I drink your MILKSHAKE!

My milkshake brings all the comments to the yard.

The CAMELS nose is under the tent?

Ah fuck it ... I got nothin'.

913, I hope your right CR.

I'm surprized TPTB have so much "control" over the Banking system.

913 Laughing out loud

Bad Dawg Bobby wrote:

I'm surprized TPTB have so much "control" over the Banking system.

No control, just blissful ignorance (aka suspension of FASB 157).

There were three action terminations -- First Community Bank, National Association, Lexington, SC ($602 million Ticker: FCCO); Profinium Financial, Inc., Truman, MN ($307 million); and Solera National Bank, Lakewood, CO ($146 million Ticker: SLRK).

Profinium? In Truman MN ? That town is a one lighter. Who the heck names a bank something like that in a one stop light town?

No control, just blissful ignorance (aka suspension of FASB 157).

And friends in high places ...

He had "previously stated that he owns real estate in Venezuela" and "may own a boat that would be large enough to travel to Venezuela from Florida," the complaint says.

That's cool. Manhunt at Sea! Film at 11.

a boat that would be large enough to travel to Venezuela from Florida

If you island hop you can use a canoe.

1 currency now -yogi wrote:

If you island hop you can use a canoe.

The first rule of kayaking is to not use it as your signature.

1 currency now -yogi wrote:

If you island hop you can use a canoe.

Don Starkell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

On June 1, 1980, he and his two sons, Dana and Jeff Starkell set out on an epic canoe journey from Winnipeg to Belem, Brazil. The trip followed the Red River to its headwaters south of Fargo, North Dakota. From there the canoists portaged to the Minnesota River and then continued down the Mississippi River to the Intracoastal Waterway at La Rose, Louisiana. They followed the Waterway south to Mexico, then skirted the coast of Mexico to Veracruz where they spent three and a half months (November 1980 to mid February 1981) to recover from the journey to date, a journey that had been—and would continue to be—fraught with difficulty. By this time, Jeff Starkell decided to abandon the adventure and Donald and Dana continued on alone. They paddled along the rest of Mexico and Central America to South America. Off the Guajira Peninsula in Colombia they were beset by modern pirates but escaped. They almost died on the Gulf of Coro, Venezuela after being trapped on a sandbar by strong headwinds as their food supplies ran out. Eventually, on October 14, 1981 they made land at Port of Spain, Trinidad, where they recuperated for six weeks. On New Years Day, 1982, they set off from Port of Spain and three days later crossed the Columbus Channel to Venezuela. There, at Pedernales, they entered the delta of the Orinoco River. Over the next two months they paddled virtually the entire length of the Orinoco to Tama Tama where they entered the Casiquiare canal, the only natural canal in the world. Via this route they reached the Rio Negro and then the Amazon River at Manaus, Brazil. From Manaus, they paddled downriver to the Atlantic coast. The journey ended at Belem on May 2, 1982.

In 1986, the names of Don Starkell and his son Dana were entered into the Guinness Book of World Records for having completed the longest canoe journey ever, a distance of 12,181 miles (19,603 kilometres).

dryfly wrote:

Who the heck names a bank something like that in a one stop light town?

A guy who is probably a lot like Aubrey Lee Price. Wink

Presently us Iowans are atwitter about this sex scandal, which plays into the hands of our governor...that teachers are BAAAAD. Turns out tho, the lover is a decorated Army captain. We are certainly titillated and paying attention to other really important stuff going on in the state, which is par for the course. Here's are stateside gossip:

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Oooops:

And "not" paying attention to...

On June 1, 1980, he and his two sons, Dana and Jeff Starkell set out on an epic canoe journey from Winnipeg to Belem, Brazil. The trip followed the Red River to its headwaters south of Fargo, North Dakota. From there the canoists portaged to the Minnesota River and then continued down the Mississippi River to the Intracoastal Waterway at La Rose, Louisiana. They followed the Waterway south to ...

Man I have heard of people desperate to escape 'The Peg' but that takes the cake. One thing for sure - after having experienced 'the flies' in Manitoba there is little the swamps of Central America or Amazonia could throw at them.

dryfly wrote:

Man I have heard of people desperate to escape 'The Peg' but that takes the cake.

New Keyboard

Presently us Iowans are atwitter about this sex scandal, which plays into the hands of our governor...that teachers are BAAAAD...

Don't get me going on Gov. Braindead.

dryfly wrote:

after having experienced 'the flies' in Manitoba there is little the swamps of Central America or Amazonia could throw at them.

YouTube - The blackfly song 

dryfly wrote:

there is little the swamps of Central America or Amazonia could throw at them.

Oh, I don't know,...

The Straight Dope: Can the candirú fish swim upstream into your urethra?

"Don't get me going on Gov. Braindead. "

Bwahahahah! And that was the best we could come up with in 2010? No competent backbenchers stepping into the breach. Really sad, Dryfly.

Everyone must be out playing this fine Sat. aft. Hotter 'n' hades here though.

So, I left AZ and landed in IA, which now has 100 degree temps. It's killin' ma tomato blossoms and that really pisses me off 'cause I wait all year for them vine-ripened babies. Damn!

sdtfs wrote:

The Straight Dope: Can the candirú fish swim upstream into your urethra?

i'd love to know what fraction of men who read this, grabbed their junk in protective reaction.

edit: assuming that the men knew what their urethra is ("depends on what is is, i guess).

JimPortlandOR wrote:

i'd love to know what fraction of men who read this, grabbed their junk in protective reaction.

Dude... I'm surfing the INternet... junk is always in hand.

Paradigm Lost wrote:

It's killin' ma tomato blossoms and that really pisses me off 'cause I wait all year for them vine-ripened babies. Damn!

Keep the soil moist and avoid watering the foliage. Put down some mulch, bark, or newspapers to hold the moisture. A bit of shade during the hottest part of the day will help, but isn't absolutely necessary. Tomatoes can be hardier than you think.

The PNW produce should be spectacular this year (quantity and quality). Cool wet spring (right thru June)...and now Summer has arrived with nothing but clear blue skies and mid-70's as far as the eye can see in the forecast. Maybe Joanna will check in and let us know how her crops are doing...

dryfly wrote:

That town is a one lighter

When I was growing up there, there were no lights. 1,200 residents and dropping. 23 in my high school graduation class.

I looked up the history of the bank on the Profinium website. Their growth "required" them to build a new building in 2003. I recognize all the bank presidents names until the most recent three. Those are new and none from "old" family names. So it looks like some ambitious, but inexperienced types, from out of town decided to leverage up and that didn't work out so well.

Thanks, Feckless. Have been keeping 'em moist. Will do the newspaper/mulch thing. They're just not blossoming as they should. Everything's screwy this year. Flowers, herbs are blooming and seeding way ahead of normal -- about 4-6 weeks. I'll have nothing by the end of August through Sept.

Paradigm Lost wrote:

Flowers, herbs are blooming and seeding way ahead of normal -- about 4-6 weeks. I'll have nothing by the end of August through Sept.

don't forget to move Thanksgiving (harvest feast) up by a couple months. Big smile

You may have time to get in another planting. The warm weather could stay late this year.

I looked up the history of the bank on the Profinium website. Their growth "required" them to build a new building in 2003. I recognize all the bank presidents names until the most recent three. Those are new and none from "old" family names. So it looks like some ambitious, but inexperienced types, from out of town decided to leverage up and that didn't work out so well.

Ya I bet they all came in from the 'big city' ... Mankato.

I was out for a couple of hours.
Thankfully

Now I'll be out for the rest of the evening.
Thankfully

BTW - Informal survey of storefronts in local commercial district indicates that there is virtually no shop left that would have on-line competition. All that's left is food and personal services. Wouldn't know where to buy a spool of thread.

Portland week ahead forecast:

S: 86/58
S: 88/60
M: 85/56
T: 84/56
W: 86/56
Th: 82/55
F: 81/54
S: 80/47

The cool nights and mornings are nirvana.

Thanks, Feckless. Have been keeping 'em moist. Will do the newspaper/mulch thing. They're just not blossoming as they should. Everything's screwy this year. Flowers, herbs are blooming and seeding way ahead of normal -- about 4-6 weeks. I'll have nothing by the end of August through Sept.

Seen it often. High hot humidity. Once the nights cool a bit blossom drop will stop. Have faith - keep them as happy as you can until then. Once they kick in you might get buried. As a teen my folks had a big garden just north of you in Minnie - happened like that often.

JimPortlandOR wrote:

The cool nights and mornings are nirvana.

Summer time in the Cascades can NOT be beat. The best around.

Egypt’s new Islamist president to head to Saudi Arabia on first official trip abroad - The Washington Post

He also said that the kingdom has offered $1 billion to Egypt’s Central Bank after election results were announced and another $500 million for general economic assistance. The kingdom also allocated $250 million for natural gas exports to Egypt, Kattan said.

He knows his masters voice

picosec wrote:

Wouldn't know where to buy a spool of thread.

JoAnn. Still a big retail presence.

Bad Dawg Bobby wrote:

Summer time in the Cascades can NOT be beat.

Road trip this August -- can't wait.

Feckless: I'd love to have a long autumn...my favorite season, but IA can have those unexpected freezes, which would be enough to kill 'em dead. Where are you? In the Midwest??

BG your choice of icons was spot on

TJ and The Bear wrote:

Road trip this August -- can't wait.

Me too, maybe as early as mid july. Party

Feckless Ness wrote:

JoAnn. Still a big retail presence.

Can't walk to it.

Thanks, dryfly. Definitely getting the blossom drop. Watering every day. Feeding once or twice a week. The bushes are strong and green and bushy...but few blossoms.

Summer time in the Cascades can NOT be beat. The best around.

What surprised me about Seattle when I moved here is there are virtually no bugs (biting or otherwise). You would think a climate like ours (relatively mild temps..lots of precip and standing water) would be a breeding ground for them..but for some reason..no.

We picnicked at the local lake yesterday..pretty cool to see a bald eagle skimming across the water looking for lake trout.

Feckless: I'd love to have a long autumn...my favorite season, but IA can have those unexpected freezes, which would be enough to kill 'em dead. Where are you? In the Midwest??

Throw a sheet over them at night if a freeze threatens - pass in a few days. Seriously. It's early July - if you can keep them alive during the heat they'll produce like crazy later on.

Mike_PNW wrote:

pretty cool to see a bald eagle skimming across the water looking for lake trout.

Or an Ospra fishing a stretch of River. Smile

Thanks, dryfly. Definitely getting the blossom drop. Watering every day. Feeding once or twice a week. The bushes are strong and green and bushy...but few blossoms.

Cut back some on the feeding.

Mike_PNW wrote:

there are virtually no bugs (biting or otherwise). You would think a climate like ours (relatively mild temps..lots of precip and standing water) would be a breeding ground for them..but for some reason..no.

Same for Portland: it IS a mystery. I told my sis in western burbs of Chicago this and she couldn't believe it. She says their mosquitos are B-52 sized and numerous - no outdoors after dusk.

Feckless: We used to vacation in S.Cal. In fact, the Arizonans would pass the Californians on the only highway. They were visiting AZ and we were driving to CA., every summer.

My best memories were of food. White-flesh juicy peaches, ladyfinger grapes, huge sweet beefsteaks. We could make a meal from the farmers' market fruits, veggies, bread and cheese. And of course all the seafood restaurants. As a kid, I was in love with the weather, the sea, the food...and I wanted to retire there. But things changed, as they have in AZ.

I wanted to retire there. But things changed, as they have in AZ.

Hey there's always Iowa.

Same for Portland:

The gf and I are going to be down there in a couple weeks (celebrating her birthday). Got any "36 hours in Portland" recommendations for me (we'll be staying dt).

Mike_PNW wrote:

Got any "36 hours in Portland" recommendations for me (we'll be staying dt)

None from me unless you like tropical fish: the Wet Spot. Red Herring One of the best on the west coast.

Home

Sheets on the ready, dryfly. Thanks. I'm no gardener. What I do is for the love of food. I throw it in the ground and pray it comes up. So any advice given, is sincerely appreciated from you and Feckless.

It's hell to be a foodie with a brown thumb.

Mike_PNW wrote:

"36 hours in Portland"

Take a list of your favorite writers and hit Powell's books. Not to be missed. But shop with a list or you'll waste your time in awe.

"Hey there's always Iowa. "

Yep, never expected to land here. But my SO (the Iowan) says that with climate chaos we just may become the garden spot of the U.S.

BTW, we've had virtually no skeeters this year. Slapped my first one a coupla days ago.

P.S. Will cut back on the feeding, dryfly. Thought they might need it with the heat.

None from me unless you like tropical fish

We like to eat fish (of all kinds..but i guess that's not what you meant. Smile

Can someone tell me where (specifically) on the page you go to update the "theme" . I'm having the same problem as others (Chrome) where i'm getting reset to an old HCN version.

Mike_PNW wrote:

What surprised me about Seattle when I moved here is there are virtually no bugs (biting or otherwise). You would think a climate like ours (relatively mild temps..lots of precip and standing water) would be a breeding ground for them..but for some reason..no.

Down here (OR coast) we do get some kinds of annoying insects (& some mosquitoes) during very wet springs/early summers, mostly in & around areas that are seasonal wetlands. Met some "hosts" of South Beach state park campground (Newport) who complained about all the flying insects in the campground. Further inland, in the coast range, will also see some gnats & lots of flies where there is livestock. And ticks.

I see many more spiders (numbers & varieties) here then I did on LI but I like spiders so it's a plus for me.

But biting/blood sucking insect population is nothing like northern MI or eastern MA.

I agree with cutting back on the feeding. And use mulch so you can water less often. A little stress is good - it prompts plants to reproduce.

Troyski: Muppets are deleveraging. I know for a fact everyone around here is paying down debt.

Is there any part of Iowa that isn't startlingly flat? Prairies depress me.

P.S. Will cut back on the feeding, dryfly. Thought they might need it with the heat.

They will need water now - not so much the ground is always wet or they rot but not too dry too long, not in this heat.

The fertilizer thing is that if too much nitrogen they just grow greens and no fruit. So limit it. Need K and P too...

I heard the total opposite is true. Use high nitrogen fertilizer early on to promote green growth and then switch to high phosphorous fertilizer upon bloom to encourage more fruits and flowers. If you're growth area is large, use higher numbered fertilizers. I think that for indoor plants or smaller crops outdoors, fertilizers with high numbers isn't necessary. For that, stick with something like a 6-4-4 at vegetative stage, then 2-8-4 at blooming stage.

Best Fertilizer Mix? | HelpfulGardener.com

Google is you friend...

Feckless: Ask Dryfly. He lives near the bluffs of the Mississippi. Rolling hills, very pretty. Reminds me of parts of Germany. But where I am...flatlands as far as the eye can see. Used to be people-high prairie grass dotted with wetlands with lots of wildlife. By the 1900s, all that had disappeared. I read some diaries of the early settlers; I couldn't believe the changes they made in just 60-70 years.

And yeah, when the canadian winter winds come howling over the plains, believe me, you can get pretty depressed.

Is there any part of Iowa that isn't startlingly flat? Prairies depress me.

True prairie is beautiful but rarer than virgin old growth timber.

And yes there is hilly regions in Iowa just not where Paradigm lives... Eastern Iowa near the Mississippi and western Iowa near the Missouri - both with beautiful oak savanna. In between it's flat factory farming as far a the eye can see.

Paradigm Lost wrote:

And yeah, when the canadian winter winds come howling over the plains, believe me, you can get pretty depressed.

And the attraction to retiring there is... what? Wink

dryfly wrote:

Eastern Iowa near the Mississippi and western Iowa near the Missouri

Which has the milder winter or is less prone to flooding?

Take a list of your favorite writers and hit Powell's books.

Yeah..Powell's is definitely on the to do list when we get there.

My 36 hours in Seattle list would be (morning) hit Pikes market (dt) for breakfast)..then do a "harbor cruise" of Puget Sound. Afternoon take a drive of the Cascade Loop..starts in Seattle and loops out into the mountains and back...spectacular. Dinner/drinks/etc back in Seattle at night. next day hit Boeing Aeronautical museum...pretty impressive..If you can extend it to a week..now were talking San Juan islands..Victoria island BC..etc.

Eastern Iowa near the Mississippi and western Iowa near the Missouri
Which has the milder winter or is less prone to flooding?

There is some difference - east to west but not a lot. The big difference is between micro climates. Just a few miles a part and whether a north facing slope or south can make a huge difference in temperature and how arid it is.

Just went motohoming up I29 north of Omaha/Council Bluffs going to Fremont. Pretty nice hilly country along the Missouri river.

I think tomatoes need the temp at night to get below 73-75F in order for the blossoms to set fruit. If you get a cool snap you should get a batch to set. Mine are doing okay here but we haven't been as hot as the rest of the country.

But biting/blood sucking insect population is nothing like northern MI or eastern MA.

Eastern? Those city bugs got nothing on their Western MA country cousins. There yo can use the mosquitoes for fishing. Just get a saddle and a scoop net.

Unlike the wind farms on the drive eastward through Pipestone to Holland MN, the 90 year old great uncle who lives there is looking... well... great. I told him I expect to see him again for his 91st! He better not disappoint me Smile

Well, TJ, we just kinda landed here after many years in Europe. Bottom line: It was family. The SO's are here; mine are in AZ. The family in IA was older, needed more help, so we settled here. Then the crash happened and now we're stuck.

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Barry Ritholtz has the chops to tell it like it is but CR continues to stick head in sand Wink

I remember the black flies were awful in Central Mass when I was growing up. I will say you haven't seen mosquito until you come to Florida. We are like the bug capital of the world I think. We have giant flying cock roaches ffs. Laughing out loud

And the attraction to retiring there is... what?

Plenty cheap. Surprising factoid is that Iowa has one of the highest percentages of elderly anywhere in the US. Two reasons 1. Cheap place to live on a fixed income 2. Kids leave.

My one-week Seattle list includes the tulip festival, Butchart Gardens, and these guys:

Little and Lewis Artists on Bainbridge Island, WA

Paradigm Lost wrote:

Bottom line: It was family.

Damned family, can't live with them but can't let'em die either. You're a good kid!!!

Comrade Kristina wrote:

We have giant flying cock roaches

They have those in Hawaii, too. All shapes and sizes. When you come home at night, you stamp your feet before you turn on the light so you don't have to see them all scurry away.

dryfly wrote:

Plenty cheap. Surprising factoid is that Iowa has one of the highest percentages of elderly anywhere in the US. Two reasons 1. Cheap place to live on a fixed income 2. Kids leave.

Where should we go for vacation this year honey?
(Kids, in unison) IOWA!!

My one-week Seattle list includes the tulip festival, Butchart Gardens, and these guys:

awesome..haven't done any of those yet so I'll have to check them out.

Oh...and day hiking in Mt Ranier Natl Park definitely is on the one week list.

Where should we go for vacation this year honey?
(Kids, in unison) IOWA!!

Not Okaboji? Please don't tell me it's Okaboji.

Barry Ritholtz has the chops to tell it like it...

Poop's hitting the fan.

YouTube - Grand Funk Railroad - Save the Land

dryfly wrote:

Not Okaboji? Please don't tell me it's Okaboji.

Laughing out loud I only go there for the alien abductions

"Plenty cheap. "

Yes, there is that, too. You can live fairly good on a fixed income. Problem is: Selling your house here didn't translate into a paid-off house in FL, AZ or CA. There would be a payment. And then there are those damn pesky HOA fees. It adds up.

There was a time when Tucson was inexpensive living, but that has changed. My hometown is more like southern Cal now.

Paradigm Lost wrote:

My hometown is more like southern Cal now.

Give or take 30 degrees.

dryfly wrote:

Surprising factoid is that Iowa has one of the highest percentages of elderly anywhere in the US. Two reasons 1. Cheap place to live on a fixed income 2. Kids leave.

Yeah, my sister's in-laws are there. Learned a lot of Minnesota jokes from them, but I'm sure you've heard them all. Smile

Paradigm Lost wrote:

Problem is: Selling your house here didn't translate into a paid-off house in FL, AZ or CA

The house I grew up in, in Southern MN was recently listed for sale at $24,000. 900 Sq. Ft., full basement, attic, Three bedrooms & one bath. It worked well for Mom, Dad, my brother and I, plus Grandma in the little bedroom in later years. My folks paid $5,500 on a VA loan in 1955, so not a lot of appreciation.

Paradigm Lost wrote:

Yes, there is that, too. You can live fairly good on a fixed income.

Who needs to live well somewhere if there's nothing for the neighbors to envy?

But shop with a list or you'll waste your time in awe.

Just browsing and wandering around Powell's with absolutely nothing in mind to buy is fun too...

The neighbors and the tax man judge you by the outside of your house, not the inside. Wink

Learned a lot of Minnesota jokes from them, but I'm sure you've heard them all.

Big rivalry. We referred to Iowans as 'Iowegians' if we liked them or 'gunny sackers' if we didn't. They had similar 'pet names' for us.

Pretty funny really considering So Minn and Iowa are as different as say grey and grey.

"so not a lot of appreciation. "

That's right, mhdoc. I like to live debt-free. Have done so for decades now. The crash would've been a good time to buy, but muppets like me hafta sell the existing house & then roll the cash over, and therein lies the problem. I have no farm to sell. Wish I did.

Lobbyist Ben Dover wrote:

The neighbors and the tax man judge you by the outside of your house, not the inside.

Feature, not bug

The house I grew up in, in Southern MN was recently listed for sale at $24,000. 900 Sq. Ft., full basement, attic, Three bedrooms & one bath.

Up here in N Wisco saw an advert for a one bedroom apartment near lakes for $300 per month - utilities included.

dryfly - We referred to Iowans as 'Iowegians'

That, and the joke about what do you call a drunk, a cow and a piss bucket on the side of the road? The Iowa State Fair.
FD - I was born in Iowa.

"Who needs to live well somewhere if there's nothing for the neighbors to envy? "

Well, gotta Porsche in the garage...but no one 'round here knows what it is. We get funny looks (and cops glued to our bumper) when we take 'er out for a ride.

Now, iffn it were a vette, that'd be a different kettle of fish.

dryfly wrote:

Up here in N Wisco saw an advert for a one bedroom apartment near lakes for $300 per month - utilities included.

Changes the whole definition of 'living wage', doesn't it? Wink

Well, gotta Porsche in the garage...but no one 'round here knows what it is.

It's the name that funny English teacher up at the high school named her daughter.... Where the heck she got that who knows.

ResistanceIsFeudal wrote:

Changes the whole definition of 'living wage', doesn't it?

Bingo!

Changes the whole definition of 'living wage', doesn't it?

Cost the same to live there as anywhere - rest goes to beer and lottery tickets.

Jul. 06 2012,

“Have a relaxing summer – you’ll need it.”

That’s how The Economist concludes this story on data showing that September is clearly the most likely month of the year for a financial crisis to erupt."

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/personal-finance/household-finances/rob-carricks-reader-have-a-relaxing-summer-youll-need-it/article4394264/

That’s how The Economist concludes this story on data showing that September is clearly the most likely month of the year for a financial crisis to erupt."

Be okay then - football will have started.

Paradigm Lost wrote:

.but no one 'round here knows what it is.

I always comment to people how SoCal screws with your wealth perceptions. Here everyone has a foreign car, Porsches, Bimmers & Benz are plentiful, and you see exotics at least once a day. Oh, and if you played "slug bug" with Prius sightings you'd be black and blue after three blocks.

Last year when we road-tripped it was like an entirely different country car-wise outside of California. I think we ran across one 911 on the roads between Scottsdale and Chicago, for example.

dryfly wrote:

Cost the same to live there as anywhere - rest goes to beer and lottery tickets.

Damn those expensive microbrews!

Last year when we road-tripped it was like an entirely different country car-wise outside of California. I think we ran across one 911 on the road between Scottsdale and Chicago.

I bet you saw a pickup truck or two.

dryfly wrote:

I bet you saw a pickup truck or two.

dry, I bet my statue of Dale Earnhart is bigger than yours.

ResistanceIsFeudal - Damn those expensive microbrews!

Ah, just find the ones you like and brew your own.
The strongest beers cost me around 40 cents a pint. Meads on the other hand, honey is getting really expensive.

dry, I bet my statue of Dale Earnhart is bigger than yours.

I'd laugh if I wasn't crying...

dryfly wrote:

I bet you saw a pickup truck or two.

A few. Laughing out loud

Why Gold is soaring ??? Laughing out loud

It is hard to write about a market that has such quick swings.

You got to think long term.

"Changes the whole definition of 'living wage', doesn't it? "

Most around here get paid minimum wage. So, if you're a doc, or a dentist, or even a big farmer, you can live like a king here.

Reminds me of going to East Germany. West German marks, dollars were like gold on the black market. Now, you could go there with plenty of dough, but there wasn't much to buy. The cupboard was bare and the resentment (near the end) was palpable. I had German friends who lived in west Berlin for years. They picked up antiques for pennies, literally. That was in the '70s and '80s.

Still RiF, Bendover, would you live here and work for minimum wage? I don't think so.

Housing may be cheaper, but food, gas, cars and energy are the same prices everyone else pays from coast to coast.

Fiscal cliff uncertainty may cloud future jobs reports - Jul. 6, 2012

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) --" House Republicans blame the disappointing June jobs report on President Obama's "failed policies." Senate Democrats blame Republicans for engaging in "empty, partisan exercises that will not create one job."
And neither party in Congress appears ready to do the one thing experts say Congress could do to improve the outlook for jobs -- cut a bipartisan deal on the "fiscal cliff."

The fiscal cliff represents trillions of dollars in poorly conceived spending cuts and tax increases that start to go into effect in January.
Lawmakers can't control for all the potential headwinds that can hurt hiring -- such as the turmoil in Europe or the pace of economic growth globally.

But they can choose to clear up the uncertainty about U.S. fiscal policy. Problem is almost no one expects them to do so before the November elections."

The fiscal cliff represents trillions of dollars in poorly conceived spending cuts and tax increases that start to go into effect in January.

Facepalm

rest goes to beer and lottery tickets.

those weekends in Hurley get a bit expensive too..

Still RiF, Bendover, would you live here and work for minimum wage? I don't think so.
Housing may be cheaper, but food, gas, cars and energy are the same prices everyone else pays from coast to coast.

Thing is - they have min wage workers in the high cost states too! Look at the median incomes - Minnesota is about the same as Cali.

How would you like to be min wage in LA. South Central? Or East LA maybe? Where else could you live?

those weekends in Hurley get a bit expensive too..

No kidding. That's why I only go to Rhinelander.

dryfly wrote:

How would you like to be min wage in LA. South Central? Or East LA maybe? Where else could you live?

under a bridge, assuming that it wasn't already occupied...

Duke Energy CEO To Receive $44 Million Payout Despite Resigning On His First Day | ThinkProgress

Facepalm

I have seen everything now. Everything. $5.5 million/hr.

Duke Energy CEO To Receive $44 Million Payout Despite Resigning On His First Day | ThinkProgress

I have seen everything now. Everything. $5.5 million/hr.

What do you have against 'Job Creators'?

Yeah! If they didn't pay him that much he would go somewhere else...wait, wut?

dryfly wrote:

What do you have against 'Job Creators'?

I guess we had to give up the old 'value creation' propaganda... the proles must have gotten wise to it. At least 'job' doesn't necessarily imply any value. What will we call them next time around (besides M'Lord)?

ResistanceIsFeudal wrote:
Sat, 07/07/2012 - 6:22pm
austerity [for me] BAD, free money [for me] GOOD Fixed It For Ya

We're going to go visit some friends for a bit. It was super slow at work today. Really bad. See ya'll later.

Thank goodness for public comments. Under the linked article:

That's not what happened, this article is grossly misrepresenting Bill Johnson's tenure. Duke Energy merged with Progress Energy. Bill Johnson worked at Progress Energy (pre-merger) for 17 years, 5 years as CEO. It was unclear how the two CEOs would share power. Bill Johnson stepped down. It's as simple as that. He didn't work for 8 hours and bring home a severance package of $44 million.

ThinkProgress has mislead all of their readers with this article. I don't imagine they are entirely clueless about the facts, it's probably intentional.

Comrade Kristina wrote:

We're going to go visit some friends for a bit. It was super slow at work today. Really bad. See ya'll later.

Y? WE HAZ RECOVEREE + HOUSING BOTTOM!

Y? WE HAZ RECOVEREE + HOUSING BOTTOM!

Public comments under that article would read:

"We are recovering from ever thinking this is going to get better, and housing in one big pain in the @ss."

Outsider - ThinkProgress has mislead all of their readers with this article.

Are you going to let facts get in the way of a good story and Pitchforks and Torches

ThinkProgress has mislead all of their readers with this article. I don't imagine they are entirely clueless about the facts, it's probably intentional.

That's a relief. I bet every manager who was made redundant by the merger and worked there that long got $44MM, right?

Yah, well, not everyone can spelll.

(just to clarify - I didn't write that - I quoted it)

Outsider wrote:

"We are recovering from ever thinking this is going to get better, and housing in one big pain in the @ss."

TJ's comments above suggest otherwise.

"How would you like to be min wage in LA. South Central? Or East LA maybe? "

True. But at one time, jobs were more plentiful elsewhere. That's why all the kids leave. They're following jobs and the money. Since the crash, it's hard all over.

Outsider wrote:

The one about the cars?

Yeah, not so much as a fact as the reflection of a mentality.

Yeah and if whoever made the comment thinks that people are in fact disgusted by the 24-hour aspect of the story, he is severely misled...

ResistanceIsFeudal wrote:

Yeah, not so much as a fact as the reflection of a mentality.

Always been that way here, though. Even those that can't afford them pretend that they can.

TJ and The Bear wrote:

Always been that way here, though. Even those that can't afford them pretend that they can.

Yep.

Got Popcorn??

Even those that can't afford them pretend that they can.

Here they buy tractors.

Pretty much any organization with "citizens" or "progress" in their name you can dismiss as a bunch of bs...

Corporate citizens of the world, unite. You have nothing to lose but troublesome democracies!

But an Energy Company, I'd take them at their word.

But an Energy Company, I'd take them at their word.

Did the energy company make a statement on the matter?? Pretty easy to fact check if the guy really was the 17 year CEO of the acquired company.

Did the energy company make a statement on the matter?? Pretty easy to fact check if the guy really was the 17 year CEO of the acquired company.

Who cares. $44MM is a shit load of money. What do you think regular managers get in similar situations? One week for every year up to maybe 12 years? Or less - where my wife works I think it's 10 years. Capped after that.

I get rewarding him but doesn't this seem even a little over he top? I sure do even though these stories are getting more and more common.

But an Energy Company, I'd take them at their word.

Hey..if the article would have focused on a guy who worked 17 years getting $44 million and these other people in the same boat got nothing..than that's a legit pov...but that's not what they did..right?? (correct me if I'm wrong..linking to TP is as disgusting to me as linking to Faux News is for you guys..so I didn't read the article)...

edit..that was for Dryfly..still had Yogis comment in my cache

Living in this part of the country is better on minimum wage then the Big buck states. Besides housing there is lots of wage adjusted services here like dentistry. Lots of free food banks, cloths etc. Charity is a big business here. Problem is most of these people won't put any effort into their lives, that's the only difference between me and them.

Severance pay? Who ever pays that any more?
He most likely had it in his contract, and it just shows that some lawyers are worth what they are paid.

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