When do the rest of them join these guys. It is going to be like ratings downgrades.

Public stoning is scheduled on Monday in front of Federal Hall.

Investigators allege that the two fund managers misled investors. They painted a rosy picture about the future of two of their funds, while internally worrying about their prospects because of exposure to mortgage-backed securities.

If this is securities fraud, then there's quite a few fraudsters out there.

Heh...finally! Someone goes to jail for this mess.

Why do these deregulation experiments always seem to turn out this way?

What about the oil futures markets? Will they be 'frog-marching' out execs ala Enron when the lights get turned back on in those 'dark markets'?

Cockroaches...

Another test of 12,000 before the day is done? Only have 8 minutes.

Something about Karl Rove, a dull butter knife, and a burning building.

They painted a rosy picture about the future of two of their funds...

This is fraud? I thought that was the definition of 'sales'?

...to be followed by hookers scandal the following week.

Bob Toll and Angelo Mozillo should be next.

Sonic Seuss writes:
Another test of 12,000 before the day is done? Only have 8 minutes.


Would be surprised if it doesn't hold.

Loved those perp walks during the Enron/Worldcom blow-ups. But also felt they were mainly for show... demonstrating how "tough" the Bush admin was on white collar crime. We all know how that worked out.

Think we'll be seeing more perp walks before the election...

OK, so the perps are finally walking. Let the rally in financials commence!

Indictment ain't going to cut it we need public hangings and lynch mobs. The trail of corruption and fraud runs from DC to Wall Street.

You can just hear CNBC in a few months: "Perp walks, fake suicides, real suicides... the bottom is in!"

Indictment ain't going to cut it we need public hangings and lynch mobs. The trail of corruption and fraud runs from DC to Wall Street.

Sort of like the Chinese execution of the drug commissioner that was found guilty of accepting bribes.

Doesn't the president get to pardon people just before he leaves office ?

Seems I remember something about that from 8 years ago..

Hmmmm. Here I thought running a hedge fund was all fun and games and Maserati's.

Scientists find bugs that eat waste and excrete petrol

Scientists find bugs that eat waste and excrete petrol - Times Online

Yippee?

More details on Bloomberg. In fact, we heard about this pair in connection with a lawsuit filed by Barclay's Bank against Bear six months ago.

OT - There's so much complacency and bullish sentiment out there it's just making me smile ear to ear.

he won 5 of 7 injured? the tour players should send their best wishes 'Get better REAL SOON, ya here!"

WSJ Monday had some details of the case. From that article, it didn't seem like the Fed had a strong case.

The managers talked up the fund to the customer while they expressed doubts among themselves. They said they had plenty cash while they actually didn't. One manager withdrew 2 mil of his own money from (out of total 6 mil invested in the fund) the riskier fund. They refused redemptions to some investors while margin calls came in.

Their behaviors are not so different from what is considered a "norm" in the industry.

Didn't Martha Stewart go to prison based on some fairly thin evidence? Based on activity that was considered "the norm"?

here being spelled hear, of course

My guess is Bush will pardon Hank Paulson.

For those of you who understand fractional reserve banking and fiat currency, I have a question.
When a bank "takes a writedown" on unpaid mortgage principal, what difference does it make? It was just created out of thin air money in the first place and the liability is removed from their balance sheet when they take the writedown. Zeroed up and the bank loses nothing.

Bernanke is equally guilty of misleading investors:
"At issue is whether the Federal Reserve intentionally misled investors by presenting a rosy picture of the economy at a time when they were privately communicating with colleagues about their worries over how the investment vehicles would ride out weakness in the mortgage market...."

I notice there is not a tag for this post. "Confessional" wouldn't quite do.

Any suggestions?

"Frog marching?"

Fed's Bear Stearns Books Look Prime for Cooking: Jonathan Weil

Fed's Bear Stearns Books Look Prime for Cooking: Jonathan Weil - Bloomberg.com

June 18 (Bloomberg) -- The Federal Reserve is just days away from completing the financing for its bailout of Bear Stearns Cos., after which the central bank will have another big decision to make: how to account for it.

To awgee:

The money isn't created out of thin air; at some point the bank gave money to the borrower to buy something (who gave it to the seller). It's net zero while the loan is on the books at full value, because it (the loan) is an asset to the bank to offset the money they gave out (the liability). At the point they write down the principle, they are realizing a loss on the investment (like when people sell stock for below what they bought it for).

It doesn't necessarily impact the bank's business immediately (because it is on paper, as you said), but it will impact them when they go to borrow more money to lend to people, and/or disclose their financial situation to the relevant oversight authorities. If you have less assets on paper than deposits as a bank, that's bad (which is why it's vitally important for banks to keep their MBS's as level 3 assets, where they don't have to acknowledge the decrease in value).

Hope that helps (and is accurate).

OT: Wamu locks the barn door:

WaMu will discontinue all negative amortizing loan product options, and will also cease to offer its WaMu Mortgage Plus™ loan product.

Expired

Gosh, just in time Yalt. The horse poop was sprouting legs and getting set to follow its creators out at any minute.

How far up the chain do you suppose they'll go?

"The managers talked up the fund to the customer while they expressed doubts among themselves. They said they had plenty cash while they actually didn't."


Unlike the buy-and-bail strategy discussed previously, this representation to investors is textbook fraud. Textbook.

Suddenly, the Chicago song "Only the Beginning" has appeared in my head.

"Hey, Matt, want to hang out at the Hamptons this summer?"

"Nope, not this summer. I have to go to prison."

"That's a crock. There is risk in investing. You cannot read the future. You are be made an example even though the blame lies with the greedy mortgage brokers."

"Tell me about, man. Anyway, I'll ask my wife and kids if they want to go. Afterall, we do still have all that cash in the Swiss account..."

They said they had plenty cash while they actually didn't....

Their behaviors are not so different from what is considered a "norm" in the industry.

As a defense in a criminal case that's pretty weak. As an indictment of an entire industry, well....

Will Bernanke bail them out, too?

My suggestion for a category: perpwalk.

OT:

Hank Paulson is on the tape, says "...weak dollar is not pushing energy prices higher." Says, "economy's strength to reflect in dollar's value."

Not good, folks. Watch the dollar and oil go higher now, stocks head lower.

Some mucky-muck politico said pretty much the same thing the weekend before the Crash of 1987. Said the Reagan administration wouldn't defend the dollar against the DMark.

Vega said: "Hank Paulson is on the tape, says "...weak dollar is not pushing energy prices higher.""

I really, really want some of his drugs.

Terry,
I think he is really Johnny Depp playing Hunter S. Thompson playing Hank Paulson.

RayOnTheFarm writes:
Doesn't the president get to pardon people just before he leaves office ?

Seems I remember something about that from 8 years ago..
RayOnTheFarm | 06.18.08 - 4:08 pm | #


Well, he already commuted Scooter's sentence for outing a CIA agent, so pardoning pig men doesn't seem to be that much of a stretch. However, he never did pardon Ken Lay, so who knows.

If someone would just acquire Bear, maybe it could all go away like this....

US Rep Frank: Hopefully There Will Be No Countrywide Soon

CNNMoney.com: 404 Page Not Found

WASHINGTON -(Dow Jones)- House Financial Services Chairman Barney Frank said Wednesday he doesn't plan to have oversight hearings over favorable loans offered by Countrywide Financial Corp. (CFC) to at least two U.S. lawmakers because the firm is being acquired.

"The best thing for all of us is for Countrywide to just disappear," Frank told reporters, noting that the firm's acquisition by Bank of America (BAC) is expected to close in the near future.

"If Countrywide were a continuing entity we'd have to look at it, but they're going out of business," he added.

Oh, wait a minute, what am I forgetting....

Ken Lay was found guilty but kicked the bucket before he did any time. Therefore his conviction was vacated. Bush was at his funeral and made a moving speech about what a great man Lay was and how he was made a scapegoat.

"Well, he already commuted Scooter's sentence for outing a CIA agent..."

Richard Armitage outed a CIA agent. Scooter committed perjury when asked about it. Just like someone else who committed perjury a few years ago...

"Richard Armitage outed a CIA agent. Scooter committed perjury when asked about it. Just like someone else who committed perjury a few years ago..."

I take it you mean bush and cheney when they scared the American people into a war that resulted in deaths by the hundred of thousands, debt by the billions and oil to the sky.

Good point.

One committed perjury about a private matter.

The other committed perjury over TREASON!

Minor difference, of course.

And btw, not only a CIA agent was outed, but the front company she ostensibly worked for and for which it's other employees worked and her network and the network of every other agent that worked there! The only reason there haven't been treason trials is that the traitors are running the country - and no damage assessment has been made public.

They are the spiritual brothers, of course, of the traitors who screamed "Wag the Dog" when Clinton went after Bin Ladin - claiming that he was merely trying to distract attention from the oh-so-important bj.

The only "perp walk" I want to see is into the cell. SLAM!

Troy writes:
Public stoning is scheduled on Monday in front of Federal Hall.

I vote for a public de-stoning.

Bear Stearns clearly wanted an amicable departure. Often when firms are under investigation they look to scapegoat others. In this instance, Bear Stearns has a strong interest in keeping Cioffi "on-the-reservation" given the firm's exposure to allegations of fraud in criminal and civil proceedings. The firm stands to benefit so long as their interest and Cioffi's are aligned. Therefore Bear Stearns doesn't have any incentive to include "negative" disclosures which could shed light into how the hedge funds collapsed.

Scientists find bugs that eat waste and excrete petrol

Put a bacterium in your tank!

How about this for a category name:

White Collared

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