This is the same greedy %%$# that was hyping and pumping back in 2005 at the peak while dumping huge stock options.
Hope this turd goes under along with the realwhores.
There is a crisis looming in the world's commodity markets, but it is has nothing to do with high prices, food shortages or the "peak oil hypothesis."
It has everything to do with the flood of capital into new financial instruments tied to commodity prices.
The ongoing debate as to whether this new "investment" demand has caused a price bubble is misdirected. We should be paying attention to the economic damage being done by these new instruments, which are creating a level and type of volume for which the futures exchanges are ill-suited. In our search for strong and uncorrelated returns, the investment industry is undermining a commodity production and distribution system that has served well for over 100 years...
This is the first commodity bull market, however, where individuals and institutions have participated, not as "speculators" but as "investors," treating commodities as an asset class.
The explosion of commodity swaps, structured products, exchange traded funds, and mutual funds has opened the door for a broad spectrum of investors into the sector...
Speculators have been tolerated to the degree that they add economic value through liquidity, but not to the point that they can manipulate prices. Nowhere is there room for the type of long-term investment capital that marks today's environment. In practice, the problem is that the investment capital is too large relative to the size of the underlying commodity markets...
So much hot bubble action today:
June crude closes at $125.80/brl, up $1.57, or 1.3%
June heating oil up 3.9% to close at a record $3.70/gal
ac
You did notice the divergence with the AGs and PMs far off their highs? This is intermarket bearish divergence big time. Just ask the gold bugs how life is since mid -March.
O-Joe
You did notice the divergence with the AGs and PMs far off their highs? This is intermarket bearish divergence big time. Just ask the gold bugs how life is since mid -March.
O-Joe
No, seriously guys, really this is the end of the bad news. I mean I'm serious this time. Seriously, you people need to go buy something. A house, a car, something. Seriously.
Speculators have been tolerated to the degree that they add economic value through liquidity, but not to the point that they can manipulate prices. Nowhere is there room for the type of long-term investment capital that marks today's environment. In practice, the problem is that the investment capital is too large relative to the size of the underlying commodity markets...
ac
You hear things like this each time the K-cycle turns around. And every time people are stunned and shocked how demand outstrips supply all of a sudden leading to higher prices. Then all this speculator blablabla comes up. Past ~2036 when the opposite will happen again, people will be dumbfounded how there is too much stuff around and how prices go down.
O-Joe
MBI MBIA Inc: Moody's says worsening second lien RMBS could impact financial guarantor ratings (9.57 -0.27) -Update-
Moody's highlights the persistent poor performance and continued downward rating migration among 2005-2007 vintage second lien mortgage securities. Moody's notes that financial guarantors have significant exposure to second lien RMBS, primarily through guaranties on direct RMBS transactions, and to a lesser extent, through exposure to ABS CDOs, where second lien RMBS securities typically constitute less than 5% of collateral within such CDOs. Moody's loss expectations for this asset class are higher than previously anticipated, owing to worse-than-expected performance trends. This could have material implications for the estimated capital adequacy of financial guarantors most exposed to this risk. In recent announcements of first-quarter 2008 earnings, MBIA (MBI) and Ambac (ABK) both reported material credit impairment losses on ABS CDOs and loss reserve charges on direct RMBS exposures, including second lien securitizations. Moody's said that incurred losses within both firms' direct RMBS and ABS CDO portfolios are now meaningfully higher than the rating agency's prior expected-case loss estimates, elevating existing concerns about capitalization levels relative to the Aaa benchmark. Moody's intends, in the short term, to assess whether worsening performance in this sector is likely to be material for exposed financial guarantors, and will update the market as appropriate.
All wars are inflationary. Take a world reserve fiat currency, borrow 2 trillion, dump it in a fractional reserve banking system with less the 10% reserve requirements which then floods a global banking system and you have the recipe for an inflationary cluster f#ck which has been creating bubbles out the wazoo.
Back to Toll. Who, but a fool, would buy with such DEFLATIONARY EXPECTATIONS? Staying a hotel would cost less than you would lose per month on a new Toll house. But, of course, you wouldn't get the wonderful tax deduction. I just hope y'all had a close in seat and no SUV when the music stopped.
ojoe does ask a good question, why are homebuilders still walking on water? With their current and coming losses/bk SRS should be 150+...
for that matter, why is skf doing so badly? banks keep writing down losses, more news every day.
But, bear market tallies can go on as long as six months, happened once during dotcom crash. Just have to be patient...
"Toll said home sellers seem to be more worried about whether they can sell their homes than about declining prices"
That comment doesn't quite make sense. If a seller is more concerned about selling their home than the price they should keep lowering the price until it sells. No takers at $600,000? Try $500,000. If that doesn't work, I'll bet $400,000 would find some takers.
The home market is 'paying' buyers as much as $6000 a month to stay out. (And 1/5th of that 6 grand is part of the newly discovered financial scheme of 20% downpayments. In other words, people are saving faster than they otherwise could manage.)
What ought to be happening is making it as liquid as possible -- chiefly by forcing uniform listings that include all those hidden REO's, short sales, and dead builders inventories. Then let the buyers set the price.
Heard throughout the land: "Waaaa! I was stupid"
Affordability returns. Banks resume lending. Life goes on.
Meanwhile, evil Barney Frank seeks to delay/deny affordable houses.... (think villain with top hat and waxed mustache. Or is that Grassley?)
Don't worry everything is contained.
--
You ain't seen nothin yet, Mr. Troll.
Jas
This sounds like a bottom to me.
Bob Toll's Housing Market Report Card:
MA: D-
NY BURBS: B+
URBAN NJ: B
MICH: F
MINN: F-
POCONOS: F-
VA: C+
NC, RALEIGH: C-
CT: B+
BROOKLYN: F
NJ: C
ILL: F-
PHILLY: C-
DEL: D
WASH DC: B+
WV: B-
CHARLOTTE: F-
HILTON HEAD: F-
FLA CENTRAL: F+
FLA NORTH: F
FLA WEST: A- (NAPLES)
DALLAS: C+
N CAL: D-
VEGAS: F-- ("Put your money on double zero.")
RENO: F-
COLORADO: F
ATL: F-
FLA EAST: F-
TAMPA: F--
AUSTIN: F
SAN ANTONIO: F
PALM SPRINGS: D+
AZ: F
Will Toll keep on sponsoring the Met Opera?
Check out the surge in the 10-year over the past few weeks. That ain't gonna help much with those fixed rate mortgages.
It'd be interesting if image was an imagemap where clicking on it would lead to the AP/Reuters articles involved.
Otherwise, it's a pain to find the stories.
I could swear I read the same thing 6 months ago.
Mel said: "Will Toll keep on sponsoring the Met Opera?"
Maybe Exxon-Mobil will pick it back up. Their cash flow is a little better.
I don't know what he's talking about the 805 South was gridlocked yesterday!
My wife use to swear there was not traffic in SoCal, she just never left the house during rush hour....
Maybe Bobs not on the road a the right time....
This is the same greedy %%$# that was hyping and pumping back in 2005 at the peak while dumping huge stock options.
Hope this turd goes under along with the realwhores.
So much hot bubble action today:
June crude closes at $125.80/brl, up $1.57, or 1.3%
June heating oil up 3.9% to close at a record $3.70/gal
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Mr. Troll is going to be on Cramer's show after the market closes if you want to hear what he has to say.
SS
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: )
Check out the surge in the 10-year over the past few weeks. That ain't gonna help much with those fixed rate mortgages.
ac
Also shows there is more demand for money/credit and the flight to safety is over.
O-Joe
You ain't seen nothin yet, Mr. Troll.
Jas
Jas Jain
How are the homebuilder puts doing, Jas?
O-Joe
There is a crisis looming in the world's commodity markets, but it is has nothing to do with high prices, food shortages or the "peak oil hypothesis."
It has everything to do with the flood of capital into new financial instruments tied to commodity prices.
The ongoing debate as to whether this new "investment" demand has caused a price bubble is misdirected. We should be paying attention to the economic damage being done by these new instruments, which are creating a level and type of volume for which the futures exchanges are ill-suited. In our search for strong and uncorrelated returns, the investment industry is undermining a commodity production and distribution system that has served well for over 100 years...
This is the first commodity bull market, however, where individuals and institutions have participated, not as "speculators" but as "investors," treating commodities as an asset class.
The explosion of commodity swaps, structured products, exchange traded funds, and mutual funds has opened the door for a broad spectrum of investors into the sector...
Speculators have been tolerated to the degree that they add economic value through liquidity, but not to the point that they can manipulate prices. Nowhere is there room for the type of long-term investment capital that marks today's environment. In practice, the problem is that the investment capital is too large relative to the size of the underlying commodity markets...
The looming commodity crisis
So much hot bubble action today:
June crude closes at $125.80/brl, up $1.57, or 1.3%
June heating oil up 3.9% to close at a record $3.70/gal
ac
You did notice the divergence with the AGs and PMs far off their highs? This is intermarket bearish divergence big time. Just ask the gold bugs how life is since mid -March.
O-Joe
You did notice the divergence with the AGs and PMs far off their highs? This is intermarket bearish divergence big time. Just ask the gold bugs how life is since mid -March.
O-Joe
Yeah, I remind them occasionally about life. =)
Finally, an MSM columnist gets it right.
No, seriously guys, really this is the end of the bad news. I mean I'm serious this time. Seriously, you people need to go buy something. A house, a car, something. Seriously.
Now.
Please.
Speculators have been tolerated to the degree that they add economic value through liquidity, but not to the point that they can manipulate prices. Nowhere is there room for the type of long-term investment capital that marks today's environment. In practice, the problem is that the investment capital is too large relative to the size of the underlying commodity markets...
ac
You hear things like this each time the K-cycle turns around. And every time people are stunned and shocked how demand outstrips supply all of a sudden leading to higher prices. Then all this speculator blablabla comes up. Past ~2036 when the opposite will happen again, people will be dumbfounded how there is too much stuff around and how prices go down.
O-Joe
"2036 when the opposite will happen again, people will be dumbfounded how there is too much stuff around and how prices go down."
The nukes will have flown long before then.
MBI MBIA Inc: Moody's says worsening second lien RMBS could impact financial guarantor ratings (9.57 -0.27) -Update-
Moody's highlights the persistent poor performance and continued downward rating migration among 2005-2007 vintage second lien mortgage securities. Moody's notes that financial guarantors have significant exposure to second lien RMBS, primarily through guaranties on direct RMBS transactions, and to a lesser extent, through exposure to ABS CDOs, where second lien RMBS securities typically constitute less than 5% of collateral within such CDOs. Moody's loss expectations for this asset class are higher than previously anticipated, owing to worse-than-expected performance trends. This could have material implications for the estimated capital adequacy of financial guarantors most exposed to this risk. In recent announcements of first-quarter 2008 earnings, MBIA (MBI) and Ambac (ABK) both reported material credit impairment losses on ABS CDOs and loss reserve charges on direct RMBS exposures, including second lien securitizations. Moody's said that incurred losses within both firms' direct RMBS and ABS CDO portfolios are now meaningfully higher than the rating agency's prior expected-case loss estimates, elevating existing concerns about capitalization levels relative to the Aaa benchmark. Moody's intends, in the short term, to assess whether worsening performance in this sector is likely to be material for exposed financial guarantors, and will update the market as appropriate.
Thanks, Gamma.
I hope a good class action lawsuit wrings every single dollar out -- using disgorgement, too -- of Moody's and S&P, those complicit schmucks.
It is irritating, waiting for the crash.
So with all the good news... time to increase the Fed rates?
Does anybody else get the feeling the markets have been setting themselves up for a major dislocation? Things just to seem way to serene.
I think the trigger will be the 10-year trading through 4%. Could upset a lot of apple carts.
O-Joe
All wars are inflationary. Take a world reserve fiat currency, borrow 2 trillion, dump it in a fractional reserve banking system with less the 10% reserve requirements which then floods a global banking system and you have the recipe for an inflationary cluster f#ck which has been creating bubbles out the wazoo.
a watched boil never pops, or somethin like that
Yes Virginia, there is a next year (but you may want to be a good girl until 2013.)
Back to Toll. Who, but a fool, would buy with such DEFLATIONARY EXPECTATIONS? Staying a hotel would cost less than you would lose per month on a new Toll house. But, of course, you wouldn't get the wonderful tax deduction. I just hope y'all had a close in seat and no SUV when the music stopped.
At least Toll does not mince words. It's not like he's cheerleading.
Fast Eddie, and also dont forget you get breakfest in the hotel
"At least Toll does not mince words. It's not like he's cheerleading."
Outsider
He is trying to get a lenient prison sentence.
"inability to sell existing homes is hurting demand."
Gee, thanks, Bob. How's does this rank to be 'news'?
"How are the homebuilder puts doing, Jas?
O-Joe"
Better Q for you O-Joe. How are those homebuilder profits looking?
ojoe does ask a good question, why are homebuilders still walking on water? With their current and coming losses/bk SRS should be 150+...
for that matter, why is skf doing so badly? banks keep writing down losses, more news every day.
But, bear market tallies can go on as long as six months, happened once during dotcom crash. Just have to be patient...
VEGA!!!!
Where did you get the report card grades?
I need to confirm that F for Brooklyn, people here will go nuts.
Toll traffic worst we've ever seen? Maybe some carpooling in our future.
"Toll said home sellers seem to be more worried about whether they can sell their homes than about declining prices"
That comment doesn't quite make sense. If a seller is more concerned about selling their home than the price they should keep lowering the price until it sells. No takers at $600,000? Try $500,000. If that doesn't work, I'll bet $400,000 would find some takers.
The home market is 'paying' buyers as much as $6000 a month to stay out. (And 1/5th of that 6 grand is part of the newly discovered financial scheme of 20% downpayments. In other words, people are saving faster than they otherwise could manage.)
What ought to be happening is making it as liquid as possible -- chiefly by forcing uniform listings that include all those hidden REO's, short sales, and dead builders inventories. Then let the buyers set the price.
Heard throughout the land: "Waaaa! I was stupid"
Affordability returns. Banks resume lending. Life goes on.
Meanwhile, evil Barney Frank seeks to delay/deny affordable houses.... (think villain with top hat and waxed mustache. Or is that Grassley?)
"At least Toll does not mince words. It's not like he's cheerleading."
Well, he couldn't even get his daughter to close on her FLA condo.
If they can't give them away in the Spring then this thing is getting ugly!
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