts fail, you will need F.I.G.G.S:
F ood
I nformation
G uns
G old
S ilver
If they do not fail you are going to need to get by on A LOT LESS then you do now.
Here, I'm going to cut and paste it. He/she certainly won't mind as he/she already posted it here. This is by blonderengel, I'm simply an admirer.
Coal Season
Every year, around October
he camethe man who brought coals
to our street, he shoveled them
from the back of his truck
into heaps
before the doors.
Payment was always in cash
and beforehand; we knew
who had money and warmth
that year by the size of their coal stack.
The same people whod wait
until noon to bring their coal
inside, downstairs, into the cellar,
next to the potatoesanother staple
that would have to lastthey had time
to outwait our desire for theft,
to taunt our wanting. What did it matter
if a few pieces went missing
from the pile, there was so much
and winter would be so long
and so white
Architects are most definitely hurting. My buddy Art Vandelay just closed down his firm. Fortunately, he also has a degree in Marine Biology.
i'm with you on the letter's
cfa to me was always certified f**** a**holes...
to all the people who always encouraged me after i retired @ 33,'hey, you should get your cfa'
my response? i don't a cfa to be able to lie, i can do that just fine right now... was a pleasure
BTW, beekeeping is an honorable craft. Anyone here ever think of being a beekeeper? Beekeepers really are a vital part of the economy.
Pavel Chichikov
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This would be me. Bees are in a lot of trouble, hives dying off like mad. It's important here in Oregon, a lot of farming is really horticulture. Of course, landscaping is dead along with building and architecture. All the fun stuff is dead, which is why I have nothing to do.
It is titled "Horse" and perhaps my best work.
Hoopajoops, LTD | Homepage | 01.28.09 - 7:05 pm | #
Does it involve a barn door?
Chichikov
Bees are dying because of pesticides and/or GMO crops being planted. Tough business to stay in right now, have to get some ruggedized Siberian bees which are not as stinger and honey friendly as the current soft bunch.
and bees have knees, just like snakes have hips, and cats have pyjamas
side-topic: If we have too many useless _______ graduates, and secondary education financing is vanished(-ing):
what departments get cut first, how much, in what order, why?
ova,
A lot of these sales people are in fact friends of mine, (not just being nice to try to sell something) so it is sad for me. I think if I was a buyer, they would try to hide what is going on.
C&C,
Sorry, no website, please use your imagination.
Pavel,
I read your post a few days ago about your family member who is ill. The thread was already over, so I was unable to say how sorry I was to hear this. A few months ago I bought a miracle candle, but was unable to think of the miracle that I needed to pray for while burning it, so I still have it. I am lighting it tonight for your family.
I can certainly see people collecting an MBA and thinking they are the Bee's knees though
or the Cat's Pajamas?
That's what a lawyer is for, little helpermonkey for the MBA shitheads who play golf.
Hoopajoops, LTD | Homepage | 01.28.09 - 7:03 pm | #
The world is a bit upside-down, I think.
omg, if hoops is a cfo , then that company is definetly going down.(he spends way to much time here)
come on , hoops , give it up! we all need a good short after this pump.
All the fun stuff is dead
The Seattle Goths kept telling me this, too but I never understood it.
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"Pavel,
I read your post a few days ago about your family member who is ill. The thread was already over, so I was unable to say how sorry I was to hear this. A few months ago I bought a miracle candle, but was unable to think of the miracle that I needed to pray for while burning it, so I still have it. I am lighting it tonight for your family."
One Hot Chick, I'm very moved by that, and grateful. God bless you and be with you always.
@ broward.
you are an idiot.
my robot visits are calculated seprately.
i have 3 site metrics services.
i know how many bots crawl and from whom they're sent.
you think im a fool.
it's the viral links posting.
51,000 uniques in 4 days...NOT BOTS...they are counted seperately.
we are real. face it.
BTW, beekeeping is an honorable craft. Anyone here ever think of being a beekeeper? Beekeepers really are a vital part of the economy.
Pavel Chichikov | 01.28.09 - 7:18 pm | #
I am attending a beeginner's beekeeping class this weekend!
CRbot is slacking
We got another thread
So come join us yaking
you think im a fool.
Actually, I don't think about you at all. You are merely today's vehicle for humor.
Start your engine.
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If you are running power out, look into a composting toilet. I've used them in cabin rentals and they are pretty livable.
\t Comrade Darkness | \t \t \t \t01.28.09 - 7:18 p
Comrade Darkness | 01.28.09 - 7:18 pm | #
We had one at our old place, sort-of off grid, and I didn't like it. I've seen a few designs for an elk camp septic using a couple of plastic drums that should work for light usage with a good drainfield.
I glanced at that site; what is the fuss? Posting videos made by other people, cartoons drawn by other people, and a few lines of home-made rant isn't exactly a revolution, now, DB, is it.
"Bees are dying because of pesticides and/or GMO crops being planted. "
Yes, I knew that. But there must be some healthy hives left, or a large part of US agriculture would come to a stop. We do see a few around here, DC area. We saw quite a few in a friary garden a while ago, nosing in some winter-blooming camillias.
" I am attending a beeginner's beekeeping class this weekend!
Joanna | Homepage | 01.28.09 - 7:29 pm | #
Great! I know they have classes at the Brookside Gardens in Montgomery County, Md.
All the fun stuff is dead.
While there is one pinball machine still working, that is miserably untrue.
While there is one pinball machine still working
That Barton Fink Feeling | 01.28.09 - 7:35 pm | #
Bad news....
"Coal Season
Every year, around October
he camethe man who brought coals
...
"
Yes, that is very good.
my response? i don't a cfa to be able to lie, i can do that just fine right now... was a pleasure
\t Punditry | \t \t \t \t01.28.09 - 7:21 pm | #
Punditry | 01.28.09 - 7:21 pm | #
As an accountant I watched the financial services industry gear up it's sales pitch from the early 90's onward. Clients were made to feel like fools for paying off their mortgages and staying in cash. They refused to frame their CFA's as having anything but superior knowlege and their best interests at heart. Even now they won't hold them responsible.
Talk about identifying with your abuser.
Pavel, also take a glance at "Sestina For A National Security Advisor," here:
Baron Wormser.com
Basel Too writes:
...Half of my students in my tax class still want to do corporate securities and M&A crap. don't have the heart to tell them they're going to be SOL for a while...
Why not casually introducing them to this blog ?
Maybe, after they overcome their initial shock, they might actually get some inkling ?
@ hoops
i changed the entry...mostly in the second section and below. it now more accurately reflects my views.
it's about our kids. it's their money.
"In this melancholy afternoon edition of bailout news links, our attention turns to the Obama stimulus package. Oustside of being an insane waste of another trillion of your children's future, there is some value here. There's word that we might have some nifty parking garages built at the Orange Bowl in Miami, plus there's $350 million earmarked for STD education. We're all for public sex education here at dailybail. seriously. No Snark. But how many of these patronage projects will actually help the economy recover? None. Zip. Nada.
Face it folks. Outside of the tax cuts, none of this will help. And let me be clear, I do not support ANY tax cuts in this current environment. I would in fact support tax increases. Yes, even in these times. I won't advocate for them, certainly. But, as you know, my main focus is our children and this insurmountable and unconscionable debt burden we are leaving them. It is generational rape in no uncertain terms. You Krugmanites can kiss my ass. Keynesians, what value do you add? Your insane belief in the power of government spending is nothing but entertainment for the rest of us who can smell bullshit the minute you hit town. Where is your grand, coherent vision for a vital infrastructure build-out? We would be willing to spend our kids' dough on that. Tell us why you want this money from their future. Explain how every project will further our national interest. Convince us first, and then yes you may have more of their money. Just show us the respect of not trying to call this $1 trillion dollar piece of shit a big boost for the economy. It's nothing short of generational rape achieved with shovel-ready projects of rank patronage. I voted for Obama(becasue I wanted out of Iraq) and hoped for a new direction on the bailouts, but alas you and I and our children are being played for fools once again. It's the same course we saw from the previous administration. It makes me sick to my stomach."
now someone tell me where i am wrong.?
it's their moeny. if the gov't wants to spend it then expalin to us why and on what.
private room sounds like everything i have alwasy hated about academia.
i can hang with the regular folk, jsut fine.
db
and liz i have a law degee from UVa. completed when i was 26. and i have an important job. i'm trying to protect the american taxpayer from getting screwed.
i'm a trader, people. every day in the markets. and i'm just pissed off about the great rip-off. Capisce?
I voted for Obama(becasue I wanted out of Iraq) and hoped for a new direction on the bailouts
You weren't paying attention, then. He worked the phone for Hank and George to overcome Dem resistance to the first +$700B.
What's more, he is in no hurry to quit Iraq and is committing more troops to Afghanistan.
If you vote your fantasies, don't come whining to us when they don't materialize.
db--you live in Indy?
What is that blank space in CR companion between Pavel Chichikov | \t \t \t \t01.28.09 - 7:26 pm |and Joanna | \t \t \tHomepage | \t01.28.09 - 7:29 pm | # ?
db, the bots are viral
Some time ago MP mentioned that many young people assumed they could just go out and play office after college. No specialized skills required.
they could just go out and play office after college
as in a real-life version of Dunder Mifflin?
"They'll just get pushed down the food chain to drafting"
This was true back in the day... but now everything is on computer, nuch of it on complex BIM programs like Revit and cadmonkeys have some knowledge we old guys don't have.
But, but, there's an upjag in Nov 08...
Doesn't that mean the bottom is in?
C
Yep. Survey does not lie. Business here has ground to a halt. No new private sector commercial projects in the pipeline. Public sector still doing well I hear. Hope to survive the spring.
I have visited this discussion site for a few days now. There is some rarely interesting info but what is really interesting is that THE SAME NAMES ARE HERE FROM DAWN TO MIDNIGHT. Literally whenever I have checked in.
At first I did not believe it.
It is as if a computer is making up all the repartee here. Either that or you, collectively, are two or three sweaty, pimply teens or shut-ins pounding away at keyboards using different names to entertain each other.
Or, and this is the scary thought, these are actually real time individuals proselytizing to each other, because no one will talk with them to their face, along with a few fooled folks who think this is real and try to contribute constructively. Spooky stuff. Any of you have a life or loved ones outside of this interface that is worth living?
Just sayi
C'mon "That's Mister Esq to You"... who are you really?