Delinquencies for Alt-A mortgages rated between 2005 and 2007 are climbing, with total delinquencies rising as high as 17 percent in some cases, more than 6 percentage points higher than previous estimates, the ratings agency said in a report.
This just makes it all the more imperative that we jump in to protect the people that made these bad loans.
Otherwise they might not be able to make any more.
Fed's Braunstein just on the tapes saying "housing is bad and it's getting worse"
Banker|Homepage|05.22.08-12:25 pm
He should have said this in 2003 when the entire middle class could only afford housing in large areas of the US with unworkable financing.
Housing is now getting better. The financial situation of puchasers from 2003-2007 was baked into the cake at that point, not now.
You are screwed when you jump out of a plane without a chute, not when you hit the ground.
Braunstein is a "she" and she certainly was on record as early as September 2006 regarding bad lending practices. Her testimony to the Senate Banking Committee on September 20, 2007 is the earliest public comment from her on any topic that I have been able to dig up. So on the best evidence I have Braunstein was on the right side of this issue all along.
It seems that merely taking pay in the public sector is enough to get the "why didn't you say so when it mattered?" accusation, even for those who did say so when it mattered.
The Fed was a part of the problem, but it is pretty hard to argue that the Fed under Bernanke was a part of the problem. He continued hiking rates, which should reduce lending excesses, and banks under Fed supervision have reported tightening lending standards through much of his tenure as Fed chairman. Unless you want to argue that Bernanke and company should have stopped hiking earlier, it is hard to see that they are the bad guys in this little horse opera.
I'm hearing the securitization market for credit card receivables has completely dried up in the wake of rapidly increasing default rates. The last functioning frontier of consumer credit is about to join the party and hit the wall.
Fed's Braunstein just on the tapes saying "housing is bad and it's getting worse"
Banker|Homepage|05.22.08-12:25 pm
I would say housing is getting better by the day. More and more people can afford it as the days go by. Also, it is getting better by the day for banks, insurers, builders, and realtors as things come back to more sustainable levels.
It is always good to get back to stable, sustainable states.
I don't think they're so much "bad" as weak. 2 weeks after one FOMC indicating they had no intention of cutting they cut 75 bps?? I do feel for Bernanke having to deal with Greenspan second guessing his every move, though. I think Bernanke would make a nice Dean of a business school.
I'll retract the comment about Braunstien and replace "he" with "she". 9/2006 was about 500 feet off the ground in my analogy.
Thanks for the details.
"I'm hearing the securitization market for credit card receivables has completely dried up in the wake of rapidly increasing default rates. The last functioning frontier of consumer credit is about to join the party and hit the wall."
If that's not the end of the world as we know it -- or at least the beginning of it -- I don't know what is.
The Fed was a part of the problem, but it is pretty hard to argue that the Fed under Bernanke was a part of the problem. He continued hiking rates, which should reduce lending excesses, and banks under Fed supervision have reported tightening lending standards through much of his tenure as Fed chairman. Unless you want to argue that Bernanke and company should have stopped hiking earlier, it is hard to see that they are the bad guys in this little horse opera.
It seems to me that they were doing the right thing for a while and suddenly stopped. But perhaps due to political pressures or perhaps due to genuine fear of financial meltdown.
I defended him for a while and I don't think you can't blame the Bernanke Fed for any problems in housing, but looking at the situation a little bit more I have to conclude that like everyone else associated with the Fed, Bernanke deliberately misrepresents the benefits of certain actions for personal gain via the Fed.
There's ample historical evidence that negative real interest rates are financial and economic poison and yet here we are again with negative real interest rates and the the exact same symptoms of disease we seem to get in every case.
I believe that Bernanke's name, like Greenspan's, needs to be forever associated with any disasters that ensue as a result of more speculation and more inflation. If we don't get disasters, then hey maybe he's right and he didn't misrepresent the Federal Reserve's abilities.
"We the market makers, banksters, and fraudsters acknowledge that while this data may be important, we are currently on vacation for the next 2-10 weeks swimming in our pools of money. We will be unable to accurately price this data in until after Labor Day.
ac, hold on their partnur, three trillion yur sayin', hum..how about carbon based CDOs, CDSs, CBLOC. Yes sir, I do bee leave we have a way out of this here mess.
Centerpoint, the 2 tower development has told the city council that tower 2 will now be converted to rental/timeshare while tower 1 will remain condo but only has 13 of 300 units sold, the other 100+ people walked away from their deposits.
The 30 story twin tower complex at Forest & University is scrubbed.
Mosaic, the project @ 5th & college and the 7th& mill projects are looking at seriously slow sales, yet all plan to go forward contingent on financing. IOTW, they're scrubbed.
Wake me when Alt-A delinquencies hit 80% and subprimes hit 100%. Oh, and please let me know when you can buy (FRM + 20% down) the same house as cheaply as you can rent it in any major metro area along either coast.
k harris: "Braunstein is a "she" and she certainly was on record as early as September 2006 regarding bad lending practices. Her testimony to the Senate Banking Committee on September 20, 2007 is the earliest public comment from her on any topic that I have been able to dig up. So on the best evidence I have Braunstein was on the right side of this issue all along. "
Thanks for keeping it accurate in here. I think it's going to be very important going forward.
k harris, Wasn't Bernanke Greenspan's top deputy for years? He had the opportunity to learn from mistakes without taking the rap. Now he is making different mistakes.
I retract my statement about Ben being Alan's deputy at the Fed...thought I read it somewhere and when I started to dig, they would have had on 4 years as Fed governors together to bond...my bad...please forgive me...
Greenspan and Bernankie need to be hung with the same rope, preferably a very rough one.
I say Greenspan and Bernanke should be hung by their sacks in public view so that future Fed Presidents can see what will happen to them if they "f" with rates too much........
Ridiculous! These were not rare products. How can we trust the financial leadership in this country?
to infinity, and beyond!
BULLISH!
Housing will decline more. We are in a bear market in the stock market. I wrote about:
the speculator real estate first at theinvestingspeculator.com
firstist
Furst?
Fed's Braunstein just on the tapes saying "housing is bad and it's getting worse"
Delinquencies for Alt-A mortgages rated between 2005 and 2007 are climbing, with total delinquencies rising as high as 17 percent in some cases, more than 6 percentage points higher than previous estimates, the ratings agency said in a report.
This just makes it all the more imperative that we jump in to protect the people that made these bad loans.
Otherwise they might not be able to make any more.
Underwater people must be swimmng away.
Didn't Paulson say everything was now honky dory?
Speculator writes:
Housing will decline more. We are in a bear market in the stock market. I wrote about:
the speculator real estate first at theinvestingspeculator.com
Thank goodness you showed up here! We had no idea!
Well ... what do you expect when take away their HELOCs; how are they going to make their payments?
I smell a bubble!
Keep thinking up those new scams guys. If people are that dumb the don't really deserve money anyhow:
Value of world carbon market could top $3 trillion by 2020
Good work!
Fed's Braunstein just on the tapes saying "housing is bad and it's getting worse"
Banker|Homepage|05.22.08-12:25 pm
He should have said this in 2003 when the entire middle class could only afford housing in large areas of the US with unworkable financing.
Housing is now getting better. The financial situation of puchasers from 2003-2007 was baked into the cake at that point, not now.
You are screwed when you jump out of a plane without a chute, not when you hit the ground.
Cr, great post, but be careful. You'll be accused of "cherry picking" data again... lol
Braunstein is a "she" and she certainly was on record as early as September 2006 regarding bad lending practices. Her testimony to the Senate Banking Committee on September 20, 2007 is the earliest public comment from her on any topic that I have been able to dig up. So on the best evidence I have Braunstein was on the right side of this issue all along.
It seems that merely taking pay in the public sector is enough to get the "why didn't you say so when it mattered?" accusation, even for those who did say so when it mattered.
The Fed was a part of the problem, but it is pretty hard to argue that the Fed under Bernanke was a part of the problem. He continued hiking rates, which should reduce lending excesses, and banks under Fed supervision have reported tightening lending standards through much of his tenure as Fed chairman. Unless you want to argue that Bernanke and company should have stopped hiking earlier, it is hard to see that they are the bad guys in this little horse opera.
I'm hearing the securitization market for credit card receivables has completely dried up in the wake of rapidly increasing default rates. The last functioning frontier of consumer credit is about to join the party and hit the wall.
Fed's Braunstein just on the tapes saying "housing is bad and it's getting worse"
Banker|Homepage|05.22.08-12:25 pm
I would say housing is getting better by the day. More and more people can afford it as the days go by. Also, it is getting better by the day for banks, insurers, builders, and realtors as things come back to more sustainable levels.
It is always good to get back to stable, sustainable states.
Well ... what do you expect when take away their HELOCs; how are they going to make their payments?
Good point. The government should probably do something about that. The FHA should be allowed to insure HELOCs, at oh, say, 200% LTV or so.
I don't think they're so much "bad" as weak. 2 weeks after one FOMC indicating they had no intention of cutting they cut 75 bps?? I do feel for Bernanke having to deal with Greenspan second guessing his every move, though. I think Bernanke would make a nice Dean of a business school.
I'll retract the comment about Braunstien and replace "he" with "she". 9/2006 was about 500 feet off the ground in my analogy.
Thanks for the details.
"I'm hearing the securitization market for credit card receivables has completely dried up in the wake of rapidly increasing default rates. The last functioning frontier of consumer credit is about to join the party and hit the wall."
If that's not the end of the world as we know it -- or at least the beginning of it -- I don't know what is.
Hello, savings accounts!
The Fed was a part of the problem, but it is pretty hard to argue that the Fed under Bernanke was a part of the problem. He continued hiking rates, which should reduce lending excesses, and banks under Fed supervision have reported tightening lending standards through much of his tenure as Fed chairman. Unless you want to argue that Bernanke and company should have stopped hiking earlier, it is hard to see that they are the bad guys in this little horse opera.
It seems to me that they were doing the right thing for a while and suddenly stopped. But perhaps due to political pressures or perhaps due to genuine fear of financial meltdown.
I defended him for a while and I don't think you can't blame the Bernanke Fed for any problems in housing, but looking at the situation a little bit more I have to conclude that like everyone else associated with the Fed, Bernanke deliberately misrepresents the benefits of certain actions for personal gain via the Fed.
There's ample historical evidence that negative real interest rates are financial and economic poison and yet here we are again with negative real interest rates and the the exact same symptoms of disease we seem to get in every case.
I believe that Bernanke's name, like Greenspan's, needs to be forever associated with any disasters that ensue as a result of more speculation and more inflation. If we don't get disasters, then hey maybe he's right and he didn't misrepresent the Federal Reserve's abilities.
Right now it isn't looking good though.
Oil Declines More Than $2 a Barrel on Signs Rally Unjustified - Bloomberg.com
My-my oil "plummets" more than one WHOLE dollar and the market gets a bit of a stiffy...
reminds me of the bet being paid off in trading places
"one dollar"
I hope you see what is being set up here...
Ciao
MS
Didn't Paulson say everything was now honky dory?
REworld, where nothing can ever go wrong...wrong...wrong...wrong...
Delinquencies are rising,...my, my. I guess that this is a bad thing?
Greenspan and Bernankie need to be hung with the same rope, preferably a very rough one.
12% jump in property tax delinquencies in San Diego county
http://www.voiceofsandiego.com/articles/2008/05/22/survival/523delinquent052108.txt
"We the market makers, banksters, and fraudsters acknowledge that while this data may be important, we are currently on vacation for the next 2-10 weeks swimming in our pools of money. We will be unable to accurately price this data in until after Labor Day.
Sincerely,
TPTB"
This doesn't make sense. Suprime was contained like last year.
ac, hold on their partnur, three trillion yur sayin', hum..how about carbon based CDOs, CDSs, CBLOC. Yes sir, I do bee leave we have a way out of this here mess.
OT
Update on the Tempe condo craze:
Centerpoint, the 2 tower development has told the city council that tower 2 will now be converted to rental/timeshare while tower 1 will remain condo but only has 13 of 300 units sold, the other 100+ people walked away from their deposits.
The 30 story twin tower complex at Forest & University is scrubbed.
Mosaic, the project @ 5th & college and the 7th& mill projects are looking at seriously slow sales, yet all plan to go forward contingent on financing. IOTW, they're scrubbed.
Wake me when Alt-A delinquencies hit 80% and subprimes hit 100%. Oh, and please let me know when you can buy (FRM + 20% down) the same house as cheaply as you can rent it in any major metro area along either coast.
Until then, I'm not catchin' any knives...
S&P upgrades Wachovia, Sovereign and Capital One
You would think the ratings agencies would just lay low right now...
Sometimes I sits and thinks and sometimes I just sits
Satchel Page
Anonymous writes:
Greenspan and Bernankie need to be hung with the same rope, preferably a very rough one.
On a pulley.
Greenspan should be taken out back behind the woodshed...
I'll let you finish the sentence.
OT:
Anyone know what's up with LEH?
"S&P upgrades Wachovia, Sovereign and Capital One
You would think the ratings agencies would just lay low right now..."
What do they have to lose? Their credibility?
HA HA HA...good one.
"Anyone know what's up with LEH?
MarkS"
Insolvency?
Or are you looking for new news.
k harris: "Braunstein is a "she" and she certainly was on record as early as September 2006 regarding bad lending practices. Her testimony to the Senate Banking Committee on September 20, 2007 is the earliest public comment from her on any topic that I have been able to dig up. So on the best evidence I have Braunstein was on the right side of this issue all along. "
Thanks for keeping it accurate in here. I think it's going to be very important going forward.
k harris, Wasn't Bernanke Greenspan's top deputy for years? He had the opportunity to learn from mistakes without taking the rap. Now he is making different mistakes.
k harris,
I retract my statement about Ben being Alan's deputy at the Fed...thought I read it somewhere and when I started to dig, they would have had on 4 years as Fed governors together to bond...my bad...please forgive me...
Anonymous wrote:
Greenspan and Bernankie need to be hung with the same rope, preferably a very rough one.
I say Greenspan and Bernanke should be hung by their sacks in public view so that future Fed Presidents can see what will happen to them if they "f" with rates too much........
Well remember 63% of people are still paying their low quality subprime loans. That's more than half, so it must have been a good thing!
There are several things you can do to get the best possible loans but he first thing is to make sure you know your options. Thanks for the info!