Schedule for Week of July 8th

c'mon man, it's Friday the 13th

and some guru out there has said something about the fifteenth being a bad day for red energy people and good for purple energy people

volker not know much about that

"volker not know much about that"

Don't be so hard on yourself. You're all you've got.
--JD

No one will deny the importance of urging rich and poor alike, in the present state of things, to try and economise the fuel and food which they may have at their disposal. The sooner we make up our minds that what we regretfully speak of as the 'good old times' with their good old prices will never come again, the sooner we shall cease to look fondly back on a cheaper past, and brace ourselves helpfully and bravely to face the increased cost of the necessaries of life.

-Lady Barker, First Lessons in the Principles of Cooking, 1886

ANTIPATHY

SKK maybe you google but I was in Aghganistan twice during the reign of King zahir have also visited the tombs of Humayan and Akbar

Your summary also is in error

Why you condescend so much I guess means you live in a community of the ill educated. Boulder?

apparently purple energy is all peace and love, as well as irresistable

red energy is warlike and evil

guru suggests big wipe out coming

just one more Dooooooooooooooom!!! on the Doom-O-Meter

spanish 10yr yield to 8%??

ANTIPATHY wrote:

SKK maybe you google but I was in Aghganistan twice during the reign of King zahir have also visited the tombs of Humayan and Akbar

Your summary also is in error

what's the error on Babur ?

black dog wrote:

spanish 10yr yield to 8%??

Link please?

pavel - half snark half uh-oh (if it occurs)

black dog wrote:

pavel - half snark half uh-oh (if it occurs)

It is above 7.

pavel.chichikov wrote:

Bank of England warns UK banks need more capital - Telegraph

I keep warning people that I need more capital but no one pays any attention Sad

Prediction of strong winds accompanying thunderstorms here in DC area as cold front moves in tomorrow afternoon.

Besides my own history study I recent read all five books of the Alex Rutherford series. What I said is that Kabul remained in the Mughul empire for at least three generations maybe more. Other than short periods this seems to be the case. I will accept serious criticism by ruler by date. If you cannot give it..give up.

black dog wrote:

and spanish 10yr yield back around 7%

intrade on seeing rajoy hanging from a lamp post is now 26% chance.

black dog wrote:

pavel - half snark half uh-oh (if it occurs)

Well, over the past week Spain's 10-year yield rose about 60 bps, but Germany's dropped 20 bps so the spread was close to a 1% increase.

ANTIPATHY wrote:

If you cannot give it..give up.

that's twice now.. ...

ANTIPATHY wrote:

Whose checking his wiki now?

thrice !

pavel.chichikov wrote:

Prediction of strong winds accompanying thunderstorms here in DC area as cold front moves in tomorrow afternoon.

Youv'e got a week to get things under control, pavel. That's when I arrive. I'm counting on you Wink.

"Small Business Optimism"

Still down. Hmmmmmmf. Mental recession for the Muppetz.

Need to be the smartest guyz in the room to have optimism!

SKK

too suggest that I was using wiki or google is personal. Now I am a wanker. I think that many of your so called postions are like this and then you try to escape by escalating

I made initially a simple statement and you insulted.

give it up.

picosec wrote:

Youv'e got a week to get things under control, pavel

I'll do my best, boss. I've got all those trucks out now. Smile

ANTIPATHY wrote:

I made initially a simple statement and you insulted.

I thought that was the rules

It is above 7.

the banks dug their own grave.

when the LTRO launched earlier spanish banks could borrow from ECB at 1% and buy their 10 yr sovereign yielding a little over 5% ... the plan was to pocket the spread (make big profit) ... while driving down the yield (make big profit on debt bought at higher yield) ... pay big big bankster bonuses ... retreat to the yacht for champagne ...

unfortunately, the plan did not match reality

ANTIPATHY wrote:

too suggest that I was using wiki or google is personal.

huh ? that's what it is.. you got the wrong end of the stick lad. I said.

If Miss Fernandez taught me correctly at school. Googling. wiki sorta accords with that - mind you it says the primary source is HIMSELF and his memoirs.

Any reasonable interpretation of that is that I googled, I checked the wiki. nothing about where you got your data from at all.

Now given that that is an misunderstanding surely - lets move on.

No, really, power company trucks out in force today. 102 at the airport. The contrast between weather masses is going to be marked.

volker no problem I expect to give out as much as I am given from this one

I have a lot of word but if he just drops it I am ok

Still down.

need to offshore more ...

volker the viking wrote:

I thought that was the rules

don't you start too Smile - once again.. I talked about googling and the wiki to describe what I did. nothing about where antipathy got the data from.

THUNDERSTORMS THAT DEVELOP WILL HAVE THE
POTENTIAL TO BECOME SEVERE...WITH DAMAGING WIND GUSTS AND LARGE
HAIL.

-- National Weather Service

ANTIPATHY wrote:

if he just drops it

they're all nutz

We've been eying the big spruce tree across the street and trying to calculate the angle of repose if it goes.

weather reports, dinner menus, recipes, stock tips

that's what I come here for

volker the viking wrote:

weather reports, dinner menus, recipes, stock tips

that's what I come here for

At least no one is arguing about the weather report.

ciao.

012-07-07 13:17 UTC R3 (Strong) Radio Blackout - Solar Radiation Strom in Decline

Region 1515 produced an impulsive R3 (Strong) solar flare radio blackout at 2308 UTC (7:08 PM EDT) on July 6. Initial analysis indicates the coronal mass ejection (CME) associated with this event is not headed directly at Earth. A high-confidence WSA-Enlil model run is being done to refine that estimate. Solar Radiation Storm levels did exceed the S1 (Minor) threshold but appear to be in decline at this time. Additionally, G1 (Minor) geomagnetic storming is possible through July 8 as a string of coronal mass ejections (CMEs) observed earlier in the week make their way past Earth. Stay tuned for updates.

more hot on the way....

ANTIPATHY wrote:

SKK agreed lets move on

excellent. to the issue - I'm going to this place as regards the Mughal Empire and Afghanistan and the Indian subcontinent - are they OF the subcontinent or are they invaders - they start as invaders of course - starting with Babur so his tomb in Kaboulistan figures so to speak - even Humayun would still in my book be NOT OF the subcontinent - as evidence the bunfight with the bro over Afghanistan and retreats to Persia..

One has to get to Akbar to really regard them as part of the subcontinent - but all that lasts barely 100 years - by Aurangzeb its all falling apart already.

There's the broader issue of course which is - is Afghanistan part of the geo-political entity called the Indian sub-continent - I say not. of course YMMV.

I guess my point was not clear. The Mughals controlled Kaboulistan for at least three generations.

The Mughals are of course invaders. To not only the sub-continent but also that hard land Afghanistan

India is India. the Mughals were late to the party.

96F/ 47%rH; Sunny

Dinner Tonight: Grilled Chicken Thighs with fresh garden vegetable medley.

I wouldn't be buying apple at this price.

I made a batch of bread and butter pickles using dark brown sugar

amber looking, sweet, with a kick from the pepercorns

It's amazing the amount of sugar that gets used in the recipe.

ANTIPATHY wrote:

The Mughals controlled Kaboulistan for at least three generations.

The Mughals are of course invaders. To not only the sub-continent but also that hard land Afghanistan

India is India. the Mughals were late to the party.

Excellent - all this is germane as secular India ( the nation not sub-continent ) IMO rewrote history to make out that the Mughals are "Indian" to keep the Hindu-Muslim schism under wraps - rewriting history in secondary and primary school textbooks ain't the way to do it - however noble the objective. it all boils over in the end anyways - with the Babri Masjid / Ram Janmabhoomi controversy, riots, mosque tear down by Hindu fundie mobs .. Supreme Court cases that make an ass of the law. I wdn't care but it puts me in the invidious position of seeing many historical facts lying on the fundie's side.

sigh. Rodney King did have one thing right - why can't we all get along - NOW ?

HomeGnome wrote:

It's amazing the amount of sugar that gets used in the recipe.

You has pickle recipe?

Homemade pickles would be great with a burger...

hey Antipathy I deleted that w word and sentence. Its quite unnecessary.

HomeGnome wrote:

Grilled Chicken Thighs with fresh garden vegetable medley.

The new currency, the medley being small change.

5⁰C/41⁰F 92%rH Clear

I'm ready for Summer.

As ever, apologies for the OT and time-zone issues as well as the length

Sandals in the Second-hand Sand (7 Jul 2012)

I have viewed the sand here today on tv as the local news programs showed tourists and reported high temperatures of high-90s. It is predicted to go up to 104-105 more inland over the next couple of days.

The reports also highlighted the increase in tourism from Russia, primarily due to speedier visas. From what I can gather, many come for the sun and beaches, but they also come for cultural and religious tourism to visit monasteries and churches as well as Biblical sites. There were also reports on Greeks out at the beaches and beach bars. One could not tell from the images that there was a crisis.

The situation is very different on the actual sidewalk, at least in my anecdotal experience. I have been down I the city-center (Thessaloniki) half a dozen or more times in the past two weeks. There seem to be more beggars on every visit. One cannot walk more than about 25 yards in the business streets without encountering one. Often it is no more than 10 yards. Some are well-dressed and carry signs saying “I am hungry.” Many are seated on the sidewalk and have young children in their arms and not so well-dressed. Folks with accordions that they cannot play hammer out something as they beg; sometimes it is several family members, and often those playing are four or five years old. The scavengers are ubiquitous in our neighborhood. They patrol (often as a family) with several stroller frames or shopping carts fitted with boxes to hold what they can cull.

The parliament is currently in the midst of the presentation and debate of the new measures proposed by the coalition, which will be voted on Sunday night. The proposal seems to be not to ask for further concessions and to try to speed up privatizations of governmental organizations and properties. I put his bit up on the earlier thread in regard to potential sympathy on the part of one of Merkel’s partners.

This has been up here in Greece for a few hours: creditcriminalslovetarp | Hoocoodanode?
'Rainer Bruederle, the floor leader of the Free Democratic Party that is a coalition partner in Berlin, said it would “make sense” to give Greece more time to implement reforms required as part of the European Union bailout package.' It is due to be published in the German press tomorrow.

I wonder why we all had "Victory Gardens"?

Antipodes wrote:

I'm ready for Summer.

I would like some summer here at the beach as well. Haven't seen the sun since June.

SKK

agree. Sad that this will not go away.

and then there was Jinnah

I remember the emptied temples as I passed from Kabul to Armritsar. 1973.

sm_landlord wrote:

Haven't seen the sun since June.

We see the Sun. It shines between the squalls. Dooooooooooooooom!!!

Sorry, big storm brewing in NYC...left to walk the dog. But I was not being facetious. Why should the AMA cartel be allowed to exist, if all other unions that still exist are under fire. Want to lower health care costs, then deregulate. Time to use the Republican mantra to help ourselves.
Want cheaper doctors...then open the doors and let them flood in from Europe and Asia. Why should the AMA set any standards...beyond the effort to protect their income stream. They've been doing a piss-poor job anyways. Hospitals and doctors should be required to post price lists, just like retail stores, and cash, insurance or payment plans make no difference. Consumers can compare prices and take their best shot.

For those wondering why the unemployment rate in California is so much higher than the national average:

California bill seeks certification for pet groomers - latimes.com 

Aha, I see Dawg already linked it - it is right next to this piece:

Small businesses are faltering on job creation - latimes.com

Haralambos wrote:

The parliament is currently in the midst of the presentation and debate of the new measures proposed by the coalition, which will be voted on Sunday night.

Banks on Fridays. Countries on Sundays. Maybe Greece should follow this advice.

YouTube - Melina Mercouri "Never on sunday" (Version 1960)

fried, what role does Medicare play in how doctors price their services?

Amazing how many of these could easily qualify as on-topic at HCN:

The following questions were set in last year's GED examination
These are genuine answers (from 16 year olds)............and they WILL breed.

Q. Name the four seasons
A. Salt, pepper, mustard and vinegar

Q. Explain one of the processes by which water can be made safe to drink
A. Flirtation makes water safe to drink because it removes large pollutants like grit, sand, dead sheep and canoeists
...[watch out HG!]

Q. What causes the tides in the oceans
A. The tides are a fight between the earth and the moon. All water tends to flow towards the moon, because there is no water on the moon, and nature abhors a vacuum. I forget where the sun joins the fight

Q. What guarantees may a mortgage company insist on
A. If you are buying a house they will insist that you are well endowed

Q. In a democratic society, how important are elections
A. Very important. Sex can only happen when a male gets an election

Q.. What happens to your body as you age
A. When you get old, so do your bowels and you get intercontinental

Q. What happens to a boy when he reaches puberty
A. He says goodbye to his boyhood and looks forward to his adultery

RockyR wrote:

fried, what role does Medicare play in how doctors price their services?

You've got that backwards.

Autos and homes will lead us to growth!

Anyone else use a Mac here?

The comments on HCN work differently on Mac vs PC. On the PC, there is no change from before. On the Mac, the new comment box appears at the bottom and quoting by highlighting doesn't work anymore.

ried, what role does Medicare play in how doctors price their services?

I think it varies by region. Here in Manhattan, many doctors will not accept Medicare patients...not enough money. They can do better with private insurance or cash customers. But getting an appointment with a good doctor here is like joining a private club. The secretary will ask you on the phone, who recommended you, and who are your other doctors. Then, without a blink, ask how you intend to pay...if cash, or if insurance, which one. If they don't like those answers, the reply is standard...sorry, the doctor is not accepting new patients.

Thanks. I think when it comes to decision time it will come on a bank holiday Monday.

One back: YouTube - The Boomtown Rats - I Don't Like Mondays

Be well.

mr_clueless wrote:

On the PC, there is no change from before. On the Mac, the new comment box appears at the bottom and quoting by highlighting doesn't work anymore.

Make sure your Theme is Hoocoobluetwo. In fact, even if it appears to be, choose it again. Lately mine (a PC using Chrome) seems to power up apparently in that theme but until I manually make the selection I get the same display as you described.

picosec wrote:

When you get old, so do your bowels and you get intercontinental

It's the gluten.

mr_clueless wrote:

quoting by highlighting doesn't work anymore.

I'm on a Mac. Still works here. FD: using FF 3.2.28

As for pharma drugs, the same deal. They let them pitch their drugs on TV, just like any other consumer good, so let the consumers choose.
Buy what you want at the drugstore...the pharmacist can run a database to pick up any that are contra-indicated. Time to deregulate big pharma too. No more running to some doctor and paying for an office visit just to get scrip. It's a free country, so buy what you want.
Just like any other retail transaction, caveat emptor.

picosec wrote:

Make sure your Theme is Hoocoobluetwo. In fact, even if it appears to be, choose it again.

My listbox read "Hoocoobluetwo", but it wasn't. Choosing it again brought back the good old scheme.

It appears that the first line of text in the listbox should be "None" or "Select a theme".

On edit: Thanks, picosec!

mr_clueless:

On the Mac, the new comment box appears at the bottom and quoting by highlighting doesn't work anymore.

quoting by highlighting doesn't work on my Internet 9 on Windows 7, or on my latest Google Chrome.

in both cases, clicking reply doesn't copy highlighted text and it takes me to the New Comment box - a pain in the ass.

Anybody else having this problem?

JimPortlandOR wrote:

Anybody else having this problem?

Yes, I get that sometimes. I see it most often when there are large numbers of comments.

>
quoting by highlighting doesn't work on my Internet 9 on Windows 7, or on my latest Google Chrome.
in both cases, clicking reply doesn't copy highlighted text and it takes me to the New Comment box - a pain in the ass.
Anybody else having this problem?
>

Exactly my issue.

An "Economic Quality" Scorecard Of The Obama Administration | ZeroHedge

  • Total Nonfarm Payrolls have decreased by -1.3 million from December 2008 (134,379K) to June 2012 (133,088); Source: St. Louis Fed
  • Full-time jobs based on the Household Survey, have decreased by 2.5 million from 117,039K to 114,573K; Source: Table A.9, BLS
  • Parti-time jobs based on the Household Survey, have increased by 1.6 million from 26,3187 to 27,894K; Source: Table A.9, BLS
  • Foodstamps recipients have increased by 14.6 million from 31.567 million to 46,187 (as of April 2012); Source: USDA
  • Disability recipients have increased by 1.3 million from 7.427 million to 8.733 million; Source: Social Security Administration

Works with Firefox on the Mac!!! Yippee...

mr_clueless wrote:

Works with Firefox on the Mac!!! Yippee...

And quoting works too!

Guess I have to use Firefox on the Mac when using this site.

mr_clueless wrote:

Guess I have to use Firefox on the Mac when using this site.

Selecting Hoocoobluetwo again (without hitting the switch button) rescued Google Chrome so that reply will copy highlighted text - as suggested above by some savior. This is clearly a bug that new users will fail to understand.

but I'm Smile again.

Antipodes wrote:

I see it most often when there are large numbers of comments.

I find that if I right click the link and choose "Open link in new tab" it's a quick workaround. It also picks up the selected text.

picosec wrote:

I find that if I right click the link and choose "Open link in new tab" it's a quick workaround. It also picks up the selected text.

When I do that, it does not pick up the selected text. Sad

Antipodes wrote:

When I do that, it does not pick up the selected text.

The only thing I have found that consistently works is to refresh the page with F5, then scroll back to where you were, then try again. It's too bad that HCN loses your place when you refresh, but it seems to have something to do with the auto-update feature.

sm_landlord wrote:

The only thing I have found that consistently works is to refresh the page with F5, then scroll back to where you were, then try again. It's too bad that HCN loses your place when you refresh, but it seems to have something to do with the auto-update feature.

This has been my experience, as well. Reload the page, scroll to the comment, and try again.

Also, "Jump Into The Fray" won't jump if there's more than one page of comments.

Regarding 'medicine' and prescriptions, here in Costa Rica you can get a lot more over the counter than in the USA. No need to pay $100 to see a doctor for 3 minutes to get a prescription for amoxycilin. You can get anti depressants and even codeine over the counter. You can NOT get valium type drugs though they can be found on the street quite easily. There is always the problem of over use of antibiotics and the resistance thing, but that's limited here by the poverty... half the population can't afford even a few aspirin, or prefer to eat.

Another weird effect of the poverty is that nothing is sold in quantity. When you ask for acetaminophen they ask how many pills, not what size bottle.

An "Economic Quality" Scorecard Of The Obama Administration | ZeroHedge

Earlier today I made this:

FRED Graph - FRED - St. Louis Fed

Pink is net consumer debt take-on (YOY)

Yellow is monthly firings (up is bad)

Blue was the Fed buying MBS

Red was the Fed buying UST

Green was ARRA

Note the past tenses in the above 3, and note the scale of the 2009-2011 interventions compared to the 2002-2007 credit influx.

That is my thesis, and that is all, folks.

Comrade Troyski wrote:

Earlier today I made this:

FRED Graph - FRED - St. Louis Fed

An economic heart attack condensed into a single chart, with desperate electroshock treatment after the crash.
Try extending it back to 1990 for additional perspective.

Even though the world always has and always will take electronic dollar credits for the real goods they send to America, I predict the first trade surplus since 1976! After all, oil is cheap so the surplus is unstoppable. Snark

Romney's Hamptons fundraising:
a final dinner will take place at the Southampton estate of the billionaire industrialist David H. Koch, where the going rate for entry is $75,000 a couple and $50,000 a person." (Times)....
not only did David give me a pass on the 50k but he's going to me a lift up
there in his yacht...
YouTube - Hunt for Red State November: David H Koch takes his yacht for a spin in NY harbor Duke Point

Duke of Con Dao wrote:

not only did David give me a pass on the 50k but he's going to me a lift up

I'm so jealous.

Switch themes then switch back.

sm_landlord wrote:

seems to have something to do with the auto-update feature.

Yeah, I noticed it gets squirrelly when the comments pass 300; I refresh to give it the page break and the auto feature works again.

Duke of Con Dao wrote:

a final dinner will take place at the Southampton estate of the billionaire industrialist David H. Koch, where the going rate for entry is $75,000 a couple and $50,000 a person." (Times)....

Do same-sex couples get the "couple" rate?

Do same-sex couples get the "couple" rate?"
What? OMG
your wife is a He?

Zero hedge has it wrong. The price is $98 billion.

Rob Dawg wrote:

The price is $98 billion.

I've heard much, much higher, but they're just echoing the published number.

Duke of Con Dao wrote:

your wife is a He?

You are making an unwarranted assumption. Possibly picosec is a lesbian.

sdtfs wrote:

You are making an unwarranted assumption. Possibly picosec is a lesbian.

Trapped in a man's body.

If you're a "couple" of people carpooling together, do you get the discount and pay $75,000, or do you each have to pony up $50,000?

Tom Stone wrote:

Trapped in a man's body.

That's had a sex change.

NTTAWTT. Smile

Went Happy Birthday!!! shopping. The economy will stumble on for at least another day.

I've heard much, much higher, but they're just echoing the published number.

Yes. The big lie is that the 98 which is the official number assume tens of billions in local donations of land and stations.

Outsider wrote:

do you get the discount and pay $75,000, or do you each have to pony up $50,000?

If you have to ask, you can't afford it.

Here's a bit of a problem for Mississippi voters. If you don't have acceptable photo identification to vote, you have to have your birth certificate to get a voter ID. But you can't get your birth certificate unless you have photo identification. This is apparently a problem that state officials were well aware of, but not really doing anything about.

Even MS legislators can't be this dumb. It must be deliberate voter restrictions, worse than the poll tax (money solved that one, probably occasionally.

If you have to ask, you can't afford it.

Huh. Sometimes the rich are very frugal.

Oh fine. You're right. I can't afford that. If I could, I'd use it pay down my mortgage.

JimPortlandOR wrote:

Even MS legislators can't be this dumb.

You lead a sheltered life.

But you can't get your birth certificate unless you have photo identification.

Actually, I don't think that's true, is it? If you lose your birth certificate, don't you just write the town it came from and they send you another?

(Was that from an article somewhere? I can't find an "in reply to" to follow)

Outsider wrote:

Actually, I don't think that's true, is it? If you lose your birth certificate, don't you just write the town it came from and they send you another?

Yes. I had to do this to get a passport, because the passport agency did not like the copy that I had.

You are making an unwarranted assumption. Possibly picosec is a lesbian."
perhaps...
this I do know, picosec is an Asswipe.

Outsider wrote:

Actually, I don't think that's true, is it? If you lose your birth certificate, don't you just write the town it came from and they send you another?

Prolly in most places. But the drive is on to reduce the Dem. party to permanent minority, and MS is not the only place doing stuff. They just did it so obviously that DOJ doesn't have to make much of a case to disallow it. The law is enjoined at the moment by Fed. court, so confusion reigns.

NH just passed a photo-ID-to-vote law.

Duke of Con Dao wrote:

this I do know, picosec is an Asswipe.

You're confusing picosec with poic. They are both in the SF Bay Area, but vastly different. And I wouldn't classify either of them as you did.

edit: Well, not behind their backs. If poic was online, I might throw out a few names his way.

ant to lower health care costs, then deregulate. Time to use the Republican mantra to help ourselves.

so instead of doing what has to varying degrees worked in OECD nations all across the globe, the USA should try another randian experiment.

i personally hope the Red Team and the slightly less Red Team go for it -- it will only hasten the end of this pathetic Nemo's Monkey You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! Damn you all to hell!.

Killed by a tombstone:

A family friend says a 4-year-old boy was trying to make other children smile for a photograph when a 6-foot-tall tombstone that weighed hundreds of pounds fell on him and killed him at a historic Utah cemetery.

Somehow the sequence seems out of order.

And I wouldn't classify either of them as you did."
...
all poic ever does is lie in wait and send up trial balloons
hoping to get my goat. sadly. few ever call him on it...
if after a certain amount of pin pricks I respond
all hell breaks loose on my head...
...
as for picosec obviously you didn't see what came before
or chose not to...
a real profile in courage, you are...

black dog wrote:
pavel - half snark half uh-oh (if it occurs)

It is above 7.

I've been following the spreads on the Spanish bonds (2-year, 5-year and 10-year). The nearby rates are rising faster than the distant. If this keeps up, their yield curve will invert like Greece's did. A "bad" development.

Sebastian

Have some kids, skip getting a cold:

Researchers at Carnegie Mellon University found that those with kids were half as likely to develop colds with that number increasing with each additional child in the household.

Duke of Con Dao wrote:
a final dinner will take place at the Southampton estate of the billionaire industrialist David H. Koch, where the going rate for entry is $75,000 a couple and $50,000 a person." (Times)....
picosec wrote:
Do same-sex couples get the "couple" rate?

what happened to your post outsider?
best to read before you post... Duke Point

No, I read it, but I thought - well, maybe you took it as him making fun of you. I don't know, and I'm not getting involved in flame wars anyway. It wasn't that I didn't read the material. I read the material. I always read the material. Is there anything you'd like me to state that I've read? You can quiz me...

You testosteronians. Give me a headache. Live and let live already.

By Popular Request an On Topic Post:

My schedule is slap jam full next week; I'll tell you what.

Outsider wrote:

You testosteronians

Classic.

Outsider wrote:

I read the material. I always read the material. Is there anything you'd like me to state that I've read? You can quiz me...

Question 1. The party was on
a) Mars
b) Studio 1
c) Gov. Chris Christie's lap
d) the Koch yacht

Wrong answers will be penalized one point.

HomeGnome wrote:

robj wrote:

the Koch yacht

Apparently one of us here isn't as dim as he looks, if you can center the microscope squarely on his pointy hat.

Duke of Con Dao wrote:

all poic ever does is lie in wait and send up trial balloons
hoping to get my goat

Yes, and he does that to a couple others, too. But I would be shocked if anything I wrote in your defense would do more than increase the teasing. I tilt at windmills of my own choosing.

What the hell. For the record.
I do believe that The DCD and ex-DCD have met everyone says he has met. Further, I believe that most disbelievers have not read his comments carefully. As evidence I submit the NK ballerina, who morphed into the NK supermodel on HCN.

I went to lunch and my ears started burning.

WassupWithThat?

sdtfs wrote:

s evidence I submit the NK ballerina, who morphed into the NK supermodel on HCN.**

Dang it, she had career change surgery. Unbeliever.

Okay, Duke, I thought about it, and you're right. You were implying that he was making a comment about your sexual preference. We all know you have a girlfriend, so it was a tease. And you get criticized here a lot, and I wouldn't like that either.

So you're right.

the last 300+ comments until my retirement from this site
are becoming quite a slog...


As evidence I submit the NK ballerina"
...
she never morphed into anything other than a ballerina in my comments...
there was another person on here who talked of a NK supermodel, or something like that...
but not me...

Duke of Con Dao wrote:

the last 300+ comments until my retirement from this site
are becoming quite a slog...

Crybaby.
I already told ya whatcha need son.

So you're right."
thank you outsider...
...

Duke of Con Dao wrote:

she never morphed into anything other than a ballerina in my comments...
there was another person on here who talked of a NK supermodel, or something like that...
but not me...

Have never been in the Duke's shoes, but I'm fairly sure I would believe whatever a supermodel told me she did. Unless it was swabbing decks or such-like (edit: if she were wearing a white navy dress I'd probably suspend disbelief on the deck swabbing.).

Outsider wrote:

You were implying that he was making a comment about your sexual preference.

Whole buncha people here reading the tea leaves much too critically.

Thou doth protest too much?

i asked a question earlier then got pulled away. it's obvious people don't understand the interplay among Medicare, insurance, and providers.

Duke of Con Dao wrote:

there was another person on here who talked of a NK supermodel, or something like that...
but not me..

you just did

picosec wrote:

Whole buncha people here reading the tea leaves much too critically.

Thou doth protest too much?

So what particularly vile insinuation were you trying to make about the Duke? I was probably misled by the fact you have never commented unfavorably about anyone else,...excepting maybe those who were involved with the Berkeley property your son was in.

Outsider wrote:

Okay, Duke, I thought about it, and you're right. You were implying that he was making a comment about your sexual preference. We all know you have a girlfriend, so it was a tease.

No, no. The joke was same sex couples at the ultra conservative Koch event.

I blame the misunderstanding on the minor in psychology, a psychiatrist would have gotten the joke,...they're much funnier people.

You never did expound upon your thoughts about the LIBOR FRAUD and the effects upon the Forex.
Please continue.

Maybe you need more experience at catching the point.
Bottoms up!
Beer

HomeGnome wrote:

the effects upon the Forex.

excuse the detour, but I can't read 'Forex' without thinking sexual lubricant for foreplay.

Do you have a sheepskin in Economics?

HomeGnome wrote:

You never did expound upon your thoughts about the LIBOR FRAUD and the effects upon the Forex.
Please continue.

Didja miss my point about the windmills? Go hunt up easier prey.

Prediction of strong winds accompanying thunderstorms here in DC area as cold front moves in tomorrow afternoon.

Went through N Wisco last night - pretty intense. We lost power for five hours.

I have a credit card/debit card question. A friend says if you swipe your debit card and select "credit" as the transaction, the exact same consumer protections apply as if you used a credit card.

True?

sdtfs wrote:

So what particularly vile insinuation were you trying to make about the Duke?

I was making NO insinuation whatsoever. I was trying to be clever. And I love (or at least tolerate) all of God's children.

PS: Nice of you to notice that I'm not in the habit of trashing others. I prefer to keep doors open. I don't even remember any Berkeley trashing here.

Zero hedge has it wrong. The price is $98 billion.

Presumably before overruns.

I'm a big fan of rail later in the century. But I think if California were serious about it, they could spend half the money and get better results. Remember that the first Shinkansen maxed out at 130mph. It was only after the service proved to be successful that higher speeds were phased in.

lawyerliz wrote:

I like that.

:Roflmfao: is more like it.
Good work, Penguin.

KarmaPolice wrote:

500 million dead trees in Texas mean boom times for trimmers - U.S. News

I can't believe there were EVER 500 million trees in Texas.

Gay people scare me.
They seem way too happy.
Party

Feckless Ness wrote:

True?

HUH? I highlighted everything after "swipe", right clicked "search Google" got to:

Visa Debit/Check Card - FAQ | Personal | Visa USA

which is going to be at least as authoritative as any response here. But maybe it was a conversation starter?

volker the viking wrote:

the world is a better place now

I've been working on my inter-species skills lately, viking.
Arg!

HomeGnome wrote:

They seem way too happy.

And in too good of shape, and too well dressed. Highly suspicious...

stick with it, there are moments where I am awestruck

Thanks, sdtfs. My friend is mistaken, but I can see how someone reading Visa's FAQs would be misled.

HomeGnome wrote:

They seem way too happy.

That's why most conservatives hate them.

Wink

I thought they'd taken a wider stance.

that would account for the falling into a bottomless pit sensation

An economic heart attack condensed into a single chart, with desperate electroshock treatment after the crash.

Damn - I shouldn't have eaten all that fast food money...

picosec wrote:

I can't believe there were EVER 500 million trees in Texas.

Perhaps their state arborist is a creationist. They seem to have a problem with numbers, math, reality, and such.

Innocent

Even MS legislators can't be this dumb. It must be deliberate voter restrictions, worse than the poll tax (money solved that one, probably occasionally.

Ever been to Mississippi? It answers itself. I suggest you start at Corinth.

dryfly wrote:

Ever been to Mississippi? It answers itself.

Indeed, it does, dryfly.

HomeGnome - They seem way too happy.

Let them get married and let's see how long that last.

Kauai_Kahuna wrote:

Let them get married and let's see how long that last.

Truth!

i asked a question earlier then got pulled away. it's obvious people don't understand the interplay among Medicare, insurance, and providers.

FTR - insurers bidding on big corporate insurance accounts pay providers the worst of all. Worse than Medicare which is bad. Few companies and no individuals get that kind of a deal. Only the biggest and bestest.

HomeGnome wrote:

I've been working on my inter-species skills lately, viking.
Arg!

I saw that in a movie once...

Clerks II (2006) - IMDb

I thought I recognized your style from HBB.

Libya's first free elections marred by violence | CTVNews

Libya makes for an interesting case study ... revolution aided by the west, but without the occupation force.

I hope they can keep their shit together.

Outsider wrote:

Live and let live already.

Maybe you should address that to the proper parties. (Cue the phony "mirror" crap...)

no, Gnome, he's a GS 11 Blogging Specialist, certificated in Aggressive Blogging Techniques

Just put my double glutton salami,ham,onion,bell pepper,pineapple, 5 cheese pizza in the oven.

Gay people scare me.
They seem way too happy.

Never fear - they will be less happy when more can marry.

KK Shakes Tiny Fist of Fury

Kauai_Kahuna wrote:

Just put my double glutton salami,ham,onion,bell pepper,pineapple, 5 cheese pizza in the oven.

Throw some Spam on that pie and you have a proper Hawaiian feast.

Bubblisimo Gerkinov wrote:

I hope they can keep their shit together.

They will be praying for the resurrection of Gaddafi....you watch.

Duke of Con Dao wrote:

there was another person on here who talked of a NK supermodel, or something like that...
but not me...

Yeah, there is a lot of that. One flamer starts a false rumor or distorts one's post , then it gets passed around among the idiots. Then you have to waste energy correcting the ordinary readers who accept it as fact. Tiresome is right.

I heard you hand jobbed the shop boss.
I forget who said it.

KarmaPolice - am on that pie and you have a proper Hawaiian feast.

Spam is just ham that could not pass the physical, but it is great for some snacks, in noodles, and a loco mocho would make anyone happy, except for those neurotic vegans.

What are you pairing with this supa pizza pie?

IPA?

No, I think I remember picosec being an obnoxious prick on other occasions.

Good aft, fellow muppets.

Iowa still there? Big storms in Minnie and Wisco last night.

HomeGnome - IPA?

It's not even noon HG! Lets take a coffee break

But later today I will be racking and kegging an IPA, Pale ale, and Heffe so I'll be doing some taste testing.

I just looked at Mississippi's voter ID requirements.
It states you must have one of the following, a current and valid
photo ID, a birth certificate, a current utility bill showing name and
address, or a drivers license. Unless the law has changed recently
and the website wasn't updated, I don't see the problem. Go ahead
and pile on.

Grab an Old-fashioned and pull up a chair:

"Nicholas Shaxson delves into the murky world of offshore finance, revealing loopholes that allow the very wealthy to skirt tax laws, and investigating just how much o fRomney’s fortune (with $30 million in Bain Capital funds in the Cayman Islands alone?) looks pretty strange for a presidential candidate.

Investigation: Mitt Romney’s Offshore Accounts, Tax Loopholes, and Mysterious I.R.A. | Politics | Vanity Fair 

Kauai_Kahuna wrote:

It's not even noon HG!

I forget that you are so far behind.
Wink

No, no I never believed that story about you no matter how many times it was repeated. Don't worry.

Bromance is brewing in the econ-blog sphere?:
Econbrowser: Current economic conditions

Maybe we'll see CR on the Koch yacht.

sporkfed wrote:

I don't see the problem. Go ahead
and pile on.

Abraham Lincoln did the USA a great disservice.

Wink

Kauai_Kahuna wrote:

It's not even noon HG!

Breakfast pizza!

Antipodes wrote:

Breakfast pizza!

That deserves a Beer in my abode.

You're having a slipping problem? Your arms too short to grab anything?

KarmaPolice wrote:

They will be praying for the resurrection of Gaddafi....you watch.

The fact that the Curses! Oiled again! is flowing is a good sign ... prosperity begets peace.

In the fall of 2002, everyone in the Gulf knew the invasion of Iraq was iminent. There were stories in the UAE papers about the land rush on the Iraqi/Kuwaiti border. The logic being that once Sadam was gone, sanctions woul be lifted and the Curses! Oiled again! wealth would flow. All that pent up consumerism would need a release, so Kuwaitis were banking on creating shopping resorts just across the border.

They didn't count on L Paul Bremer and the neocon idealogues. Placating Iraq would've been hard enough, but the CPA ensured that it was a disaster.

You could be right about Libya ... time will tell.

HomeGnome wrote:

That deserves a Beer in my abode.

A white pizza... Sausage gravy, perhaps?

1 currency now -yogi wrote:

One flamer starts a false rumor or distorts one's post

Definitely need that logarithmic irony meter.

Definitely.

Antipodes wrote:

Sausage gravy, perhaps?

Now see....I had a strata and hashbrowns for breakfast this morning.

All smothered in sausage gravy

Om-nom-nom-nom

1 currency now -yogi wrote:

Yup. Like I said.

Maybe even a log(log()) one for you.

No, no. The joke was same sex couples at the ultra conservative Koch event.

Oh. Well see? That's why I deleted my original comment.

My motto is: don't get involved. I tripped up this time, but I'm sticking to it from now on.

Bless your heart. I come here mainly to read your brilliant commentary, Eric, but this other stuff is too distracting.

HomeGnome wrote:

All smothered in sausage gravy

Sounds good, doesn't it? Home-made breakfast sausage browned in a pan and added to a thick béchamel... The sausage gravy browned in spots... Om-nom-nom-nom

Ive been away. Did I miss anything?

Dumped! A bad week for the hoopajoops. I blame the economy - she couldn't settle down because she couldn't find a job or career and didn't feel comfortable with someone as a dependant woman.

Ive been away. Did I miss anything?

DNRTT (Do not read the thread)

Texas is a big place. There are a lot of trees here.

1 currency now -yogi wrote:

Bless your heart.

I love you too, yogi.

I love you too, yogi.

eharmony.com

The history of my former party in the fight to expand citizens' franchisement "is a proud one." So why are they purging voter rolls and passing onerous voter ID laws?

What is the difference between then and now? I would argue they took the neo-Confederates/Bible Belt into the party fold & that they are now running things.

And before you hammer me for this opinion, I would remind you that my family hails from two of the most unrepentant Confederate regions of the U.S. in TX and SC., and I was raised in the Southern Baptist tradition.

The GOP "was in the forefront of the fight to allow freed slaves in the South and landless immigrants in the North to cast ballots" & secured enactment in 1870 of the 15th Amendment, which declared that “the right of U.S. citizens to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.” ...

"Republicans controlled the US House and Senate when the Nineteenth Amendment, expanding the franchise to include women, was finally submitted to the states... Republican senators had to overcome a Democratic filibuster to advance the cause of women’s suffrage." ...

"It was a Republican president, Richard Nixon, who wrote to Congress in 1970 expressing his strong support for a constitutional amendment extending the right to vote to 18-, 19- and 20-year-olds."

Vetoing Voter ID Is the (Historically) Republican Thing to Do | The Nation

I see we're getting an early jump on HCN Flamewar Midnight Madness.

Paradigm Lost wrote:

SC

You're telling ME?

HA!
Laughable!

Bubblisimo Gerkinov wrote:

You could be right about Libya ... time will tell.

Egypt isn't doing so well. And your right, time will tell. Perhaps a couple thousand years.

Paradigm Lost wrote:

Flamewar

Are the over happy people fighting?
Innocent

yeah, there was some civil unrest in Detroit that spilled over into a confrontation with police, and the fire department took a pass on dousing the fires, and several people were shot dead live on teevee

other than that, not much

HomeGnome wrote:

That deserves a Beer in my abode.

What a Drunk.

Something about a pot talking to a kettle comes to mind.

Dear Mr. Pot,

YOU'RE DRUNK!

Beer me,
Mr. Kettle

What a Hammerhead.

Consider yourself BEERED.

Dryfly: Blew right over the top of us. Not a whisper of storms in my neck of the woods. Hot and still. We have come down about 8 degrees, which is a blessin'. We need the rain, tho. Garden is stressing and the corn is high, higher than it should be. My flowers and herbs are about 4-6 weeks ahead of schedule in blooming and going to seed. Even the mums are reading to pop. I'll have no blooms in late Aug. and Sept. this year.

"Spam is just ham that could not pass the physical"

In TX we call it, redneck caviar.

KarmaPolice wrote:

Egypt isn't doing so well.

Egypt's chief source of income is American foriegn aid.

And your right, time will tell. Perhaps a couple thousand years.

I don't have that long ... I think it would be an amazing place to visit.

Bubblisimo Gerkinov wrote:

Egypt's chief source of income is American foriegn aid.

That needs to stop. Just like foreign aid to Israel.

and you commenting on hcn?

tg's link above doesn't paint a very rosey picture though.

KarmaPolice wrote:

That needs to stop. Just like foreign aid to Israel.

Nobody said imperialism came cheap.

Off time as you serious folks get back on so I am gone. Ignore a lot of the above, but I do think some might find mine interesting.

Hoopajoops LTD wrote:

she couldn't settle down because...

Or, as a woman whose role model for relationships was her "pushy father," maybe she was tired of waiting for you to take charge instead of letting her make all the life decisions for both of you.

KarmaPolice wrote:

Bubblisimo Gerkinov wrote:
Egypt's chief source of income is American foriegn aid.
That needs to stop. Just like foreign aid to Israel.

I'm sure the Russians or Chinese would be glad to take over in exchange for a naval base on the Mediterranean.

I guess Detroit doesn't get coverage in the US any more.

Detroit facing arson rampage as hundreds of buildings destroyed - thestar.com

Arson rampage is not fun. My father grew up in the Bronx.

Bubblisimo Gerkinov wrote:

Nobody said imperialism came cheap.

At least the Belgians stripped The Congo of diamonds, gold, and silver.

I am not sure what the US is getting from either Israel or Egypt other than a place to dump a lot of subsidized military equipment.

KarmaPolice wrote:

At least the Belgians stripped The Congo of diamonds, gold, and silver.

I am not sure what the US is getting from either Israel or Egypt other than a place to dump a lot of subsidized military equipment.

Marinade on that thought for a second, son.

Paradigm Lost wrote:

My flowers and herbs are about 4-6 weeks ahead of schedule

the earth is in motion

God only knows where we all end up

so far, this has been the easy part

"For all you royalists who read and post on CR"

Pavel: It must have been grand to be one of the 0.001% in 17th-18th cent. France.

volker the viking wrote:

God

Who dat, brees.

This is the Detroit Fire Department’s 11,217th run this year and it is only June.

So they will face layoffs and a pay cut.

I wonder if that guy who bout the Silverdome for a few hundred grand is having remorse...

Haralambos wrote:

but I do think some might find mine interesting.

We ALWAYS find yours interesting. Please keep it coming!

1 currency now -yogi wrote:

Detroit facing arson rampage as hundreds of buildings destroyed - thestar.com

From the article:

“People on Facebook are saying the city is trying to expand the downtown. That would make sense — get rid of all this nonsense, all these vacant abandoned buildings and rebuild, remodel.”

"I guess they figure it’s cheaper to burn it up than to bulldoze it,” says 30-year-old Manley, who lives and works in Highland Park, a municipality that is part of greater Detroit.

Mathematically, he has a point.

If the city’s demolition squads were able to tear down more than 3,000 buildings a year — an extraordinary number that would require dismantling at least a dozen buildings every working day — it would take Detroit 25 years to rid itself of this detritus."

Yes and yes.

Wink

"Dumped! "

Oh, noooo...Hoops! I have no platitudes to give you here, except sometimes it's karma...not meant to be. Other roads traveled.

Gnomie: Where are you? Mine's Edgefield County. Just look it up and get a load of it's rep.

It sounds like she did the best thing for both of you. Now quit feeling sorry for yourself (your perennial state) and take responsibility for your life. Make a goddamned decision. If you don't like it, make another one.

Paradigm Lost wrote:

Oh, noooo...Hoops! I have no platitudes to give you here

Never fear,...if he needs any I can supply 'em. Relationships are tricky.

sdtfs wrote:

Relationships are tricky.

Good one.

sdtfs wrote:

Relationships are tricky.

it takes a confrontation and thorough examination of your fears if it is to work

Haralambos: I read everything you post, in fact, I look for it. The Greeks are in depression and I believe just a bit ahead of the rest of us all over the world. It's "deflation" not 'flation, muppets.

volker the viking wrote:

a confrontation and thorough examination of your fears

good times

it takes a confrontation and thorough examination of your fears if it is to work

What? I never did that.

Takes a lot of denial and a willingness to suffer.

There. Fixed It For Ya

Outsider wrote:

What? I never did that.

That's what it takes for the testosteronians, apparently.

I was only kidding, btw.

:yikes:

The Toronto reporter actually went to the trouble of investigating:

The conventional wisdom is that local people set these fires for kicks, revenge or to burn out local crack dealers using the bulidings.

But Vincent Clanton is having none of that — and instead puts forward a disturbing theory.

“Small-minded people automatically go for the stereotype, you know, ‘Oh, these people are just bad in the neighbourhood. They just burn their own s--- up and f--- up their own neighbourhood,’” he says.

“But, no. That ain’t the case. We live here. We grew up here. Our families are here.

“We sit up at night and talk about this all the time. For a series of fires like this, guys around here don’t even have the resources to pull anything like this off.

“I think people who are far above our heads have something to do with this,” says Clanton.

Brantley concedes he has no proof but he too believes arsonists are being paid so that private interests can buy tracts of land at deep discount prices, then sell them profitably once downtown Detroit grows.

“Once the market comes back, they can make a lot of money.”

“I mean fire happens — but not in one area all the time,” he says.

In the Bronx, they had to wait a real long time for the "comeback". More likely garden-variety insurance fraud or write-off on top of general decay.

Outsider wrote:

Takes a lot of denial and a willingness to suffer.

Yep, my wife knows I'll never remarry. Innocent Not even if same sex marriage is legalized.

Of course, he didn't say s--- or f---. That's Toronto talking.

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