Rob now, HOPE later

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Speaking of robbery:

Regarding The Pension Protection Act, i.e, the little matter of DOL underwriter exemptions, which allow hedge funds to use pension funds to invest in derivatives like CDOs ?? Take a look at how Big Brother is at work, because, there is a tsunami headed towards pension accounts, which will be ground zero for money market liquidity!!! DANGER!!! read your prospectus and head for the high ground!!!
United States Government Accountability Office
GAO Report to Congressional Committees
PENSION BENEFIT
GUARANTY
CORPORATIONJuly 2007
http://finance.senate.gov/press/Gpress/2007/prg071307b.pdf
In January 2007, DOL officials orally directed PBGC to have no direct
contact with OMB without DOL’s approval, a condition that PBGC
officials believe has strained the relationship between DOL and PBGC
budget offices.
DOL now closely monitors PBGC’s interactions with
OMB by attending meetings and participating in telephone calls. DOL
officials said that such action is needed to coordinate with PBGC in
order to provide OMB examiners with a consistent message. OMB
officials said that DOL’s review of PBGC’s budget submission was
useful.
One former PBGC
Executive Director also noted that PBGC could not be just like any other
DOL agency, because if it were, the Secretaries of the Treasury and
Commerce, by a two-vote majority, could theoretically direct policies of
another federal cabinet department.
The uncertainty of PBGC’s status has resulted in confusion over the extent
to which DOL has the authority to manage PBGC’s operations. According
to our internal control standards, agencies should ensure that key areas
of authority and responsibilities are defined and communicated. However,
neither the board, DOL, nor PBGC has developedformal policies and
procedures to define its authorities and responsibilities. Instead, PBGC
officials typically react to DOL’s periodic written and oral
communications, which PBGC officials said sometimes become a part of
PBGC’s operational framework.
** Well worth looking at the fine print in the 1000 page PPA doc, which both Obama and Hillary voted for…obviously McCain as well, as SIFMA is highly connected and will tap your cash accounts!!

hahah awesomely ridiculous

Thats great! I need a good laugh today. Thanks CR

Vandals Deliver Notes to Bremerton Banks Via Bricks

BREMERTON, Washington State

"Chunks of concrete with the words "Social Youth Chaos" were thrown through the windows of four Bremerton banks early Thursday.

Notes taped to the blocks read, in capital letters, "Here is your brick back, recognize it? You should. It is part of the wall that you, as one of the elite upper class, have helped to build between the minority ruling class, and the majority working class throughout history. By flaunting your decadence, you have made yourself a target."

Vandals Deliver Notes to Bremerton Banks Via Bricks » Kitsap Sun

That's one way to monetize a collateralized debt obligation.

Dont know if anyone posted this yet in previous threads but I found this via TBP:

Countrywide Foreclosures (REO) Blog 

Countrywide Foreclosures Blog

Tracking the economic effects of the housing bubble (crash) as a result of years of loose monetary policy.

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$3B give a take a bit... Ouch!

I think this points out a glaring need for a revision in the law: Those Who Deserve To Be Robbed.

Because obviously this man was just taking justice into his own hands, and rightly so. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, and cash for a mortgage.

This is the 21st century. We shouldn't be operating on 20th century laws. Times have changed.

heh heh

Nice post. Tanta is boring, but you are really cool !!!!

Now, all we need is for the government to bail out the robber when he is required to give the money back and we will have come full circle.

Some funny...the reverse mortgage...meaning he will be back next month? ...meaning he will set a bad example and soon it will be socially acceptable?
Goodness this is moving fast: "walk away" -> "walk on over and adopt a vacant house" -> "walk on down to someone else's bank and demand your mortgage payment".
What izit about the 'cops & robbers' motif that captures our attention and the software, mouthware, heisting that makes the robber's loot look like peanuts, gets at best a blank stare...a fine maybe?
We need drama...and that means guns and blood, not securitized AAA investment vehicles and possible SEC investigations.

Not many are robbing banks but apparently a lot of folks are robbing their 401Ks, especially if their bank has just cut off the HELOC or lowered the limit on credit cards. This is a few days old; forgive me if you've seen it already:

Error - washingtonpost.com

"...The suspect is presumed to be ARM'ed and dangerous."

You realize you're going to hell for that.

Tom Stone, that's good

Apologies to Woody Guthrie...

'You say that I'm an outlaw,
You say that I'm a thief,
Well here's some granite counters,
For stuck flippers on relief.

"Financial institutions and companies in the securities/futures business are reporting sizable increases in the amount of losses and suspicious activity attributed to computer intrusions and identity theft, says the Washington Post's Security Fix blog. The Post obtained a confidential report compiled by the FDIC which analyzed Suspicious Activity Reports from the 2nd Quarter of 2007. SARs are filed when banks experience fraud or fishy transactions that exceed $5,000. The bank insurance agency found that losses from computer intrusions averaged $29,630 each — almost triple the estimated loss per SAR during the same time period in 2006 ($10,536). According to the Post, 'The report indicates that the 80 percent of the computer intrusions were classified as "unknown unauthorized access — online banking," and that "unknown unauthorized access to online banking has risen from 10 to 63 percent in the past year."' Another set of figures analyzed by The Post looks at similar increases affecting the securities and futures industry."

Slashdot | Banks, Wall St. Feel Pinch from Computer Intrusion

Robber d00d is a slow leaner by the looks of it.

He should have stolen the money with a pen. He'd get way more.

"The FBI plans to review the bank's foreclosure records for clues."

Well, that's at least 1 million suspects to start questioning!

first it will be banks, then convenience stores, homes ,mugggings, robberies, carhackings,etc. homeless unemployed people will force cime statistics through the roof. This is not a laughing matter. As cities lose tax revenue they will be forced to cut down on necessary services like police, etc.

The best way to rob a bank?

Own the bank.

We will return to the days of the Depression - including the likes of Bonnie and Clyde, et. al.

Until they killed a working man, they were viewed as heroes by many.

the robber doesn't remember that the bank GAVE him the house with 0% down first Smile

This anti-hero isn't tuned to the cause / effect, if he was he'd be pulling his skully down over his visage in DC demanding some of the glod in Frot Konx

From the WaPo article on 401k withdrawals linked above:


Based on current savings rates, the center estimates that 43 percent of households risk not being able to fund the same standard of living during retirement as they have in their working years. That percentage increases to 49 percent for Americans between 36 and 43 whose main retirement plans are 401(k) accounts, not employer-funded pension plans like older generations.

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Friggin' halosacn. There I changed the damned post. GOD I hate haloscan

Damn Stolled through the Encino hills today...all the way over to Bel Aire.

For Sale signs...many.

Went up to a posted REO. $2.2M house, looking through the windows...GUTTED. Toilets gone. Kitchen cabinets...all doors and drawers gone. Counter tops gone. All trim around the fireplace...gone. A/C units gone. Carpet...gone. It was INSANE.

New construction just a block beyond. Contractor notice to stop work due to unpaid $30K. Huge atrium with floor of unfinished plywood, flooded...work stopped 2.01.08. The place is ruined.

In the $3M+ neighborhood...two signs advertising short sales.

I assume these people also robbed the bank.

I assume they were ARM'd as well.

Cheers,

"...GUTTED. Toilets gone. Kitchen cabinets.... It was INSANE"

Sounds like Russia circa 1993. Smile

Go, Team America!

In reality, wouldn't that mean that he took the bank's money twice?

Adult content warning,

YouTube -

Cheers,

I laughed out loud at "reverse mortgage"

If the "reverse mortgage" was FHA insured, the bank is OK.

"Not many are robbing banks but apparently a lot of folks are robbing their 401Ks, especially if their bank has just cut off the HELOC or lowered the limit on credit cards. This is a few days old; forgive me if you've seen it already:"

I expect to get hammered for what's probably a dumb question: with the negative performance of the stock market, might it be wise to pull out your $$$ in terms of a loan? You are even paying interest to yourself, so if the market is lower 2 years from now you will seriously out-performed it.

I briefly considered doing this with my own 401k last summer when it became undeniable what was coming. I say briefly, because I soon discovered my plan's PCRA option that allows me to manage my own 401k retirement dollars via a brokerage account. Since August I'm up 10% with conservative ETF shorting and metals/mining, whereas my co-worker with a virtually identical August balance in his 401k is down almost 30% by sticking with the "safest" managed-funds.

401k loans are obviously a bad choice to spend on consumables, but maybe as a hedge against a bear market if no equiv PCRA option exists?

Uhh, transfer to the money market if you think stocks won't do well...

My understanding is the teller handed him an affidavit of lost note.

The robber placed a briefcase on the counter and handed a note to the cashier that said "put money in or the explosion will destroy your bank."

It was all a misunderstanding. It wasn't a robber after all...it was a rep from Ambac looking for investors.

cd

House stolen, sold, foreclosed, sold, with owner's body still inside

Outsourcing loan origination to brokers we know nothing about, what could go wrong?

"I've got one arm, I guess I must be the guy who did it!"

The Fugitive

(Life imitating art)

You are even paying interest to yourself

Which is going to be taxed when you withdraw it. . .

That's the main negative with taking loans out of 401Ks, other than the administrative fees.

If you want to pay interest to youself, you don't need an investment account. Just a coffee can will do.

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