Yun is fun.

Its not hard to imagine that the 2nd order effects of the housing downturn are now beginning to kick in (rising commodity prices driven by Fed cuts that have weakened the dollar; rising unemployment as the housing ATM spigot is turned counter-clockwise).

Chain stores:

(ICSC-UBS) Year-on-year same-store sales growth is nearly at a halt, at only +0.3 percent for the slowest pace in five years. The week-on-week change, however, is less frightening at +0.7 percent. ICSC-UBS expects same-store sales for the month of March to come in flat. Chain stores will report their March results on Thursday.

Redbook reports a very weak 0.8 percent year-on-year rise in same-store sales for the April 5 week. Both Redbook and ICSC-UBS are reporting multi-year lows for the sector. Chain stores will post their March results on Thursday and the early indications, Easter or not, are poor. Monthly retail trade data will follow the next week.

How can someone like Lawrence Yun sleep at night? What he is saying has no basis in reality. I hope he is getting paid really well to sell his soul.

IMF Says Financial, Economic Losses May Swell to $945 Billion

By Christopher Swann

April 8 (Bloomberg) -- The International Monetary Fund said financial losses stemming from the U.S. mortgage crisis may approach $1 trillion, citing a ``collective failure'' to predict the breadth of the crisis.

Falling U.S. house prices and rising delinquencies may lead to $565 billion in mortgage-market losses, the IMF said in its annual Global Financial Stability report, released today in Washington. Total losses, including the securities tied to commercial real estate and loans to consumers and companies, may reach $945 billion, the fund said.

The forecast signals the worst of the credit crunch may be yet to come, because banks and securities firms so far have posted $232 billion in asset writedowns and credit losses. Policy makers, concerned that lenders' deteriorating balance sheets will hobble economic growth, are pushing companies to raise capital.

The current turmoil is more than simply a liquidity event, reflecting deep-seated balance-sheet fragilities and weak capital bases, which means its effects are likely to be broader, deeper and more protracted,'' the report said. The fund warned of the risk ofa serious funding and confidence crisis that threatens to continue for a significant period.''

Today's report comes days before finance ministers and central bank governors from the IMF's 185 members gather in Washington for spring meetings of the fund and World Bank. Group of Seven policy makers meet April 11.

Casting Blame

The fund, which predicted a year ago that any ripple effects from a subprime mortgage crisis would be limited, blamed lax regulations and a lack of understanding about the risks in structured financial products for the crisis.

Today's estimate exceeds those by other economists, including analysts at UBS AG, who projected in February that financial firms may lose $600 billion.

While financial innovations have brought some benefits, the events of the past eight months have also shown that there are costs,'' the IMF said. At the same time, the fund urged governments against a rush to increase regulation, especially changes thatunduly stifle innovation or that could exacerbate the effects of the current credit squeeze.''

Banks should improve disclosure and take writedowns ``as soon as reasonable estimates of their size can be established,'' the fund said. It also urged stronger supervision of capital adequacy, and said policy makers should prepare for further disruptions, the IMF said.

`Contingency Plans'

``Authorities may wish to prepare contingency plans for dealing with large stocks of impaired assets if writedowns lead to disruptive dynamics and significant negative effects on the real economy,'' the report said.

The fund added that policy makers should ``stand ready to promptly address strains within troubled financial institutions.''

Federal Reserve officials prevented a disorderly failure of Bear Stearns Cos. last month by agreeing to lend against $30 billion of the company's assets, as part of a takeover agreement with JPMorgan Chase & Co.

The fund noted in the report that while risks to financial stability remain elevated'' worldwide, emerging market economieshave been broadly resilient.'' Still, the lender highlighted the risk of faster inflation should the subprime rout cause the dollar's slump to accelerate.

Further downward pressure on the dollar, particularly if it'' comesfrom subprime or similar shocks, could boost liquidity and lead to an intensification of inflationary pressures in some emerging markets,'' the fund said.

Strauss-Kahn

IMF Managing Director Dominique Strauss-Kahn, who took office in November, has conceded that the fund wasn't as vocal as it could have been about the risks that a subprime collapse posed for the global financial system.

In April 2007, the fund said there was little risk of a serious systemic threat.'' It also said thatstress-tests conducted by investment banks show that, even under scenarios of nationwide house price declines that are historically unprecedented, most investors with exposure to subprime mortgages through securitization will not face losses.''

At least 14 banks and securities firms have sought cash from outside investors in the past year.

Since credit markets seized up in the U.S. in August, the Standard & Poor's 500 stock index is down about 7 percent, the trade-weighted dollar index has dropped more than 9 percent and the yield on two-year U.S. Treasury notes has fallen to 1.88 percent. Home prices tracked by S&P Case-Shiller have slumped in every month.

``There was a collective failure to appreciate the extent of leverage taken on by a wide range of institutions -- banks, monoline insurers, government-sponsored entities, hedge funds -- and the associated risks of a disorderly unwinding,'' the IMF concluded in the report.

To contact the reporters on this story: Christopher Swann in Washington

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Joe Klein's conscience | Homepage | 04.08.08 - 10:47 am


Yun is our nation's best economists.

Oy.

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"Existing-home sales are likely to rise from an annual pace of 4.9 million in the first quarter to 5.9 million in the fourth quarter."

He is taking his clue from Evildoer Bernanke, who has been grossly wrong on the economic and housing forecasting for the past 13 months, that economy will contract in H1 and will grow in H2.

Liars and misleaders get most of the top jobs. "American People love to be lied to."! Please, please give me hope.

Jas

Hee hee what is the world comming to a Realestate agent lying?

The usual suspects have their usual solutions to the housing price decline:

...but arguments about extending Bush's tax cuts will be moot as we continue to pass "tax rebate" stimulus bill after "tax rebate" stimulus bill for the next decade as we work off the gross mis-allocation of capital to those multiple million shelters that were built unnecessarily (due to incorrect market signals.)

You know, maybe if people could afford the houses, people would buy them! Hmmm... nah... let's get back to giving out toxic loans to strawberry pickers making $15,000 a year so they can buy the $750,000 house they deserve!

Unreal - the numbers are terrible and are only going to get worse.

Yun is predicting a 20+% increase sales because of what? Do houses trade hands more often during recessions? Or better yet because everyone who didnt have a house before is now buying one.

Absolute comedy...

Lawrence sleeps very well because he knows that confronting reality would be harmful to his employment situation. If he came out and said "Folks, housing is in the crapper and it will take until lat in 2009 at the very earliest for the situation to stabilize" he'd be boxing up his office stuff before the end of the day. The upside of that is that the NAR could then hire Baghdad Bob, who I'm sure is hunkered down somewhere in the Sunni Triangle just waiting for his chance in the big leagues.

Yahoo finance headline is better:

"Pending Home Sales Hit New Record Low"

"If he came out and said "Folks, housing is in the crapper and it will take until lat in 2009 ..."

bluestatedon | 04.08.08 - 11:03 am | #


And he'd still be waaaay off.

It's a pent-up demand thing. The more people don't buy in the spring market, the more 'spring' the market will have to it in the fall.

...but seriously, do they post their methodology on how this index is constructed anywhere?

Retail up W-o-W .7 in the face of %4 inflation?

Do any of the dimmer bulbs here want to explain how this isn't bad?

If a man's livelihood depends on their not understanding something, you can pretty much bank on their not understanding it.

"And he'd still be waaaay off."

True enough, but his doctors have told him it wouldn't be prudent for Lawrence to embrace reality 100% all at once. They say it needs to be a step-by-step, gradual process, otherwise his head will explode from the pressure of all that real data rushing in.

See the .7% is week o week. But the 4% is for 52 weeks so you have to divide it by 52. See?

Yun is rational. He is a paid shill with a credentials that are supposed to lend him credibility. It is in his interest to use extra "optimistic" assumptions in order to insure his continued employment....something wise when facing a recessionary employment environment.

Don't hate the player...hate the game.

Personally, I would rather be pennyless. But I am a fool....and a rather poor one at that. It is the price I pay for having a conscience.

Capital One to reduce 750 jobs in U.K.: report

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When there was layoffs at work, the first cuts came from UK.

I agree Yun is overly optimistic. However, I still expect sales activity to pick up going forward as lenders drop prices and FHA gets their leash lengthened.

OT -- the schmucks/shysters/shylocks must be holding their powder for an afternoon pump; S&P 500 futures activity is light this morning.

Ralph C:

BR at The Big Picture touches upon the methodology.

The Big Picture

ac, do you have a subscription to Redbook? Or, is there free access to that retail data someplace?

I checked with the free access at Haver, which reports the Redbook data weekly, but I see nothing there.

A note to the press.
After every quote by Yun this caveat should be placed directly folowing;
"During this housing boom and bust Mr. Yun and his predecessor were wrong in their predictions 100% of the time."

Can we please just rename the NAR the "National Association of Retards" and be done with it? Or does that insult retarded people?

Don't hate the player...hate the game.

COMMUNIST!

Fun Yuns Fun Yuns,
Roly Poly Fun Yuns
Fun Yuns Fun Yuns,
Eat him up yum

In the morning,
Laughing happy Fun Yuns,
In the evening,
Sleeping in his bed

...

ac, do you have a subscription to Redbook? Or, is there free access to that retail data someplace?

I checked with the free access at Haver, which reports the Redbook data weekly, but I see nothing there.

I just get it from the Econoday site which you get access to with a WSJ subscription. But I used another free site for a little while that I remember having mostly the same data. I can't recall the name of it off hand, alas.

Thx, Deuces.

I found this interesting: "The combined total of vacation- and investment-home sales declined with the overall market in 2007, but still accounted for 33 percent of all existing- and new-home sales, which is close to historic norms [...] Yun said the findings suggest different cycles for each of the sectors over the past two years. “Investment-home sales declined sharply in 2006 as speculators disappeared, leaving the market to serious buyers, with the pattern continuing in 2007,” he said. “Vacation-home sales rose to a new record in 2006 because there was a pent-up demand from buyers who couldn’t find a property as a result of tight supplies in preceding years.”"

This data would be awfully useful, monthly. Charting first home, second home and investment property sales together could give some interesting patterns, assuming the 3 categories of money aren't all equally dumb.

I'm sort of wondering what sort of magic event is going to happen so that Q3 and Q4 take off as most economists and analysts are predicting. Because from where I sit, nothing is going to provide a lift for quite some time. Not housing, not tech, not spending...what's left?

WaMu lays off 3,000 at home-loan centers: report

I still don't understand how the numbers don't drop more than that.

On an individual counties I am looking at numbers are much lower.

I think they fake the numbers big time.

ac, do you have a subscription to Redbook? Or, is there free access to that retail data someplace?

I checked with the free access at Haver, which reports the Redbook data weekly, but I see nothing there.

jg,

Try this bloomberg calendar .

Yun = You Understand Nothing

Yun = You underestimate nutt'

If you have'nt enjoyed your life up to this point, your phugged

A corpse is stablized.

"I'm sort of wondering what sort of magic event is going to happen so that Q3 and Q4 take off as most economists and analysts are predicting"

do you mean in housing? or equities market?

I would not be surprised with a Q3 or Q4 SHORT TERM rally in equities this year. I don't necessarily anticipate it, but I wouldn't be surprised.

the bulls really have this thought going that the rebate checks will come out and that will prop spending, giving a short term bump GDP and thus to earnings.

this will make it appear as though we've hit bottom and are emerging from recession, and investors may jump back in.

Only to be hit for the next leg down...

in other words: we'd get the "W" recession.

when I watch CNBC the announcers are decidely more bullish in many ways. Even Rick Santelli (who is usually a straight talker) speaks of the current crisis as 'better' than it was before.

Yun, verb. To willfully misinterpret data to support one's plans or paycheck.

Example: The Bush Administration yunned us pretty good on the whole WMD thing...

"If a man's livelihood depends on their not understanding something, you can pretty much bank on their not understanding it."

You're too kind to the man. He understands perfectly. He just wants the job.

I took a PR job out of college, naively thinking, "Well, everyone has the right to pay people to say good things about them." I quit in disgust within a year over the things I had to do and say. But the department was full of 20-year men. Alcoholics, half of them.

Kp--"He is a paid shill with a credentials that are supposed to lend him credibility."

There seems to be a meltdown of "expertism" in this country.

I feel like I'm living in Nazi Germany. Has any first world country since those dark days of the 1930's and 40's employed so much pseudoscience in the service of ideology, greed and politics?

First, in the run-up to the Iraq war, they march out all these so-called military, intelligence and foreign affairs "experts." Tommy Franks, Colin Powell and George Tennet squandered their credibility and reputations in the service of politics and greed. And now, way too quickly on the heels of that debacle, come a whole new wave of "experts"--Arthur Laffer, Milton Friedman, Alan Greenspan, to name only a few--who have prostituted themselves for political expediency.

We are going to see a crisis of credibility in this country. People are simply going to stop believing the experts. Daniel Yankelovich said that the "best criterion for judging the quality of expert opinion is whether it proves to be right or wrong."

And if that is the criterion, the quality of expert opinion we are being served in this country is abysmal.

do you mean in housing? or equities market?

Actually both, as I think they are now related by general feelings.

I don't understand the equities position or the bullishness, because everytime i run my models and adjust for forward earnings, i see things are still over-valued. Perhaps people confuse oversold with overvalued. There is no way forward earnings support any rally for the foreseeable future. I think people are trying to look ahead, but I see nothing but contraction until the end of the year at least. That would mean that buying should occur somewhere in August/September.

On RE you have to be smoking crack to even think that anything tainted by this segment will see even stabilization until sometime next year.

Not housing, not tech, not spending...what's left?
ipodius | 04.08.08 - 11:24 am | #

ipodius - You're back I see.

I've been touting this for a while now.

Only thing that's left is free money.

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I think that Pending Sales peaked in August 2005.

Here is the index level for Aug’05:

National 128.2
West\t135.6

Feb’08:

National 84.6 -34% from Peak
West 84.6 - 37.6% from Peak

IF we do have a severe recession than down 50% from the peak level would be a minimum target. Most likely we would see 3.xxM level.

Jas

jg/ac: I use this link for economic data reports:

U.S. Economic Calendar

Same source as the Bloomberg calendar, slightly different format.

anybody to care to comment on lehman's pile of aurora paper? are they next in line after bear stearns?

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NAR Forecasts:

October 02, 2006: “Pending Home Sales Index Shows Market Stabilizing”

November 01, 2006: “Pending Home Sales Show Leveling Trend”

Jas

It looks like the market is allowing the dilution to be the solution...

Unfortunately it's only going to delay the inevitable while eating away longterm shareholder value.

I wonder how long this dilution game will last. We will have to see a failure from a bank that used dilution as a last resort.

That will be the final shoe to drop imho.

Stabilize?

Looks to me as though it'll stabilize at terminal velocity sometime before impact....

longterm shareholder

Ain't none of those in this casino.

ipodius - You're back I see

I tried the other side just to see what it was like. But I tossed and turned all night and didn't sleep Smile

I'm not saying catastrophe, just realism here. It's funny how the tables have turned...before it was the bears that kept saying "everything is going to fall apart" and called the recession way too early. Now the bulls are calling a recovery way too early.

And as far as Yun goes, he's the spokesperson for a trade group first, an economist second. He's supposed to take what he sees, and put a nice smiley face on it no matter how dire. Just like Bush administration press folks. Why anyone even listens is beyond me.

Retail up W-o-W .7 in the face of %4 inflation?
Do any of the dimmer bulbs here want to explain how this isn't bad?
Alec

It's not particularly relevant, but it obviously isn't bad. That's an annual rate of 35%, or 31% adjusted for inflation.

Arithmetic is a wonderful thing. BTW, who are you calling dim?

If you rearrange the letters in LAWRENCE YUN, you get "NEW RE LUNACY."

O/T but very interesting:

NEW YORK, April 8 (Reuters) - Shares of First Marblehead Corp (FMD.N: Quote, Profile, Research), one of the largest securitizers of student loans, sank to a record low on Tuesday after a company that guarantees bonds it helps to sell filed for bankruptcy protection.

In morning trading, the shares were down $2.95, or 38.3 percent, at $4.75 on the New York Stock Exchange.

The decline came after The Education Resources Institute Inc, which calls itself the largest not-for-profit guarantor of U.S. private education loans, filed on Monday for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.

UPDATE 3-First Marblehead sinks as guarantor goes bankrupt
| Reuters

gm - What have you heard re LEH?

Debbie Downer - LOL! Best moniker yet!

Sure it'll stabalize at 32 ft/s2 >; )

As I've said many times, this isn't over until a city burns.

ipodius | 04.08.08 - 11:24 am


War.

REAL War.

Here's another example of someone who needs to pull his/her head out of the sand. According to Minneapolis Area Association of Realtors (MAAR), Feb. 2008 median sales price went down 12.5% from last year. "The long-awaited market corrections are finally out in full force as home values respond to tepid sales." But, what's their 3-month forecast? Down? No! Median sales price is suppose to stay flat. In fact, if you look at their forecast for other indicators for the next 3 months, the market looks, well, pretty darn stable, if you can force yourself to completely ignore the numbers right next to the forecasts.

http://mplsrealtor.com/downloads/market/MMI/mmi.pdf

Hmm, maybe Yun got a job moonlighting for MAAR.

Home On, Deranged

Oh, give me a loan where the buffaloed moan
Where the fear and the antacid hold sway
Where seldom is heard a discouraging realtor word
And the streets are not crowded all day

Lawrence Yun's idiotic comments are likely to stabilise during the coming months before picking up during the final quarter.

We forecast the number of stupid comments will increase y-o-y by around 9.3% +/- 130.3% in Q4 against the same period in 2007.

ac, thanks for the tip on Econoday and for the link to the Bloomberg calendar.

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The Worst Price Per Sq Ft Trend Metros as per the Latest Radar Logic Data\t
(Average of 6M, 3M and 1M Annual Rates)\t

-46.2%\t San Fran, CA
-43.4%\t Sacramento, CA
-42.8%\t Las Vegas, NV
-31.7%\t Boston, MA
-31.6%\t Detroit, MI
-30.4%\t Denver, CO
-29.8%\t Washington, DC
-29.2%\t San Diego, CA
-29.1%\t Los Angeles, CA
-28.5%\t Tampa, FL
-26.7% Milwaukee, WI
-24.2%\t San Jose, CA
-22.2%\t Phoenix, AZ

-19.5% 25 MSA Composite

I do expect some leveling off in the coming 2-3 months before the second leg down later in 2008.

Jas

Wait. He's partially correct:

"Existing home sales could start to show a sustained increase within a few months, unless there are some additional economic problems or excessive inflationary pressure."

Thats a BIG UNLESS.

This is the funniest blog ever, thank you! Great jokes, like:

  1. Existing-home sales are likely to rise
  2. Contracts signed in February
  3. the market will come into clearer focus this summer.

LOL! ROTFLMAO ..Bawhahahahahaaa

Maybe Yun is forecasting these numbers because of the "SUNSHINE" tax. You know, if he believes in global warming, then everywhere in the U.S. will become more desirable to live. It's not just L.A. or San Diego anymore.

We're all So Cal now!

Regards,

Lawrence Yun
Chief Joker
Clown Extraordinaire
NAR

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