Countrywide is still a 10:1 to take all in the "Worst Company in America" contest.

Be sure to vote, they're up against Clear Channel in round 2.

I cracked up that while Marriott was saying business was bad in N America and they didn't see a turnaround this year, the construction reports shows they are putting up more Hotels and Commercial Real Estate. Ken Lewis is unable to connect the dots. I would bet his Home Equity portfolio will "suprise" him and have bad loans over 3%.

Personally, I'd like to know what they are smoking in that rarified executive suite at BofA. It's obviously the same stuff the Bush Administration is using. I think it should be available to the masses and then everyone would just go out and spend more.

This has to be the most retarded transaction I've seen and, trust me, I've seen a lot. Clearly a case where no one wants to tell the truth to the boss and get fired.

Mozilo and Co. UNDERREPORTING to cook the books to make sure the merger doesn't blow up.

If anyone outthere can verify, please step forward. The fraud's gotta stop.

Texas Ratio for Countrywide Bank, FSB, was ~45% (as of 3/31).

I'd call that troublesome.

I'm guessing by compelling he means more white collar criminal enterprise compelled by taxpayer funds for the benefit of Ben's banking and Wall Street buddies at the expense of everyone else. Sound about right?

Again, I'm curious as to why the people who played key roles in this debacle even have jobs at this point.

The more you reward socially destructive behavior the more socially destructive behavior you get until you reach the point where your society is destroyed.

It's pretty simple actually.

After the performance of the financials over the past decade, I see no reason to trust anything they say.

Further, financials won't lend to each other. If finacials don't trust each other, why should they have the trust of anyone?

Absent the fed, we likely would have had a banking melt down.

ANd don't forget, the derivatives time bomb is still ticking. Q3 my A%@^#@&#@.

BTW I guess Ken Lewis at some point was pleading with Wall Street to cool it a bit. So maybe he's somebody who's credible enough to take over some of the more patently destructive operations.

Gotta give credit where credit is due.

Countrywide Foreclosures (REO) Blog

countrywide REO's have dropped 33% this year while California foreclosures are up over 100% YTD.

Compelling. Like 'deer caught in the headlights' compelling?

Hopefully Lewis will be "compelled" to testify when this whole thing takes down BofA.

AC,

Ken Lewis is a ding bat. The CFC deal is all the proof I need of his stewardship. Also, within the past year, BAC requested and received regulatory forbearance in lending to their own investment arm.

BTW, BAC has called me two times in the last three months looking to lend me money. I told them I have no interest in borrowing at this time and expressed my concern over the CFC deal. Apparently, a lot of others also expressed concern at the CFC deal.

The heat is on.

Compelling. Like 'deer caught in the headlights' compelling?

Why do I keep thinking about the movie The Exorcist?

The power of Ben compels you...

Maybe it was more about BofA getting a vehicle to stuff their bad mortgages?

Hmmm...maybe compelling like the swiss in the trap is compelling to the mouse.

I did look at their REO charts and it's hard to tell about the overall since many areas seem to have hit a peak and are now in a trough, and others are rising (NV,TX, AZ heading down, while CA seems to also be in decline). Maybe this makes some sort of sense if their loans were so bad they hit non-payment earlier in the cycle than other ones? I find it hard to believe that they'd under-report and open themselves up to fraud charges given the due dilligence going on and the consequences to their officers. But perhaps their hubris knows no bounds in the C suite there.

Ken Lewis is a ding bat. The CFC deal is all the proof I need of his stewardship. Also, within the past year, BAC requested and received regulatory forbearance in lending to their own investment arm.

If he would do it without some kind of government guarantee, then yes.

Still, IMO he should get some credit for speaking up earlier in 2007 IIRC.

If there is some kind of taxpayer bailout of the CFC portfolio without shareholder equity being reduced to zero, then we have outright theft IMO.

Likewise if taxpayer funds are used for anything but protecting a new owner of CFCs toxic waste from losses occurred by carrying them.

Lewis clearly has a get out of trouble free card in his pocket courtesy of the taxpayers via the Fed.

CR says; "So problem loans will "spike" in the second quarter, and then level off. Let me be the first to predict Q3 will "surprise" and be worse than Q2! "

Sorry CR but the dribbling of bad news until meaningless was perfected by the Clinton Administration for all their troubles.

I do notice a change in tone. "Likely to peak" versu "will peak" and other CYA mush mouthing. Take Lewis saying "we haven't seen many cracks in the commercial real estate portfolio." He sees cracks but not many. Took one each for the Titanic and Challenger and Columbia.

BAC is helping the Fed keep their dirty secrets...Ken's hubris is well placed.

ipodius you're right.

CA REO is not in decline.

http://bubbletracking.blogspot.com/2006/12/tracking-foreclosures-and-pre.html

it's in freefall.

AC,

I'm not going to play the "it's all relative" investment game. Maybe BAC has performed relatively better than WM, WB or C, but they've still done poorly for their investors.

Right now banks are so opaque any investment is just a guess. Derivatives, level 3 assets, new fed lending facilities, etc.

I'm still a bear on financials.

Normally, if this was just a case of one bankster ripping off another bankster, I wouldn't be concerned.

However, there's the probable chance of a government backstop that's not being discussed publicly.

I think soon, we will be "compelled" to turn over more tax dollars for the benefit of these shysters.

In Virginia Beach Va (app pop count 500k ) Countrywide has 3 REO. Are you kidding me?Everyone I know has a Countrywide mortage here .I have 5 loans with them alone .

x-man that's Coutrywides REO book, not CAs. Although I do find it suspicious, it could be true that their book is starting to decline if it was so bad they blew up early.

But the number of CA loans going to REO is different from the number of CW's loans going that way.

That website just tracks the REO CFC chooses to list on its website.. it is not a comprehensive list. I bet once the Countrywide Foreclosure blog got attention on places like CNBC then CFC just started leaving listings showing for less time.

I was solicited by BoA when I went in recently to pay the car loan. I told the teller that I didn't want to open any other accounts/business with them because I was worried that they were insolvent. The poor kid needed me to tell him what insolvent means.

I'd always felt, but never seen any hard evidence, that BAC was "asked" to step in and buy CFC.

But Lewis' actions last week of buying an additional $2b in China Construction Bank seemed deranged, when he's gonna need to raise capital himself soon.

The simplest theory is that Lewis is an idiot.

That website just tracks the REO CFC chooses to list on its website.. it is not a comprehensive list.

What website?

I told the teller that I didn't want to open any other accounts/business with them because I was worried that they were insolvent. The poor kid needed me to tell him what insolvent means.

Insolvent means it dissolves in alcohol right?

zackattack, that stunned me as well. My only thought is that he's on a personal competition kick with Jamie over at JPM and it's leading him to make terrible decisions.

When you want to know who has the biggest d*ick, all you have to do is whip them out, not spend 2b to find out Wink

For the test takers:

CFC is to BofA is to Ken Lewis as

Golden West is to Wachovia is to....

So CR did BA raise their loss estimates from 2.5% to 6% or 8%

Where's sebastian today? I wonder if he went ahead and bought that house he was talking about.

Regarding that last line, "I've heard a rumor that Countrywide has simply stopped foreclosing on loans, and some analysts think they might be under reporting their delinquencies." Maybe this is intentional fraud, but to me it sounds like a company in extremis. I can see a huge back office , half the cubes empty and the other half inhabited by extremely overworked, worried and pissed off office drones. The managers are all closeted in daylong meetings and reappear at closing time with clear signs of shell shock on their faces. My guess is that Countrywide is imploding and there will be little left for BOA to pick up in the end. And I think and hope that Lewis high-tails it out of Charlotte right behind Thompson.

Oh yeah CR I know of a few people who are just waiting to get foreclosed on (made no payments for months, no utilities) but mortgage bank doesn't seem to have the staff as the correspondence has been intermittent. I am not sure if the motive for CFC is to be deceive or if they are just overwhelmed.

I have 20k in BofA checking account and it's not FDIC insured, what will happen to my money if BofA becomes bankrupt? There is no way I can lose that money...right?

I've forgotten details, but wasn't there a BofA filing in which they said they PROBABLY would assume responsibility for Countrywide's debt? Any further developments related to that?

PS So far today haloscan on good behavior?

Cal is right on the website. My understanding is that all the major servicers are using more bulk auctions to investors to "move" REO inventory. I don't know how much of this inventory is out there and how much is actually "moving". I am pretty sure that it does not get counted in the same way as inventory on the MLS that has been listed with a realtor. I am sure that workouts, short sales, etc. are a factor but the largest impact is the bulk approach to REO sales IMO.

I am not sure if the motive for CFC is to be deceive or if they are just overwhelmed.
Tim | 06.02.08 - 5:35 pm | #

Maybe both? Two birds, one stone?

CFC had 2 centers in PHX(Tempe, Chandler) that are empty, I'm guessing they cut back so hard on ops to save cash, that part of the servicing side got whacked too.

Incompetence, or crazy like a fox?

Does Countrywide use proprietary software? Does anyone know if their IT dept is posting in droves on Monster.com?

I worked for an early online company where one person had the title and perks of a director. Why? He was the only one who knew how a vital piece of software worked and how to keep it working.

I will tell you this, in 2006 Bank of America was making RIDICULOUS commercial mortgages, ridiculous.

It is going to come back to haunt them...

(I'm the guy who said that Golden West was going to make the Money Store look like a good investment.)

"Let me be the first to predict Q3 will "surprise" and be worse than Q2! "

Welcome, CR. This is the dark side.

Compelling is a euphemism for 'we must, our counterparty risk will explode if we don't; systemic risk ala BSC/JPM will unfold and we'll end up the scapegoat.........therefore, it is compelling.

If BofA goes under and you have money in your account above the FDIC limits, you lose it. It's a good time to make sure your accounts are under the FDIC limits.

My understanding is that if BAC buys CW, they must assume their debts along with their assets; there's no legal way to invalidate the debts incurred by the company you are purchasing (which is what not assuming them would be). On the other hand, CW could probably sell their performing assets for BAC money/shares and then declare bankruptcy, but that assumes their loans allow such as obvious end-around of the asset-basis for the loans. Without knowing their specifics (and probably being a lawyer with a financial specialty), I couldn't say if it would be possible.

Bennet Sedacca has a very bearish discussion of what we might expect in phase 2 of the credit crisis:

-Minyanville

A chart that only conjure could love:

http://image.minyanville.com/assets/FCK_Aug2007/File/Christy2/be3.jpg

That's a mighty long engagement between BAC and CFC, isn't it? What's holding up the marriage?

A rhetorical question.

I would not pay too much attention to Lewis' public platitudes -- he won't be around a year from now. There's a lot going on behind the scenes, and I would guess the chances of this deal ever being done are less than 50/50 unless BAC gets a balance sheet deal similar to or even better than the one JPM got to take over BSC. Also BAC will have to be indemnified against all the follow-on legal problems CFC will bring. All of that is asking a lot, even from Bernanke.

This seems to me more or less like the Fed's auction facilities, i.e. designed to string the problem out long enough so that a kind of news fatigue sets in and when the inevitable happens -- in this case, BAC backs out of the deal and CFC goes bankrupt -- it won't be such a big deal anymore, at least in terms of the impact on the equity markets, which is a primary concern of Bernanke et al (recall the January rate cut).

"I have 20k in BofA checking account and it's not FDIC insured, what will happen to my money if BofA becomes bankrupt? There is no way I can lose that money...right?"

Dude...move your money into a high yield checking account now!

(For example, I have two ~23K checking accounts that earn 5.1% https://www.rivermarkcu.org/savings_checking/rewards_checking.html )

Wouldn't it be just priceless if the FDIC moved in and shut down Countrywide before the deal could close? They did change their charter to be classified as a thrift, so they must fall under FDIC jurisdiction.

Of course with Sheila Bair running the show, I'm just dreaming.

CW is still the lender of last resort and is hustling loans big time. They must be selling this paper to someone and using the origination income to pump the bottom line. Why would BAC want anything at all to do with this road kill?

Because Paulson and Bernanke walked up to Lewis, with a shotgun in one hand and a poop sandwich in another, and said, "hey punk, eat this and act like you enjoy it!"

Now that is a vivid description!

You all are missing the biggest piece of the puzzle. BOA has to take CFC because they have too much exposure to credit default swaps against the bankruptcy of Countrywide. This is why this buy-out must go through. BOA is just trying to hold out till the last minute to see if they can get a chunk of change from the Fed too.

It was more or less a bet that they would lose less by buying CFC than they would through CDS if they let CFC go under.

Even more frightening. What a bottomless pit!

All the way up to $5.32! Woooo! I so should have shorted them back in October....

I am not sure if the motive for CFC is to be deceive or if they are just overwhelmed.

It's clearly planned. These guys are playing the game in DC...the bailout that's moving through Congress is going to let them shift $300 billion in loans to the FHA. To qualify the properties can't be in foreclosure though.

The REO numbers are going down because the REA's aren't selling the inventory fast enough, so it's going to auction. The volume has gotten so big they're selling it wholesale instead of through the agents. The problem with auction is that nobody hits the reserve and buyers have figured out that half the bidders are working for the seller.

bofa spent 2 billion on china bank as they bought at a 60% dicount by excercising option despite a lockup until 2011. So unles syou think the chinese equity market is going down 60% then not totally stupid. They can exercise the sale of exisitng stake beginning in October or so.

What's the problem? Fed will take the losses while BoA takes the servicing portfolio. 90% of Americans wouldn't understand it if you explained it to them.

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Too bad Kenny boy can't speak his mind or we'd surely get the real story.

I've seen mergers go off much quicker than this one.....

even money it does not without another backstop..

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CFC had 2 centers in PHX(Tempe, Chandler) that are empty, I'm guessing they cut back so hard on ops to save cash, that part of the servicing side got whacked too.

Incompetence, or crazy like a fox?

That's big shrinkage on the origination side, and a bit on servicing side. All the servicers got moved to the big corporate corporate campus in Chandler once the money makers in origination got the chop. Want to sublet some office space cheap?

Friend in Wyoming who's brother defaulted on his rental finally got the 30 days notice this month. It only took 20 months of non-payment. They tried to work out, and my friend even wanted to see if I could help refinance him out of it last January as we (most everyone on CR) were all waiting for the end times to come... LOL!

So they will kick you out eventually, but he's saved more than a year of rent to help him move.

re. the (low) number of Countrywide REOs:

Remember about a year ago when the numbers of REOs they had recorded on their site suddenly jumped fantastically one morning? Like ten times the amount it had been? It stayed that way for about an hour and then suddenly all the "mystery REOs" disappeared.

Nobody knew what to attribute it to at the time. Lying about/hiding the true numbers on their part was a distinct possibilty.

No really...they really might just be... lying!

Aaaaargh....can I tell you how insanely pi$$ed I get when I hear stories like that , joeblo?

This country is freaking doomed. TWENTY MONTHS while the rest of us pay rent/mortgages.

"Deal looks Compelling"

I wonder how much money Ben Bernanke offered them to make the deal go through. You know, your tax dollars to fund their companies.

Perhaps the "major lender" referenced in
Calculated Risk: More Weird Numbers
is Countrywide?

Whether it is their back office in turmoil, which seems plausible, or some cabal of upper management choreographing their problem loan inventory reporting to coordinate with the facade needed to push the BoA acquisition through, there would be some urgency in "going to the confessional" with the MICA companies, because material delays in reporting delinquencies would constitute a breach of the insured's obligation under their mortgage insurance policy, and could result in significant "hair cuts" on claim settlements.

Hillarious.

central_scrutinizer writes:
Because Paulson and Bernanke walked up to Lewis, with a shotgun in one hand and a poop sandwich in another, and said, "hey punk, eat this and act like you enjoy it!"

Countrywide now has a full overhaul underway of their loans. They have a modification department that is sending out mass letters to borrowers who have variable/adjustable rate loans/delinquent loans, usually placing the arrears on the mortgage back into the principle amount, lowering adjustable rates back down to their original note rate or possibly lower for the life of the loan. Seems like too little too late to me.

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