do these small to mid size banks have any exposure to structured finance like ABCP, CDO's? i assume they're too small to have set up SIV's or conduits?
"Do you anticipate bank failures like England saw with Northern Rock?" Paulson gave a non-answer, and the reason is probably because there are several bank failures in the offing.
Yes, but don't worry, it won't affect Wall Street bonuses.
idoc, I don't think the small banks are exposed to CDOs, SIVs, etc. But they are heavily exposed to construction and commercial real estate. These banks couldn't compete in mortgages - so most of these small banks avoided the mortgage problems (although not all).
This graph is from last year - but it shows the problem ... many of these banks are too concentrated in construction and development.
This remark needed a little expansion: Construction projects, once begun, are useless (and liabilities) if not finished. And like that housing inventory even if finished but vacant, continuing liabilities, yes?
The high maintenance costs of housing: those glamorous darlings of the investment world, didn't dwell on this aspect while the boom was on, but now she is starting to look like high maintenance and the glamor is gone.
I wonder how much of the enigmatic residential construction employment can be assigned to the cost of maintaining vacant housing stock?
The heavy constructon and engineering companies have been on a roll. These include Jacobs Engineering, Fluor, KBR, Chicago Bridge and Iron and the like. Will these companies be turning the other way, or are they somehow insulated from what we are talking about here?
the reason is probably because there are several bank failures in the offing.
Well something is going on. It's now pretty clear no recession in 2007 yet the Fed is obviously nervous. Banks being more troubled than we know is one possible explanation.
idoc, I haven't really changed my view on CRE - I've been expecting a slowdown for some time. Now and then I add some qualifiers - because I don't think the slump will be anything like in the '80s with the S&L crisis.
Recently I added: "Due to the deep slump for CRE during the business led recession in 2001, CRE is nowhere near as overbuilt as residential - even though the CRE lending standards were very loose."
My view is a CRE slump is starting - how bad, I'm not really sure, but I will post more. I just don't think it is as bad as the '80s for CRE or residential now.
Well something is going on. It's now pretty clear no recession in 2007 yet the Fed is obviously nervous. Banks being more troubled than we know is one possible explanation.
The Whitehouse at least seems very nervous and generally pessimistic about the economy. They're already talking about how a recession will affect the budget deficit.
Whether a recession starts in 2007 or 2008 at this point is largely immaterial.
i think Sheila Bairs original industry wide rate freeze proposal and her cart before the horse accusation of investor opposition to Paulson's rate freeze IMO indicates a fear of what may befall the banking system dead ahead.
There's two overlapping issues. One is construction loans, which Floyd said are more of a problem for small banks than large banks. The other is the concentrated exposure that some small/intermediate banks have to condo lending.
Condo lending has become a fiasco, both in the construction phase and selling phase. The construction loans are only taken out when consumers who have signed contracts agree to proceed and take title. But they are cancelling left and right, which leave developers without the means to pay off construction loans, even after projects are completed. Without construction loans retired, the projects can't qualify for permanent financing. So, they are stuck in limbo and will start to default like dominoes.
A top federal bank regulator said some investors who are criticizing the new rescue plan for troubled homeowners also may be placing bets in which they would benefit from a jump in foreclosures.
this chick is a brainless bimbo. altho OTOH she could be quite brilliant spinning it this way. of course critics have bets placed BEFORE this crazy rate freeze proposal and obviously are acting to protect those investments from gov't intervention. what does she expect, investors to stand by and accept losses?
During the Paulson Q&A on Friday, he was asked: "Do you anticipate bank failures like England saw with Northern Rock?" Paulson gave a non-answer, and the reason is probably because there are several bank failures in the offing.
Given the way this administration is infamous for managing press conferences, is there any doubt that the question were fed towards the 'pat' answers? Or that the selection of questions was carefully chosen? I'd like to know if "Alan from Arizona" currently resides in Arizona or the Beltway.
As Rich alludes to above, construction loans at small banks are not always for commercial work. Almost all homebuilders use construction loans that are closed out when the mortgage is put in place. Almost 100 percent of unsold new homes probably have a construction loan in place. That, taxes and utilities keep ticking away for the builder until the house is sold or until he is buried too deep to recover.
I work in commercial real estate finance for a fund in NYC.
The amazing thing is that a lot of these small banks are picking up the "slack" in terms of CRE loans originations, because most funds, large banks and investment banks stopped writing loans in Q4 (for the most part), as the CDO (i.e. leverage) market disappeared (which also negatively affected the syndication efforts of large/investment banks) and the CMBS (i.e. selling assets) market is a shell of its former self.
The good news is that the banks appear to be writing relatively low leverage loans (and always have), the bad news is that they are writing them at very low spreads relative to the rest of the market, and would have a difficult time selling those loans at par. The other good news is that the Borrower is typically recourse on bank loans, versus the non-recourse CDO/CMBS transactions that made up the bulk of the market prior to the credit crunch.
Re condos, i wouldn't be surprised to see Corus go under just on the basis of their activity in the condo construction market, though I am not familiar with their balance sheet.
My outlook on the national CRE market is negative - the price of a lot of properties were driven up due to high-leverage, cheap financing (made possible by CDO and CMBS execution), and without that financing currently available, I would expect cap rates to rise. This shouldn't be a major issue for the bulk of CRE, but will be for any transaction that relied on cheap, high-leverage financing and a low cap rate to effectuate a sale or refinance (right now, example 1A is Harry Mackowe's purchase of the EOP New York office portfolio).
Individually and collectively, LDIs are a version of economically targeted investing, whose aim it is to improve the economic well-being of the state, its municipalities, and its residents. In most ways, however, LDIs do not appear closely related to one another: some are one-time economic development investments, others are infrastructure improvements, and yet others are ongoing programs. LDIs are also diverse in terms of recipient or beneficiary, financing vehicle, structure, credit terms and conditions, and mechanisms to protect the principal.
What LDIs have in common is the legislatively directed use of state funds to achieve public purposes, often at subsidized rates. Each involves the State Treasurer's Office, which makes the actual investment on behalf of the state.
This report uses certain terms to describe the status of funds associated with LDIs. For most LDIs, statutes or session laws authorize a specific amount of money to be used in connection with a program or project. Within the amount authorized, funds may be deployed in several ways. The portion of funds that an LDI program or project puts to active use is called allocated funds. Some authorized funds may not be actively at work for the program or project, and these are called unobligated funds. Finally, in those programs involving bond guarantees, some or all of the funds may be committed to stand behind the LDIs, while other funds are uncommitted, or not yet required for a guarantee.
Chapter 2: Summary of Individual LDIs
Chapter 2 contains a one-page description of each LDI, with discussion of the history, purpose, and current need for each. Overall, we found that the 26 LDIs have been approved in an ad hoc manner throughout this century, with little consistency in their terms and conditions. The first was authorized in 1907, but the majority have been authorized in the last 17 years, five of them in 1995 alone.
Nine LDIs are direct loans or loan programs, four more involve the purchase of loans, three are bond guarantee programs, eight involve the purchase of bonds, and two are deposit programs. Authorizations range from a low of $2 million to a high of $275 million, although only four LDIs are authorized for $100 million or more. For more detail on the individual LDIs, refer to Chapter 2 of this report.
Chapter 3: Funds Allocate to LDIs Earn Less-Than-Market Returns
LDIs result in lower-than-market returns in two distinct ways. First, as discussed in this chapter, the funds allocated to specific projects and programs are earning comparatively less than funds managed strictly for investment purposes. Second, as explained in Chapter 4, earnings on the funds that are authorized, but not allocated, are also less than market.
Chairman Bair has also said more than once that she thinks things will get worse before they get better. She never says how much worse because even she doesn't have that answer. Ask fomer FDIC Chairman Bill Siedman under contract with CNBC and NEVER asked now about upcoming bank failures. CNBC knows not to go there with Siedman because he is likely to give a Paulson type response or ignore it and move on to some issue he is willing to jabber on about endlessly and with superior glee.
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says residential is about 60 percent of US private construction. Given that it has been dropping, total bank exposure is probably now about 50-50 residential/commercial construction loans. It is pretty easy to imagine the state of much of the residential segment. Very large commercial work is probably not financed through small or medium banks. Smaller commercial projects are financed there. Those smaller projects usually are pretty directly related to housing growth.
Citrons strongest card was his track record. Earnings from the investment pool had been an increasingly important part of the Orange County budget since the late 1970s, leading to a relaxation of the rules surrounding how funds could be invested. In addition to the county itself, municipal entities such as the Orange County cities of Anaheim and Irvine, along with various local government authorities and services, were attracted to the investment pool by the unusually good rates of return it offered.
These investors put money that they raised from taxes and other sources into the pool, in the hope that the cash would grow before they had to spend it on vital public services. Excess returns from the pool were particularly welcome in the early 1990s: the local political environment was set against raising taxes and local government finances were under increasing strain. Some municipal entities even began to borrow money to increase their pool investments. (According to some commentators, the excess returns over the years amounted to hundreds of millions of dollars and, in a limited sense, considerably offset the eventual loss.)
Few municipal investors in the pool quizzed Citron on how he worked his magic, or analysed independently the level of risk he was running to gain excess returns. They took comfort from the fact that Orange County was itself heavily invested in the pool. However, the board of supervisors that acted as the principal oversight for Citrons actions as Orange County treasurer lacked financial sophistication. Orange County also failed to surround Citron with a compensating infrastructure of strict investment policies, risk controls, regular and detailed reporting, and independent oversight. This mattered more and more as the aim of the pool gradually turned towards making, rather than managing, money.
Through the early 1990s, Citron enjoyed his growing importance as someone who conjured up extra money for public services. The amount of public money in the pool grew quickly until in 1994, Citron was investing $7.5 billion in US agency notes of various kinds. He was a popular port of call for salesmen from Wall Streets big brokerage firms, particularly those from securities giant Merrill Lynch. Later, these salesmen would say they were merely servicing an experienced and savvy investor, while Citron would claim he had been misled about the riskiness of the instruments.
One thing is certain: while the pool offered greater returns than those of similar cash management pools, it did so only by taking on more risk. In particular, Citron gambled that medium-term interest-bearing securities would maintain or increase their value. He used various techniques to leverage his $7.5 billion of funds into more than $20 billion of investments so that both the returns and the risks were multiplied.
One way he did this was to enter into contracts known as reverse repurchase agreements, which allowed him to use securities the pool
Wachovia Bank is suing construction mogul Clinton C. Myers, whose company has earned praise for speedy repairs of roads and bridges, alleging that he and some of his other business interests are in default on more than $61 million in loans for the Winchester Country Club he built in Auburn.
The Charlotte, N.C.-based bank filed suit Wednesday in U.S. District Court in Sacramento, seeking to recover the money and other costs.
The 1,000-acre country club opened in 2001. According to the bank's complaint, Myers obtained loans totaling almost $66 million from Wachovia in 2005 to refinance and develop new lots at the country club. Since January 2007, the bank alleges. Myers has failed to meet terms that required that he reduce the amount of principal owed on the loans to certain amounts by certain dates, and still owes $61 million.
Myers could not be reached for comment.
Myers is chief executive of C.C. Myers Inc., a Rancho Cordova company that specializes in highway and bridge construction and has won acclaim and big bonuses for speedy repairs after earthquakes and fires. C.C. Myers Inc. is not a defendant in the suit.
Dec 7 (Reuters) - Simon Property Group Inc (SPG.N: Quote, Profile , Research), the largest U.S. mall operator, lowered its forecast for the year on Friday, citing a write-off for its investment in a Phoenix residential joint venture with home builder Toll Brothers Inc (TOL.N: Quote, Profile , Research).
The non-cash impairment, net of tax benefits, will reduce full-year net income available to common share holders by $26 million, or 11 cents a share, to $2.02 per share and funds from operations (FFO) of $5.77 per share.
The new forecast of $5.77 is near the upper end of Simon's original forecast of full-year FFO of $5.70 to $5.80 per share.
Clayton Holdings Inc. said today that it expects to take a pre-tax, non-cash, impairment charge of between $75 million and $100 million in the fourth quarter of 2007, reflecting the reduced carrying value of goodwill, intangible assets and other long-lived assets of its transaction management business. The goodwill and intangible assets were recorded in 2004 when TA Associates acquired the majority interest in Clayton's due diligence business.
"As we have reported for several quarters, the steep decline in new nonconforming securities issuance has significantly reduced our transaction management revenues. While we are well positioned to benefit from any recovery in this market, internal and industry projections anticipate continued lower levels of MBS/ABS issuance throughout much of 2008 and possibly into 2009," said Frank Filipps, Clayton's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer. "In our last 10-Q and investor call, we noted that our board of directors would retain an independent expert to review the value of the goodwill and intangible assets that we carry on our balance sheet. While these impairment tests have not been completed, the company's board of directors has determined that generally accepted accounting principles will require us to record a non-cash impairment charge during the fourth quarter of 2007. This charge does not affect our cash position, our cash flow from operations or our debt covenants."
After the charge, the carrying value of Clayton's goodwill and other intangible assets will total approximately $38 million to $63 million.
About Clayton Holdings, Inc.
Clayton Holdings, Inc., headquartered in Shelton, Connecticut, is an information and analytics company serving leading capital markets firms, lending institutions, fixed income investors and loan servicers with a full suite of information-based analytics, specialty consulting and outsourced services. Clayton's services include due diligence analytics, conduit support services, professional staffing, compliance products and services, credit risk management and surveillance and specialized loan servicing services.
"The slump in the global credit markets will force banks, brokerages and hedge funds to cut lending by $2 trillion, triggering the risk of a 'substantial recession' in the U.S., according to Goldman Sachs Group Inc. Losses related to record U.S. home foreclosurers using a 'back-of-the envelope' calulation may be as high as $400 billion for financial companies, said Jan Hatzius, chief economist at Goldman", Bloomberg, Nov. 18, 2007
Cash shortage to keep navy in portMichael Smith
MOST of the Royal Navy will be tied up in dock next year, frozen by a £15 billion black hole in the Ministry of Defence budget over the next decade, writes Michael Smith.
As the MoD fights proposals for £12 billion of defence cuts over the same period, only ships supporting operations in the Gulf will leave port. The soaring cost of operations in Iraq and Afghanistan and the increasing reluctance of the Treasury to fund them is adding to the pressure.
The navy is looking at what options they have because the amount of funding is just not there, one source said. The overheating of the equipment budget is putting pressure on everyone. The only major exercise expected to go ahead is Orion 08, in which the aircraft carrier HMS Illustrious, the destroyer Edinburgh and the frigate Westminster will head for the Gulf, defence sources said
The bond market has clearly got recession on the brain," Merrill Lynch economist David Rosenberg said in a report this week.
In just six months, bond investors have developed a very dreary mood -- a complete change of heart since June. Then, they were worried about too much growth and inflation, and the yields on 10-year Treasury notes reflected that spirit, touching 5.29 percent. This week, yields dropped to as low as 3.87 percent, as Rosenberg remarked, "Bond yields are melting before our eyes."
On Thursday, yields climbed a bit, to 4 percent.
Rosenberg said the extreme plunge that occurred over just six months is rare and often hints at a recession.
The last time bonds plunged so deeply was 2002, as the economy came close to relapsing into recession, he said. "Before that, it was in the spring of 1986, when the inflation rate melted to 1 percent year over year on the back of $10 a barrel oil price. Before that, we had a decline in late 1983 as the economy was just about to emerge from a nasty recession," he said.
Rosenberg's conclusion: "The Treasury market is thinking that the recession is either already here or just around the corner."
Of course, the quick about-face by bond investors since June indicates that economic conditions are difficult to predict and both stock and bond investors can get them wrong.
But Leuthold Group analyst Patrick Magnusson also noted this week that the bond market has been reliable in predicting economic weakness and the conditions that ultimately force the Federal Reserve to cut rates.
At the end of November, the two-year Treasury note was trading at a yield of 3 percent, versus the federal funds rate of 4.5 percent. And whenever the two-year note has been below the fed funds rate, the Fed has eventually dropped rates.
The idea is to make money cheaper to borrow so that consumers and businesses spend and give the economy a boost.
Still, what presumably ails the economy most is a deep housing recession -- one of the worst since the Depression.
Douglas Duncan, economist for the Mortgage Bankers Association, said Thursday that he does not think the home foreclosure rate will peak until next year's third quarter.
And lower interest rates won't necessarily fix the housing market because the main driver of slumping prices is an excessive number of homes and what were unusually high prices in some markets after years of speculation and overbuilding. Recently, the situation has been aggravated by a slowdown in lending.
Duncan said he thinks housing will start recovering after the third quarter, but that assumes that the economy does not become so weak that people lose jobs and can't buy homes.
In May 2006, the Federal Reserve decided it would no longer publish M3. The cynics among us believe this is a deliberate effort to keep the true inflation rate unknown from the general public. It should, however, be remembered that the smartest people don't work for the government, but for private enterprise. Therefore, a group of economists developed a formula to track M3 because of its usefulness in predicting inflation. Their results are published on a Web site called nowandfutures.com for anyone who has need for the information.
A recent look shows that M3 is growing at an annual rate of almost 18 percent. The highest growth rate in the last inflation cycle in 1980 was 14 percent. The government, via the Federal Reserve, controls money growth. Sometimes it grows fast and sometimes it grows slow, but it always grows.
Bank credit is another subject. Bank credit can both grow and contract, which presents a whole new equation when trying to track inflation. Because we have a fractional reserve banking system in the country, the banks have an enormous effect on the supply of money. If you don't understand fractional reserve banking, I don't have the space to explain it. In simple terms, as banks make credit available, they in effect make money available. However, in the case of massive loan defaults such as the subprime mortgage mess we are now experiencing, money is removed from the banking system causing the reverse of inflation, or deflation. The result today is that the Federal Reserve is creating money at a high rate to offset the effects of the subprime mortgage collapse.
Why would the government try to disguise the money growth and therefore inflation? The simple reason is that it saves them money. During the Clinton administration and continued by the Bush administration, the Department of Labor changed the method of calculation, Consumer Price Index, which they argue is equivalent to inflation. These changes included the power of substitution and something called hedonics (the theory of better value). An example would be that if the price of steak goes up, they substitute hamburger. An example of hedonics would be that if you buy a car with more features, even though you paid more, they calculate it cost you less because of the new features.
The effects of these tricks are reduced, government cost for social benefits tied to a cost of living. As an example the annual outlays for Social Security benefits are approximately $657 billion per year. If a true inflation adjustment were used, Social Security benefits would be $200 billion higher.
Tanta may have to take a look at a post on Big Picture to elaborate about the signifigance of another judge's ruling on a securitization's shitty paper. Appears to be a unopposed bankruptcy motion where a judge stepped in without prodding to challenge shitty paper. From the comments it appears some are saying that the securitization's lein might be in trouble due to their shitty paper making them an unsecured creditor in the bankruptcy. What's that do to the value of these things???
Financial ratios
The key financial ratio used to analyze fractional-reserve banks is the cash reserve ratio, which is the ratio of reserves to demand deposits and notes. For example this could be 10%, which would mean the bank has 10% reserves for all funds deposited at the bank, with the remaining 90% used for loans. Term deposits such as certificate of deposit are ignored when calculating this ratio because the bank only needs reserves to pay the term deposit at its maturity, and not during its term. Many Countries have even gone to a zero-reserve banking system, as Canada did in 1991. The opposite of zero-reserve banking would be full-reserve banking.
The 'reserves' part of the reserve ratio can be most narrowly defined as legal tender, i.e. assets that can be directly paid out as withdrawals and do not have to be exchanged or sold. However, banks and financial analysts use other liquidity ratios and methods to measure and monitor liquidity in order to capture other cash outflows and sources of liquidity (such as early redemptions of term deposits, and lines of credit with other banks, respectively).
Possible confusion
The reserve ratio should not be confused with the capital ratio, which is the ratio of the bank's capital to its assets. The capital of a bank includes the net worth of the bank (assets less liabilities), and subordinated debt, which ranks behind the claims of general depositors and other unsecured creditors, and thereby provides similar protection from loss. The capital ratio is adjusted by risk-weighting the assets of the bank, and the result is called the risk-adjusted capital ratio.
In a fractional reserve banking economy, where money only has value through government fiat, banks create money as a book entry. They can lend pretty much as much as they like (literally creating money), as long as they maintain their capital adequacy ratios. The whole danger of the CDO-system is that capital adequacy has become irrelevant and there is no limit to the amount of lending that can be made, i.e. money that can be printed. I agree with you philosophically that this has no value but tell that to the people who invested $1.2bn in the two Bear Stearns funds! Tell that to the person you buy a house from when the transfer comes from the building society and he says thats not real money! Tell that to the checkout girl at Tesco when you get your debit card out to pay for your groceries. Unfortunately, this IS real money and banks manufacture it. I dont like it either, but unfortunately, we have to live with it.
In terms of the CDO funds that are rapidly losing value, think of them as a kind of insurance contract they did have value once, but now the risk they insured against has come to pass (a collapse in the US sub-prime mortgage market), they are now essentially valueless. This does not mean they didnt once serve a purpose, but unfortunately, because the people who packaged them, sold them and those that invested in them didnt really understand the risk, these selfish and greedy people now threaten the whole financial system. Bear Stearns essentially borrowed 25 times their investor capital to provide insurance against a collapse in the US housing market.
The primary problem, as always is leverage unwinding of leveraged positions destroys value, as things that do still have value/utility get sold down in the rush for cash. If you cant sell what you want to, sell what you can is an old market adage.
This means that in a rush for the exits, as speculators sell down assets to pay off their borrowing, all assets fall in price. This could be shares in the South Sea Company in 1720, shares of Radio Corporation of America in 1929 as margin calls hit the market, it could be CDOs today as hedge funds and investment banks need to reduce their leverage, or it could be 2 bedroom flats in Manchester as buy-to-let investors cant refinance their mortgage. Whatever form it takes, de-leverging destroys value in a vicious downward spiral and lots of people, not just economists, lament that.
Rock in the zone
Robert Peston 7 Dec 07, 10:15 AM Northern Rock has been advised by its lawyers that its in the zone of liquidation.
Which sounds scary, but its really just a statement of the bloomin obvious, in that the Rock cannot fund its operations from normal commercial sources and is in hock to the taxpayers to the tune of £25.5bn.
The significance of being in that unappetising zone is that the board has to put the interests of its creditors ahead of those of its shareholders.
And thats why the board cannot simply approve Olivants rescue plan, even though Olivants scheme is much friendlier to the interests of shareholders than the takeover proposal from a consortium led by Sir Richard Branson and Virgin.
Or to put it another way, ultimately itll be up to the chancellor as proxy for the lead creditor, all of us to decide what happens to the Rock.
The Fed receives too much credit for the "efficacy" of past easing cycles... The evolving securitization markets and government-sponsored enterprises were the key mechanisms driving system credit expansion when the banking system was severely impaired back in 1991/92. By 1993, the blossoming leveraged speculating community had become a major force, taking highly leveraged positions in US (and Mexican!) debt securities, in the process significantly augmenting system credit availability and marketplace liquidity. By the time of the "Asian Contagion" and the Russian/Long Term Capital Management crisis, leveraged speculation throughout the (global) debt markets had become a prevailing source of system credit and liquidity creation.
Having first nurtured "Wall Street finance" to buck the banking system "headwinds" early in the '90s, by the end of the decade Fed accommodation had fashioned the most powerful "reflationary" tool in the history of central banking. Simply tinker with rates or signal lower prospective market yields and the enterprising speculators would quickly lever up on risky debt instruments on demand. Never had it been so easy for a central bank to incite "animal spirits" and stimulate credit and liquidity. The hedge funds, Wall Street firms and, increasingly over time, myriad global financial players forged the maestros "genius", the American economic "miracle", and synchronized global asset and economic booms. In any case, the leveraged speculating community has been the force behind US bubble economy dynamics including $800 billion current account deficits, negative savings rates, destabilizing asset bubbles, and so-called economic "resiliency".
I think the Fed is now in an almost impossible situation because their only effective "tool" has turned into an out-of-control beast. They want to tame it, not kill it. But now that it's got a taste of freedom it's never going back in the cage so long as it has a pulse.
Everybody's been conditioned to gamble for a living and nobody wants to work.
You know whats so bloody interesting, the fact that we Yanks dont even notice The Bank Of England bailing out Rock, because we are so busy here watching Bush & Paulson bail out our subprime/CDO/SIV/Pension meltdown; this is a global problem which gets worse daily, as it moves from spot to spot, bank to bank!
Alistair Darlings priority apart from maintaining the stability of the financial system and protecting depositors is making sure that we, as taxpayers, get our money back.
And whats scary for him (and, frankly, for all of us) is that conditions in money markets are as bad as anyone can remember.
Virgin is no longer confident it can raise a jumbo loan of £11bn to repay a chunk of taxpayer-backed loans from the Bank of England which currently total £25.5bn.
In theory, that undermines the Virgin proposal.
Except that Olivant too cannot give a cast-iron guarantee that it would be able to raise a comparable sum. All it can offer is hope that it will be able to repay somewhere between £10bn and £15bn within the next two or three months.
The Treasury had wanted to make a decision on the Rocks future by mid December which in reality means by the end of next week.
The options have narrowed to nationalisation versus two potential commercial solutions that are not yet wholly nailed down.
How is the chancellor to make a rational choice when money markets are so unstable?
What he needs to think about, and fast, is whether he genuinely believes the Rock is a going concern.
If it is, then theres no ambiguity about what he should do.
OT:
Actually anon, most of England is watching or otherwise blog-following the Hatton Mayweather fight - another one in the long line of Great British hopes, starting with ( in my lifetime) 'Our 'Enery then jack Bodell, Joe Bugner, Bruno.. who was that Frank geezer somewhere in between..
btw its round 6 / 12 and expat or not, I don't rate Hatton's chances at this time.
As I was reading the following post, it occured to me that much of this Subprime Flu, which I really think is more like an advanced case of Colony Collapse Disorder, will resolve itself through simple honesty and accounting, because, money has to go somewhere to be safe. Thus, the banks that continue to play with credit enhancement derivatives and leverage risk to a point of chaos will simply destroy capital and customer approval, i.e., they will die on the vine, while banks that are in the business of "honest" lending that pursue risk management models that are not based on super computer finacial engineering and tax evasion -- will survive and thrive.
Im not sure if bees are over-leverged, but CCD is chaotic and symptomatic of stressed conditions, which might be somewhat related to a new model by Penrose:
Re: For example, Roger Penrose has argued that a cyclic model may be necessary to explain how the universe is compatible with the second law of thermodynamics, one of the most fundamental dictums of physics. According to the second law, entropy (the amount of disorder) always increases. Since the inflationary model creates an enormous amount of entropy, the universe must have begun with very little before inflation.
Now, back to supply and demand and why money will flee to safety, like bees to honey:
Worried savers money has to go somewhere. And both individuals and companies appear to have identified RBS as a safe haven.
RBSs statement says that it has experienced strong deposit growth. And I understand that more than £800m of additional liquidity has gushed into its accounts over the past few months.
At a time when the rates charged by banks for lending to each other is hitting record levels, this inflow of deposits represents cheap money.
So unlike Alliance & Leicester which recently warned of a squeeze in net profit margins RBSs profit margins are improving. Which may, to an extent, offset the expected slowdown in the US and UK economies next year.
RBS has another advantage over banks with a predominantly UK focus. Its been able to tap the generous liquidity provided by the European Central Bank and the Federal Reserve.
The bank has therefore been less vulnerable to the perceived structural shortage of liquid funds in the sterling money market for which the Bank of Englands conservative approach to the provision of cash to the banking system has been widely blamed.
But lets not get carried away here.
RBS has been bashed by the debacle in structured finance and in the US sub-prime market.
In the second half of 2007, it has incurred write-downs of £950m on its holdings of assorted securities created from loans to US homebuyers with dodgy credit histories.
At the bit of the Dutch bank ABN which it has bought, there are anticipated write-downs of £300m.
And theres a further £250m impairment charge on RBSs holdings of loans made to private-equity buyouts.
In one breath, Mr. Bush warned he would use his veto power to stop Congress from over-spending, while in the next he fought -- alas, successfully -- to protect hedge fund managers and buyout partners from having to pay the same tax rate that millions of ordinary taxpayers must pay. Several of these fund managers are billionaires, others are multimillionaires. Yet the White House not only fought to keep their income tax rate at the capital gains level of 15 percent, but also, incredibly, to borrow $51 billion to make up for the revenue lost by this preferential tax treatment.
That $51 billion could have been recouped if only the Senate had had the courage last week to make the hedge fund millionaires pay their fair share. Instead, Democrats caved and joined with Republicans in voting to freeze the alternative minimum tax, without providing any way to replace the $50 billion that will be lost to the Treasury. The freeze is justified to protect middle class taxpayers from a levy intended to apply only to the very wealthy. But refusing to recoup the lost revenue isn't justified; it's irresponsible. Regrettably, the House, which has insisted on making hedge fund pay higher taxes, seems ready to go along with the Senate.
As The New York Times has pointed out, in addition to Head Start, the spending bill vetoed by Mr. Bush would have provided funds for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, college financial aid, mine safety, cancer research and other valuable programs. Mr. Bush said the bill exceeded prudent spending limits by $12 billion. He had urged Congress to cut $7 billion from these programs next year, but instead, the lawmakers increased the spending total by $5 billion.
At least one billionaire, Warren Buffett, recognizes the absurdity of the Bush position. He has candidly acknowledged that his tax rate is lower than that paid by the people who work for him and who aren't nearly as well off as he. The disparity has shamed him to the point of speaking out. But where is Mr. Bush's sense of fairness? Where is his sense of proportion? Where's his sense of shame? Mr. Bush's double talk -- Page 1 -- Times Union - Albany NY
As I was reading the following post, it occured to me that much of this Subprime Flu, which I really think is more like an advanced case of Colony Collapse Disorder, will resolve itself through simple honesty and accounting, because, money has to go somewhere to be safe. Thus, the banks that continue to play with credit enhancement derivatives and leverage risk to a point of chaos will simply destroy capital and customer approval, i.e., they will die on the vine, while banks that are in the business of "honest" lending that pursue risk management models that are not based on super computer finacial engineering and tax evasion -- will survive and thrive.
However you dice it there's one fundamental overarching problem that's not going to go away:
Runaway credit expansion has created the illusion of wealth that does not actually exist.
People and businesses have been trading in real wealth for these wealth illusions, not recognizing them for what they are. In effect they have been working and not getting properly compensated for it, while clever speculators run off with the spoils of labor they didn't perform.
In the past these wealth illusions have always been discovered, and when that happens there's a "panic" and then hell to pay in the aftermath as people lose faith in the system that "robbed" them. Productivity declines as cooperation turns into conflict and lethargy and disillusionment overcome workers and businesses.
Nobody has come up with an easy way out of this problem because there is no way to make these wealth illusions real.
We learned earlier this week in a court filing that the prosecution plans to ask Buffett to the witness stand.
That means there's a possibility (not a certainty by any means) that both sides may be looking to Buffett to testify in the case.
At issue: whether five executives, including General Re's former CFO Elizabeth Monrad, orchestrated a deal that illegally pumped up American International Group's reserves. General Re is a subsidiary of Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway holding company.
Gasparino quotes Monrad's attorney, Reid Weingarten, as saying Buffett's testimony might be helpful because the Omaha billionaire knew about the transaction at the heart of the case and didn't try to stop it. That would be portrayed as supporting Monrad's argument that there was nothing illegal about the deal.
See previous case: KR Dublin refers to Cologne Re, which eventually took part in the transaction. According to the note, Mr. Brandon also suggested "funds withheld," a method of accounting for some reinsurance transactions that was also eventually employed by General Re in accounting for the AIG deal.
Analysis and Commentary: One has to ask how a seasoned financial person like Mr. Buffett would accept large deposits from another insurance company without knowing their fundamental character. Knowing this would be essential in terms of establishing an interest rate based upon expected maturity, etc.
While many speculate on why Buffett allowed these transactions to occur, my feeling is that he is trying to disguise the reality that General RE's goodwill is impaired and should be written down by at least $6 billion. The notion that a small spread between what Berkshire paid to have these deposits from companies like AIG and the spread on its investments was the primary reason seems a bit naive.
Each of the defendants was aware that the true purpose of the transactions was to permit A.I.G. to report and record loss reserves it did not really have to calm analyst criticism of A.I.G.'s reduction in loss reserves in the third quarter of 2000," the Justice Department said in a statement accompanying the indictment.
The S.E.C. also filed civil charges today, but it did not cite Mr. Brandon. Instead it named the four former insurance executives facing the criminal charges plus Christopher Garand, the former head of General Re's finite reinsurance operation.
The five were charged with securities fraud in connection with what the agency called a "sham transaction." They could face financial penalties, if convicted, and could be barred from becoming an executive or director of a public company.
A.I.G. has previously acknowledged that its transactions with General Re were improper. Regulators and prosecutors have characterized the deals as an effort by A.I.G. to make its financial statements appear more robust than they actually were. A.I.G. forced Mr. Greenberg, a strong-willed and detail-oriented executive, to r
Finally, we continue to worry about the unprecedented issuance of collateralized bonds,mortgages and loans (we hold none!). The assumption in the marketplace is that structurewill eliminate or significantly reduce all risks. So a portfolio of 100% non-investment gradebonds, sub-prime mortgages or non-investment grade corporate loans, by sophisticatedstructuring, can transform into securities of which 80% or more are rated A or above. This hasresulted in thousands of collateralized bond issues being rated AAA while fewer than10 corporations in the U.S. are AAA! We see an explosion coming but unfortunately cannotpredict when. As Grants Interest Rate Observer said in its December 15, 2006 issue, Blame forthe distress at the fringes of subprime, we judge, cannot be laid at the feet of the U.S. economy.It should, rather, attach to the lenders and borrowers who piled debt on debt until the edificesways even in a dead calm.Our concerns about the U.S. financial markets are why we continue to protect our shareholdersfrom a 1 in 50 or 1 in 100 year event. With about half our equity exposure hedged against theS&P 500 (there are some basis risks as our stock positions are worldwide), our investment of$276 million in credit default swaps (with a notional value of $13.1 billion), andapproximately 78% of our investment portfolios consisting of government bonds and cash, wefeel that we have effectively protected our investment portfolios from a potential (though lowprobability) financial market disaster.Last year, we gave you a treatise on credit default swaps. In 2006, as spreads narrowed evenfurther, we lost $87.1 million on these swaps! Since our original purchase, we have lost 74% of our original investment of $276 million. Fortunately, these losses are predominantly only on amark-to-market basis. On average, we still have four years left on the swaps. As this goes topress, spreads have begun to widen considerably and we have recouped some of our mark-to-market losses. Also, we continued to maintain our S&P 500 hedges in 2006. Those hedges costus $159.0 million in 2006, and $296.0 million cumulatively since 2004. However, if not forthose hedges, we would not feel comfortable having approximately $2.3 billion in equities.Some of you have wondered sometimes loudly why we bother with these hedges and creditdefault swaps. Besides our comfort in having this protection, we continue to think that thisinsurance policy may pay dividends perhaps sooner than you think!
Yah, that was nice...yah know, from a news standpoint!
Dec. 7 (Bloomberg) -- Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce may take additional writedowns of as much as C$2 billion ($1.99 billion), bringing costs from the subprime mortgage collapse to C$3 billion, topping its record losses from Enron Corp.
Canada's fifth-biggest lender said yesterday it has about $9.9 billion in hedged derivatives contracts tied to subprime mortgages that may face ``significant'' future losses. That could result in writedowns of about C$1.7 billion over the next year, TD Newcrest analyst Jason Bilodeau said today. Ian de Verteuil at BMO Capital Markets said the additional writedowns may reach C$2 billion.
This has the potential to materially impact CIBC's capital levels,'' Dundee Securities Corp. analyst John Aiken said today in a telephone interview.What the charge will ultimately be is contingent on a whole multitude of variables.''
The costs may reduce Canadian Imperial's earnings in fiscal 2008 and hurt the stock, which yesterday had its biggest one-day decline in more than two years. Canadian Imperial fell C$2.85, or 3.5 percent, to C$79.55 at 4:10 p.m. trading on the Toronto Stock Exchange. Canadian Imperial is the worst performing bank stock in Canada this year, down 19 percent.
"The risk/return characteristics of these businesses were not consistent with our expectations or the strategic framework we have set for CIBC, a framework we intend to vigorously adhere to," he said. "We also intend to place additional emphasis on building capital strength, which we believe to be prudent given the uncertainty of the current market conditions."
This capital, which would normally be earmarked for a possible U.S. retail acquisition, will now double as a cushion against potential writedowns. CIBC said yesterday it would take an additional $225-million in charges in the month of November on its unhedged exposure exposure that is not insured against losses bringing the total so far on that portfolio to $978-million. The far bigger worry, though, is on the $9.8-billion hedged book, especially given the uncertain financial health of U.S. bond insurers who provide these hedging contracts.CIBC said almost half of its $9.8-billion in hedged exposure is spread across five triple-A-rated financial guarantors, and has purchased an additional $420-million of protection against this group. A further 18 per cent is with two double-A insurers.
What investors are focusing on, however, is $3.5-billion worth of exposure that is thought to be hedged with ACA. These assets have already declined by half in value, meaning that ACA would owe CIBC $1.7-billion. These assets have likely deteriorated even further in recent months, and the question now is how much, if any, money will ACA be able to pay.
"How does CIBC get this big of an exposure in the first place?" asked another analyst. "And why $3.5-billion to one counterparty? These are two massive mistakes, and they're going to pay the price."
How do they get this exposure........go ask the dumb clucks in Florida and 50 other states where they all were greedy pigs with retarded financial models that all exploded with the same stupidity virus!
Nouriel missed Bush & Paulson I guess; the contagion is a done deal, the virus is stamped out (embed here>>>picture of Bush trying to kick burning toilet paper off his shoes, which is attached to flaming dog feces):
Re RGE: The bloodbath in credit and financial markets will continue and sharply worsen
Nouriel Roubini | Nov 05, 2007
It is now clear that the delusional hope that the severe credit and liquidity crunch that hit US and global financial markets would ease has been shattered by the events of the last few weeks. This credit crunch is getting much worse and its financial and real fallout will be severe.
The amount of losses that financial institutions have already recognized - $20 billion is just the very tip of the iceberg of much larger losses that will end up in the hundreds of billions of dollars. At stake in subprime alone is about a trillion of sub-prime related RMBS and hundreds of billions of mortgage related CDOs. But calling this crisis a sub-prime meltdown is ludicrous as by now the contagion has seriously spread to near prime and prime mortgages. And it is spreading to subprime and near prime credit cards and auto loans where deliquencies are rising and will sharply rise further in the year ahead. And it is spreading to every corner of the securitized financial system that is either frozen or on the way to freeze: CDOs issuance is near dead; the LBO market and the related leveraged loans market is piling deals that have been postponed, restructured or cancelled; the liquidity squeeze in the interbank market especially at the one month to three months maturities - is continuing; the losses that banks and investment banks will experience in the next few quarters will erode their Tier 1 capital ratio; the ABCP and related SIV sectors are near dead and unraveling; and since the Super-conduit will flop the only options are those of bringing those SIV assets on balance sheet (with significant capital and liquidity effects) or sell them at a large loss; similar problems and crunches are emerging in the CLO, CMO and CMBS markets; junk bonds spreads are widening and corporate default rates will soon start to rise. Every corner of the securitization world is now under severe stress, including so called highly rated and safe (AAA and AA) securities.
Dec 8 (Reuters) - German Finance Minister Peer Steinbrueck said the United States regarded the economic situation as more critical now than it did several months ago, a German newspaper reported on Saturday.
Steinbrueck predicted that the current banking crisis would probably continue in 2008, although he declined to predict whether a credit crunch would hit Germany as well.
"I simply don't know. What I see is significantly increased mistrust in interbank trade," he said in an interview in Germany's Boersen Zeitung
"My colleagues in the USA view the situation as more critical than they did three or four months ago," Steinbrueck said.
On Thursday, MBIA declared a regular quarterly dividend of 34 cents per share on its common stock. The dividend is payable Jan. 15 2008 to shareholders of record as of Dec. 21.
Friedman, Billings, Ramsey analyst Steve Stelmach told Forbes.com recently that the issue for Ambac over the past few weeks has been whether the New York-based bond insurer is appropriately valuing its CDO portfolio as credit ratings on the securities have plummeted. CDOs, or collateralized debt obligations, are securities backed by a pool of bonds, loans or other assests, where investors buy slices classified by varying levels of debt or credit risk. (See " Ambac Investors Sweat A Little More")
Ambac management has recently been making its case to the public as to why the situation is not as bad as it seems, holding conferences and issuing rebuttals. (See Ambac Talks Back)
The collapse of the subprime mortgage market in recent months has created a domino effect in which investments like CDOs have lost much of their value, and subsequently the companies that hold them have had to incorporate those declines onto their books.
From tues: In an uncommon move, Ambac Financial (nyse: ABK - news - people ) issued a rebuttal to a report issued Friday by Morgan Stanley that painted a very cautious picture of the financial guaranty industry in general, and Ambac in particular.
As the credit market continues to weaken, Analyst Ken Zerbe wrote, our confidence that the guarantors will survive the credit meltdown is waning, prompting us to take a more conservative view of the financial guarantors.
More importantly, Zerbe increased his loss expectations for Ambac to $3.5 billion, with $2.1 billion in losses on collateralized debt obligations (CDOs). On its CDO exposures, he revised his estimate to a loss rate of 15%, up from 13%, based on trading levels of subprime asset-backed securities.
For the most part, the New York City-based companys rebuttal expressed only a difference of opinion. The company said that it stood by its assessment of itself, while identifying specific points where it took exception to Zerbes analysis.
We are confident in the quality of our internal credit ratings process, Ambac said, we have been very transparent to the market and our investors by disclosing significant detail in our direct mortgage and CDO exposure in our various public disclosures.
One point of inconsistency between the companys rebuttal and Zerbes analysis centers on the use of the ABX index as a standard of assessment.
The ABX index represents a basket of credit default swaps on high-risk subprime mortgages and home-equity loans. Investors buy ABX swaps to hedge on the risk of default on the underlying mortgages. If the index falls, it indicates that investors expect losses to increase on high-risk mortgages.
The company took exception to Zerbes expectation that CDO losses would increase, saying that Zerbe had assumed t
Reference is hereby made to that certain Indenture dated as of December 6, 2006 (the Indenture), among OCTANS III CDO, LTD., as Issuer, OCTANS III CDO, CORP, as Co-Issuer, and The Bank of New York Trust Company, National Association, in its capacity as trustee (the Trustee). Capitalized terms used herein and not otherwise defined shall have the meanings assigned to such terms in the Indenture.
Pursuant to Section 6.2 of the Indenture, the Trustee hereby provides notice of an Event of Default under Section 5.1( of the Indenture because on the Determination Date occurring on December 3, 2007 (a) the Net Outstanding Portfolio Balance on such Determination Date plus the MVS Account Excess as of such Determination Date was less than (b) the sum of the Remaining Unfunded Notional Amount plus the Outstanding Swap Counterparty Amount plus the Aggregate Outstanding Amount of the Class A Notes.
If an Event of Default occurs and is continuing, a Majority of the Controlling Class may direct the Trustee, by notice to the Co-Issuers and the Trustee, to (A) declare the principal of all of the Secured Notes to be immediately due and payable, and upon any such declaration such principal, together with all accrued and unpaid interest thereon, and other amounts payable under the Indenture, including any Senior Loan Swap Installment, shall become immediately due and payable and (B) terminate the Reinvestment Period
July 23 (Reuters) - Standard & Poor's on Monday said it may cut $1.76 billion in collateralized debt obligations backed by asset backed debt, citing exposure to residential mortgages that have undergone downgrades.
S&P said it may cut 33 CDO pieces, taken from eight deals that package asset-backed securities, or a combination of ABS and ABS derivatives. Seven of the eight deals were created in 2006, and one was originated in 2007, the rating agency said.
All of the affected CDO transactions have exposure to U.S. residential mortgage-backed securities (RMBS) backed by first-lien subprime mortgages.
The deals under review are all so-called mezzanine rated paper, which are backed by "A" and "BBB" rated tranches of residential mortgage backed securities and other structured finance securities, S&P said.
The deals that have tranches under review include Arca Funding 2006-II Ltd., Auriga CDO Ltd., Cetus ABS CDO 2006-2 Ltd., Gemstone CDO VII Ltd., GSC ABS CDO 2006-4u, Octans III CDO Ltd. and Ischus Synthetic ABS CDO 2006-2 Ltd.
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In May 2006, the Federal Reserve decided it would no longer publish M3. The cynics among us believe this is a deliberate effort to keep the true inflation rate unknown from the general public.
M3 is unrelated to inflation, it's essentially useless. Of course that would be nice if they continue to publish it just to give some brain food to some PhD hopefuls, maybe they can use it in some research.
"The ticking time bomb in the U.S. banking system is not resetting subprime mortgage rates. The real problem is the contractual ability of investors in mortgage bonds to require banks to buy back the loans at face value if there was fraud in the origination process.
And, to be sure, fraud is everywhere. It's in the loan application documents, and it's in the appraisals. There are e-mails and memos floating around showing that many people in banks, investment banks and appraisal companies - all the way up to senior management - knew about it."
The Europeans use the money supply to calculate their inflation, theroxy. It is an interesting and I believe whole look at the concept.
We look at consumption, that basket of goods which doesn't include house prices but the proxy OER (devoid of the speculative component...and removed from the reality of the actual cost and the pressures that high house prices have put on other spending).
Our narrow view of inflation excludes investment of any sort even though a ton of money is printed for those causes.
It is almost an ideological divide --not merely a financial strategy for undervaluing inflation to keep government "inflation-protected" payments unprotected from commodity inflation, but also a partial measure of the economy (missing the manager's pay and the growing "financial" portion entirely) refusing to examine anything more than the consumer and his behavior as a worker --fuggedabout his (paltry) investments and especially the other non-paltry investments. It reminds me of anthropological studies: the consumers are the case study, the managers conduct the study.
Accountants seek guidance on bank debt
By Helen Power
Last Updated: 12:40am GMT 09/12/2007
Britain's biggest accountants have held a crisis meeting with the Government to ask it how to value billions of pounds of debt stuck on UK banks' balance sheets by the credit crunch.
The move comes as the so-called Big Four accountants prepare to provide the first true independent assessment of the scale of financial contagion among the UK banks since the credit crunch began.
In an unprecedented move PricewaterhouseCoopers, KPMG, Deloitte and Ernst & Young met officials from the Financial Services Authority late on Friday afternoon to plead with the regulator to sanction a common valuation code in an attempt to push some of the responsibility for quantifying banks' liabilities on to the Government.
The Europeans use the money supply to calculate their inflation, theroxy. It is an interesting and I believe whole look at the concept.
We look at consumption, that basket of goods which doesn't include house prices but the proxy OER (devoid of the speculative component...and removed from the reality of the actual cost and the pressures that high house prices have put on other spending).
It would be intersting to have a post about inflation:
what is excluded from core (just home prices?)
is rent part of the inflation ? othjer house realted expense ?
and what about the non core ? has it for the first time ever become a non-cyclical and actuall jump in food and energy prices ?
This is a great post. I have a list of the banks with the highest ratio of construction loans to capital in my office. I dont recall too many of the large money center banks being too exposed, but some of the large regionals were very exposed. I recall Fifth Third being on the list but not at the top.
It was the case that the price level in 1929 was not much different, on net, from what it had been in 1800. But, in the two decades following the abandonment of the gold standard in 1933, the consumer price index in the United States nearly doubled. And, in the four decades after that, prices quintupled. Monetary policy, unleashed from the constraint of domestic gold convertibility, has allowed a persistent over issuance of money. As recently as a decade ago, central bankers, having witnessed more than a half-century of chronic inflation, appeared to confirm that a fiat currency was inherently subject to excess." Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan before the Economic Club of New York, New York City December 19, 2002 "Issues for Monetary Policy"
That was a tremendous link, especially the Fed signaling to the risk-loves.
Perhaps I am just nostalgic, but didn't the fed use surprise hikes in the old days to shock the system to keep the leveraged community off balance? Maybe it was just Volcker.
Those selling the "freeze" have suggested that mortgage-backed securities investors will benefit because they lose more with rising foreclosures. But with fast-depreciating collateral, the last thing investors in mortgage bonds ought to do is put off foreclosures. Rate freezes are at best a tool for delaying the inevitable foreclosures when even the most optimistic forecasters expect home prices to fall. In October, Goldman Sachs issued a report forecasting an incredible 35 to 40 percent drop in California home prices in the coming few years. To minimize losses, a mortgage bondholder would obviously be better off foreclosing on a home before prices plunge.
Tanta and CR know better, but still...how can these servicers avoid lawsuits when they are clearly acting in their own interest as opposed to the investors'?
Look, the Plan's mod criteria is predictive of nothing. We all agree on that, right? The servicers will argue that non-predicitve criteria is still "the best agreed-upon practice", and that their actions are within the PSA terms. In reality they chose the criteria that minimizes their costs!
Is this much ado about nothing? I don't think so.
You see, these mods benefit servicers and a subset of investors that cannot stomach write downs. The latter of course includes the servicers' parent companies (I'm talkin' about you, Countrywide!).
Think of it as the ranchers, their bankers, and their crony sherriff "fencing in" the sheep herders' land. This is just the first battle, folks. Its pschological, as they are testing the waters to see if they can pull it off. If the townsfolk just lay down and take this one, the ranchers will steal more and more as the cycle wears on.
"...how can these servicers avoid lawsuits when they are clearly acting in their own interest as opposed to the investors'? "
Question is what is the investor suing for? Can they claim that the servicer is too slow in doing work out with borrower and hence their investment pool loss money? And how can they prove that doing an old fashion workout is going to be better (NPV-wise) than this plan and hence they were injured (and by how much?)? And if the servicer has the same policy servicing their own mortgage, what leg will the lawsuit stand on?
The point is that none of these pooled loans that investors bought would withstand discovery in a lawsuit. If just one judge rules "Buy 'em back at par" the floodgates open. I suspect that's why there is a rush to do quick and dirty re-negotiated loans with the borrowers most likely to have lied. If they can do the mods fast enough the servicers can claim the bad loans with falsified information have been replaced with verified loans even if they are every bit as bad an investment.
Fed lowers rates a few times, resulting in 30 year mortgage rate of 3.85%, thus everyone in America goes for the refi, but..
All homes are reappraised at aprox 35% value reduction from where we are now; thus, homes will be worth less across the board and payments will drop across the board.
Obviously, the new era loans will have to have 20% down for owner occuppieds, full docs, full disclosure, etc...
In addition, all banks will have to bail on CDOs/CMOs, RBMS, etc........and reinvent reality with no derivatives..
if they can do the mods fast enough the servicers can claim the bad loans with falsified information have been replaced with verified loans
The required verification is patchy, the V part of LTV calculation, in the first instance is to be the one at origination. Only if they can't pass that do they have to go on to other V analysis like AVM, BPO ( whatever that means ). The ASF documents encourages the use of just information created at origination, which we all think is highly suspect occurs in other places too. Other choice quotes from the doc are:
"Servicers will generally not determine current income or DTI to
determine initial eligibility for refinancing"
Oh why not....first!
do these small to mid size banks have any exposure to structured finance like ABCP, CDO's? i assume they're too small to have set up SIV's or conduits?
"Do you anticipate bank failures like England saw with Northern Rock?" Paulson gave a non-answer, and the reason is probably because there are several bank failures in the offing.
Yes, but don't worry, it won't affect Wall Street bonuses.
idoc, I don't think the small banks are exposed to CDOs, SIVs, etc. But they are heavily exposed to construction and commercial real estate. These banks couldn't compete in mortgages - so most of these small banks avoided the mortgage problems (although not all).
This graph is from last year - but it shows the problem ... many of these banks are too concentrated in construction and development.
Best Wishes.
This remark needed a little expansion:
Construction projects, once begun, are useless (and liabilities) if not finished. And like that housing inventory even if finished but vacant, continuing liabilities, yes?
The high maintenance costs of housing: those glamorous darlings of the investment world, didn't dwell on this aspect while the boom was on, but now she is starting to look like high maintenance and the glamor is gone.
I wonder how much of the enigmatic residential construction employment can be assigned to the cost of maintaining vacant housing stock?
The heavy constructon and engineering companies have been on a roll. These include Jacobs Engineering, Fluor, KBR, Chicago Bridge and Iron and the like. Will these companies be turning the other way, or are they somehow insulated from what we are talking about here?
CR
so in one of your more recent posts u seem to be coming off your downward prediction for CRE a bit. what are your thoughts currently?
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Paulson gave a non-answer, and the reason is probably because there are several bank failures in the offing.
Here comes the lumbering half-comatose formaldehyde economy.
I guess this has been linked to a lot recently?
Turning Japanese
It seems like the banks are double screwed. Not only are they facing huge current losses but who will they lend to in the future?
the reason is probably because there are several bank failures in the offing.
Well something is going on. It's now pretty clear no recession in 2007 yet the Fed is obviously nervous. Banks being more troubled than we know is one possible explanation.
Paulson gave a non-answer, and the reason is probably because there are several bank failures in the offing.
For what it is worth, as of Friday I no longer have any money in Washington Mutual.
idoc, I haven't really changed my view on CRE - I've been expecting a slowdown for some time. Now and then I add some qualifiers - because I don't think the slump will be anything like in the '80s with the S&L crisis.
Recently I added: "Due to the deep slump for CRE during the business led recession in 2001, CRE is nowhere near as overbuilt as residential - even though the CRE lending standards were very loose."
My view is a CRE slump is starting - how bad, I'm not really sure, but I will post more. I just don't think it is as bad as the '80s for CRE or residential now.
Best Wishes.
and in case you did not see it, the The Mortgage Lender Implode-O-Meter - tracking the housing finance breakdown, related to Alt-A and subprime mortgages, lending fraud, predatory lending, housing bubble, mortgage banking, foreclosures, debt, consolidation, lawyers, class-action lawsuits count just hit 200
Well something is going on. It's now pretty clear no recession in 2007 yet the Fed is obviously nervous. Banks being more troubled than we know is one possible explanation.
The Whitehouse at least seems very nervous and generally pessimistic about the economy. They're already talking about how a recession will affect the budget deficit.
Whether a recession starts in 2007 or 2008 at this point is largely immaterial.
"As goes housing, so goes the economy."
i think Sheila Bairs original industry wide rate freeze proposal and her cart before the horse accusation of investor opposition to Paulson's rate freeze IMO indicates a fear of what may befall the banking system dead ahead.
There's two overlapping issues. One is construction loans, which Floyd said are more of a problem for small banks than large banks. The other is the concentrated exposure that some small/intermediate banks have to condo lending.
Condo lending has become a fiasco, both in the construction phase and selling phase. The construction loans are only taken out when consumers who have signed contracts agree to proceed and take title. But they are cancelling left and right, which leave developers without the means to pay off construction loans, even after projects are completed. Without construction loans retired, the projects can't qualify for permanent financing. So, they are stuck in limbo and will start to default like dominoes.
Condos will get nasty.
Are Plan's Critics Also Investors? - WSJ.com
A top federal bank regulator said some investors who are criticizing the new rescue plan for troubled homeowners also may be placing bets in which they would benefit from a jump in foreclosures.
this chick is a brainless bimbo. altho OTOH she could be quite brilliant spinning it this way. of course critics have bets placed BEFORE this crazy rate freeze proposal and obviously are acting to protect those investments from gov't intervention. what does she expect, investors to stand by and accept losses?
As of 03/01/2008 Fannie Mae will add a 25bp fee across the board to all new mortgages it buys. Full story can be accessed at housingdoom
During the Paulson Q&A on Friday, he was asked: "Do you anticipate bank failures like England saw with Northern Rock?" Paulson gave a non-answer, and the reason is probably because there are several bank failures in the offing.
Given the way this administration is infamous for managing press conferences, is there any doubt that the question were fed towards the 'pat' answers? Or that the selection of questions was carefully chosen? I'd like to know if "Alan from Arizona" currently resides in Arizona or the Beltway.
As Rich alludes to above, construction loans at small banks are not always for commercial work. Almost all homebuilders use construction loans that are closed out when the mortgage is put in place. Almost 100 percent of unsold new homes probably have a construction loan in place. That, taxes and utilities keep ticking away for the builder until the house is sold or until he is buried too deep to recover.
I work in commercial real estate finance for a fund in NYC.
The amazing thing is that a lot of these small banks are picking up the "slack" in terms of CRE loans originations, because most funds, large banks and investment banks stopped writing loans in Q4 (for the most part), as the CDO (i.e. leverage) market disappeared (which also negatively affected the syndication efforts of large/investment banks) and the CMBS (i.e. selling assets) market is a shell of its former self.
The good news is that the banks appear to be writing relatively low leverage loans (and always have), the bad news is that they are writing them at very low spreads relative to the rest of the market, and would have a difficult time selling those loans at par. The other good news is that the Borrower is typically recourse on bank loans, versus the non-recourse CDO/CMBS transactions that made up the bulk of the market prior to the credit crunch.
Re condos, i wouldn't be surprised to see Corus go under just on the basis of their activity in the condo construction market, though I am not familiar with their balance sheet.
My outlook on the national CRE market is negative - the price of a lot of properties were driven up due to high-leverage, cheap financing (made possible by CDO and CMBS execution), and without that financing currently available, I would expect cap rates to rise. This shouldn't be a major issue for the bulk of CRE, but will be for any transaction that relied on cheap, high-leverage financing and a low cap rate to effectuate a sale or refinance (right now, example 1A is Harry Mackowe's purchase of the EOP New York office portfolio).
In wyoming, we just sweep manure under the rug; this is not a bail out in any way, shape of form, its just business!
Legislatively Designated Investments
Individually and collectively, LDIs are a version of economically targeted investing, whose aim it is to improve the economic well-being of the state, its municipalities, and its residents. In most ways, however, LDIs do not appear closely related to one another: some are one-time economic development investments, others are infrastructure improvements, and yet others are ongoing programs. LDIs are also diverse in terms of recipient or beneficiary, financing vehicle, structure, credit terms and conditions, and mechanisms to protect the principal.
What LDIs have in common is the legislatively directed use of state funds to achieve public purposes, often at subsidized rates. Each involves the State Treasurer's Office, which makes the actual investment on behalf of the state.
This report uses certain terms to describe the status of funds associated with LDIs. For most LDIs, statutes or session laws authorize a specific amount of money to be used in connection with a program or project. Within the amount authorized, funds may be deployed in several ways. The portion of funds that an LDI program or project puts to active use is called allocated funds. Some authorized funds may not be actively at work for the program or project, and these are called unobligated funds. Finally, in those programs involving bond guarantees, some or all of the funds may be committed to stand behind the LDIs, while other funds are uncommitted, or not yet required for a guarantee.
Chapter 2: Summary of Individual LDIs
Chapter 2 contains a one-page description of each LDI, with discussion of the history, purpose, and current need for each. Overall, we found that the 26 LDIs have been approved in an ad hoc manner throughout this century, with little consistency in their terms and conditions. The first was authorized in 1907, but the majority have been authorized in the last 17 years, five of them in 1995 alone.
Nine LDIs are direct loans or loan programs, four more involve the purchase of loans, three are bond guarantee programs, eight involve the purchase of bonds, and two are deposit programs. Authorizations range from a low of $2 million to a high of $275 million, although only four LDIs are authorized for $100 million or more. For more detail on the individual LDIs, refer to Chapter 2 of this report.
Chapter 3: Funds Allocate to LDIs Earn Less-Than-Market Returns
LDIs result in lower-than-market returns in two distinct ways. First, as discussed in this chapter, the funds allocated to specific projects and programs are earning comparatively less than funds managed strictly for investment purposes. Second, as explained in Chapter 4, earnings on the funds that are authorized, but not allocated, are also less than market.
Funds allocated to LDIs resulted in forgone ear
Chairman Bair has also said more than once that she thinks things will get worse before they get better. She never says how much worse because even she doesn't have that answer. Ask fomer FDIC Chairman Bill Siedman under contract with CNBC and NEVER asked now about upcoming bank failures. CNBC knows not to go there with Siedman because he is likely to give a Paulson type response or ignore it and move on to some issue he is willing to jabber on about endlessly and with superior glee.
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says residential is about 60 percent of US private construction. Given that it has been dropping, total bank exposure is probably now about 50-50 residential/commercial construction loans. It is pretty easy to imagine the state of much of the residential segment. Very large commercial work is probably not financed through small or medium banks. Smaller commercial projects are financed there. Those smaller projects usually are pretty directly related to housing growth.
Citrons strongest card was his track record. Earnings from the investment pool had been an increasingly important part of the Orange County budget since the late 1970s, leading to a relaxation of the rules surrounding how funds could be invested. In addition to the county itself, municipal entities such as the Orange County cities of Anaheim and Irvine, along with various local government authorities and services, were attracted to the investment pool by the unusually good rates of return it offered.
These investors put money that they raised from taxes and other sources into the pool, in the hope that the cash would grow before they had to spend it on vital public services. Excess returns from the pool were particularly welcome in the early 1990s: the local political environment was set against raising taxes and local government finances were under increasing strain. Some municipal entities even began to borrow money to increase their pool investments. (According to some commentators, the excess returns over the years amounted to hundreds of millions of dollars and, in a limited sense, considerably offset the eventual loss.)
Few municipal investors in the pool quizzed Citron on how he worked his magic, or analysed independently the level of risk he was running to gain excess returns. They took comfort from the fact that Orange County was itself heavily invested in the pool. However, the board of supervisors that acted as the principal oversight for Citrons actions as Orange County treasurer lacked financial sophistication. Orange County also failed to surround Citron with a compensating infrastructure of strict investment policies, risk controls, regular and detailed reporting, and independent oversight. This mattered more and more as the aim of the pool gradually turned towards making, rather than managing, money.
Through the early 1990s, Citron enjoyed his growing importance as someone who conjured up extra money for public services. The amount of public money in the pool grew quickly until in 1994, Citron was investing $7.5 billion in US agency notes of various kinds. He was a popular port of call for salesmen from Wall Streets big brokerage firms, particularly those from securities giant Merrill Lynch. Later, these salesmen would say they were merely servicing an experienced and savvy investor, while Citron would claim he had been misled about the riskiness of the instruments.
One thing is certain: while the pool offered greater returns than those of similar cash management pools, it did so only by taking on more risk. In particular, Citron gambled that medium-term interest-bearing securities would maintain or increase their value. He used various techniques to leverage his $7.5 billion of funds into more than $20 billion of investments so that both the returns and the risks were multiplied.
One way he did this was to enter into contracts known as reverse repurchase agreements, which allowed him to use securities the pool
seller contribution down from 6% to 3% on Fannie My Community/House America
Also cutting out No Ratio and NINA
Wachovia Bank is suing construction mogul Clinton C. Myers, whose company has earned praise for speedy repairs of roads and bridges, alleging that he and some of his other business interests are in default on more than $61 million in loans for the Winchester Country Club he built in Auburn.
The Charlotte, N.C.-based bank filed suit Wednesday in U.S. District Court in Sacramento, seeking to recover the money and other costs.
The 1,000-acre country club opened in 2001. According to the bank's complaint, Myers obtained loans totaling almost $66 million from Wachovia in 2005 to refinance and develop new lots at the country club. Since January 2007, the bank alleges. Myers has failed to meet terms that required that he reduce the amount of principal owed on the loans to certain amounts by certain dates, and still owes $61 million.
Myers could not be reached for comment.
Myers is chief executive of C.C. Myers Inc., a Rancho Cordova company that specializes in highway and bridge construction and has won acclaim and big bonuses for speedy repairs after earthquakes and fires. C.C. Myers Inc. is not a defendant in the suit.
Amen brothers:
Dec 7 (Reuters) - Simon Property Group Inc (SPG.N: Quote, Profile , Research), the largest U.S. mall operator, lowered its forecast for the year on Friday, citing a write-off for its investment in a Phoenix residential joint venture with home builder Toll Brothers Inc (TOL.N: Quote, Profile , Research).
The non-cash impairment, net of tax benefits, will reduce full-year net income available to common share holders by $26 million, or 11 cents a share, to $2.02 per share and funds from operations (FFO) of $5.77 per share.
The new forecast of $5.77 is near the upper end of Simon's original forecast of full-year FFO of $5.70 to $5.80 per share.
Ame
Clayton Holdings Inc. said today that it expects to take a pre-tax, non-cash, impairment charge of between $75 million and $100 million in the fourth quarter of 2007, reflecting the reduced carrying value of goodwill, intangible assets and other long-lived assets of its transaction management business. The goodwill and intangible assets were recorded in 2004 when TA Associates acquired the majority interest in Clayton's due diligence business.
"As we have reported for several quarters, the steep decline in new nonconforming securities issuance has significantly reduced our transaction management revenues. While we are well positioned to benefit from any recovery in this market, internal and industry projections anticipate continued lower levels of MBS/ABS issuance throughout much of 2008 and possibly into 2009," said Frank Filipps, Clayton's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer. "In our last 10-Q and investor call, we noted that our board of directors would retain an independent expert to review the value of the goodwill and intangible assets that we carry on our balance sheet. While these impairment tests have not been completed, the company's board of directors has determined that generally accepted accounting principles will require us to record a non-cash impairment charge during the fourth quarter of 2007. This charge does not affect our cash position, our cash flow from operations or our debt covenants."
After the charge, the carrying value of Clayton's goodwill and other intangible assets will total approximately $38 million to $63 million.
About Clayton Holdings, Inc.
Clayton Holdings, Inc., headquartered in Shelton, Connecticut, is an information and analytics company serving leading capital markets firms, lending institutions, fixed income investors and loan servicers with a full suite of information-based analytics, specialty consulting and outsourced services. Clayton's services include due diligence analytics, conduit support services, professional staffing, compliance products and services, credit risk management and surveillance and specialized loan servicing services.
Los Angeles Times (Naturally)
Offer: Lousy Credit? Buy somebody else's on a PAID OFF loan. (This one will send Tanta to the fridge for a 6pac)
Offer: Lousy credit? Buy somebody else's -- latimes.com
"The slump in the global credit markets will force banks, brokerages and hedge funds to cut lending by $2 trillion, triggering the risk of a 'substantial recession' in the U.S., according to Goldman Sachs Group Inc. Losses related to record U.S. home foreclosurers using a 'back-of-the envelope' calulation may be as high as $400 billion for financial companies, said Jan Hatzius, chief economist at Goldman", Bloomberg, Nov. 18, 2007
December 9, 2007
Cash shortage to keep navy in portMichael Smith
MOST of the Royal Navy will be tied up in dock next year, frozen by a £15 billion black hole in the Ministry of Defence budget over the next decade, writes Michael Smith.
As the MoD fights proposals for £12 billion of defence cuts over the same period, only ships supporting operations in the Gulf will leave port. The soaring cost of operations in Iraq and Afghanistan and the increasing reluctance of the Treasury to fund them is adding to the pressure.
The navy is looking at what options they have because the amount of funding is just not there, one source said. The overheating of the equipment budget is putting pressure on everyone. The only major exercise expected to go ahead is Orion 08, in which the aircraft carrier HMS Illustrious, the destroyer Edinburgh and the frigate Westminster will head for the Gulf, defence sources said
Boston Globe
Long drop - Credit crisis turns market for commerical property from hot to suddenly cold in Boston, across country. (I lived there from '91-'94 and saw first hand how bad it was then)
Credit crisis cools off market for commercial property - The Boston Globe
The bond market has clearly got recession on the brain," Merrill Lynch economist David Rosenberg said in a report this week.
In just six months, bond investors have developed a very dreary mood -- a complete change of heart since June. Then, they were worried about too much growth and inflation, and the yields on 10-year Treasury notes reflected that spirit, touching 5.29 percent. This week, yields dropped to as low as 3.87 percent, as Rosenberg remarked, "Bond yields are melting before our eyes."
On Thursday, yields climbed a bit, to 4 percent.
Rosenberg said the extreme plunge that occurred over just six months is rare and often hints at a recession.
The last time bonds plunged so deeply was 2002, as the economy came close to relapsing into recession, he said. "Before that, it was in the spring of 1986, when the inflation rate melted to 1 percent year over year on the back of $10 a barrel oil price. Before that, we had a decline in late 1983 as the economy was just about to emerge from a nasty recession," he said.
Rosenberg's conclusion: "The Treasury market is thinking that the recession is either already here or just around the corner."
Of course, the quick about-face by bond investors since June indicates that economic conditions are difficult to predict and both stock and bond investors can get them wrong.
But Leuthold Group analyst Patrick Magnusson also noted this week that the bond market has been reliable in predicting economic weakness and the conditions that ultimately force the Federal Reserve to cut rates.
At the end of November, the two-year Treasury note was trading at a yield of 3 percent, versus the federal funds rate of 4.5 percent. And whenever the two-year note has been below the fed funds rate, the Fed has eventually dropped rates.
The idea is to make money cheaper to borrow so that consumers and businesses spend and give the economy a boost.
Still, what presumably ails the economy most is a deep housing recession -- one of the worst since the Depression.
Douglas Duncan, economist for the Mortgage Bankers Association, said Thursday that he does not think the home foreclosure rate will peak until next year's third quarter.
And lower interest rates won't necessarily fix the housing market because the main driver of slumping prices is an excessive number of homes and what were unusually high prices in some markets after years of speculation and overbuilding. Recently, the situation has been aggravated by a slowdown in lending.
Duncan said he thinks housing will start recovering after the third quarter, but that assumes that the economy does not become so weak that people lose jobs and can't buy homes.
In May 2006, the Federal Reserve decided it would no longer publish M3. The cynics among us believe this is a deliberate effort to keep the true inflation rate unknown from the general public. It should, however, be remembered that the smartest people don't work for the government, but for private enterprise. Therefore, a group of economists developed a formula to track M3 because of its usefulness in predicting inflation. Their results are published on a Web site called nowandfutures.com for anyone who has need for the information.
A recent look shows that M3 is growing at an annual rate of almost 18 percent. The highest growth rate in the last inflation cycle in 1980 was 14 percent. The government, via the Federal Reserve, controls money growth. Sometimes it grows fast and sometimes it grows slow, but it always grows.
Bank credit is another subject. Bank credit can both grow and contract, which presents a whole new equation when trying to track inflation. Because we have a fractional reserve banking system in the country, the banks have an enormous effect on the supply of money. If you don't understand fractional reserve banking, I don't have the space to explain it. In simple terms, as banks make credit available, they in effect make money available. However, in the case of massive loan defaults such as the subprime mortgage mess we are now experiencing, money is removed from the banking system causing the reverse of inflation, or deflation. The result today is that the Federal Reserve is creating money at a high rate to offset the effects of the subprime mortgage collapse.
Why would the government try to disguise the money growth and therefore inflation? The simple reason is that it saves them money. During the Clinton administration and continued by the Bush administration, the Department of Labor changed the method of calculation, Consumer Price Index, which they argue is equivalent to inflation. These changes included the power of substitution and something called hedonics (the theory of better value). An example would be that if the price of steak goes up, they substitute hamburger. An example of hedonics would be that if you buy a car with more features, even though you paid more, they calculate it cost you less because of the new features.
The effects of these tricks are reduced, government cost for social benefits tied to a cost of living. As an example the annual outlays for Social Security benefits are approximately $657 billion per year. If a true inflation adjustment were used, Social Security benefits would be $200 billion higher.
Toledo News Paper | Toledo Ohio
Tanta may have to take a look at a post on Big Picture to elaborate about the signifigance of another judge's ruling on a securitization's shitty paper. Appears to be a unopposed bankruptcy motion where a judge stepped in without prodding to challenge shitty paper. From the comments it appears some are saying that the securitization's lein might be in trouble due to their shitty paper making them an unsecured creditor in the bankruptcy. What's that do to the value of these things???
Asia Times Commentary on the U.S.& world economy
Asia Times Online :: Asian news and current affairs - Tight 'money'
Asia Times Online :: Asian news and current affairs - The shock of a thousand trillion
That was kinda fun?
Now and the Future
Financial ratios
The key financial ratio used to analyze fractional-reserve banks is the cash reserve ratio, which is the ratio of reserves to demand deposits and notes. For example this could be 10%, which would mean the bank has 10% reserves for all funds deposited at the bank, with the remaining 90% used for loans. Term deposits such as certificate of deposit are ignored when calculating this ratio because the bank only needs reserves to pay the term deposit at its maturity, and not during its term. Many Countries have even gone to a zero-reserve banking system, as Canada did in 1991. The opposite of zero-reserve banking would be full-reserve banking.
The 'reserves' part of the reserve ratio can be most narrowly defined as legal tender, i.e. assets that can be directly paid out as withdrawals and do not have to be exchanged or sold. However, banks and financial analysts use other liquidity ratios and methods to measure and monitor liquidity in order to capture other cash outflows and sources of liquidity (such as early redemptions of term deposits, and lines of credit with other banks, respectively).
Possible confusion
The reserve ratio should not be confused with the capital ratio, which is the ratio of the bank's capital to its assets. The capital of a bank includes the net worth of the bank (assets less liabilities), and subordinated debt, which ranks behind the claims of general depositors and other unsecured creditors, and thereby provides similar protection from loss. The capital ratio is adjusted by risk-weighting the assets of the bank, and the result is called the risk-adjusted capital ratio.
Fractional-reserve banking - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In a fractional reserve banking economy, where money only has value through government fiat, banks create money as a book entry. They can lend pretty much as much as they like (literally creating money), as long as they maintain their capital adequacy ratios. The whole danger of the CDO-system is that capital adequacy has become irrelevant and there is no limit to the amount of lending that can be made, i.e. money that can be printed. I agree with you philosophically that this has no value but tell that to the people who invested $1.2bn in the two Bear Stearns funds! Tell that to the person you buy a house from when the transfer comes from the building society and he says thats not real money! Tell that to the checkout girl at Tesco when you get your debit card out to pay for your groceries. Unfortunately, this IS real money and banks manufacture it. I dont like it either, but unfortunately, we have to live with it.
In terms of the CDO funds that are rapidly losing value, think of them as a kind of insurance contract they did have value once, but now the risk they insured against has come to pass (a collapse in the US sub-prime mortgage market), they are now essentially valueless. This does not mean they didnt once serve a purpose, but unfortunately, because the people who packaged them, sold them and those that invested in them didnt really understand the risk, these selfish and greedy people now threaten the whole financial system. Bear Stearns essentially borrowed 25 times their investor capital to provide insurance against a collapse in the US housing market.
The primary problem, as always is leverage unwinding of leveraged positions destroys value, as things that do still have value/utility get sold down in the rush for cash. If you cant sell what you want to, sell what you can is an old market adage.
This means that in a rush for the exits, as speculators sell down assets to pay off their borrowing, all assets fall in price. This could be shares in the South Sea Company in 1720, shares of Radio Corporation of America in 1929 as margin calls hit the market, it could be CDOs today as hedge funds and investment banks need to reduce their leverage, or it could be 2 bedroom flats in Manchester as buy-to-let investors cant refinance their mortgage. Whatever form it takes, de-leverging destroys value in a vicious downward spiral and lots of people, not just economists, lament that.
BBC - Peston's Picks: Are markets hurricane-proof?
Looks like a good zone over here and on topic mates!
BBC - Peston's Picks
Rock in the zone
Robert Peston 7 Dec 07, 10:15 AM Northern Rock has been advised by its lawyers that its in the zone of liquidation.
Which sounds scary, but its really just a statement of the bloomin obvious, in that the Rock cannot fund its operations from normal commercial sources and is in hock to the taxpayers to the tune of £25.5bn.
The significance of being in that unappetising zone is that the board has to put the interests of its creditors ahead of those of its shareholders.
And thats why the board cannot simply approve Olivants rescue plan, even though Olivants scheme is much friendlier to the interests of shareholders than the takeover proposal from a consortium led by Sir Richard Branson and Virgin.
Or to put it another way, ultimately itll be up to the chancellor as proxy for the lead creditor, all of us to decide what happens to the Rock.
Yeah, this pretty much sums it up:
The Fed receives too much credit for the "efficacy" of past easing cycles... The evolving securitization markets and government-sponsored enterprises were the key mechanisms driving system credit expansion when the banking system was severely impaired back in 1991/92. By 1993, the blossoming leveraged speculating community had become a major force, taking highly leveraged positions in US (and Mexican!) debt securities, in the process significantly augmenting system credit availability and marketplace liquidity. By the time of the "Asian Contagion" and the Russian/Long Term Capital Management crisis, leveraged speculation throughout the (global) debt markets had become a prevailing source of system credit and liquidity creation.
Having first nurtured "Wall Street finance" to buck the banking system "headwinds" early in the '90s, by the end of the decade Fed accommodation had fashioned the most powerful "reflationary" tool in the history of central banking. Simply tinker with rates or signal lower prospective market yields and the enterprising speculators would quickly lever up on risky debt instruments on demand. Never had it been so easy for a central bank to incite "animal spirits" and stimulate credit and liquidity. The hedge funds, Wall Street firms and, increasingly over time, myriad global financial players forged the maestros "genius", the American economic "miracle", and synchronized global asset and economic booms. In any case, the leveraged speculating community has been the force behind US bubble economy dynamics including $800 billion current account deficits, negative savings rates, destabilizing asset bubbles, and so-called economic "resiliency".
I think the Fed is now in an almost impossible situation because their only effective "tool" has turned into an out-of-control beast. They want to tame it, not kill it. But now that it's got a taste of freedom it's never going back in the cage so long as it has a pulse.
Everybody's been conditioned to gamble for a living and nobody wants to work.
It's their right not to have to.
Asia Times Online :: Asian news and current affairs - Tight 'money'
You know whats so bloody interesting, the fact that we Yanks dont even notice The Bank Of England bailing out Rock, because we are so busy here watching Bush & Paulson bail out our subprime/CDO/SIV/Pension meltdown; this is a global problem which gets worse daily, as it moves from spot to spot, bank to bank!
Alistair Darlings priority apart from maintaining the stability of the financial system and protecting depositors is making sure that we, as taxpayers, get our money back.
And whats scary for him (and, frankly, for all of us) is that conditions in money markets are as bad as anyone can remember.
Virgin is no longer confident it can raise a jumbo loan of £11bn to repay a chunk of taxpayer-backed loans from the Bank of England which currently total £25.5bn.
In theory, that undermines the Virgin proposal.
Except that Olivant too cannot give a cast-iron guarantee that it would be able to raise a comparable sum. All it can offer is hope that it will be able to repay somewhere between £10bn and £15bn within the next two or three months.
The Treasury had wanted to make a decision on the Rocks future by mid December which in reality means by the end of next week.
The options have narrowed to nationalisation versus two potential commercial solutions that are not yet wholly nailed down.
How is the chancellor to make a rational choice when money markets are so unstable?
What he needs to think about, and fast, is whether he genuinely believes the Rock is a going concern.
If it is, then theres no ambiguity about what he should do.
Anonymous,
If you have time to shower us with the posts (appreciated), can you also take the time to choose a pseudonymn?
Folks around here tend to treat the source of posts as an important piece of info.
the news is that iran has stopped pricing its oil exports in $$. will venezuela soon follow? impact on the dollar
http://www.zawya.com/Story.cfm/sidANA107342101926/SecMarkets/pagMoney
OT:
Actually anon, most of England is watching or otherwise blog-following the Hatton Mayweather fight - another one in the long line of Great British hopes, starting with ( in my lifetime) 'Our 'Enery then jack Bodell, Joe Bugner, Bruno.. who was that Frank geezer somewhere in between..
btw its round 6 / 12 and expat or not, I don't rate Hatton's chances at this time.
(Watch me eat crow !).
-K
As I was reading the following post, it occured to me that much of this Subprime Flu, which I really think is more like an advanced case of Colony Collapse Disorder, will resolve itself through simple honesty and accounting, because, money has to go somewhere to be safe. Thus, the banks that continue to play with credit enhancement derivatives and leverage risk to a point of chaos will simply destroy capital and customer approval, i.e., they will die on the vine, while banks that are in the business of "honest" lending that pursue risk management models that are not based on super computer finacial engineering and tax evasion -- will survive and thrive.
Im not sure if bees are over-leverged, but CCD is chaotic and symptomatic of stressed conditions, which might be somewhat related to a new model by Penrose:
Re: For example, Roger Penrose has argued that a cyclic model may be necessary to explain how the universe is compatible with the second law of thermodynamics, one of the most fundamental dictums of physics. According to the second law, entropy (the amount of disorder) always increases. Since the inflationary model creates an enormous amount of entropy, the universe must have begun with very little before inflation.
Now, back to supply and demand and why money will flee to safety, like bees to honey:
Worried savers money has to go somewhere. And both individuals and companies appear to have identified RBS as a safe haven.
RBSs statement says that it has experienced strong deposit growth. And I understand that more than £800m of additional liquidity has gushed into its accounts over the past few months.
At a time when the rates charged by banks for lending to each other is hitting record levels, this inflow of deposits represents cheap money.
So unlike Alliance & Leicester which recently warned of a squeeze in net profit margins RBSs profit margins are improving. Which may, to an extent, offset the expected slowdown in the US and UK economies next year.
RBS has another advantage over banks with a predominantly UK focus. Its been able to tap the generous liquidity provided by the European Central Bank and the Federal Reserve.
The bank has therefore been less vulnerable to the perceived structural shortage of liquid funds in the sterling money market for which the Bank of Englands conservative approach to the provision of cash to the banking system has been widely blamed.
But lets not get carried away here.
RBS has been bashed by the debacle in structured finance and in the US sub-prime market.
In the second half of 2007, it has incurred write-downs of £950m on its holdings of assorted securities created from loans to US homebuyers with dodgy credit histories.
At the bit of the Dutch bank ABN which it has bought, there are anticipated write-downs of £300m.
And theres a further £250m impairment charge on RBSs holdings of loans made to private-equity buyouts.
Not nice, but a lo
SF Chronicle references Tanta:
Loan bailout is not likely to help many homeowners
In one breath, Mr. Bush warned he would use his veto power to stop Congress from over-spending, while in the next he fought -- alas, successfully -- to protect hedge fund managers and buyout partners from having to pay the same tax rate that millions of ordinary taxpayers must pay. Several of these fund managers are billionaires, others are multimillionaires. Yet the White House not only fought to keep their income tax rate at the capital gains level of 15 percent, but also, incredibly, to borrow $51 billion to make up for the revenue lost by this preferential tax treatment.
That $51 billion could have been recouped if only the Senate had had the courage last week to make the hedge fund millionaires pay their fair share. Instead, Democrats caved and joined with Republicans in voting to freeze the alternative minimum tax, without providing any way to replace the $50 billion that will be lost to the Treasury. The freeze is justified to protect middle class taxpayers from a levy intended to apply only to the very wealthy. But refusing to recoup the lost revenue isn't justified; it's irresponsible. Regrettably, the House, which has insisted on making hedge fund pay higher taxes, seems ready to go along with the Senate.
As The New York Times has pointed out, in addition to Head Start, the spending bill vetoed by Mr. Bush would have provided funds for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, college financial aid, mine safety, cancer research and other valuable programs. Mr. Bush said the bill exceeded prudent spending limits by $12 billion. He had urged Congress to cut $7 billion from these programs next year, but instead, the lawmakers increased the spending total by $5 billion.
At least one billionaire, Warren Buffett, recognizes the absurdity of the Bush position. He has candidly acknowledged that his tax rate is lower than that paid by the people who work for him and who aren't nearly as well off as he. The disparity has shamed him to the point of speaking out. But where is Mr. Bush's sense of fairness? Where is his sense of proportion? Where's his sense of shame?
Mr. Bush's double talk -- Page 1 -- Times Union - Albany NY
As I was reading the following post, it occured to me that much of this Subprime Flu, which I really think is more like an advanced case of Colony Collapse Disorder, will resolve itself through simple honesty and accounting, because, money has to go somewhere to be safe. Thus, the banks that continue to play with credit enhancement derivatives and leverage risk to a point of chaos will simply destroy capital and customer approval, i.e., they will die on the vine, while banks that are in the business of "honest" lending that pursue risk management models that are not based on super computer finacial engineering and tax evasion -- will survive and thrive.
However you dice it there's one fundamental overarching problem that's not going to go away:
Runaway credit expansion has created the illusion of wealth that does not actually exist.
People and businesses have been trading in real wealth for these wealth illusions, not recognizing them for what they are. In effect they have been working and not getting properly compensated for it, while clever speculators run off with the spoils of labor they didn't perform.
In the past these wealth illusions have always been discovered, and when that happens there's a "panic" and then hell to pay in the aftermath as people lose faith in the system that "robbed" them. Productivity declines as cooperation turns into conflict and lethargy and disillusionment overcome workers and businesses.
Nobody has come up with an easy way out of this problem because there is no way to make these wealth illusions real.
We learned earlier this week in a court filing that the prosecution plans to ask Buffett to the witness stand.
That means there's a possibility (not a certainty by any means) that both sides may be looking to Buffett to testify in the case.
At issue: whether five executives, including General Re's former CFO Elizabeth Monrad, orchestrated a deal that illegally pumped up American International Group's reserves. General Re is a subsidiary of Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway holding company.
Gasparino quotes Monrad's attorney, Reid Weingarten, as saying Buffett's testimony might be helpful because the Omaha billionaire knew about the transaction at the heart of the case and didn't try to stop it. That would be portrayed as supporting Monrad's argument that there was nothing illegal about the deal.
See previous case: KR Dublin refers to Cologne Re, which eventually took part in the transaction. According to the note, Mr. Brandon also suggested "funds withheld," a method of accounting for some reinsurance transactions that was also eventually employed by General Re in accounting for the AIG deal.
Analysis and Commentary: One has to ask how a seasoned financial person like Mr. Buffett would accept large deposits from another insurance company without knowing their fundamental character. Knowing this would be essential in terms of establishing an interest rate based upon expected maturity, etc.
While many speculate on why Buffett allowed these transactions to occur, my feeling is that he is trying to disguise the reality that General RE's goodwill is impaired and should be written down by at least $6 billion. The notion that a small spread between what Berkshire paid to have these deposits from companies like AIG and the spread on its investments was the primary reason seems a bit naive.
Each of the defendants was aware that the true purpose of the transactions was to permit A.I.G. to report and record loss reserves it did not really have to calm analyst criticism of A.I.G.'s reduction in loss reserves in the third quarter of 2000," the Justice Department said in a statement accompanying the indictment.
The S.E.C. also filed civil charges today, but it did not cite Mr. Brandon. Instead it named the four former insurance executives facing the criminal charges plus Christopher Garand, the former head of General Re's finite reinsurance operation.
The five were charged with securities fraud in connection with what the agency called a "sham transaction." They could face financial penalties, if convicted, and could be barred from becoming an executive or director of a public company.
A.I.G. has previously acknowledged that its transactions with General Re were improper. Regulators and prosecutors have characterized the deals as an effort by A.I.G. to make its financial statements appear more robust than they actually were. A.I.G. forced Mr. Greenberg, a strong-willed and detail-oriented executive, to r
If you want to see a bank failure looming, look at CIBC of Canada. If it goes it will take out the ACA monoline along with it.
I really hate Buffy, but... here is, offering you those sweet gems;
FAIRFAX FINANCIAL HOLDINGS LIMITEDTo Our Shareholders:Our biblical seven lean years are over. 2006 was an excellent year for Fairfax
http://www.fairfax.ca/Assets/Downloads/070309ceo.pdf
Finally, we continue to worry about the unprecedented issuance of collateralized bonds,mortgages and loans (we hold none!). The assumption in the marketplace is that structurewill eliminate or significantly reduce all risks. So a portfolio of 100% non-investment gradebonds, sub-prime mortgages or non-investment grade corporate loans, by sophisticatedstructuring, can transform into securities of which 80% or more are rated A or above. This hasresulted in thousands of collateralized bond issues being rated AAA while fewer than10 corporations in the U.S. are AAA! We see an explosion coming but unfortunately cannotpredict when. As Grants Interest Rate Observer said in its December 15, 2006 issue, Blame forthe distress at the fringes of subprime, we judge, cannot be laid at the feet of the U.S. economy.It should, rather, attach to the lenders and borrowers who piled debt on debt until the edificesways even in a dead calm.Our concerns about the U.S. financial markets are why we continue to protect our shareholdersfrom a 1 in 50 or 1 in 100 year event. With about half our equity exposure hedged against theS&P 500 (there are some basis risks as our stock positions are worldwide), our investment of$276 million in credit default swaps (with a notional value of $13.1 billion), andapproximately 78% of our investment portfolios consisting of government bonds and cash, wefeel that we have effectively protected our investment portfolios from a potential (though lowprobability) financial market disaster.Last year, we gave you a treatise on credit default swaps. In 2006, as spreads narrowed evenfurther, we lost $87.1 million on these swaps! Since our original purchase, we have lost 74% of our original investment of $276 million. Fortunately, these losses are predominantly only on amark-to-market basis. On average, we still have four years left on the swaps. As this goes topress, spreads have begun to widen considerably and we have recouped some of our mark-to-market losses. Also, we continued to maintain our S&P 500 hedges in 2006. Those hedges costus $159.0 million in 2006, and $296.0 million cumulatively since 2004. However, if not forthose hedges, we would not feel comfortable having approximately $2.3 billion in equities.Some of you have wondered sometimes loudly why we bother with these hedges and creditdefault swaps. Besides our comfort in having this protection, we continue to think that thisinsurance policy may pay dividends perhaps sooner than you think!
Yah, that was nice...yah know, from a news standpoint!
Dec. 7 (Bloomberg) -- Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce may take additional writedowns of as much as C$2 billion ($1.99 billion), bringing costs from the subprime mortgage collapse to C$3 billion, topping its record losses from Enron Corp.
Canada's fifth-biggest lender said yesterday it has about $9.9 billion in hedged derivatives contracts tied to subprime mortgages that may face ``significant'' future losses. That could result in writedowns of about C$1.7 billion over the next year, TD Newcrest analyst Jason Bilodeau said today. Ian de Verteuil at BMO Capital Markets said the additional writedowns may reach C$2 billion.
This has the potential to materially impact CIBC's capital levels,'' Dundee Securities Corp. analyst John Aiken said today in a telephone interview.What the charge will ultimately be is contingent on a whole multitude of variables.''
The costs may reduce Canadian Imperial's earnings in fiscal 2008 and hurt the stock, which yesterday had its biggest one-day decline in more than two years. Canadian Imperial fell C$2.85, or 3.5 percent, to C$79.55 at 4:10 p.m. trading on the Toronto Stock Exchange. Canadian Imperial is the worst performing bank stock in Canada this year, down 19 percent.
"The risk/return characteristics of these businesses were not consistent with our expectations or the strategic framework we have set for CIBC, a framework we intend to vigorously adhere to," he said. "We also intend to place additional emphasis on building capital strength, which we believe to be prudent given the uncertainty of the current market conditions."
This capital, which would normally be earmarked for a possible U.S. retail acquisition, will now double as a cushion against potential writedowns. CIBC said yesterday it would take an additional $225-million in charges in the month of November on its unhedged exposure exposure that is not insured against losses bringing the total so far on that portfolio to $978-million. The far bigger worry, though, is on the $9.8-billion hedged book, especially given the uncertain financial health of U.S. bond insurers who provide these hedging contracts.CIBC said almost half of its $9.8-billion in hedged exposure is spread across five triple-A-rated financial guarantors, and has purchased an additional $420-million of protection against this group. A further 18 per cent is with two double-A insurers.
What investors are focusing on, however, is $3.5-billion worth of exposure that is thought to be hedged with ACA. These assets have already declined by half in value, meaning that ACA would owe CIBC $1.7-billion. These assets have likely deteriorated even further in recent months, and the question now is how much, if any, money will ACA be able to pay.
"How does CIBC get this big of an exposure in the first place?" asked another analyst. "And why $3.5-billion to one counterparty? These are two massive mistakes, and they're going to pay the price."
Nouriel missed Bush & Paulson I guess; the contagion is a done deal, the virus is stamped out (embed here>>>picture of Bush trying to kick burning toilet paper off his shoes, which is attached to flaming dog feces):
Re RGE: The bloodbath in credit and financial markets will continue and sharply worsen
Nouriel Roubini | Nov 05, 2007
It is now clear that the delusional hope that the severe credit and liquidity crunch that hit US and global financial markets would ease has been shattered by the events of the last few weeks. This credit crunch is getting much worse and its financial and real fallout will be severe.
The amount of losses that financial institutions have already recognized - $20 billion is just the very tip of the iceberg of much larger losses that will end up in the hundreds of billions of dollars. At stake in subprime alone is about a trillion of sub-prime related RMBS and hundreds of billions of mortgage related CDOs. But calling this crisis a sub-prime meltdown is ludicrous as by now the contagion has seriously spread to near prime and prime mortgages. And it is spreading to subprime and near prime credit cards and auto loans where deliquencies are rising and will sharply rise further in the year ahead. And it is spreading to every corner of the securitized financial system that is either frozen or on the way to freeze: CDOs issuance is near dead; the LBO market and the related leveraged loans market is piling deals that have been postponed, restructured or cancelled; the liquidity squeeze in the interbank market especially at the one month to three months maturities - is continuing; the losses that banks and investment banks will experience in the next few quarters will erode their Tier 1 capital ratio; the ABCP and related SIV sectors are near dead and unraveling; and since the Super-conduit will flop the only options are those of bringing those SIV assets on balance sheet (with significant capital and liquidity effects) or sell them at a large loss; similar problems and crunches are emerging in the CLO, CMO and CMBS markets; junk bonds spreads are widening and corporate default rates will soon start to rise. Every corner of the securitization world is now under severe stress, including so called highly rated and safe (AAA and AA) securities.
Fun page:
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Dec 8 (Reuters) - German Finance Minister Peer Steinbrueck said the United States regarded the economic situation as more critical now than it did several months ago, a German newspaper reported on Saturday.
Steinbrueck predicted that the current banking crisis would probably continue in 2008, although he declined to predict whether a credit crunch would hit Germany as well.
"I simply don't know. What I see is significantly increased mistrust in interbank trade," he said in an interview in Germany's Boersen Zeitung
"My colleagues in the USA view the situation as more critical than they did three or four months ago," Steinbrueck said.
Last one tonight:
On Thursday, MBIA declared a regular quarterly dividend of 34 cents per share on its common stock. The dividend is payable Jan. 15 2008 to shareholders of record as of Dec. 21.
Friedman, Billings, Ramsey analyst Steve Stelmach told Forbes.com recently that the issue for Ambac over the past few weeks has been whether the New York-based bond insurer is appropriately valuing its CDO portfolio as credit ratings on the securities have plummeted. CDOs, or collateralized debt obligations, are securities backed by a pool of bonds, loans or other assests, where investors buy slices classified by varying levels of debt or credit risk. (See " Ambac Investors Sweat A Little More")
Ambac management has recently been making its case to the public as to why the situation is not as bad as it seems, holding conferences and issuing rebuttals. (See Ambac Talks Back)
The collapse of the subprime mortgage market in recent months has created a domino effect in which investments like CDOs have lost much of their value, and subsequently the companies that hold them have had to incorporate those declines onto their books.
From tues: In an uncommon move, Ambac Financial (nyse: ABK - news - people ) issued a rebuttal to a report issued Friday by Morgan Stanley that painted a very cautious picture of the financial guaranty industry in general, and Ambac in particular.
As the credit market continues to weaken, Analyst Ken Zerbe wrote, our confidence that the guarantors will survive the credit meltdown is waning, prompting us to take a more conservative view of the financial guarantors.
More importantly, Zerbe increased his loss expectations for Ambac to $3.5 billion, with $2.1 billion in losses on collateralized debt obligations (CDOs). On its CDO exposures, he revised his estimate to a loss rate of 15%, up from 13%, based on trading levels of subprime asset-backed securities.
For the most part, the New York City-based companys rebuttal expressed only a difference of opinion. The company said that it stood by its assessment of itself, while identifying specific points where it took exception to Zerbes analysis.
We are confident in the quality of our internal credit ratings process, Ambac said, we have been very transparent to the market and our investors by disclosing significant detail in our direct mortgage and CDO exposure in our various public disclosures.
One point of inconsistency between the companys rebuttal and Zerbes analysis centers on the use of the ABX index as a standard of assessment.
The ABX index represents a basket of credit default swaps on high-risk subprime mortgages and home-equity loans. Investors buy ABX swaps to hedge on the risk of default on the underlying mortgages. If the index falls, it indicates that investors expect losses to increase on high-risk mortgages.
The company took exception to Zerbes expectation that CDO losses would increase, saying that Zerbe had assumed t
risk based pricing:
Mortgage Grapevine: Will FHA follow suit?
OCTANS III CDO - Notice of Event of Default
| Reuters
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Reference is hereby made to that certain Indenture dated as of December 6, 2006 (the Indenture), among OCTANS III CDO, LTD., as Issuer, OCTANS III CDO, CORP, as Co-Issuer, and The Bank of New York Trust Company, National Association, in its capacity as trustee (the Trustee). Capitalized terms used herein and not otherwise defined shall have the meanings assigned to such terms in the Indenture.
Pursuant to Section 6.2 of the Indenture, the Trustee hereby provides notice of an Event of Default under Section 5.1(
of the Indenture because on the Determination Date occurring on December 3, 2007 (a) the Net Outstanding Portfolio Balance on such Determination Date plus the MVS Account Excess as of such Determination Date was less than (b) the sum of the Remaining Unfunded Notional Amount plus the Outstanding Swap Counterparty Amount plus the Aggregate Outstanding Amount of the Class A Notes.
If an Event of Default occurs and is continuing, a Majority of the Controlling Class may direct the Trustee, by notice to the Co-Issuers and the Trustee, to (A) declare the principal of all of the Secured Notes to be immediately due and payable, and upon any such declaration such principal, together with all accrued and unpaid interest thereon, and other amounts payable under the Indenture, including any Senior Loan Swap Installment, shall become immediately due and payable and (B) terminate the Reinvestment Period
July 23 (Reuters) - Standard & Poor's on Monday said it may cut $1.76 billion in collateralized debt obligations backed by asset backed debt, citing exposure to residential mortgages that have undergone downgrades.
S&P said it may cut 33 CDO pieces, taken from eight deals that package asset-backed securities, or a combination of ABS and ABS derivatives. Seven of the eight deals were created in 2006, and one was originated in 2007, the rating agency said.
All of the affected CDO transactions have exposure to U.S. residential mortgage-backed securities (RMBS) backed by first-lien subprime mortgages.
The deals under review are all so-called mezzanine rated paper, which are backed by "A" and "BBB" rated tranches of residential mortgage backed securities and other structured finance securities, S&P said.
The deals that have tranches under review include Arca Funding 2006-II Ltd., Auriga CDO Ltd., Cetus ABS CDO 2006-2 Ltd., Gemstone CDO VII Ltd., GSC ABS CDO 2006-4u, Octans III CDO Ltd. and Ischus Synthetic ABS CDO 2006-2 Ltd.
Octans I Cdo Ltd
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had to get this in!
Montrose Harbor CDO I, LTD
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M3 is unrelated to inflation, it's essentially useless. Of course that would be nice if they continue to publish it just to give some brain food to some PhD hopefuls, maybe they can use it in some research.
"The ticking time bomb in the U.S. banking system is not resetting subprime mortgage rates. The real problem is the contractual ability of investors in mortgage bonds to require banks to buy back the loans at face value if there was fraud in the origination process.
And, to be sure, fraud is everywhere. It's in the loan application documents, and it's in the appraisals. There are e-mails and memos floating around showing that many people in banks, investment banks and appraisal companies - all the way up to senior management - knew about it."
MORTGAGE MELTDOWN / Interest rate 'freeze' - the real story is fraud / Bankers pay lip service to families while scurrying to avert suits, prison
%P = %M + %V - %Y
Inflation (%P) is equal to the rate of money growth (%M), plus the change in velocity (%V), minus the rate of output growth (%Y).[6]
Money supply - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Europeans use the money supply to calculate their inflation, theroxy. It is an interesting and I believe whole look at the concept.
We look at consumption, that basket of goods which doesn't include house prices but the proxy OER (devoid of the speculative component...and removed from the reality of the actual cost and the pressures that high house prices have put on other spending).
Our narrow view of inflation excludes investment of any sort even though a ton of money is printed for those causes.
It is almost an ideological divide --not merely a financial strategy for undervaluing inflation to keep government "inflation-protected" payments unprotected from commodity inflation, but also a partial measure of the economy (missing the manager's pay and the growing "financial" portion entirely) refusing to examine anything more than the consumer and his behavior as a worker --fuggedabout his (paltry) investments and especially the other non-paltry investments. It reminds me of anthropological studies: the consumers are the case study, the managers conduct the study.
why are the prices going up? why is there inflation? because there is more money created than goods and services produced?
Safety in numbers?
Accountants seek guidance on bank debt
By Helen Power
Last Updated: 12:40am GMT 09/12/2007
Britain's biggest accountants have held a crisis meeting with the Government to ask it how to value billions of pounds of debt stuck on UK banks' balance sheets by the credit crunch.
The move comes as the so-called Big Four accountants prepare to provide the first true independent assessment of the scale of financial contagion among the UK banks since the credit crunch began.
In an unprecedented move PricewaterhouseCoopers, KPMG, Deloitte and Ernst & Young met officials from the Financial Services Authority late on Friday afternoon to plead with the regulator to sanction a common valuation code in an attempt to push some of the responsibility for quantifying banks' liabilities on to the Government.
Accountants seek guidance on bank debt - Telegraph
CR:
The Europeans use the money supply to calculate their inflation, theroxy. It is an interesting and I believe whole look at the concept.
We look at consumption, that basket of goods which doesn't include house prices but the proxy OER (devoid of the speculative component...and removed from the reality of the actual cost and the pressures that high house prices have put on other spending).
It would be intersting to have a post about inflation:
what is excluded from core (just home prices?)
is rent part of the inflation ? othjer house realted expense ?
and what about the non core ? has it for the first time ever become a non-cyclical and actuall jump in food and energy prices ?
This is a great post. I have a list of the banks with the highest ratio of construction loans to capital in my office. I dont recall too many of the large money center banks being too exposed, but some of the large regionals were very exposed. I recall Fifth Third being on the list but not at the top.
Run on the REIT:
UBS stops withdrawals from real estate funds-paper
| Reuters
Run on property funds as buildings fail to sell - Telegraph
It was the case that the price level in 1929 was not much different, on net, from what it had been in 1800. But, in the two decades following the abandonment of the gold standard in 1933, the consumer price index in the United States nearly doubled. And, in the four decades after that, prices quintupled. Monetary policy, unleashed from the constraint of domestic gold convertibility, has allowed a persistent over issuance of money. As recently as a decade ago, central bankers, having witnessed more than a half-century of chronic inflation, appeared to confirm that a fiat currency was inherently subject to excess." Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan before the Economic Club of New York, New York City December 19, 2002 "Issues for Monetary Policy"
ac,
That was a tremendous link, especially the Fed signaling to the risk-loves.
Perhaps I am just nostalgic, but didn't the fed use surprise hikes in the old days to shock the system to keep the leveraged community off balance? Maybe it was just Volcker.
Paulson headed to Alcatraz according to SF Chronicle. Already referenced by Yal, but a must read:
MORTGAGE MELTDOWN / Interest rate 'freeze' - the real story is fraud / Bankers pay lip service to families while scurrying to avert suits, prison
From the San Francisco Chronicle link above:
Those selling the "freeze" have suggested that mortgage-backed securities investors will benefit because they lose more with rising foreclosures. But with fast-depreciating collateral, the last thing investors in mortgage bonds ought to do is put off foreclosures. Rate freezes are at best a tool for delaying the inevitable foreclosures when even the most optimistic forecasters expect home prices to fall. In October, Goldman Sachs issued a report forecasting an incredible 35 to 40 percent drop in California home prices in the coming few years. To minimize losses, a mortgage bondholder would obviously be better off foreclosing on a home before prices plunge.
Tanta and CR know better, but still...how can these servicers avoid lawsuits when they are clearly acting in their own interest as opposed to the investors'?
Look, the Plan's mod criteria is predictive of nothing. We all agree on that, right? The servicers will argue that non-predicitve criteria is still "the best agreed-upon practice", and that their actions are within the PSA terms. In reality they chose the criteria that minimizes their costs!
Is this much ado about nothing? I don't think so.
You see, these mods benefit servicers and a subset of investors that cannot stomach write downs. The latter of course includes the servicers' parent companies (I'm talkin' about you, Countrywide!).
Think of it as the ranchers, their bankers, and their crony sherriff "fencing in" the sheep herders' land. This is just the first battle, folks. Its pschological, as they are testing the waters to see if they can pull it off. If the townsfolk just lay down and take this one, the ranchers will steal more and more as the cycle wears on.
"...how can these servicers avoid lawsuits when they are clearly acting in their own interest as opposed to the investors'? "
Question is what is the investor suing for? Can they claim that the servicer is too slow in doing work out with borrower and hence their investment pool loss money? And how can they prove that doing an old fashion workout is going to be better (NPV-wise) than this plan and hence they were injured (and by how much?)? And if the servicer has the same policy servicing their own mortgage, what leg will the lawsuit stand on?
The point is that none of these pooled loans that investors bought would withstand discovery in a lawsuit. If just one judge rules "Buy 'em back at par" the floodgates open. I suspect that's why there is a rush to do quick and dirty re-negotiated loans with the borrowers most likely to have lied. If they can do the mods fast enough the servicers can claim the bad loans with falsified information have been replaced with verified loans even if they are every bit as bad an investment.
Heres my bailout rescue plan:
Fed lowers rates a few times, resulting in 30 year mortgage rate of 3.85%, thus everyone in America goes for the refi, but..
All homes are reappraised at aprox 35% value reduction from where we are now; thus, homes will be worth less across the board and payments will drop across the board.
Obviously, the new era loans will have to have 20% down for owner occuppieds, full docs, full disclosure, etc...
In addition, all banks will have to bail on CDOs/CMOs, RBMS, etc........and reinvent reality with no derivatives..
what think?
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if they can do the mods fast enough the servicers can claim the bad loans with falsified information have been replaced with verified loans
The required verification is patchy, the V part of LTV calculation, in the first instance is to be the one at origination. Only if they can't pass that do they have to go on to other V analysis like AVM, BPO ( whatever that means ). The ASF documents encourages the use of just information created at origination, which we all think is highly suspect occurs in other places too. Other choice quotes from the doc are:
"Servicers will generally not determine current income or DTI to
determine initial eligibility for refinancing"
"DTI at origination"
-K