CNBC Anchor Stunned ...

It's a generational buy

Buy, Buy, Buy, ...Dive, dive, dive sounds the same!!!

Greenspan's deputy, Ben Bernanke, also has been pushing the myth of deflation and pledging that the Fed will print paper without limit to ensure "it doesn't happen here." In a speech last November, Bernanke spoke boldly of that inflationist "technology" at the Fed's disposal -- the printing presses: "By increasing the number of U.S. dollars in circulation, or even by credibly threatening to do so, the U.S. government can also reduce the value of a dollar in terms of goods and services, which is equivalent to raising the prices in dollars of those goods and services. We conclude that, under a paper-money system, a determined government can always generate higher spending and hence positive inflation." The markets were so "reassured" by these irresponsible central bank pledges last fall that the gold price sky-rocketed still further.

Deflation Myth by Richard M. Salsman -- Capitalism
Magazine

They don't seem to get it, do they?

Economist Alan Blinder’s 2007 working study, “How Many U.S. Jobs May be Offshorable?,” made a powerful claim about the US economy: that at least 22% of all US jobs are offshorable.
Study Confirms Much of U.S. Labor Market 'Offshorable' -- Seeking Alpha

lol -- joe kernan's "$6.88 might be a buy!" could quite possibly go down in market history alongside famous last words such as "permanently high plateau".

OMG!!
I'm in yr bankks, stillin' yr bucky!

I don't think he was gonna buy at $6.88

Ok, all else aside, that was f*ing AWESOME.

"Are you issuing a buy?"

Dude...I'm issuing a BYE!

That's pretty awesome.

Bernanke caters to the wealthy, who keep their money offshore, untaxed, and in currencies other than the dollar. Let the poor eat Twinkies - even if they cost $4.99.

Its actually an interesting question: There is an implicit guarentee on the bonds (which is still strong, 75 basis points over treasuries is not that much), is there an implicit guarentee on the stock?

If there is, what is the level?

What the hell, we don't have any more constitutional rights anyway.

It's like everyone in the government and those who have been living high on the hog the last few years have totally forgotten what it even means to have a country and government.

Selfish asshats in the financial markets and idiots in government ruining us all, and there's nothing we can do.

I sincerely hope at least a few of these bastards lose all their personal wealth.

The honour, recommended by the UK Foreign Office and approved by the Queen in August, is in recognition of Greenspan's "contribution to global economic stability."

Greenspan, 76, has been dubbed the second most powerful man in America and has steered the country's economy through four presidencies.

"It's a very unusual day for an economist," he said, as he received the knighthood at the queen's Balmoral estate in the Scottish Highlands.

"I am deeply appreciative of this honour which I shall always cherish," he said.

Re: While borrowers can refinance fixed-rate mortgages, Greenspan said homeowners were paying as much as 0.5 to 1.2 percentage points for that right and the protection against a potential rate rise, which could increase annual after-tax payments by several thousand dollars.

He said a Fed study suggested many homeowners could have saved tens of thousands of dollars in the last decade if they had ARMs. Those savings would not have been realized, however, had interest rates shot up.

"American consumers might benefit if lenders provided greater mortgage product alternatives to the traditional fixed-rate mortgage," Greenspan said.

Joseph McKenzie, deputy chief economist at the Federal Housing Finance Board, says buyers like the stability of fixed-rate mortgages, but there is increasing flexibility in products. "There are lots of innovative programs, especially targeting low-income and first-time buyers," he says.

Is the market up because FRE and FNM are going to fail - which will bring a goverment bailout which mean the Fed has out back to buy everything on cheap now ?

He should have bought - could have made 20% in a few hours or about 200% if he bought the right options.
This was a pretty lame post though...

What an angry termination by Frank! He just cut off a senator who had asked three brilliant questions. The second regarded the monetization of interventions and the remaining size of the Fed's balance sheet. The third was whether the Fed had any limitations on the kinds of bailouts it could invoke under its emergency circumstances clause.

Frank cut off the line of questioning very aggressively before Bernanke could be compelled to answer!

I'm stunned! This is a little nerve-wracking.

So what do folks see in the crystal ball for GE's earnings tomorrow?

what was the first question, ndk?

I had CNBC on in the background this morning, and when David Faber made his little exclamation, I was not sure I had heard it right.

Gotta love the Tivo.

The first question was whether he would consult and engage Congress before enacting any further bailouts to make sure that all relevant legislation were honored. Bernanke did answer that one, noting that Congress was indeed involved and consulted throughout the BSC weekend.

The questions were very civil, backed with detailed figures on the Fed's current balance sheet -- with all due respect to Ron Paul -- and I would be very interested in having heard those answers.

The parade of "All-stars" and the things being discussed have me presently a little more frightened than I've been at any other point since this started slipping in Dec. 06 with the ABX.

So what do folks see in the crystal ball for GE's earnings tomorrow?

Its going to be bad. They are still dangling the fact that their lucrative appliance business could be sold. This isn't good news before earnings...

Bill Miller must be loving life. Freddie Mac is one of his Legg Mason Value Trust fund's top 10 holdings.

LMVTX: Holdings for LEGG MASON CAPITAL MANAGEMENT V - Yahoo! Finance

Among his other smart plays have been Countrywide and Bear Stearns. This guy can't get a break.

Where is that Gm death watch again?

You know what people are missing here, the issue that a bank like WaMu has about $300 Billion in shit loans and those securities are hot potatoes that are swapped from place to place, and that Fannie/Freddie are part of the game called systemic failure!

I was in the field buckin' hay when Nellie, my market-wise horse, alerted me. I fell down right there and cried. Cried hard, 'cuz I was long FRE,FNM with a target of 30. I just bawled like a new born calf. I think I broke my thimblewhit too.

"and that Fannie/Freddie are part of the game called systemic failure!"

I don't think anyone is missing that point here......

@ ndk.......

I am sure there is word out among the powerful to not stoke the fear....

Fear is a giant killer in a fractional reserve fiat economy.

They are in quite a pickle....make that WE

Listen:

PPT.....psssss......pfffffffft......PPT.......pffffffft........pssssssss........PPT........pffffffffft.........pssssssss......PPT.....psss...pfffffff....

Can't stop that leaking. Don't worry, there ain't that much water in Lake Pontchartrain, anyway.....

"I don't think he was gonna buy at $6.88"

No, that is probably because the stupid ass drank the kool-aid and already owns it.

Mark my words - today's lows of FRE and FNM WILL BE RETESTED. All time record hourly volume, daily volume, weekly volume, monthly volume at those lows now.

Interest Rates and Fed: Hoenig Says Fed Should Hike Rates 'As Soon As Possible' - CNBC

"Hoenig, a former bank supervisor who keeps a pair of binoculars handy to monitor financial institutions in the city's skyscrapers, has been president of the Kansas City Fed since October 1991."

Uh...did I read that right? So he's a peeper?

David, I agree that there is an aggregate effort right now to shore up confidence as much as possible.

However, the scope and magnitude of this effort, along with its urgency -- trotting out Jamie Dimon and Ken Lewis, and two showings from Bernanke and Paulson in two days -- has been unprecedented. So have the light in which they've been presented: the super-stars term is not mine! A Bloomberg article just called them heroes!

I greatly appreciate their efforts, and understand the motivation. It's all got a very creepy, homoncular feeling to it, though. If the politburo is pushing so hard so abruptly to look good, there's probably underlying reasons that cause me to get precisely the opposite feeling from the intended.

Mark my words - today's lows of FRE and FNM WILL BE RETESTED.

Agree and broken maybe today

502 visitors...

paging the PPT !

"So what do folks see in the crystal ball for GE's earnings tomorrow"

Welch promised that Imelt wouldn't ever miss earnings again. Gonna beat by a penny just like Jack.

Thank God it's Friday, I need the weekend to think this over...

You will be able to watch re-runs on C-SPAN.org. Scroll video archive.

Great clip.. thanks CR and NEMO.

515 online...but why?

The number of US homes foreclosed upon in June nearly tripled, rising 53%, according to RealtyTrac.
In fact, the level of bank foreclosures has reached unparalleled levels with 1 out every 501 households in the U.S. facing some sort of foreclosure or notice of default. RealtyTrack noted that bank seizures of US homes rose 171% in June.
RealtyTrac's vice president of marketing was quoted as saying that foreclosure activity has not been this high since the Great Depression of the 1930s. Other experts say the home foreclosure problem will overhang the US economy well into the next decade.

It's official, mkt is ok:

CFTC says no evidence of oil manipulation, hoarding
| Markets
| Reuters

The head of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission told Congress on Thursday there is no evidence that market traders are working together to push up crude oil prices or that oil supplies are being hoarded.

"We have no evidence that people are hoarding oil," CFTC Chairman Walter Lukken told a House Appropriations subcommittee. He also said the CFTC doesn't "see systemically in the current market" that traders are "working together" to drive up prices.

So we are all FHA now! If you thought Fannie and Freddie were idiotic organisations, you haven't seen anything yet.

dk. Appreciate your comments. I wasn't going to bother watching the hearings because I figure it would all be bs...they all know it's bad, but will simply cover it up. Hadn't thought about in the light you mention: they are all scared to death????

Thanks for that.

"You can't raise equity at $6.88..."

Tick tock...Tick tock.

Cheers,

I just hope someone videos the hangings and post them on YouTube.

he Dodd-Frank mortgage bailout creates a new housing trust fund that will collect an estimated $530 million a year through a new levy on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. The levy must be paid whether Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac make a profit or not.
The tax increase is part of broader housing legislation that gives $300 billion in new taxpayer loan guarantees through the FHA. The new program allows banks to cherry-pick the worst loans in their portfolio and shift the liability to U.S. taxpayers.
FreedomWorks President Matt Kibbe commented, "Rome is burning, and the Senate is adding lighter fluid.

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Go short

Quick. Someone get this guy a copy of the Wright Model B.

Amazing...they trotted out all the asshats on FDIC day.

Now these hearings a week away from humphrey hawkings. Oh yeah...this economy is strong, the dollar is strong, we've avoided systemic risk, the next one is no where in sight, we're gabbing here, nothing to see, move along.

Cheers,

Hopefully we'll have nuclear war before these stocks retest their lows; that way it'll be the greatest rebuilding effort in history and we'll all be rich.

rumors that Pimco's a little nervous about sending trades Lehman's way are only adding to the volatility.

prairiedog,

Thanks. It's been a rather spectacular display of bravado, while the TED spread is back above 1.12, FNM/FRE can't even raise capital, and there are bad rumors about many books.

As soon as Bernanke mentioned the PDCF being open for business indefinitely, I got a chill. Bless them all for trying so hard. Bless even more Poole for being honest.

p.s. Sorry we had you and your colony vacuumed out of our office park. Hopefully you like the new neighborhood. Laughing out loud

I'm late to the party. Turned on cnbc to see Henry Waxman asking Bernanke why Blackrock won a no-bid contract. What for?

Bernanke said he "would look into it."

In the larger picture the Dow has been range-bound since the beginning of the month, as seen in the 15 and 60 Minute Charts. Today' move carried the index back to the bottom of this range, completely reversing yesterday's bullish move. Overall the technicals continue look weak for the Dow.

CR,

Do you think Faber would be stunned by these bears?
Tiny URL - create a shorter link

I do!

dt: I thought I heard a giant sucking sound....now I know what it was..

Turned on cnbc to see Henry Waxman asking Bernanke why Blackrock won a no-bid contract. What for?

Blackrock manages Bear Stearns' $30B portfolio as part of the JPM bailout.

Waxman does such a great job with follow up; he will ask a question then fade away like a crappy FM station..

Also see: hat If They Are Telling the Truth?

When a high-powered official makes some really harebrained statement about the economy, I always assume that it is for political purposes and that he or she really knows what's going on.

For example, Alan Greenspan told The Washington Post recently that he first became aware of the explosion in sub-prime mortgage debt in January of 2006, his last month as Fed chairman. But the growth in sub-prime lending was not a trade secret -- by 2006 it was a widely noted development among people following the housing market and the economy.

In the same vein, Jose Manuel Barroso, the European Commission president, complained last week about the weak dollar at the same time he defended the European Central Bank's (ECB) recent interest-rate hike.

Bill Miller is WS whipping boy...

Jamie sales trader
"hey bill, have youheard aboutENE! It's great , there earnings are gonna be spectacular! Take a million from me! "

Bill...'I'll take 2million shares

"ndt: I thought I heard a giant sucking sound....now I know what it was.."

Bernanke evacuating his bowels in his pants?

these two dumb bastards still sit across from each other and talk stocks?, like they know what they're talking about?

i thought this schtick died with the last bear market. jeez.

Shares of commodity risk management firm FCStone Group Inc (FCSX.O: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) slumped over 50 percent Thursday, its biggest percentage drop ever, after posting a quarterly profit that fell short of analysts' view.

CStone, which helps companies manage risks related to commodities trading, reported earnings of $8.0 million, or 28 cents a share, compared with $8.1 million, or 29 cents a share last year.

Hahahahaaaahahaha LOL! ROTFLMAO! Bawahahahahahaaaa...

OT: I have a solution for Dodd, Bernanke, Paulson, Bush, et al:

A Russian woman in St Petersburg killed her drunk husband with a folding couch, Russian media reported on Wednesday.

St Petersburg's Channel Five said the man's wife, upset with her husband for being drunk and refusing to get up, kicked a handle after an argument, activating a mechanism that folds the couch up against a wall.

re: FCSX.O

Tell the truth; you thick-fingered a quote for Freeport, didn't you?

Now I remember why I don't watch CNBC...it is visual noise with all those tickers speeding along at the top and bottom of the screen. That is the definition of information overload. Why would anyone watch the ticker for trade information anyway when you can just set up your computer to ping you when there's a trade in a name you are interested in. And then these guys are just blathering on...total waste of mental effort.

Where is the Chinese government? They are losing their shorts on their agency portfolio today. You would think they would be at least buying the agency debt. Maybe they only buy the new issues and don't trade on the secondary market. Any thoughts?

Speed wrote:
Bernanke caters to the wealthy, who keep their money offshore, untaxed, and in currencies other than the dollar. Let the poor eat Twinkies - even if they cost $4.99.


i'm not committed to an international currency (gold!?)

but

lets face it, the wealthy, smart, elite, who understand international finance and have the where-with-all to move assetts and business off shore profit from the ups and downs of currencies and economies

WOULD THIS BE POSSIBLE WITH ONE INTERNATIONAL CURRENCY?

answer this question. if you live and work in oregon do you care that there is an imbalance of trade between your state and say california. NO

because you are free to move about the country and live and work and spend your money regardless.

in the world of international free trade most of us are stuck holding on to the gunwales of a sinking boat.

"Oh my god."

That response sounded almost personal. Like he just witnessed his own portfolio being run over by a semi.

Yeah, I agree about GE, they will make their number, or Inmelt will drink hemlock. I might go flat later today.

The fear in the PPT is palpable.

If there ever was a time to really worry, it is now.

For what little it's worth, my guess is that GE beats estimates tomorrow and the Dow jumps 500 points.

"Hoenig, a former bank supervisor who keeps a pair of binoculars handy to monitor financial institutions in the city's skyscrapers, has been president of the Kansas City Fed since October 1991."

Uh...did I read that right? So he's a peeper?
Anonymous | 07.10.08 - 12:45 pm

Whatever. That's oldschool monitoring. Now they just wiretap your broadband and assign you a subversiveness quotient.

There is no way I waste my time on any of the business channels. In my opinion, this is INFOTAINMENT and not information. And it's pretty apparant by this clip that these people have no experience in a bad market, during stressful conditions, or in times of economic uncertainty because they are born and bred American dopes (TM Jas). Honestly, if Maria could show more boob as she breathlessly covered a topic to get the ratings up, I'm sure she would. That's what's important here...business news for the proles.

View it as entertainment and move on. Sort of like People or The Star or US of the Business World.

Don't even get me started on the Congressional hearings.

St Petersburg's Channel Five said the man's wife, upset with her husband for being drunk and refusing to get up, kicked a handle after an argument, activating a mechanism that folds the couch up against a wall.

I think I saw that on Tom and Jerry.

Bill Gross just said that with the "window" open, there will be no more failures of large institutions.

"St Petersburg's Channel Five said the man's wife, upset with her husband for being drunk and refusing to get up, kicked a handle after an argument, activating a mechanism that folds the couch up against a wall."

Russians must be fond of things that fold or close. In 1917, the top of a grand piano was used at the naval headquarters in Moscow to execute a number of people. Blood flowed down the marble hallway.

OK, things that fold. I'll remember that.

Death by Couch: My great aunt died in a Murphy Bed.

Now, do we need another fiscal stimulus package? It has helped. The GDP is going to come out in a few weeks and I expect the second quarter to be up between 2% and 3%. If you remember, it was 1% the previous two quarters. But what happens is if oil prices don't go down, the third and fourth quarter could be much weaker, particularly the fourth quarter which we might want to think about another fiscal stimulus package then. There is one thing that...this is under Bush's watch.

You know, the truth of the matter is we know that taxes are going to go up. Tax rates are going to go up whether McCain wins or Obama wins, because we are going to have a Democratically controlled Congress and the Bush tax cuts are going to expire. So that's going to be a reality.

But, one thing that is very important and that is the most important thing we can do to close the deficit is not to start raising taxes, especially under a weak economy, but to stimulate economic growth. I mean Clinton balanced the budget not really through new taxes, but by an incredible growth surge that we had through the 1990s and that's when we balanced it.

Jeremy Siegel on the Bear Market, Sky-high Oil Prices and Other Bad News - Knowledge@Wharton

Death by Folding furniture:

glumbert - The Folding Chair

NDK, who are they aiming their efforts at, though? The "little people" are all out already. The big players are not too "impressible" by celebrity testimony.

dk writes:
What an angry termination by Frank! He just cut off a senator who had asked three brilliant questions. The second regarded the monetization of interventions and the remaining size of the Fed's balance sheet. The third was whether the Fed had any limitations on the kinds of bailouts it could invoke under its emergency circumstances clause.

Frank cut off the line of questioning very aggressively before Bernanke could be compelled to answer!

I'm stunned! This is a little nerve-wracking


CNBC must have got the call to cut to commercial as well. Totally unreal. Very scary. These guys are scared to death

"Now, do we need another fiscal stimulus package? It has helped. The GDP is going to come out in a few weeks and I expect the second quarter to be up between 2% and 3%."

Maybe, but the downward revisions to 07Q4 and 08Q1 will be ugly!

Is it possible to have Dodd & Bernanke do a sleepover tonight?

But, But, But this is the greatest ponzi scheme ever created by man. Greater fools will come and we'll all be filthy stink'en rich.

Is it possible to have Dodd & Bernanke do a sleepover tonight?

If he's lucky he'll get a reach around.

CR
can you post the clip of the questions -and the cut off by Frank - mentioned earlier in this thread by ndk? The questions Frank doesn't want answered might just be the ones investors should be thinking about most.
TIA

Maybe we should redo Bastille Day with these idiots.

It's really sad that Ron Paul was shut up again, didn't get to hear what ben and paulson had to say. He'll get his answers in writing again...!

Speaking of new inventions, I'm working on a deal with Fox & CNBC to install Depends-cam for those moments where a truth detector just wont work

Every PPT pump is met with continued selling.

But, one thing that is very important and that is the most important thing we can do to close the deficit is not to start raising taxes, especially under a weak economy, but to stimulate economic growth.
Just a quick question. We are going to have the largest deficit in history this year. There will likely be more stimuli handed out over the next few years.

As unpleasant as it is, taxes WILL have to be raised otherwise that AAA of the U.S. will not stand for much longer even if F&F survive without a bailout.

And an additional note, the Bush tax cuts were about as unfair as they come, even if revenue neutral, their composition needs to changed and quickly.

They're gonna go pound a fifth a Stoli and do that funny Russian kicking dance thing, raising a red sickle flag, and pumping their fists in the air.

Got comunism?

Cheers,

"Maybe we should redo Bastille Day with these idiots."

I second that motion.

I can't see any of this congressional hoo-hah on TV, because I did not pay.

It's been a long time, and I want Edgar. Where's Edgar?

He used to post here all the time, saying what's what. Which one of you charlatans are pretending not to be Edgar?

If you're Edgar, stand up and be counted FCS.

So this questioning is now just orchestrated propoganda between cronies to dupe the public?

Lets expose this BS!

I dont want the kind of "reform" (socialization of their losses) these bastards want to shove down our throats!

Lehman better start backdating those new incentive options, pronto.

Does anyone know what this garbage is here:

Fixed-to-Floating Rate
Non-Cumulative
Perpetual Preferred Stock

Freddie Mac Investor Preferred Stock Offerings

Re: http://www.freddiemac.com/investors/pdffiles/FtFPrefStock-oc.pdf

Joint Book-Running Managers
LEHMAN BROTHERS GOLDMAN, SACHS & CO.
Senior Co-Lead Manager
BEAR, STEARNS & CO. INC.

28-May-08 IMMELT JEFFREY R
Officer 115,000 Direct Purchase at $30.59 - $30.66 per share. $3,522,000

Sue, I'm not so sure all the "little people" are out at all. They also have a very large audience of investment advisors they can speak to who may be more receptive to their message.

The orchestrated action is a proactive attempt to stop a panic, which is good, stealthwii@gmail.com. I don't think it'll be successful, ultimately, and I feel more worried that they feel it's necessary, but it'd be unthinkable for them to just mutely stand by as FNM/FRE fail.

Hmmmm....

If Freddie Mac is dissolved or liquidated, you will be
entitled to receive, out of any assets available for distribu-
tion to our stockholders, up to $25 per share of Preferred
Stock plus the dividend for the then-current quarterly
dividend period accrued through and including the liquida-
tion payment date, whether or not declared.

Hmmmm X2:

If we are not able to meet the
30% mandatory target capital surplus, OFHEO may, among other things, seek to require us to
(a) submit a plan for remediation or (b) implement other remedial steps. In addition, OFHEO has
discretion to reduce our capital classiÑcation by one level if OFHEO determines that we are
engaging in conduct OFHEO did not approve that could result in a rapid depletion of core capital or
determines that the value of property subject to mortgage loans we hold or guarantee has decreased
signiÑcantly. See Regulation and SupervisionÌOÇce of Federal Housing Enterprise OversightÌ
Capital Standards in our November 20, 2007 Information Statement Supplement relating to our
Ñnancial report for the three and nine months ended September 30, 2007 (the ""November 20, 2007
Information Statement Supplement'') and Note 10: Regulatory CapitalÌClassiÑcation to our
consolidated Ñnancial statements in the Information Statement for information regarding additional
potential actions OFHEO may seek to take against us.

For those who don't know Joe kernan, I'm thinking his "buy" comment was pure snark. he's got pretty deadpan humor.

cheerleader, yes. but also a sense of humor. And he gets snarky at times.

Everything is a buy at CNBC. I'm banking on those guys to buy back some of my worthless Commerce One stock.

Fannie, Freddie plunge on rescue report
Fannie, Freddie plunge on reports of feds planning bailout - Jul. 10, 2008

The government doesn't expect the firms to fail and no rescue plan is imminent, according to the report. But the paper reported that talks, which it said had previously been part of normal contingency planning, have become more serious recently.

The two companies own or guarantee about $5 trillion of mortgages -- or nearly half of all U.S. home-mortgage debt outstanding.

Kou Jie ,

If you are apologizing that something has been done, "Sumimasen deshita (すみませんでした)" can be used.

So, what about this Tanta & CR, et al?? What about the 30% mandatory target capital surplus, required by OFHEO????

What sane person would actually be buying financials right now? I still think we end the day massively down. Even a massive pump can't keep this leaky vessel afloat

Down to 414 on-line, and the S&P is up 10+. Got calls?

Fannie and Freddie are going to be turned into hamburger.

Bernanke could say, "Mr. Market, would you like fries with that?"

OT
there were actually only three missiles, which is 25 per cent less threatening to the world's oil supply

Time to buy...rally........

Lehman Pares Losses After Trading Rumor Rebuttals

Lehman Pares Losses After Rumor Rebuttals - CNBC

Officials from both SAC Capital, a giant hedge fund with more than $16 billion under management, and PIMCO, the world's largest bond fund, denied rumors that were circulating in the marketplace that they no longer wanted to take on additional exposure to Lehman.

SAC Capital told CNBC it "is continuing to do business as usual with Lehman."

SAC Capital spokesman Jonathan Gasthalter said rumors that SAC had stopped taking so-called counterparty risk, where it would no longer lend money Lehman - effectively pulling its credit lines - are "absolutely false."

Pimco Chief Investement Officer Bill Gross appeared on CNBC to refute the rumors that it has scaled back its business with Lehman.

mp writes:
homedad- "mp: what's the cigar of choice?"

Macanudo Duke of Devon Maduro
mp | 07.10.08 - 12:30 pm | #

These guys have a half off sale on MP's cigar of choice.

The page cannot be found 475.html

does that mean the bottom is in?
Taos | 07.10.08 - 1:44 pm | #

But what truly makes your skin crawl is FNM’s announcement of their new Home Saver Initiative program , which apparently commenced during Jan of 08… details for this program can be found on pg. 79 of their 10 k released last week. In essence , qualified borrowers can get an unsecured loan to pay their delinquent mortgage balances from FNM. So , combining removing caps as to the loan amount for FNM / commencing the removal of the requirement that FNM maintain capital in excess of 30 percent of the minimum statutory requirement / and the Home Saver Initiative program , assures that FNM will be rendered formally insolvent and bailed out by the taxpayers within 2- 3 years .

Fannie and Freddie: Burnt Offerings : The Disciplined Investor

My last comment was awful, just awful.

A LIE, NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES IT IS REPEATED, IS STILL A LIE.

There is no government guarantee on GSE paper. Pick one up and read it yourself. It has giant bold print that explicitly disclaims any government guarantee whatsoever.

You cannot have an "implicit guarantee" when you have an explicit denial of guarantee.

Anybody telling you there is an implicit guarantee is a liar.

Anon,

多谢 !

But I still cannot fathom Sumimasen's post...

Fitch Affirms Fannie Mae's 'AAA' IDR & 'AA-' Pfd Stock on Planned $7B Pfd Issuance
Fitch Affirms Fannie Mae's 'AAA' IDR & 'AA-' Pfd Stock on Planned $7B Pfd Issuance | Business Wire | Find Articles at BNET

Fitch's rating affirmation follows today's announcement that FNM plans to issue $7 billion of non-convertible preferred stock via one or more issues in December 2007. FNM also announced that it will reduce its common stock dividend by 30% in 2008. Fitch expects to assign a 'AA-' rating to the new preferred issue(s). The proposed issuance will increase preferred stock to approximately $17 billion and result in preferred stock comprising 42% of total capital on a US GAAP basis. The issuance exceeds eligible equity credit for hybrids under Fitch's hybrid capital rules. Fitch will include the preferred issuance up to the maximum 30% eligibility under these rules.

The additional preferred stock is designed to increase the capital cushion to meet the temporary additional 30% mandatory target capital surplus as required by the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight (OFHEO). FNM has provided some prospective metrics that highlight management's expectation that domestic mortgage markets will remain challenging in 2008 and will likely have a negative impact of consolidated financial performance. Management believes that the additional capital will allow FNM to navigate through the forecasted stress and provide it with adequate flexibility to pursue growth.

http://www.freddiemac.com/investors/ar/pdf/2007annualrpt.pdf

Risk-Based Capital. The risk-based capital standard requires the application of a stress test to determine the
amount of total capital that we must hold to absorb projected losses resulting from adverse interest-rate and credit-
risk conditions speciÑed by the GSE Act and adds 30% additional capital to provide for management and operations
risk. The adverse interest-rate conditions prescribed by the GSE Act include one scenario in which 10-year Treasury
yields rise by as much as 75% (up-rate scenario) and one in which they fall by as much as 50% (down-rate scenario).
The credit risk component of the stress tests simulates the performance of our mortgage portfolio based on loss rates
for a benchmark region. The criteria for the benchmark region are established by the GSE Act and are intended to
capture the credit-loss experience of the region that experienced the highest historical rates of default and severity of
mortgage losses for two consecutive origination years.

Our failure to manage to the mandatory target capital surplus would result in an OFHEO inquiry regarding the reason
for such failure. If OFHEO were to determine that we had acted unreasonably regarding our compliance with the
framework, as set forth in OFHEO's letter, OFHEO could seek to require us to submit a remedial plan or take other
remedial steps. We reported to OFHEO that our estimated capital surplus at November 30, 2007 was below the 30%
mandatory target capital surplus. In order to manage to the 30% mandatory target capital surplus and to improve business
Öexibility, we reduced our common stock dividend for the fourth quarter of 2007, issued $6.0 billion of non-cumulative,
perpetual preferred stock and reduced the size of our retained and cash and investments portfolio. See ""RISK
FACTORSÌCompetitive and Market RisksÌMarket uncertainty and volatility may adversely aÅect our business,
proÑtability, results of operations and capital management.'' However, as of December 31, 2007, we reported to OFHEO
that we exceeded each of our regulatory capital requirements in addition to the 30% mandatory target capital surplus.
OFHEO has announced that it will discuss with management a gradual decrease of the 30% mandatory target capital
surplus as we complete the requirements of the consent order. The approach and timing of this decrease will also include
consideration of our Ñnancial condition, our overall risk proÑle and current market conditions. It will also include
consideration of the importance of remaining soundly capitalized to fulÑll our public purpose and recent temporary
expansion of our mission.

They issued trash from Bear Sterns and now they have conformed to the 30% OFEHO shit??

Fixed-to-Floating Rate
Non-Cumulative
Perpetual Preferred Stock

Freddie Mac's Homepage invest...rred_stock.html

mp,

Why, hamburger and madcow...

SAC Capital again? They were one of the three that were rumored to have manipulated Bear into the dirt.

Besides GS, there was one other. What's GS up to today? Do they have a team over at Lehman or the GSE's going over their books?

Samuel, it is an implicit explicit guarantee. Or something like that.

everything our government says should be interpreted backwards.

So if the note says "no guarantee" that means there is a guarantee.

here is a CONundrum worthy of Greenspan:

feds claim they are trying to prevent a systemic event in the economy by bailing out the financials.
But bailing out the financials means the dollar goes straight into the crapper and resulting inflation becomes a systemic event.

I.e. you can only avoid one systemic failure by substituting it by a worse systemic failure.

BooYaaaaahahahahahaha

stocks up
metals up
bonds down
ag mixed
nrg up

unvcl billy, what sac rumor are you hearing?

Pacific Investment Management, the giant fixed-income asset management company, denied Thursday that it’s pulling trading lines with Lehman Brothers Holdings, a rumor that sent shares of the investment bank to new lows earlier in the day.

“PIMCO continues to trade with Lehman,” Mark Porterfield, a spokesman for the company, said in an email to Dow Jones Newswires.

Really baby, we going short as much as we can!!!

Pump today, dump tomorrow.

Non (non guarantee) = guarantee

Former White House adviser Karl Rove, the man once dubbed "Bush's Brain," didn't show up - despite a congressional subpoena - to a hearing today about allegations of political pressure at Bush's Justice Department.

It turns out, President Bush himself directed Rove to snub the subpoena.

Headline should read: "CNBC Anchor Stoned"

Thank God it's Friday!

Thank God it's a four day weekend!

Thank God the market is closed again!

Lehman !@#$%^&()_)(&^%$#@#$%^&()_)(&%$#@#$%^&()(&$#@!#$%^&()_)(&%$#@#$%^&*
here we go again!

"Hoenig, a former bank supervisor who keeps a pair of binoculars handy to monitor financial institutions in the city's skyscrapers, has been president of the Kansas City Fed since October 1991."

Sounds more like he wants to be able to accurately count the bodies as they plummet to the pavement below.

Pacific Investment Management Co., manager of the world's biggest bond fund, and hedge fund SAC Capital Advisors LLC both said speculation they had backed away from Lehman was unfounded.

Pimco continues to trade with Lehman,'' the company said today in an e-mailed statement. Pimco fund manager Bill Gross said in an interview with CNBC that there'sno question'' about the firm's solvency.

LOL.......... bring out more clowns; PIMCO is just trying to maintain value in LEH and the sahres they have..... Gross is a whore!

Anyone who invested with Legg Mason Inc.'s Bill Miller, the mutual-fund manager famed for beating the Standard & Poor's 500 Index for a record 15 straight years, has been losing money since 2003.

A $10,000 investment in Miller's Legg Mason Value Trust on June 30, 2003, would be worth about $9,800 today, while the same amount placed in an S&P 500 index fund would have climbed to $14,300.

Big contrition display from Mr Faber thursday morning.

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