Yeah, well I dialed 1-800-995-HOPE and I got a "counselor" too. She asked me what kind of home schooling material I wanted.
The options were:
Why Jesus hates the Joos
Why Jesus hates the libruls
Why Jesus hates teh gays
Why Jesus wants GWB to freeze ARM resets
All 4 are available together for a small donation to the Texas GOP.
I would be 100% supportive of this bailout, provided:
Anyone who applies for the bailout will have to subject all their mortgage applications to scrutiny for accuracy. Anyone who is found to have lied about their income, their employment status, or the fact of whether or not the house was a primary residence or an investment property, would go to jail for fraud.
All this hubbub and yet, the PTB assure us that these problems will not affect the broader economy. To see all these important people trotted out to reassure the masses, you could almost think they were really, really worried!
Maybe you can't make it up... but the Bush administration is actually an extremely long, not very good Saturday Night Live sketch from 1977 with Chevy Chase playing POTUS. Or would it be John Belushi?
No, they don't. Oh, they'd think it was 'nice' if it did work, but they don't expect it to work. It's about appearances. It's about Viagra for Mr. Market and Dubya's poll numbers, but not necessarily in that order.
Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., said that by making the plan available only to borrowers with lower credit scores, it sends the message to the public that maintaining good credit is unimportant.
"It goes counter to what we've been telling people: Be careful about your debt," Frank said at a House hearing.
The American Securitization Forum wrote the rate freeze presented to the public by the President of the United States of America.
I found it on their website americansecuritization.com.
It would appear that some of the firms that sold a lot of the bad debt, are members of the industry group for the lending and investment banking business, belong to the American Securitization Forum.
Members include Countrywide Home Loans, Ameriquest Mortgage Company, Capital One, Citi Global Markets Inc., Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, GMAC, JPMorgan Chase, Thornburg Mortgage, Inc., Washington Mutual Bank, MetLife
DBRS, Fitch Ratings, Moodys Investors Service, and Standard & Poors
ABN AMRO, Inc., Banc of America Securities LLC, Barclays Capital Inc., Bear, Stearns & Co. Inc., Countrywide Securities, Credit Suisse, Deutsche Bank Securities Inc., Goldman, Sachs & Co., HSBC Securities (USA) Inc., Lehman Brothers Inc., Merrill Lynch & Co., Morgan Stanley, UBS Investment Bank, PIMCO,
Who is going to profit from the rate freeze modifications?
Who is going to look good if it works, but very bad if it doesn't?
In the executive summary of Streamlined Foreclosure and Loss Avoidance Framework for Securitized Subprime Adjustable Rate Mortgage Loans,
it looks like theyre not going to check howmeowner income, and will be allowed to modify loans even if they don't make contact with the homeowner
wow
Whos stocks went up after the announcement?
Notables
CHAIR Greg MedcrafT, Managing Director, Global Head of Securitization,
Societe Generale Corporate & Investment Banking DEputy CHAIR DianE W old, Managing Director, HEAD OF Investment Banking, GMAC-ResCap
SECRETARY Sanjeev Handa, Head of global public markets, TIAA -CREF
TREASURER nelson soares, managing director, HEAD OF U.S. SECURITIZATION BANKIN G GROUP, LEHMAN BROTHERS
EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT JASON H.P. KRAVITT , SENIOR PARTNER , SECURITIZATION PRACTICE , MAYER BROWN, ROWE & MAY LP
EXECUT IVE VICE PRESIDENT LAWRENCE RUBENSTEIN , GENERAL COUNSEL , WELLS FAR GO ASSET SECURITIES CORPORATION
"Me too!" she cried "me too! Me too! Cameras! Over here! I'm saying it too, and I'm raising them FIVE BILLION DOLLARS! (Did I tell you it takes a village?)"
"These are the people who will help you teach your children that Jesus had a pet dinosaur" named Tanta.
Here Tanta. Come on big girl. Don't bite Tanta. Not nice. Good girl. Ouch!
Good thing conjure bag made it onto the ark along with Noah - would have thought he would have been a bit skeptical of the drunken guy building a boat and sought the high ground along with the dinosaurs and unicorns.
"Jesus came after the flintstones, by which time dinosaurs were kept in zoos, not as pets."
Hey, bacon dreamz, not so fast. Get your facts straight. Although there were dinosaurs in zoos, the Flintstones did have a pet dinosaur. I saw it myself.
Does this mean Jews are exempt from the bailout? What about Jews for Jesus? Not even Reform Jews? I guess Muslims are screwed too. Are atheists out of luck? Agnostics?
Do you have to donate to get a bailout? What a concept.
Maybe Benny Hinn or Jerry Falwell can help out on Sundays.
Man this is getting complicated. Only 4 people in Tennessee named Earl will qualify with all these restrictions.
"Maybe Benny Hinn or Jerry Falwell can help out on Sundays."
Jerry Falwell is dead, which reminds me of one of his former assistants, who was asphyxiated in his bathtub recently wearing two-count 'em-scuba suits.
I won't go into the details because this is a family site, but if you're interested in the details (and who wouldn't be) check out The Smoking Gun site. They have the FULL autopsy report.
It's interesting to me how those of you on this board mock fundmentalist Christians supposed intolerance with your own. BTW, I'm not one, but I do recognize that many of them are pretty decent people.
It's interesting to me how those of you on this board mock fundmentalist Christians supposed intolerance with your own.
Quoted for truth.
Also, to anybody mocking Bush in this thread, I certainly hope that you have never confused a 1-800 number with a 1-888 number before. That would just be hypocritical...
Also, to anybody mocking Bush in this thread, I certainly hope that you have never confused a 1-800 number with a 1-888 number before. That would just be hypocritical...
When I am elected President and people are looking to me for clear thinking and leadership, well, I guess I'll just have to point to my other stellar performances.
It's interesting to me how those of you on this board mock fundmentalist Christians supposed intolerance with your own. BTW, I'm not one, but I do recognize that many of them are pretty decent people.
Re reading the posts I don't see mockery of the "intolerance", but of the 'core' beliefs that are not directly revealed in The Book. For example, there are Christians who don't reject evolution and they seem to be decent people, too.
Sandman, I can honestly say that I have never confused 800 and 888 numbers, nor have I ever confused standard alloy aluminum tubes with weapons of mass destruction, which may make me either lucky, or diligent, or both. I guess.
I don't have any problem with christians.However I would like to ask anyone on this board to enumerate the ACTIONS of GW Bush that are consistent with the teachings of Jesus Christ.
At least the Freedom Christian Academy pitches Mannatech(MLM) health products on its web site which makes it a even more credible place to get learnin stuff for your kids. Google Sam Caster founder of Mannatech and other "businesses".
first!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Can't they do ANYTHING right?
Now I really think the plan is a loser.
Yeah, well I dialed 1-800-995-HOPE and I got a "counselor" too. She asked me what kind of home schooling material I wanted.
The options were:
Why Jesus hates the Joos
Why Jesus hates the libruls
Why Jesus hates teh gays
Why Jesus wants GWB to freeze ARM resets
All 4 are available together for a small donation to the Texas GOP.
I would be 100% supportive of this bailout, provided:
Anyone who applies for the bailout will have to subject all their mortgage applications to scrutiny for accuracy. Anyone who is found to have lied about their income, their employment status, or the fact of whether or not the house was a primary residence or an investment property, would go to jail for fraud.
As of 4:15 PST the WSJ online still has the incorrect number in at least one of its articles.
Battle Lines Form Over Mortgage Plan - WSJ.com
Wow! A bailout AND eternal salvation!
How do you know Dubya didn't get it right? Maybe the press office got it wrong.
Abandon all hope,ye who enter here! for I am GWB,and I am here to help you...
All this hubbub and yet, the PTB assure us that these problems will not affect the broader economy. To see all these important people trotted out to reassure the masses, you could almost think they were really, really worried!
I just figured it out.
Maybe you can't make it up... but the Bush administration is actually an extremely long, not very good Saturday Night Live sketch from 1977 with Chevy Chase playing POTUS. Or would it be John Belushi?
They do not care if it works.
"Or would it be John Belushi?"
Chevy Chase.
"They do not care if it works."
No, they don't. Oh, they'd think it was 'nice' if it did work, but they don't expect it to work. It's about appearances. It's about Viagra for Mr. Market and Dubya's poll numbers, but not necessarily in that order.
The bailout plan is s dud. All that hoopla for a "just for show" attempt. I guess if you have to ask, it isn't "Shock and Awe"!
The thing that's got me worried is that I'm not sure how long it will take for either party to realize that this is a wrong number.
B: "I need to talk to someone about freezing my ARM."
TFCA: "If you pray to the Lord he will warm your arm up."
B: "No, I want my ARM to be frozen."
TFCA: "If thy right arm offend thee, cut it off."
B: "No, no, I want that Hope thing the president was talking about. The Hope thing that freezes your ARM."
TFCA: "I see that you are familiar with home-schooling."
The wonderful thing about all of this is that it will exhaust the bulls. They're going to stretch this thing out to the very last, and that's good.
"Then," as Conjure Bag said, "chaos."
"Let the good times roll."
Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., said that by making the plan available only to borrowers with lower credit scores, it sends the message to the public that maintaining good credit is unimportant.
"It goes counter to what we've been telling people: Be careful about your debt," Frank said at a House hearing.
LOL
Hey, Tanta, stay away from home schooling.
Son of mp was home-schooled and he's the only twenty-something I know who wears three piece suits (with watch and chain).
He's a regular chip off the old block.
When Barney Frank has to lecture a Republican President on personal responsibility, you know that the GOP has hit a new low.
To be undercut, of course, by the next act of monumental stupidity coming from inside the beltway.
The American Securitization Forum wrote the rate freeze presented to the public by the President of the United States of America.
I found it on their website americansecuritization.com.
It would appear that some of the firms that sold a lot of the bad debt, are members of the industry group for the lending and investment banking business, belong to the American Securitization Forum.
Members include Countrywide Home Loans, Ameriquest Mortgage Company, Capital One, Citi Global Markets Inc., Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, GMAC, JPMorgan Chase, Thornburg Mortgage, Inc., Washington Mutual Bank, MetLife
DBRS, Fitch Ratings, Moodys Investors Service, and Standard & Poors
ABN AMRO, Inc., Banc of America Securities LLC, Barclays Capital Inc., Bear, Stearns & Co. Inc., Countrywide Securities, Credit Suisse, Deutsche Bank Securities Inc., Goldman, Sachs & Co., HSBC Securities (USA) Inc., Lehman Brothers Inc., Merrill Lynch & Co., Morgan Stanley, UBS Investment Bank, PIMCO,
Who is going to profit from the rate freeze modifications?
Who is going to look good if it works, but very bad if it doesn't?
In the executive summary of Streamlined Foreclosure and Loss Avoidance Framework for Securitized Subprime Adjustable Rate Mortgage Loans,
it looks like theyre not going to check howmeowner income, and will be allowed to modify loans even if they don't make contact with the homeowner
wow
Whos stocks went up after the announcement?
Notables
CHAIR Greg MedcrafT, Managing Director, Global Head of Securitization,
Societe Generale Corporate & Investment Banking DEputy CHAIR DianE W old, Managing Director, HEAD OF Investment Banking, GMAC-ResCap
SECRETARY Sanjeev Handa, Head of global public markets, TIAA -CREF
TREASURER nelson soares, managing director, HEAD OF U.S. SECURITIZATION BANKIN G GROUP, LEHMAN BROTHERS
EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT JASON H.P. KRAVITT , SENIOR PARTNER , SECURITIZATION PRACTICE , MAYER BROWN, ROWE & MAY LP
EXECUT IVE VICE PRESIDENT LAWRENCE RUBENSTEIN , GENERAL COUNSEL , WELLS FAR GO ASSET SECURITIES CORPORATION
Shall we all join together and call the President of the United States a monkey! Thanks for the post!
Great, another "faith-based" initiative.
Hey, Tanta, stay away from home schooling
Oh, come on, mp, Google the Freedom Christian Academy.
These are the people who will help you teach your children that Jesus had a pet dinosaur.
Tanta, Son of mp's home school bibles were "Security Analysis," by Graham and Dodd and "The Prince," by Nicolo Machiavelli.
I offer this by way of explanation.
"Me too!" she cried "me too! Me too! Cameras! Over here! I'm saying it too, and I'm raising them FIVE BILLION DOLLARS! (Did I tell you it takes a village?)"
Jesus had a pet dinosaur?
Was its name George?
"These are the people who will help you teach your children that Jesus had a pet dinosaur" named Tanta.
Here Tanta. Come on big girl. Don't bite Tanta. Not nice. Good girl. Ouch!
"Oh, come on, mp, Google the Freedom Christian Academy."
I won't. I'm afraid to do it. It might try to infect my computer or something.
Conjure Bag might try it. He's into fringe stuff.
god, don't you guys know anything about history? Jesus came after the flintstones, by which time dinosaurs were kept in zoos, not as pets.
Good thing conjure bag made it onto the ark along with Noah - would have thought he would have been a bit skeptical of the drunken guy building a boat and sought the high ground along with the dinosaurs and unicorns.
p.s. i'm not making fun of jesus, no offense anybody.
It's already pretty well established that Jesus did have a pet dinosaur.
GWB & Mike Huckabee both don't believe in evolution, too much secular science & math 'n stuff.
HOPE on the other hand (& prayer!), will cure your ARM!
Jesus had a pet dinosaur?
mp | 12.06.07 - 8:11 pm | #
Was its name George?
mp
Well now I have to clean the martini off of my monitor. Thanks mp.
Cheers,
"Jesus came after the flintstones, by which time dinosaurs were kept in zoos, not as pets."
Hey, bacon dreamz, not so fast. Get your facts straight. Although there were dinosaurs in zoos, the Flintstones did have a pet dinosaur. I saw it myself.
Well, I was taught dinosaurs had a pet Jesus.
Whoa mojo...either that or Jesus had Photoshop, which is even more impressive when you think about it.
The thing that's got me worried is that I'm not sure how long it will take for either party to realize that this is a wrong number.
B: "I need to talk to someone about freezing my ARM."
TFCA: "If you pray to the Lord he will warm your arm up."
B: "No, I want my ARM to be frozen."
TFCA: "If thy right arm offend thee, cut it off."
B: "No, no, I want that Hope thing the president was talking about. The Hope thing that freezes your ARM."
TFCA: "I see that you are familiar with home-schooling."
Sorry Jesus but that's funny. Let me pray for all the little pigmies with Frozen Arms.
I told you that the Chimp couldn't explain the details correctly.
the Flintstones did have a pet dinosaur. I saw it myself.
mp, i didn't forget about dino, i meant they were kept in zoos after the time of the flintstones.
If the Flintstones taught us anything, it's that pelicans can be used to mix cement.-Bart Simpson
Yep, we're living in a cartoon world.
Hey, do you have the option for Spanish on that HOPE phone number?
Could there be any better evidence against "intelligent design" than G.W. Bush?
Does this mean Jews are exempt from the bailout? What about Jews for Jesus? Not even Reform Jews? I guess Muslims are screwed too. Are atheists out of luck? Agnostics?
Do you have to donate to get a bailout? What a concept.
Maybe Benny Hinn or Jerry Falwell can help out on Sundays.
Man this is getting complicated. Only 4 people in Tennessee named Earl will qualify with all these restrictions.
"Maybe Benny Hinn or Jerry Falwell can help out on Sundays."
Jerry Falwell is dead, which reminds me of one of his former assistants, who was asphyxiated in his bathtub recently wearing two-count 'em-scuba suits.
I won't go into the details because this is a family site, but if you're interested in the details (and who wouldn't be) check out The Smoking Gun site. They have the FULL autopsy report.
mp,
Heck that one ought be equivalent to about an hour of Scrooge McDuck cartoons for Conjure Bag!
It's interesting to me how those of you on this board mock fundmentalist Christians supposed intolerance with your own. BTW, I'm not one, but I do recognize that many of them are pretty decent people.
Quoted for truth.
Also, to anybody mocking Bush in this thread, I certainly hope that you have never confused a 1-800 number with a 1-888 number before. That would just be hypocritical...
Also, to anybody mocking Bush in this thread, I certainly hope that you have never confused a 1-800 number with a 1-888 number before. That would just be hypocritical...
When I am elected President and people are looking to me for clear thinking and leadership, well, I guess I'll just have to point to my other stellar performances.
It's interesting to me how those of you on this board mock fundmentalist Christians supposed intolerance with your own. BTW, I'm not one, but I do recognize that many of them are pretty decent people.
Re reading the posts I don't see mockery of the "intolerance", but of the 'core' beliefs that are not directly revealed in The Book. For example, there are Christians who don't reject evolution and they seem to be decent people, too.
Sandman, I can honestly say that I have never confused 800 and 888 numbers, nor have I ever confused standard alloy aluminum tubes with weapons of mass destruction, which may make me either lucky, or diligent, or both. I guess.
I don't have any problem with christians.However I would like to ask anyone on this board to enumerate the ACTIONS of GW Bush that are consistent with the teachings of Jesus Christ.
I don't have any problem with Christians or Mormons. I just don't want one as President.
At least the Freedom Christian Academy pitches Mannatech(MLM) health products on its web site which makes it a even more credible place to get learnin stuff for your kids. Google Sam Caster founder of Mannatech and other "businesses".
"Could there be any better evidence against 'intelligent design' than G.W. Bush?"
I would take the counterpoint - 4 billion years of evolution would've produced dung beetles with more acumen.
No, he is the product of design. It's just not as intelligent as it's given credit for. There is nothing guarding the light at the end of the tunnel.