There was a situation like that in San Francisco where the landlords. a married couple, actually sawed through the floor joists below the tenants' apartment, because they didn't like them and wanted them to leave. Or die. Or something.
I am not the least surprised - given the few people that I've met that own Hummers. Those that choose the Hummer are doing so to make a statement, they know perfectly well what a pig the thing is and they WANT it for exactly that reason. These are not people who make rational decisions based on mpg, resale value, utility, etc... They wanted a vehicle that looked like it could run everything else off the road and flatten it. So, it is not surprising at all that someone who chose a Hummer would fail to do some simple math and critical long-term thinking as to what their behavior was going to cost them by totaling their own building.
Who wants to bet this dude won't be able to get ANY kind of insurance coverage after this?
Who also wants to bet we are looking at a future Darwin Awards candidate?
To be somewhat serious, there are some jurisdictions (not in Fla), where it is hard to impossible to evict somebody. Maryland was supposed to be one of them, years ago, don't know about now. Delaware too?
Just had to soothe a crying landlord; tenant agreed at Mediation to get out on a certain day and didn't. I drafted a notice of Noncompliance, and sent her down to the local courthouse with it. The tenants were also filthy. Trouble is, what with all the foreclosed buyers to kick out the Miami-Dade sheriff is 3-4 weeks behind.
Virtually every behind client I counsel, I advise to walk away, their credit is usually already trashed, and they are utterly, hopelessly, irretrivably underwater.
I NEVER gave such advice before, say, the last 3 months. Never. But I am not a priestess a shrink or their mommy. I'm advising from a strictly financial point of view.
Lawyerliz, when you say 'walk away' do you mean leave, or stop paying the mortgage until evicted? I know of several people in the Northern VA area claiming to do the latter; one says he hasn't paid his mortgage in over 6 months without any word from his servicer.
"Virtually every behind client I counsel, I advise to walk away... from a financial point of view"
Wouldn't it be better to counsel them to just stop paying but stay in the house until the sheriff finally comes and kicks them out? From a financial point of view, why leave when elsewhere you'll have to pay rent?
I drove behind one yesterday, black with lots of tricked out shiny chrome stuff. One bumper sticker: "powered by Biodiesel".
I laughed out loud.
pandamime | 08.01.08 - 5:23 pm | #
Even funnier are the Hummers with the yellow "support the troops" magnets on them. People say that Obama is not patriotic cuz sometimes he does not wear a flag lapel pin. But it is Hummer owners who truely hate America.
Be careful with the truck comments. No true truck owner would ever drive a hummer. Not too mention that today's trucks (at least mine) shut down cylinders when they're not needed - I get better gas mileage than most sedans even though I can fit them in the bed of my truck while I drive over the dinky little hummers.
Leo Strauss, the Godfather of the neo-cons, taught his students the Machiavellian doctrine that you can't let the "masses" know the truth because they go mad.
Perhaps old Mach was onto something. How much sense does this incident make? It doesn't even serve the ego...sheesh!
I think the Hummer drivers and the Prius drivers are about the same, really. Its about " NOTICE ME ", except Prius drivers will block the passing lane too. Its just a four cyclinder car hauling around a one thousand pound battery.
Could 30-year-old Mr. Ott be a disgruntled graduate of a fast-buck real estate seminar? Sounds like he's a novice landlord who got in over his head with investment properties.
By walk away, I usually mean stay there until evicted.
If they want to leave sooner, ok by me.
In Miami Dade, the sheriff puts up a big red sign that says get out in 24 hours or else. Doesn't actually mean they show up in 24 hours, but you do get a day's notice to get your stuff out. Only the really hard core wait that long.
My crying landlady is really nice, and her filthy tenants are scum; she thinks they are involved in various illegal activities involving controlled substances, but can't prove it. You'd like her; you wouldn't like the tenants.
"There are idiots driving all makes - no need to get personal."
Yeah, the jerks with the super-bright blinding headlights, and the fools who, I suspect, drive with their high beams on to fake having the fancy bright lights.
Extra credit goes to jackasses who get the super-bright headlights and then have them incorrectly aimed.
Lawyerliz, you might encourage your landlady to join an association. They can help with credit reports, background checks, rental agreements, disclosures, etc.
"Feckless Ness writes:
Watch the Prius remarks, please. There are idiots driving all makes - no need to get personal."
Prius idiots tend to be the kind who bought the car to say 'look at me, I'm enlightened.' I say that as a Prius owner. But most of us aren't like that.
Prius idiots tend to be the kind who bought the car to say 'look at me, I'm enlightened.'
This fits the profile of several friends of mine who own a Prius. They're also Compact Fluorescent Light Nazis. When it's time to replace the CFLs, they're too lazy to properly dispose of them; they just throw them in the trash, despite the mercury content. And they take the elevator to a second story office...
Mr. Ott is 30. Thirty is young to be a landlord. No idea what Ott's profession might be, but I'd doubt he is anything particularly handy--an electrician or plumber or mechanic isn't too likely to deliberately cause himself more work. I'd agree with the comment back up aways suggesting this dude is a Get-Rich-quick-via-realty class dropout.
OT snarkiness
Prius, Hummers, the more expensive types of minivans...round 'em all up, crush the vehicles, and take away the owners licenses. Some attitudes should not be allowed out on public highways. (Mine, of course, excluded.)
According to the article, Mr. Ott's brother was acting as property manager; I'm guessing no "pay rent or quit" notice was filed. If he had done real damage (especially to the kid), he might have ended up giving the place to the tenants. I wonder if the tenants were truly delinquent.
Perhaps Detroit will use its stable of unsold Hummers as a wrecking crew for all the unsold and foreclosed homes that'll have to come down now that that city's good days are over. Pains me to say that... my mom was born in Detroit.
We haven't considered whether the landlord was trying to shed the mortal coil. I sense another emerging RE trend.
It may be that both Prius and Hummer owners are asking for attention. But if so the difference is that Prius owners are saying "look at me I'm smartly riding the wave of the future" while Hummer owners are saying "look at me I'm a garish buffoon with too much money for my own good." And in both cases they would be correct.
he showed 'em, alrighty
Thanks T - that is just perfect!
Good thing I wasn't drinking anything...
Which one has depreciated more in value? house or hummer
CR, can we start a little futures market to place bets on how many banks will fail on a given Friday? I bet one today.....
I pity the landlord-- think about how much gasoline that action has cost!
The guy watched too much Terminator movies...
Who the hell does he think he is...Da Guvernator?
My bet is either two small banks or Wachovia.
Well one FATCAT in NewJersey lost out in the mortgage bust
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Sadly, it was actually a cat who's owner lost her home in foreclosure, and is now being "exploited" by Regis and Kelly.
p.s. hope this ain't a dupe!
Psss! Show me your hall pass or get back to your classroom!
FDIC: Failed Bank List
Nothing yet...back to work
There was a situation like that in San Francisco where the landlords. a married couple, actually sawed through the floor joists below the tenants' apartment, because they didn't like them and wanted them to leave. Or die. Or something.
Reminds me of EMAN's "You fart and I stink..."
Be even funnier if they weren't home.
I bet there is more to it then just late rent payments.
I am not the least surprised - given the few people that I've met that own Hummers. Those that choose the Hummer are doing so to make a statement, they know perfectly well what a pig the thing is and they WANT it for exactly that reason. These are not people who make rational decisions based on mpg, resale value, utility, etc... They wanted a vehicle that looked like it could run everything else off the road and flatten it. So, it is not surprising at all that someone who chose a Hummer would fail to do some simple math and critical long-term thinking as to what their behavior was going to cost them by totaling their own building.
Who wants to bet this dude won't be able to get ANY kind of insurance coverage after this?
Who also wants to bet we are looking at a future Darwin Awards candidate?
Nah, I liked the "Extreme Home Makeover" foreclosure story (earlier this week) much better.
To be somewhat serious, there are some jurisdictions (not in Fla), where it is hard to impossible to evict somebody. Maryland was supposed to be one of them, years ago, don't know about now. Delaware too?
Just had to soothe a crying landlord; tenant agreed at Mediation to get out on a certain day and didn't. I drafted a notice of Noncompliance, and sent her down to the local courthouse with it. The tenants were also filthy. Trouble is, what with all the foreclosed buyers to kick out the Miami-Dade sheriff is 3-4 weeks behind.
OT: Lou Barnes saying that Walkaways will go mainstream
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Virtually every behind client I counsel, I advise to walk away, their credit is usually already trashed, and they are utterly, hopelessly, irretrivably underwater.
I NEVER gave such advice before, say, the last 3 months. Never. But I am not a priestess a shrink or their mommy. I'm advising from a strictly financial point of view.
ArtElectric, I believe most Hummer owners do it for show. (What else could you do it for? They're uncomfortable gas guzzling monsters)
I don't think it's a show of power, though. I think it's a show of wealth: "look how much money I have to waste!"
Perhaps this landlord took that effort to another level in this story.
I drove behind one yesterday, black with lots of tricked out shiny chrome stuff. One bumper sticker: "powered by Biodiesel".
I laughed out loud.
"I don't think it's a show of power"....
Yeah, it is an ATTEMPT to show "I'm powerful" but someone who really is powerful doesn't need to advertise their "strength" now do they?
In fact, about every con man going wears great clothes, jewelry, cars....
The weaker you are the more desperate you are to SHOW you aren't. The stronger you are the less need you have to prove it, to anyone.
Hey, why scratch the paint?
Wrap a chain around the roof and pull it off. Let the freeloading squatters live in a tent if they can get it financed. Call it "remodeling".
Just kidding, the Hummers other then the H1 really are a POS. You can get a King Cab class4 dually for that price. LOL.
Lawyerliz, when you say 'walk away' do you mean leave, or stop paying the mortgage until evicted? I know of several people in the Northern VA area claiming to do the latter; one says he hasn't paid his mortgage in over 6 months without any word from his servicer.
No worries. The landlord should just explain himself to the powers that be and they will give him a rebate check to make it all better.
"Virtually every behind client I counsel, I advise to walk away... from a financial point of view"
Wouldn't it be better to counsel them to just stop paying but stay in the house until the sheriff finally comes and kicks them out? From a financial point of view, why leave when elsewhere you'll have to pay rent?
I drove behind one yesterday, black with lots of tricked out shiny chrome stuff. One bumper sticker: "powered by Biodiesel".
I laughed out loud.
pandamime | 08.01.08 - 5:23 pm | #
Even funnier are the Hummers with the yellow "support the troops" magnets on them. People say that Obama is not patriotic cuz sometimes he does not wear a flag lapel pin. But it is Hummer owners who truely hate America.
this is way too easy, next!
Why Prices Will Keep Falling.
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Hmmm... what a genius!
Be careful with the truck comments. No true truck owner would ever drive a hummer. Not too mention that today's trucks (at least mine) shut down cylinders when they're not needed - I get better gas mileage than most sedans even though I can fit them in the bed of my truck while I drive over the dinky little hummers.
Hooray! The Bricolage tag!
Just had to soothe a crying landlord
Awwwwww.
[snicker]
Leo Strauss, the Godfather of the neo-cons, taught his students the Machiavellian doctrine that you can't let the "masses" know the truth because they go mad.
Perhaps old Mach was onto something. How much sense does this incident make? It doesn't even serve the ego...sheesh!
This is what Hummer's are engineered for, WTF do you want him to do, go shopping and ignore this attack on his wealth?
I think the Hummer drivers and the Prius drivers are about the same, really. Its about " NOTICE ME ", except Prius drivers will block the passing lane too. Its just a four cyclinder car hauling around a one thousand pound battery.
Ott from Ogletown? Nothing to ogle here....move along....
Re: Its just a four cyclinder car hauling around a one thousand pound battery.
Generally, these types of cars haul 2 people that weigh 500 pounds each...
Could 30-year-old Mr. Ott be a disgruntled graduate of a fast-buck real estate seminar? Sounds like he's a novice landlord who got in over his head with investment properties.
Man cuts off nose to smite face. That snarky face had it coming.
Watch the Prius remarks, please. There are idiots driving all makes - no need to get personal.
Naw, its pretty much Prius owners.
By walk away, I usually mean stay there until evicted.
If they want to leave sooner, ok by me.
In Miami Dade, the sheriff puts up a big red sign that says get out in 24 hours or else. Doesn't actually mean they show up in 24 hours, but you do get a day's notice to get your stuff out. Only the really hard core wait that long.
My crying landlady is really nice, and her filthy tenants are scum; she thinks they are involved in various illegal activities involving controlled substances, but can't prove it. You'd like her; you wouldn't like the tenants.
Prius = conspicuous conservatio
"There are idiots driving all makes - no need to get personal."
Yeah, the jerks with the super-bright blinding headlights, and the fools who, I suspect, drive with their high beams on to fake having the fancy bright lights.
Extra credit goes to jackasses who get the super-bright headlights and then have them incorrectly aimed.
"I think the Hummer drivers and the Prius drivers are about the same, really."
Nah. A Prius driver might recoup the price premium they paid. A Hummer driver is looking at pure loss.
Lawyerliz, you might encourage your landlady to join an association. They can help with credit reports, background checks, rental agreements, disclosures, etc.
"Feckless Ness writes:
Watch the Prius remarks, please. There are idiots driving all makes - no need to get personal."
Prius idiots tend to be the kind who bought the car to say 'look at me, I'm enlightened.' I say that as a Prius owner. But most of us aren't like that.
Tanta, super journalism. This is the quality of the landed gentry in the USA...
Everyone who drives a car or truck is a faggit.
yours in Christ,
Isamu
Prius idiots tend to be the kind who bought the car to say 'look at me, I'm enlightened.'
This fits the profile of several friends of mine who own a Prius. They're also Compact Fluorescent Light Nazis. When it's time to replace the CFLs, they're too lazy to properly dispose of them; they just throw them in the trash, despite the mercury content. And they take the elevator to a second story office...
Mr. Ott is 30. Thirty is young to be a landlord. No idea what Ott's profession might be, but I'd doubt he is anything particularly handy--an electrician or plumber or mechanic isn't too likely to deliberately cause himself more work. I'd agree with the comment back up aways suggesting this dude is a Get-Rich-quick-via-realty class dropout.
OT snarkiness
Prius, Hummers, the more expensive types of minivans...round 'em all up, crush the vehicles, and take away the owners licenses. Some attitudes should not be allowed out on public highways. (Mine, of course, excluded.)
I always thought "getting a Hummer" was a good thing.
uneasy one,not if you end up SUV positive.
According to the article, Mr. Ott's brother was acting as property manager; I'm guessing no "pay rent or quit" notice was filed. If he had done real damage (especially to the kid), he might have ended up giving the place to the tenants. I wonder if the tenants were truly delinquent.
To be eligible for the 'Darwin Award" he'd have had to die in this incident.
Try harder next time Ott...
"not if you end up SUV positive."
"Prius = conspicuous conservation"
You guys are killing me. Thanks!
Perhaps Detroit will use its stable of unsold Hummers as a wrecking crew for all the unsold and foreclosed homes that'll have to come down now that that city's good days are over. Pains me to say that... my mom was born in Detroit.
Nor Car,
Darwin Awards are also given to the living who damage their own reproductive organs proving Darwin's thesis of survival of only the fittest.
Give him time...he's a definite candidate.
I simply love SUV positive.
LOL
We haven't considered whether the landlord was trying to shed the mortal coil. I sense another emerging RE trend.
It may be that both Prius and Hummer owners are asking for attention. But if so the difference is that Prius owners are saying "look at me I'm smartly riding the wave of the future" while Hummer owners are saying "look at me I'm a garish buffoon with too much money for my own good." And in both cases they would be correct.
I was wondering what was going on with Armondo Montelongo of Flip This House.
Thanks for the update
First he drove a Geo into the house . . . but no one noticed.