Summary for Week ending July 6th

****NN,

We didn't get any damage, thank you. And actually, mostly we got wind. We are in that high pressure thingy that has contributed to dry conditions, and we have not gotten out of it yet. It is similar to several years ago when we had a severe drought. I hope things won't get that bad, but we are watering the garden and the trees we put in the yard this winter.

Employers Get More From U.S. Workers as Jobs Gain Lags Forecast - Bloomberg

"Companies in the U.S. are relying on existing workers and temporary employees instead of hiring, helping to explain why payrolls grew less than forecast in June.

The average workweek rose for the first time since February and temporary staffing climbed for a third consecutive month, according to Labor Department figures issued in Washington yesterday. The report also showed payrolls advanced by 80,000 workers, less than the median estimate in a Bloomberg News survey of economists, and the jobless rate held at 8.2 percent.

“Firms are still seeing an increase in demand, and there is a need for more labor,” said Nigel Gault, chief U.S. economist at IHS Global Insight in Lexington, Massachusetts. “But there are so many risks out there that businesses don’t want to commit to hiring full-time employees.”

...Yes, part time is where the action is..

S&P Says Rising Euro Recession Risk Requires Government Action - Bloomberg

Deleveraging is “pushing towards recession and stagnation and the risk of a double dip has increased,” S&P’s Jean-Michel Six said in an interview in Aix-en-Provence, France. “Most economies are either in recession again -- such as Spain and Italy -- or very close to recession -- such as France and even Germany.”
To counter the slowdown, European governments should move as quickly as possible to implement an agreement by European leaders to counter the debt crisis, he said. “Execution is key,” Six said. The agreement “provides breathing space, let’s use it. We don’t have a lot of time, we have to act.”

Got Popcorn?

This EU so-called 'growth pact' is window dressing at best. It like seeing yourself as just a little bit pregnant. The germans allowed just enough hype in the plan so that they could appear to be in unity, but not enough substance to make any real difference. The water is swirling down the drain (world-wide), but lack of substance of what to do about is clear.

I'm waiting for the (first) shoe to drop, since they appear to be doing nothing except making things worse.

Good to see our resident Vermonsters and New Hampsters doing what Yankess do, persevering.

Rob Dawg:

Good to see our resident Vermonsters and New Hampsters doing what Yankess do, persevering.

Until the rivers are boiling, everything is just fine. Have a beer or a lemonade!

JimPortlandOR wrote:

Have a beer or a lemonade!

West coast heathen! Hard Cider is WAY better than Beer

Wink

West coast heathen! Hard Cider is WAY better than beer

I've nothing against hard cider, BUT, get serious!

62 degree morning! Haven't seen <70F in over a week. Shakes Tiny Fist of Fury

Lets take a coffee break time...

JimPortlandOR wrote:

get serious!

arrrumph! No need to make beer distribution kings and queens wealthier. Alternative brews will do.

It's already 85 here in New York. It's a good thing I'll be outside and drinking today.

Lets take a coffee break.

Looks like yogi was drunk again last night.....

Whiskey wrote:

It's already 85 here in New York. It's a good thing I'll be outside and drinking today.

Dehydration and heatstroke FTW!!

HCNs very own starry-eyed, soft and fluffy romantic! lol

Yes, but first I need to get in an intense exercise class this morning, just to make sure staying hydrated is a challenge.

Dammit, I missed another aspiefight last night?

Whiskey wrote:

Yes, but first I need to get in an intense exercise class this morning, just to make sure staying hydrated is a challenge.

Laughing out loud You could go run a couple of miles in sweats first.

Ugh... 85 and climbing in NY?... water is your friend.

ResistanceIsFeudal wrote:

Dammit, I missed another aspiefight last night?

That's what's great about the internet. You can definitely go re-read it.

Definitely.

ResistanceIsFeudal wrote on Sat, 7/7/2012 - 6:14 am
Dammit, I missed another aspiefight last night?

An ELIZA program with f-bombs.

58 deg now but 102 by lunch as lunch will be in Vegas.

Eric wrote:

That's what's great about the internet. You can definitely go re-read it.
Definitely.

So can lawyers, FBI/CIA/NSA/DHS profilers and future historians!

HCN needs some culled aspie fights posted as historical ref. material and for good laughs. Just the protagonists, although that can be more than two.

Rob Dawg wrote:

s lunch will be in Vegas

Put it all on 4.

JimPortlandOR wrote on Sat, 7/7/2012 - 6:20 am
HCN needs some culled aspie fights posted as historical ref. material and for good laughs. Just the protagonists, although that can be more than two.

Ken used to allow filters showing only selected authors. It was a hoot.

HELLO. I AM DR. SBAITSO. HOW ARE YOU FEELING TODAY?

FTicking time bomb YOU!

HMM... AND WHY IS IT THAT YOU FEEL THIS WAY?

FTicking time bomb YOU!

THAT'S INTERESTING. MAYBE WE SHOULD EXPLORE FURTHER WHY YOU SAID 'FTicking time bomb YOU'?

FTicking time bomb YOU!

I'M NOT SURE WE'RE MAKING ANY PROGRESS HERE. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT MIGHT BE ON YOUR MIND?

the language of love

Rob Dawg wrote:

58 deg now but 102 by lunch as lunch will be in Vegas.

Hey, if you're travelling that means ... iPad with autocomplete!!

It's already 85 here in New York. It's a good thing I'll be outside and drinking today.

There is purportedly a cold front slowly working its way toward you ... if it doesn't stall out or turn around and head North. It's in the high 70s with oppressive humidity here in the Burlington, VT suburbs (Or the magnificent Green Mountain Foothills as the CoC would have it) Hopefully things will dry out a bit later in the day.

Good morning. Lets take a coffee break

80F at 6:30 am. going to 111 today.

Ouch, josap. That's just too hot for too long. It makes you kinda stir crazy after awhile.

ResistanceIsFeudal wrote on Sat, 7/7/2012 - 6:24 am (in reply to...)
Rob Dawg wrote:
58 deg now but 102 by lunch as lunch will be in Vegas.
Hey, if you're travelling that means ... iPad with autocomplete!!

Autoerotica? Wattage effort arbitrage abound?

tg wrote:

the language of love

LISTEN No one 17 and under admittedSUCKER, I'M GODNo one 17 and under admitted DOCTOR SBAITSO AND THE CLOCK IS RUNNING. WE CAN SIT HERE ALL DAY FOR ALL I CARE, CUZ YOU'RE PAYING FOR EVERY WASTED MINUTE OF IT, MOTHERNo one 17 and under admittedER

I forget which command line argument turns on that mode.

Who knew Florida would be the State to go cool off in?

Off to work with me, see you all later.

Rob Dawg wrote:

Autoerotica? Wattage effort arbitrage abound?

New Keyboard
pERCOsET hAS NOthiNG ON aUTOCoMPLeTE!!1!!

Yep, there's an ice glacier forming in the everglades and moving toward the east coast. Millions of kilowatts of elec. will be saved by people going to the glacier to chip off some ice-chest ice.

time for some breakfast... mmm gluten!!!

later!

Chris Hedges: Time to Get Crazy -
Chris Hedges' Columns -
Truthdig

And as we face similar forces of predatory, unchecked corporate power intent on ruthless exploitation and stripping us of legal and physical protection, we must confront how we will respond.

Good thing I am leaving this miserable State. WASS

California already licenses furniture upholsterers, private investigators and recreation guides.
Now it wants to regulate pet groomers.

California bill seeks certification for pet groomers - latimes.com

We're supposed to get rain this evening, but the highs are projected to reach 98 degrees. Always good when you live on top of a giant slab of concrete.

Bruce in Tennessee wrote:

"Companies in the U.S. are relying on existing workers and temporary employees instead of hiring, helping to explain why payrolls grew less than forecast in June.

Fo good or bad, that piece of news can be linked to the coming universal health care plan if the temporary hiring is happening at buisnesses with near or over 50 employees.

Now it wants to regulate pet groomers.

Can you imagine the consequences if just any random person without certified training and skills could trim the toenails on your dachsund?

Rob Dawg wrote:

Good thing I am leaving this miserable State. WASS

California already licenses furniture upholsterers, private investigators and recreation guides.
Now it wants to regulate pet groomers.

California bill seeks certification for pet groomers - latimes.com

Real Estate agents, not so much. Corporate Real Estate companies depend on milking newbies for much of their profit.

Now it wants to regulate pet groomers.
Can you imagine the consequences if just any radom person without certified training and skills could trim the toenails on your dachsund?

What next? Regulation run rampant? Go down the list all the way to bankers and realtors?

Edit: Shakes Tiny Fist of Fury Tom!

................. and spanish 10yr yield back around 7%

Rob Dawg wrote:

What next? Regulation run rampant? Go down the list all the way to bankers and realtors?

The model of Realogy (See who they own) depends on a low bar to entry for sales agents. 90% are gone within 2 years, average # of sales is 2. They suck a lot of fees out of Trump wannabes.

Dawg. Realogy is Coldwell banker, Artisan Sotheby's and Better Homes and Gardens among others. A BIG chunk of the biz.

The model of Realogy (See who they own) depends on a low bar to entry for sales agents. 90% are gone within 2 years, average # of sales is 2. They suck a lot of fees out of Trump wannabes.

Interesting. Will look into it. Seems the whole industry is about extraction not production or value added. How you stalwarts shoulder the burden for the rest is beyond the labors Hercules.

YouTube - UK Parliament Questions Barclay's CEO Bob Diamond: Complicity or Incompetence? Which is it?

even if theatre ... stunning contrast to the way senate fawned over dimon recently

Realogy title services companies.
TRG Family of Companies - Title Resource Group

The squidlet has many tentacles.

josap wrote:

80F at 6:30 am. going to 111 today.

And a good morning to you. Here at Donner Lake the outside temp is 49 degrees headed for mid to high 70's. Winds currently calm with only a few water skiers out on the lake. The maddening crowds of the 4th are gone, thank glod! The fireworks were a hoot as we sat directly under the explosions. I expect you can escape to Flagstaff just as we escape to Donner and enjoy the same type weather.

tg wrote:

Land Destroyer: If the US Loses Syria, the US Loses its Empire

Glod what a hoot! Reminds me of my childhood and the arguments over who lost China. So much bullshit and so many young lives lost.

Eric
why do you write such bullshit...
Looks like yogi was drunk again last night.....""
...
Proof?

The germans allowed just enough hype in the plan so that they could appear to be in unity, but not enough substance to make any real difference.

yep ... i look at it as they know a divorce coming (unless countries bend to their will on fiscal union) ... but will still live in the same house afterwards ... need to go through motions of appearing to have tried everything to remedy to make post divorce livable.

Nanoo-Nanoo wrote:

West coast heathen! Hard Cider is WAY better than Beer

Aye.. Driving up the PCH / 101 a decade and a half ago - came across this road sign saying CIDER for sale ( as a West of England Univerzity man hell yeah I want zider YouTube - The Wurzels Cider Drinker promo )

Wife cautions as she sees flies in the ointment that I sometimes don't so I ask - has it got alcohol in it ?

lady PROUDLY tells us -

Of course not

like the NOTW reporter we made our excuses and left

Proof?

He got snippy with Liz.

even if theatre " blackdog
...
that's why I took the time to tape it and put it up on YouTube...
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perhaps it's due to the way we finance campaigns and the way the Brits finance campaigns... Duke Point
...
also, it's also part of their tradition over there... see the Prime Minister's Question Hour for some real barbed attacks.
you do know what that line on the Parliament floor is all about ???

Rob Dawg wrote:

Seems the whole industry is about extraction not production or value added. How you stalwarts shoulder the burden for the rest is beyond the labors Hercules.

Pig headed. And oddly enough I find I enjoy it.

Liz?
she's a viper in her own right... she plays her game...

no

combatants do not cross?

Wow. Is that landdestroyer article an indication Bagdad Bob has a new job?

Dawg, I'll be writing about Kayo Hallinan's country place later this weekend. I'll send you a link.

combatants do not cross?
...
the length of 2 drawn swords... can't have sword fighting in Parliament

the man was ahead of his time

This should help manufacturing of the "defense" category:
"The country's central bank says it needs more than $4bn in aid each year, on top of $4bn for security forces.

A senior British official described the task of raising that money at the Tokyo conference as an unprecedented challenge,

Afghanistan is seeking firm commitments, but donors at Tokyo's meeting are also seen as likely to demand guarantees from Kabul on good governance and transparency." BBC News - Hillary Clinton says Afghanistan 'major non-Nato ally'

And probably make it easier for the Taliban to get hold of some newer US military stuff.

LIeBOR Gets Interesting As Regulatory Capture Reverses Itself In England | ZeroHedge

You see, what many believe to be a UK bank thing can drag these big American banks deeper, much deeper, into the quagmire. Beware, the F.I.R.E.! The F.I.R.E. Is Set To Blaze! Focus On Banks, part 1

Quick, fetch a pail!

Duke of Con Dao wrote:

and the way the Brits finance campaigns...

errrr like this -

Conservative Party co-treasurer Peter Cruddas has resigned after secretly filmed footage showed him apparently offering access to the prime minister for a donation of £250,000 a year.He made the claim to Sunday Times reporters posing as potential donors.

He said £250,000 gave "premier league" access, including dinner with David Cameron and possibly the chance to influence government policy.

The Labour Party is not different. as regards the Liberal party - Jeremy Thorpe pulled a "Edwards" - getting donors to pony up for the PARTY - said money went to - taa daaa pay the contract killer frightener of Thorpe's whiny homosexual lover who wanted MOAH MOAH MOAH and when rebuffed wanted to expose the relationship.

Sordid, man, the LOT of them.

The UK IS different. I think its cos of the vibrant Auntie Beeb and the broadsheet non-Dirty Digger independent press - Grauniad and Torygraph - + mainly a psyche of a significant middle-class elite of Wesleyite ( perhaps earlier? ) caring for the poor, the excluded etc..

Duke of Con Dao wrote:

why do you write such bullshit...

I think we're going to need an irony meter with a log scale.

I think we're going to need an irony meter with a log scale.
...
I am sorry my life hasn't been depressingly pedestrian like yours.

dilbert dogbert wrote:

I expect you can escape to Flagstaff

Yes. my sister lives there.
However, she is at our place this weekend.
Eye surgery.

Eric wrote:

I think we're going to need an irony meter with a log scale.

Hahaha, nice! Laughing out loud

Rob Dawg wrote:

Seems the whole industry is about extraction not production or value added.

Im shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!

Duke of Con Dao wrote:

Proof?

At least 80 and the good stuff...

Eric wrote:

I think we're going to need an irony meter with a log scale.

11 just isn't going to cut it anymore...

Unadjusted BLS Jobs Numbers Are Even Worse

While Wall Street and the Obama administration were greatly disappointed in the 80,000 new jobs added in June and the seasonally adjusted unemployment rate remaining at 8.2%, the unadjusted BLS results show an even bleaker employment picture.

According to the BLS Household Survey, on an unadjusted basis, the number of unemployed Americans increased by 913,000 in June. At the same time, the number of employed Americans increased 475,000 as the total workforce increased by 1.4 million. As a result, the unadjusted unemployment rate increased to 8.4% in June from 7.9% in May and the participation rate increased to 64.3% from 63.8%. In sharp contrast, the government's seasonal adjustments produced an unemployment rate of 8.2% in June -- unchanged from May -- and also left the participation rate unchanged at 63.8%.

In sum, the BLS unadjusted results show a much more serious and worsening jobs situation than implied by the seasonally adjusted data.

Gallup.Com - The Behavioral Economy by Dennis Jacobe

And probably make it easier for the Taliban to get hold of some newer US military stuff.

My understanding is that the Taliban doesn't have that much problem acquiring equipment. Just join the army or police. Get fed and trained. And the government gives you your very own personal firearm to take with you when you desert back to your Taliban unit.

more from the Huffington profile on

Profile: Arianna Huffington - S.H.A.M.E. Project 

Although the surface of Arianna's career is marked by well-publicized "conversions," a closer look reveals consistent patterns of labor exploitation, strategic plagiarism, deception and hucksterism—all of which became important elements in the Huffington Post's lucrative business model.

equally amazing -

The Huffington Post has auctioned off unpaid internships to the highest bidder. "Jumpstart your career in the blogsphere," said one listing for an internship, where students paid upwards of $13,000 to win "an eye-opening internship at The Huffington Post in New York or Washington."

Profile: Arianna Huffington - S.H.A.M.E. Project 

the company I'm at will also have interns shortly - the company is paying THEM ! are we bad business people ? Nope,nope nope.. its good business IMO.

Slide rules don't ever have register overflows.

CR said: "This was below expectations of 52.0%. This suggests manufacturing contracted in June for the first time since July 2009."

My discussion with mp (about nominal PMI) got me started looking more closely at the ISM manufacturing report. Here's how the ISM interprets the composite index:

"Diffusion indexes have the properties of leading indicators and are convenient summary measures showing the prevailing direction of change and the scope of change. A PMI reading above 50 percent indicates that the manufacturing economy is generally expanding; below 50 percent indicates that it is generally declining. A PMI in excess of 42.6 percent, over a period of time, indicates that the overall economy, or gross domestic product (GDP), is generally expanding; below 42.6 percent, it is generally declining. The distance from 50 percent or 42.6 percent is indicative of the strength of the expansion or decline."

ISM - ISM Report - November 2009 Manufacturing ISM Report On Business® 

So the current reading of 49.7 means that manufacturing is only just declining [ my edit ], and it would have to drop all the way down to 42.6 in order to indicate a decline in the overall economy.

We're still quite a ways from recession.

Sebastian
p.s. Welcome back, Nanoo-Nanoo. S.

I hate to break it to you HCN'ers but this is the Internet.
When they make a breath-alyzer app let me know...
until then....
...
LawyerLiz?
reputable?
she's the kind that'd give you a shankie in the prison chow line.

U.S. designates Afghanistan a major ally, creates defense ties - CNN.com

(CNN) -- The United States named Afghanistan a major non-NATO ally Saturday, clearing the way for the two countries to maintain a defense and economic relationship even as American combat troops withdraw.

Words fail me.

"Words fail me."

I wish, just once, they failed Duke.

the idea that liborgate will somehow be used to bring down the big banks is just plain laughable to me. trade accordingly.

poic
your words, yesterday - 'a Chinese women expects her husband to have a job... (paraphrase)
...
no, her family expects her husband to have a job. her choice has little to do with it...
...
I am sure they are dinging you left and right... central problem? you're not MOT

There is no fixing or winning Afghanistan. 2500 years of empires have made that same mistake of hubris.

You drinking this early in the day? You make absolutely no sense.

Just was over at Econobrowser and seems they read CR and use his graphs. They do credit CR. Good on them.

Duke of Con Dao wrote:

she's the kind that'd give you a shankie in the prison chow line.

whoah.. not bad but measures of humans are comparative no ? the rhetoric ran ahead of the facts there ? not when there's people like Arianna around :

Arianna Huffington on Building Her Huffington Post-AOL Empire -- New York Magazine

on the other, is the world’s best bullshit artist, with stagehands and pulleys at work in conversation...unapologetic linkbait (stories like... “Sex With Animals Can Lead to Penis Cancer: Study”),

okokok I did a bit of linkbait there - EXCEPT I didn't link to it !

RockyR wrote:

the idea that liborgate will somehow be used to bring down the big banks is just plain laughable to me. trade accordingly.

Concur. At this point, and not that I approve, it will be a PR scandal more than an existential crisis.

Duke of Con Dao wrote:

LawyerLiz?
reputable?
she's the kind that'd give you a shankie in the prison chow line.

It's your razor sharp judgement of character that has allowed you to survive such a harrowing life. I am sure many others here are equally grateful for the insights you share.

MOT = member of tribe
...
Chinese have no clue what citizenship means. Either your MOT or your not.
how much of your hard earned cash is shipped to your familial yellow tide?

Rob Dawg wrote:

There is no fixing or winning Afghanistan. 2500 years of empires have made that same mistake of hubris.

This time it's different! Oh, wait.

Duke of Con Dao wrote:

Chinese have no clue what citizenship means. Either your MOT or your not.
how much of your hard earned cash is shipped to your familial yellow tide?

quit it Duke Point that is perilously close to racist shit ( and yer knowledge of Cambodia does not give you a pass ) - and besides family is always left alone..

What I think people need to understand is that the financial system - the wall street apparatchik - is fully corrupt and built to bilk them and that no government on earth is going to stop them.

People need to understand this, and trade (in every meaning of that word) accordingly.

tg wrote:

Up to 250,000 Bees Killed at Hayes Valley Farm - San Francisco News - The Snitch

why?

Possibly for some of the same reasons that motivated the people who killed these & other shorebirds. Eight seabirds found mowed down on beach near Gearhart | OregonLive.com

name a company, today, you would buy and hold for 15 years without reinvesting any of it's earnings so you can recover your investment.

This is way OT, but I need to get it out there. Anyone else affected by the extreme weather events that are taking place? Our little town escaped the largest wildfire in NM's history, only to be followed by the threat of "massive" flooding. The threat was drummed up by something called the BAER team (burned area emergency response) who used computer models to try to tell us what would happen. Now, after two emergency evacuation notices by the sheriff's office (and no water in the creek), the sheriff's office is now calling me for the weather report. The people who decide these things are way off in some office in DC (NWS and USGS) and they use computer models to decide what's happening here, without any ground truthing. And they cover their butt by erring on the side of fear. Some people have heard we will have a 20 foot wall of water coming at us, and many have simply abandoned their homes. So far we have had what I can see is "normal" runoff from the monsoons (except, of course, that it is black). The amount of fear, anxiety and rumors going around is astonishing. I am working with a local geologist to try and get accurate information out to folks. The other night we had an inch and a half of rain...it rained locally, not up in the mountains. One person who had put sand bags all around the entrances to his "fort" (seven foot high adobe blocks around his compound), ended up with three feet of water in his "fort" because the water couldn't get out. It is simply craziness here.

vtcodger wrote:

My understanding is that the Taliban doesn't have that much problem acquiring equipment.

I was thinking newer & larger equipment if Afghanistan is a "special US ally" and qualifies to be sold more recent US military stuff.

I think this has been the second episode at a community farm in th bay area

vtcodger wrote:

economic relationship

poppies & pipelines?

"quit it that is perilously close to racist shit ( and yer knowledge of Cambodia does not give you a pass ) - and besides family is always left alone.."

I've come to expect this from Duke. Pretty sad if you ask me.

tg wrote:

I think this has been the second episode at a community farm in th bay area

It could be a copycat or is the land desireable for other "development" or uses?

'Stressed' Bank of England official stabbed self to death - Telegraph

The body of Christopher Dymond, 52, was discovered in a secluded car park in Herongate, Essex, after his family had reported him missing.
A post-mortem revealed Mr Dymond died from self-inflicted stab wounds to his chest and cuts to his arms.
Mr Dymond is believed to have been heavily involved in the transfer of responsibility and power for bank regulation from the Financial Services Authority to the Bank of England in the weeks leading up to his death in his role managing IT services.

Words fail me.

daggummit ... them poppy fields are OURS ... (or, at least, the CIA's) ...

There is no fixing or winning Afghanistan. 2500 years of empires have made that same mistake of hubris.

Agreed. Though the Russians and Chinese are probably thrilled to see us stuck in the brier patch. Now, it's an "ally". I don't think Clinton understands the meaning of the word.

Duke, don't make me come out there and head butt you into reality..

"My understanding is that the Taliban doesn't have that much problem acquiring equipment"

Apr 28, 2011

"....ancient Pashtun tribe to which most of the Taliban belong?

The Pashtun, who date back at least to the third century BC, have been immortalized in song, story and poem (Rudyard Kipling) and grudgingly acknowledged as forces to be reckoned with by no less than Winston Churchill.

The British suffered a shocking defeat to Pashtuns in the 18th century. The Soviet Union left after a futile 10-year battle to control Afghanistan. Many historians have called the Pashtun the world's only unconquered tribe, although technically that's not true.

Pashtun make up the biggest ethnic group in Afghanistan, and there are plenty of Pashtun, like President Hamid Karzai, who oppose the Taliban. Their tribal code, called Pashtunwali, has been equally romanticized. Its tenets to uphold rule and honor involve protecting to the death anyone who seeks refuge with you.

The Taliban are now a much bigger and more complex movement than the group formed in the aftermath of the 10-year war with the Soviet Union. There is now even a separate, Pakistani-led Taliban force."

Exploring the Taliban's Ties to the Pashtun Tribe

did I say yellow tide... oops, I meant red tide.
...
let''s say I'm a Loser American who can't buy a date in the States
what to do?
head to Asia.
China or Vietnam will do nicely.
head out to the countryside and find a girl
1/3 your age.
consult with elders in hierarchy...
hand over 7 grand and poof
you got yourself a bride...
...

I was thinking newer & larger equipment if Afghanistan is a "special US ally" and qualifies to be sold more recent US military stuff.

We can sell them drones? And death rays? And stealth fighters. (Sell? To Afghan? They can Pay? With what? Opium?)

AFAICS, the Taliban is the only organization in Afghanistan with the discipline and organization to use sophisticated military equipment. But I suppose big ticket hardware means big ticket bribes and corruption, so I suppose the equipment will support the government even if the Army/police don't have the slightest idea how to use it.

wtf are you talking about...

this isn't asianbrides.com message board....

go to the bar or something...

DAVID KOTOK: LIBOR-Gate Will Take Down Many More Bankers, And The Claims Will Spiral Into The Trillions

Read more: David Kotok: What A Crazy Week - Business Insider

aleister perdurabo wrote:

'Stressed' Bank of England official stabbed self to death - Telegraph

The body of Christopher Dymond, 52, was discovered in a secluded car park in Herongate, Essex, after his family had reported him missing.

I read that yesterday and went - stabbed HIMSELF ? I read that and was reminded of a list of people close to skullduggery who errr die by weird methods of suicide :

  1. most recent - Gareth Edwards ( MIx seconded math guy ) - locks himself in a North Pole bag from the INSIDE and suffocates
  2. David Kelly biological warfare expert - accuses Blair's govt of sexing up the Iraq threat - commits suicide - by knife across his ulnar artery, with minimal loss of blood, in the cold ?
  3. Alan Turing and suicide by cyanide ?
  4. 5 subcontinent origin programmers in the '80s working on defence projects - weird methods - a famous one - ties a rope round his neck - other end to a tree has a jerry can of petrol in the car -and drives AWAY from the tree..

so ok - stabbed HIMSELF -

75 and sunny in San Jose, Costa Rica. Predicted high... 78 and cloudy. Rain... quite possible, unpredictable, get your business done early or take an umbrella along.

Greek socialist leader wants more time for deficit cuts - Yahoo! News

Athens, due to run out of cash in weeks without support from the troika of the EU, International Monetary Fund and ECB, has fallen behind agreed targets partly due to a two-month political limbo of repeat elections.
The troika's inspectors are on a fact-finding mission in Athens, reviewing Greece's faltering progress on fiscal adjustment and reforms under a 130 billion euro ($162.6 billion) bailout deal.
"Mr. Venizelos insisted on the need to agree on a new, updated medium-term fiscal strategy program," a statement from his office said on Saturday.
"He raised the issue of revising the bailout in line with the procedures foreseen in it and extending the time period of the fiscal adjustment to three years," the statement said.

vtcodger wrote:

Sell? To Afghan? They can Pay? With what?

Did you look at the BBC article I linked to? It was about Afghanistan's classification as "major ally" or whatever it's called so has "preferential access" to US arms exports AND a "donors" conference in Japan to discuss aid to Afghanistan. I assume that's how they'll pay. That's why I linked to the article--a who knows how long subsidy to the "defense" industry in the US that US taxpayer will undoubtedly pay a portion of as "aid."

you really don't know the Chinese...
...
and that is terrifying... if they ever get the upper hand, watch out.
...

Rob Dawg:

There is no fixing or winning Afghanistan. 2500 years of empires have made that same mistake of hubris.

Amen, Right on, Bingo, Hell Yes, .....

AClem,

I'm thinking of heading down to Guanacaste for a surf trip in late August...Any tips on car rental agency....I used Thrifty last time and it was a nightmare at Juan Samar airport

for the record I have a niece who is Taiwanese...
...

Great. Do we get any Opium poppy production dividends? or is that all CIA profit...

Duke of Con Dao wrote:

head out to the countryside and find a girl
1/3 your age.

definitely happens.. - Sam Sloan - erstwhile chess player - has done that and more..

OTOH this also happens now - BBADs all -

http://img2-1.timeinc.net/people/i/2012/news/120604/mark-zuckerberg-300.jpg

Zuckerberg and Chan.

aleister perdurabo wrote:

A post-mortem revealed Mr Dymond died from self-inflicted stab wounds to his chest and cuts to his arms.

Yes, he cut his own limbs off, but in a last-minute gesture of responsible citizenship deposited the remains in a nearby dumpster.

so ok - stabbed HIMSELF -

did you read the "forced suicides" in china politico article i linked a week or so ago?

iirc, in one case a worker, who had been protesting work conditions, was deemed by authorities to have died in a traffic accident ... though eyewitness reported that 4 men threw him in front of a moving truck.

"More than a century ago, when Britain's empire was at its height, the colonial British couldn't control any more than Pakistan can today the lawless, violent tribal areas that comprise the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan.

In 1897, Winston Churchill was a 23-year-old journalist attached for about six weeks to the Malakand Field Force in the Swat Valley as Britain fought rebellious Pashtun, or Pathan, tribesmen in the region -- at the time, the northwest frontier of British India. Churchill sent dispatches to The Daily Telegraph about the brutal campaign, writing vividly and engagingly about the land and the warlike nature of its tribes "where every man is a soldier."

"Every mans hand is against the other, and all against the stranger."

Tribal Areas - Winston Churchill On The Tribal Territories | Return Of The Taliban | FRONTLINE | PBS

skk
you say don't mention family yet that rule doesn't seem to hold where the Duke Point is concerned.
I mention a gf and it's open season on HCN.
I don't mind rules but hypocrisy.
and then you get a little peanuts outta da shit sucker like poic who mentions now and again his Chinese wife
I ask, not fair game?

Actually, I read the CNN article -- which is better than I've come to expect from CNN U.S. designates Afghanistan a major ally, creates defense ties - CNN.com

"We take seriously any allegations of corruption that involve U.S. funds, and we are working with the United Nations to support the steps they have said they would take to address the concerns raised by donors about allegations of mismanagement of the Law and Order Trust Fund."

Right then ... the corruption thing is covered.

Still though, I have trouble with the idea than I'm supposed to take this stuff seriously.

too bad ole afghanistan sits between China and the middle east.....think of it now as similar to Gaza

I only have 360 comments to go and then it's Adios. Duke Point

well thank the lord I'll be at the Fillmore Jazz Festival starting when you get close to 60....

"did you read the "forced suicides" in china politico article i linked a week or so ago?"

France Telecom faces staff suicides probe - FT.com

France Telecom has been placed under formal investigation for alleged workplace bullying linked to a spate of suicides at the company, along with two top former executives. The action against the company follows a judicial investigation into a restructuring programme that unions claimed triggered 35 employee suicides in 2008 and 2009.

Mr Lombard insisted that the restructuring programme he oversaw – which included 20,000 job cuts and thousands of job transfers but no compulsory redundancies – had included measures for finding new career options and training for every concerned employee.

At the time, the company argued that the rate of suicides was not out of line with the national rate...Among the suicide cases was a man who set himself alight outside his office and others who left notes citing pressures at work."

Suicide in France: Bonjour tristesse | The Economist

Why are the French so prone to suicide?

Oct 8th 2009

"IT IS the country that invented the 35-hour working week, prides itself on its joie de vivre and whose president extols the merits of measuring happiness, not just national income. That makes the string of 24 suicides at France Telecom all the more chilling (see article). Yet what is perhaps most striking is that the suicide rate at the company is about average for France."

The French suicide rate is over twice that in Britain and 40% higher than in Germany and America."

Duke reminds me of my favorite psychiatrist joke - a man dressed only in saran wrap walks into a psychiatrist's office and says, doc, what's wrong with me? Psychiatrist: Well, I can clearly see you're (your) nuts.

Following Barclays' Scandal, Stiglitz says 'Send Bankers to Jail' | Common Dreams
Published on Monday, July 2, 2012
Without threat of prosecution, says Nobel economist, expect little to change
Nobel Prize winner and former World Bank economist Joseph Stiglitz has called recent revelations that Barclays and other large banks colluded to defraud their costumers by artificially leveraging international interest rates a "textbook illustration" of how banks use privileged information and lax oversight to reap rewards for themselves while savaging the wider societies in which they operate.
In an interview with The Independent on Monday, Stiglitz argued (with Barclay's as just the most recent example) that bankers -- without threat of prosecution or jail time -- would continue to use their elevated status to exploit weak regulations, consolidate power, and avoid accountability.
The banks, said Stiglitz in the interview, "create the non-transparent market" by dominating the legislative process that is suppose to control it. "For every meeting that the government has with [bankers], it [should] have to have a meeting with the labor groups and the representatives of civil society," he said. "The problem today is that there’s not equality of access."

San Fran
lovely town but a cultural backwater...

Hello, creditcriminals...

This has been up here in Greece for a few hours: creditcriminalslovetarp | Hoocoodanode?

'Rainer Bruederle, the floor leader of the Free Democratic Party that is a coalition partner in Berlin, said it would “make sense” to give Greece more time to implement reforms required as part of the European Union bailout package.'

It is due to be published in the German press tomorrow.

Duke of Con Dao wrote:

I only have 360 comments to go and then it's Adios. Duke Point

Funny. I was thinking the same thing. But I only have about 16 comments to go.

Duke of Con Dao wrote:

San Fran
lovely town but a cultural backwater...

Been to the Amoeba music store?

shrink joke...
not so bad...
years ago I was hooked up with someone
her family had made their millions in plastic wrap
there was a porn movie where some guy wrapped his
girl up with plastic wrap and had sex with her...
off in the corner of the frame thru most of it
was their family's brand of wrap...
her dad tried to sue but go nowhere...

Amoeba wasn't around when I lived there...
...
I'm not saying you won't have your one off and what not
in SF but not enough for critical mass...
provincial and still a backwater

I once (only) used Europcar (or something like that) and it was fine. My main advice is to have a travel agent book it for you. If you are going to Guanacaste, check out flights to Liberia. You'll be a lot closer and avoid the San Jose mess, though the airport is on the proper side of SJ to go to Guanacaste. Which beaches? Email me if you want more info.

Libor Interest Rate Scandal: Crime of the Century | Common Dreams
July 6, 2012
Modern international bankers form a class of thieves the likes of which the world has never before seen. Or, indeed, imagined. The scandal over Libor—short for London interbank offered rate—has resulted in a huge fine for Barclays Bank and threatens to ensnare some of the world’s top financiers. It reveals that behind the world’s financial edifice lies a reeking cesspool of unprecedented corruption. The modern-day robber barons pillage with a destructive abandon totally unfettered by law or conscience and on a scale that is almost impossible to comprehend.
How to explain a $450 million settlement for one bank whose defense, in a plea bargain worked out with regulators in London and Washington, is that every institution in their elite financial circle was doing it? Not just Barclays but JPMorgan Chase, Citigroup and others are now being investigated on suspicion of manipulating the Libor rate, so critical to a $700 trillion derivatives market.

As The New York Times editorialized: “The evidence, cited by the Justice Department—which Barclays agreed is ‘true and accurate’—is damning. ‘Always happy to help,’ one employee wrote in an email after being asked to submit false information. ‘If you know how to keep a secret, I’ll bring you in on it,’ wrote a Barclays trader to a trader at another bank, referring to their strategies for mutual gain. If that’s not conspiracy and price-fixing, what is?”

Duke of Con Dao wrote:

I only have 360 comments to go and then it's Adios.

Your lifeclock turns red and it's off to the carousel?

Brilliant - worthy of Private Eye -

Marriage wasn’t a panacea for Huffington, as the relationship ended in divorce, with her husband later publicly revealing that he was bisexual. “Arianna is probably the only woman in America who insists that her husband wasn’t gay before he met her,” says a friend

Arianna Huffington on Building Her Huffington Post-AOL Empire -- New York Magazine

friends say that of her ? Bitchy man bitchy..

Duke, my second favorite is this:

A receptionist calls in to the psychiatrist's office and says, Doc, there's a man out here who thinks he's invisible. The psychiatrist says: "Tell him I can't see him right now."

Why are psychiatrist's so much funnier than psychologists?

KidPsych wrote:

Why are psychiatrist's so much funnier than psychologists?

Uh, because they can prescribe drugs?

there are quite a few backwater bays...

culture-people travel here to see, feel and breathe it...so I think your off a couple hundred miles, I'll give you some slack as your from New York..I think you meant Fresno...

Uh, because they can prescribe drugs?

Hey, we can too! (Well, in New Mexico, Louisiana and Native American Territories)

Rickkk wrote:

The French suicide rate is over twice that in Britain and 40% higher than in Germany and America."

The rate seems to depend on the age group, more young people in the US commit suicide then in France, and way more murders in the US. NationMaster - Crime stats: France vs United States

Why are psychiatrist's so much funnier than psychologists?

Higher tuition.

KidPsych wrote:

Hey, we can too! (Well, in New Mexico, Louisiana and Native American Territories)

Is that adderall?

Outsider wrote:

Higher tuition.

Big smile Good, but we need JD for a better punchline. Laughing out loud

edit: Why are psychiatrist's so much funnier than psychologists?

ans: I don't know. Why don't you lie down on this couch and we'll explore your feelings of inferiority.

it does make sense.....it's akin to Egyptian gods saying hey you laborers you have 3 years to build all three pyramids or you die.. good luck with that....run me down in your chariot as I try to escape...no way it can be done in 3 yrs...why try

Good, but we need JD for a better punchline.

I taught him everything he knows. Wink

‘Priceless’ dinosaur skeleton destroyed by human hands say scientists

The Hadrosaur skeleton was discovered by paleontologists on June 15 but was reburied to protect the fossils until they could be safely removed.

When Dr. Phil Bell arrived to move the fossil, he found the remains in ruins.

“They’d gone through and smashed indiscriminately,” Bell, a project paleontologist with the Pipestone Creek Dinosaur Initiative, said in a news release. “It’s an irreplaceable loss.”

Facepalm

Outsider wrote:

I taught him everything he knows.

Duke, is that you?

Sadly there is nothing coming down the pike that will inspire the economy to improve & 2013 will be even worse than now. BLS changes their criteria (again) so as to keep the unemployment rate below 10% when it is probably over 20%. It's up to the people to take a stand and overcome the continual mistakes by the government so that our children will have as good as a life as each of us once had. $[booksbyoliver.com]

Bubblisimo Gerkinov wrote:

‘Priceless’ dinosaur skeleton destroyed by human hands say scientists

Looking for Christ's riding crop?

tg wrote:

Interview with Gerald Celente of the Trends Journal | Greg Hunter’s USAWatchdog
banker run world Tinfoil Hat

Celente lost money in the MF Global bankruptcy and says the lesson learned is “You don’t own your money unless you have it in your possession.”

Another error in judgment. Even if you have it in your possession, it can be devalued.

KidPsych wrote:

A receptionist calls in to the psychiatrist's office and says, Doc, there's a man out here who thinks he's invisible. The psychiatrist says: "Tell him I can't see him right now."

My wife almost choked on her iced tea.

Sadly there is nothing coming down the pike that will inspire the economy to improve & 2013 will be even worse than now.

well, yeah ... but i'm sticking around to see how the magician makes the bottom stick for march 2012 home prices ...

sdtfs wrote:

Why don't you lie down on this couch and we'll explore your feelings of inferiority.

Psychiatrist: So how have you been feeling?
Patient: Ok.
Psychiatrist: Well let's double the dose and see how you feel.

Hey, we can too! (Well, in New Mexico, Louisiana and Native American Territories)
Is that adder all?

Nope, same privileges as shrinks. My supervisor is currently completing his master's in pscyhopharm with the hope of prescribing in Native American territories. Naturally a lot of push-back from psychiatrists in legislature to prevent further encroachment on their primary source of income. Research has shown that psychologists prescribe less often and in lower doses than psychiatrists, so I suspect that drug companies will do whatever they can to prevent more states from allowing these privileges. Saw girl yesterday who has been prescribed 17 different meds. We need some change here. That's not right.

Psychiatrists --> psychologists

Physicians --> Physician assistants/nurse practitioners

RNs --> LPNs

I'm seeing a trend here.

KidPsych wrote:

Research has shown that psychologists prescribe less

I didn't know they can prescribe.

Even if you have it in your possession, it can be devalued.

i still rather have an ounce of benjamins over an ounce of gold ...

this comment from article says it best

Are these paleontologists stupid? What kind of rosy, pie-in-the sky world are they living in? Vandals, delinquents, and other miscreants will break into a car to steal 50 cents. They will smash bus shelters for no reason. They will spray-paint buildings, steal manhole covers, break marble statues, pull down flags, knock over tombstones. What in the world let these scientists believe that simply buring fossils would protect them? One word, dinosaur researchers: SECURITY. Invest in a guard, or continue to lose fossils to these mental midgets.

So true, .here are some more stupid humans here....

Bay Area Beaches Left Trashed After 4th Of July Celebrations « CBS San Francisco

makes me sick...fucking litter bugs...I'm going to start a website that allows you to post litter bugs and make funny captions below each lazy idiots....

Psychiatrists --> psychologists
Physicians --> Physician assistants/nurse practitioners
RNs --> LPNs
I'm seeing a trend here.

Maybe that's fair, outsider, but most of us psychologists have 6-7 years of school, 3000+ hours internships, and usually a 200 hour post-doc before we're out doing work. And if you wanted to prescribe, that's another two years of a master's program. Remember, psychiatrists spend many years learning stuff they don't use in practice. A surgery rotation is interesting, but hardly beneficial if your goal is to prescribe meds.

zephyrum wrote:

A post-mortem revealed Mr Dymond died from self-inflicted stab wounds to his chest and cuts to his arms.

Yes, he cut his own limbs off, but in a last-minute gesture of responsible citizenship deposited the remains in a nearby dumpster.

I thought hanging yourself at Blackfriars bridge was traditional?

Pavel, in case you didn't see above, psychologists can in New Mexico, Louisiana, and the Native American Territories. And in the military.

KidPsych,
Nope, same privileges as shrinks.

Illegal in New York. Shrinks complete their medical training before specializing. Do psychologists? I think not.

To have a great capital is not so necessary as to know how to manage a small sum, and never to be wtihout a little. It is not large funds that are wanted, but a constant supply, like a small stream that never dies.

-William Cooper, A Guide in the Wilderness, 1810

Tom Stone wrote:

Yes, he cut his own limbs off, but in a last-minute gesture of responsible citizenship deposited the remains in a nearby dumpster.

One bright morning in the middle of the night
Two dead boys got up to fight
One was blind and the other couldn't see
They chose a dummy as a referee
Back to back they faced each other
They drew two swords and shot each other
A deaf policeman heard the noise
And came and killed the two dead boys

-- Traditional

KidPsych wrote:

Pavel, in case you didn't see above, psychologists can in New Mexico, Louisiana, and the Native American Territories. And in the military.

Thanks.

Just curious, kidpsych - Are psychiatrist fees higher than psychologist? Because I think that is the basis for the trend in the other medical fields I'm seeing.

Really, since everyone wants in on scrip writing to boost their income stream, why not make it unnecessary. Let folks have any pharma they want...they see all the ads on the TV...the local pharmacist at the drug store can run a database to see which are contra-indicated.
Should lower the cost of health care. Another level of regulations we can happily kill.

Outsider wrote:

I'm seeing a trend here.

Dental issues too .

All of these things make sense - in a third world setting when the doc/pop ratio is so low - a lesser degreed/trained individual is wayyyyy better than none - especially when trained not to get a "God complex" and to stick to their knitting.

In the USA, for those 65+. with dental treatment hardly covered by Medicare, these individuals are a worthwhile option to visit.

Let folks have any pharma they want...

I hope you're snarking.

Not only would there be mis-treatment all around, but resistance levels, for things like antibiotics, would go thru the roof.

A lot of meds are really controlled poisons anyway, glancing at the long list of side effect disclaimers.

Are psychiatrist fees higher than psychologist? Because I think that is the basis for the trend in the other medical fields I'm seeing.

Roughly double. And if you need to see a child psychiatrist, bring cash.

fried wrote:

Should lower the cost of health care. Another level of regulations we can happily kill.

why do you hate the trial lawyers ?

Roughly double. And if you need to see a child psychiatrist, bring cash.

Ah. There ya go.

FWIW, I'd rather go with a psychologist with a humanistic/behavioral bent than a psychiatrist with a medical model bent. Assuming that's a fairly accurate generalization.

the Mughals held Afghanistan for at least three generations. Babur's tomb is in Kabul

Tom Stone wrote:

I thought hanging yourself at Blackfriars bridge was traditional?

yes - car park doesn't have the same sense of occasion to it does it - whereas an Italianate styled bridge - for an Italian banker at that. the vatican Mafia CIA does know what its doing - perhaps. I of course have no real idea whodunit.

That would kill many practices, especially the ones that are glorified drug pushers. They get cash on the side to push Paxil or whatever, and if you refuse they pull the prescriptions you actually need.

Really, since everyone wants in on scrip writing to boost their income stream, why not make it unnecessary. Let folks have any pharma they want...they see all the ads on the TV...the local pharmacist at the drug store can run a database to see which are contra-indicated.
Should lower the cost of health care. Another level of regulations we can happily kill.

I know you're being facetious, Fried, but the point would be to reduce the use of meds. I can't speak for everyone, but in my supervisor's case, it's certainly not the case that he wants to increase his revenue stream. He is too busy now. What he does want is the ability to understand why certain drugs are prescribed and to be able to recommend proper treatment and doses. (And because we're close to Native territories, there are some underserved people there.) As noted earlier, psychologists with privileges prescribe significantly less. Part of the reason is we have other skills to fall back on. If you take your kid to a psychiatrist and say he's inattentive I can guarantee you'll be heading off to the pharmacist with a scrip for a stimulant of some sort (or Strattera). I know from personal experience that I am seeing a lot of kids who are over-prescribed or mis-prescribed. I have a kid now with tics and what appears to be mania who is on Adderall. Why? Well, he's inattentive. Of course he's inattentive. He's manic. Adderall ain't gonna help that.

At the end of the day, I'm not certain allowing psychologists privileges would change things, but early evidence suggests it might be the case.

KidPsych wrote:

17 different meds

Normal for the underprivledged children in third world Mississippi. Pill 'Um up when they are young and forever keep them dumb and on the tolls of big pharma thru Medicaid. I had one child whose meds had been changed 21 times in six month period.

FWIW, I'd rather go with a psychologist with a humanistic/behavioral bent than a psychiatrist with a medical model bent. Assuming that's a fairly accurate generalization.

Outsider, I don't want to misrepresent what psychiatrists do. Good ones are worth every penny. I just worry that with little ones especially we're too quick to prescribe. I certainly see a lot of young boys with inattention and hyperactivity where you can't help but ask, well, maybe we should change the environment their in - or our expectations of them. Maybe preschools should be different. In Finland, you're not generally in school till their 7, and they have the highest high school achievement scores in the world. Maybe it's not important for a child to sit still when they're six.

I had one child whose meds had been changed 21 times in six month period.

Wow. That's staggering. I don't understand how you could disentangle the effects. That's very sad. The girl I saw had developed a pronounced slur. It was very sad. Sweet kid.

KidPsych wrote:

In Finland, you're not generally in school till their 7, and they have the highest high school achievement scores in the world.

Finland also has, IIRC, one of the highest alcoholism rates in the world. I'm not positing a correlation.

ANTIPATHY wrote:

the Mughals held Afghanistan for at least three generations. Babur's tomb is in Kabul

errr.. in the case of babar yeah the ELEPHANT Smile isn't the other way way round - like he was in Turkestan ( no not Turkey ) furst, then went on to grab Kaboulistan and THEN beat up the Lodis at Panipat and took Northern India starting the Mughal period of history..

in other words from outside INTO Northern India, not from Northern India INTO Afghanistan ?

If Miss Fernandez taught me correctly at school. Googling. wiki sorta accords with that - mind you it says the primary source is HIMSELF and his memoirs.

SKK maybe you google but I was in Aghganistan twice during the reign of King zahir have also visited the tombs of Humayan and Akbar

Your summary also is in error

RayOnTheFarm wrote:

Should lower the cost of health care. Another level of regulations we can happily kill.

why do you hate the trial lawyers ?

Many malpractice & mislabeling/off label prescription or just stupidity/negligence in prescribing medication cases are settled out of court. Often w/gag requirements.

What's your reason(s) for trusting BigPharma? Especially w/out any regulation of the drugs they want to bring to market?

KidPsych: I just worry that with little ones especially we're too quick to prescribe.

First of all, I was a psychology minor. I have a bias.

2nd, my eldest had selective mutism when she was little. The typical prescribed was prozac. Was no way I was going to put a 4 yr. old with a developing brain on prozac.

black dog wrote:

and spanish 10yr yield back around 7%

intrade on seeing rajoy hanging from a lamp post is now 26% chance.

fried wrote:

I don't think Clinton understands the meaning of the word.

What one administration proclaims another administration can ignore. Some times the same administration.

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