JP wrote:

Floriduh FTW!

We try harder down here

The poorest state in the Union doesn't have the highest delinquency rate ?
Do we have better bankers ?

I mean seriously tho: On what planet does delinquency past 365 make sense? It doesn't make sense for anybody -- just let those folks move on with their lives.

G20: Spain crisis puts pressure on Germany | Economy | News | Financial Post

Jun 18, 2012 2:43 PM ET

"Europe’s financial crisis deepened and enveloped Spain, raising pressure on German Chancellor Angela Merkel at a meeting of world leaders to shift her stance on measures to shield the global economy.

President Barack Obama, who has blamed the crisis for a slowdown in U.S. employment growth, is due to hold talks with Merkel in the Mexican resort of Los Cabos at 1:30 p.m. Monday local time, a White House official said. Merkel and her fellow euro-area leaders will then hold more talks with Obama this evening at the president’s request.

“It’s not a complete beating up session, but Germany is the recipient of fairly caustic criticism from other members of the G20,” Rob Carnell, chief international economist at ING Bank NV in London, said by telephone. “The pressure will be on Germany to give more ground and behind closed doors Merkel may well be more accommodative. There is ground for the eurozone to move, but just what it does depends on how much Germany digs its heels in....

The German chancellor “is positioning herself for making the minimum concessions that she can get away with,...”

Great hotel, except the hookers - Review of ME Cabo, Cabo San Lucas, Mexico - TripAdvisor

KarmaPolice wrote:

Bulldoze and return to swampland crop lands.

Word floating around locally is that the watermelon growers are having an exceptional year. Prices have held up much longer than is normal (and they continue harvesting and shipping).

How far underwater is she again?

RayOnTheFarm wrote:

Word floating around locally is that the watermelon growers are having an exceptional year.

must be. watermelons at Fairway here in the Hook go for 8.98!

That guy from Vegas has the equivalent of 4 of those watermelon in his pants.......

lawyerliz wrote:

I "picked" it--not quite the right word--any words of wisdom about ripeness?

Most melons are ripe if they have a yellow patch somewhere on them. It may not matter as much with a mellon that big: there should be plenty of red even if it doesn't go right out to the skin.

If it isn't super sweet, you could do something savory with it... sort of chutneyish maybe?

lawyerliz wrote:

So I'm cooling it on the countertop.

And finally we have an answer to "Why is there a watermelon here?"

Duke of Con Dao wrote:

watermelons at Fairway here in the Hook go for 8.98!

weigh one of those. what I hear is that the price at the loading dock down here is between 20-25 cents/pound. that gives you some idea what the various middlemen are raking in.

LL , why don't you spike the watermelon with your favorite beverage.

he's just pissed he wasn't there solo or with his wolf pack
instead he was stuck with his boring gf... (at Cabo)

So my 10 or 15 buck watermelon will never be reported in GDP.

I'm scared to look for another one.

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Cut the watermelon into bite size bits and wrap them with some very finely sliced prosciutto.

lawyerliz wrote:

I went out to chop a little sawgrass in my neglected garden

Is your garden in a swamp? I've never seen sawgrass not growing in an area which is submerged at least part of the year....

RayOnTheFarm wrote:

Word floating around locally is that the watermelon growers are having an exceptional year.

Have you read the book Tomatoland?

Mrs. Antipodes told me this morning that a longtime friend of hers who still lives in Italy says things are not going well and he worries about a future for his family in Italy. She says they are looking into emigrating.

sportsfan wrote:

Taliban to ban polio vaccinations for children until US stops drone strikes

Wow. That makes absolutely no sense to me. Could they mind giving themselves HIV and Ebola while they are at it? It should help future issues with those population centers.

Italy Govt Bonds 10 Year Gross Yield Analysis - GBTPGR10 - Bloomberg 

12:02:00 ET on 06/18/2012.

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"Could they mind giving themselves HIV and Ebola while they are at it?"

In Africa it's HIV & drug resistant TB.

Rickkk wrote:

In Africa it's HIV & drug resistant TB.

Maybe what the white man did to the natives of North & South America we can do to the heavily populated centers of troublesome Asian countries. We can see how everyone's "dog" will save the believers...
.
Absolutely no way that could backfire on us, right?

Joseph Stiglitz: The Rich Have Become Experts At Advancing Their Cause

"Maybe what the white man did to the natives of North & South America we can do to the heavily populated centers of troublesome Asian countries. "

Careful what you wish for.

Guns, Germs, and Steel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Rickkk wrote:

Careful what you wish for.

It worked out for my people. What is the problem?

"Seriously delinquent" after 90 days? Or even 365 days?. Most of my short sale clients are in the 3-4 YEAR delinquent range. I'm on my way to meet one that will be almost 5 years delinquent by the time we conclude the 6 month short sale period.

I have another client that is 19 months delinquent and has not even received his NOD yet. We still have a ways to go folks...

Rickkk wrote:

Careful what you wish for.

India, the epicenter of hypertension and diabetes.

Then Spain is out according to the analysts.

Georgia Using National Mortgage Deal Funds To Lure Corporations

"Another state is using the money set aside to help struggling homeowners to do something else besides help struggling homeowners."

"Seriously delinquent" after 90 days? Or even 365 days?. Most of my short sale clients are in the 3-4 YEAR delinquent range. I'm on my way to meet one that will be almost 5 years delinquent by the time we conclude the 6 month short sale period.

I have another client that is 19 months delinquent and has not even received his NOD yet. We still have a ways to go folks...

Man you can stack some serious cash during those periods...This is of course if one is still gainfully employed.

I tell them to stuff the mattress, but almost none do.

JP wrote:

Householders age 35 to 44 experienced a 59% decline in median net worth

I wouldn't jump to any quantitative conclusions.

Those who rented probably dropped a few %.
Those who owned probably dropped a huge %, for many into negative territory.
Then again, those who owned and were FC'd or sold short probably recovered much of their loss as forgiven debt.

lawyerliz wrote:

I "picked" it--not quite the right word--any words of wisdom about ripeness?

I believe you're supposed to ask that question before you "pick" it.

Man you can stack some serious cash during those periods...This is of course if one is still gainfully employed. >

Most people never save a dime.

Yep.

TakeFive wrote:

I have another client that is 19 months delinquent and has not even received his NOD yet.

Those are the ones that screw up my stats.

Most people never save a dime.

Truly amazes me...it really does.....And to think many of us here in the know continue to pay as we go.

We are the true suckers.

My appraisal buddy is doing pretty well too.

He was foreclosed out after a bit less than 5 years--he didn't hire me, just hid from the process server for a while, as a defense--property sold to a 3rd party for 73--he would have agreed to a lot more than that years ago. He says he is very happy to be renting, and has started (gasp) to save money.

I will do a plug when it cools off some more.

So do s continue to ripen or not?

So do Why is there a watermelon there? Why is there a watermelon there? s continue to ripen or not?

Only when filled with Vodka...Booyaa!

"Try eating more asparagus - it will turn the same color as money and the smell... "

So the 1% eats organic asparagus then before going to the loo?

Liz, they don't. So you have what you've got . . .

lawyerliz wrote:

So do Why is there a watermelon there? Why is there a watermelon there? s continue to ripen or not?

DDG says no.

Watermelons: It is extremely difficult to tell if a watermelon is ripe by just looking; it must be examined. Watermelons will not continue to ripen after harvest. Hold the harvested fruits at 50 degrees to 60 degrees F. Here are indications you can look for:

1. Thump it. If the watermelon sounds hollow (if you hear a dull thump/thud), the melon is usually ripe. This is difficult for less-gifted ears. The unripe melon will have a tighter, metallic ringing or hollow sound. This technique is not perfect however, because the dull sound you hear doesn't indicate if the melon is overripe.
2. Use the criteria of approximate size for variety,
3. Ceasing of growth.
4. Look at the color on the top. The watermelon is ripe when there is little contrast between the stripes. Another indication is when the surface color of the fruit turns dull.
5. Look for the spot where the melon rested on the ground; a yellow-white, yellow or a cream-yellow color spot suggests ripeness and a white or pale green spot indicates immaturity. A green watermelon will have a white bottom; a ripe melon will have a cream- or yellow-colored bottom. Those fruit that show a change of color from green or olive-grey to yellowish brown should be considered ready to harvest. Also look for a breakup of green bands at the blossom end of the fruit. For best quality, walk the patch daily.
6. The rind at the soil spot should toughen and resist denting with a fingernail when the melon is ripe. Scratch the surface of the rind with your thumbnail. If the outer layer slips back with little resistance, showing a green-white color under the rind, the watermelon is ripe. Feel for development of ribbed indentations that can be felt with finger tips. It should be firm but not a rock. If soft or soft spots it�s too far gone. Sponginess is bad.
7. Press on it. If the watermelon sounds like it gives a little, it's ripe. (This method can also ruin the quality of the fruit.)
8. Check the tendril. If the tendril is green, you should wait to pick the melon. Harvest when the curled tendril near the stem, the "pigtail" or tendril closest to the melon on the vine begins to shrivel and dry up. If it dries while the leaves and rest of the vine looks good, the melon should be ripe.
9. Harvest when a small crack appears in the stem just above the melon indicating the melon is ripe. If it's half-dead, it could mean that the watermelon is nearly ripe or ripe. If the tendril is fully dead, it could mean that anthracnose or some other fungus killed the melon, or that it's ripe or overripe. The drying of the stem tendril nearest the attachment point and green color tone are also indicators of ripeness. Sign vary with cultivars.
10. Count the number of days from anthesis (flowering) or the number of days from planting. This works pretty well if you know the variety of watermelon and how many days it's supposed to take for that variety to ripen under normal temperature and fertilizer regimes.
11. The slipping of the stem from the melon with slight finger pressure is an excellent indicator of melon ripeness in the field.

Hold a melon up to your ear, if you can feel it squeeze and hear a slight mush instead of a crack it is ripe.

7 Check the size. It's not necessarily true that when a watermelon is big enough, it's ready; but under good conditions, it should be normal size. If it's not, you're probably too anxious.

8 Crack a few. You've got a whole field of watermelons, and you can practice a little, right?

9 Is the vine dead or dying? Well, the watermelon is not going to get any riper, so you might as well pick it

1. Rely on your nose, and look for a melon with the strongest fragrance, for this will most likely be the best tasting. Breath deeply and follow your nose to the sweet ripe melon. Sniff the aromatic one out. Next, look for a melon that is heavy for its size, because if you have two melons of equal size, the heavier one is almost assuredly the riper and better tasting melon. Smell is something you learn with experience.
2. Still confulsed? Guess. All indicators will not always work. Take your best shot and go with it.��

Harvesting Melons: How do you know when a melon is ripe? -

I think the kids steering the drones regard it as a video game.

I think some of them will feel sick later when they realize what they did.

I hope the congress does nothing and the tax cuts expire, and the spending expires too.

lawyerliz wrote:

So do s continue to ripen or not?

I thought they just sagged more and more....

We have 2 noez and one yes. I can't stand it; I'm gonna plug it.

Name of book?

Eric wrote:

Not that I recommend reading it, since the author is a bigoted loudmouthed homophobe.

Who?

what did i miss today: Bill Gross is starting to make sense and call for higher nominal growth in the EU. do they have a new economist over there?? am i dead?

"That's still too high a rate relative to nominal growth. What the EU wants is nominal GDP growth. They want to reflate. They want some inflation as well. 4%-types of financing is still above that 1%-2% nominal GDP growth that they are experiencing. "

The Wisdom of Bill Gross

lawyerliz wrote:

So do s continue to ripen or not?

I don't think so. My organic farmer friend never picks them until they have the yellow spot. I think once they are separated from the stem, they pretty much stop. One that was warm, like yours, might go a little way on momentum, but I wouldn't count on it..

Eric wrote:

Not that I recommend reading it, since the author is a bigoted loudmouthed homophobe.

SITE ABUSE!!!1!!!!!!

He is? I liked all the Ender books.

lawyerliz wrote:

I think some of them will feel sick later when they realize what they did.

There are already issues of PTSD for some of those guys.

lawyerliz wrote:

l couldn't wait, no delayed gratification for me.

So early SSA for you then?

I thought Heinlein was something of a perv, but not bigoted, more of a swinger, actually.

I remember in Time Enough for Love, a couple of techs swathed in white jumpsuits to the extend of not knowing what sex the other was. (in a bio lab). Agreed to have some sexy fun.

The tall one turned out to be a girl, the short one a boy, but apparently it didn't matter to heinlein and his fictional characters.

greenchutes wrote:

The movie is a good half year into actual production

My 80's era copy of the book has a sticker saying "Soon to be a major motion picture." As does my copy of Battlefield Earth from the same era...

the CoS has been a little more proactive about invading hollywood than at least one other american-born cult

If we female types protested about reading stuff that anti-female types wrote, we wouldn't be reading Shakespeare or Aristotle or a whole bunch of other famous authors. I understand the Taming of the Shrew is getting hard to stage what with all the boos at the Taming process.

Outsider is a glass 2/3 full type of guy.

Perhaps he was on the down-low?

Yo

shill neat sneakers

ll - Had a great time in Fl. (ecotour of the Glades and a bucket item around Dry Tortugas, just wow!!)

s legs with butter and chives.

gators, a panther, neat birds and a whole new appreciation of how important the ecosystem is!

lawyerliz wrote:

spider queens

Flaming spiders?

shill Ill have another look at SVU @ $0.09

Nooooooo, an alien entity with a queen or so per planet to reproduce, who didn't understand that we didn't do it that way.

Vatican accuses media of 'imitating Dan Brown' - World news - Europe - msnbc.com

In a rare interview with the Italian Catholic magazine Famiglia Cristiana, Bertone, the Vatican's secretary of state, accused the media of "intentionally ignoring" the good things the Church does while dwelling on scandals.

"Many journalists are playing the game of trying to imitate Dan Brown," said Bertone, referring to the best-selling author of novels such as "The Da Vinci Code" and "Angels and Demons".

"They (journalists) continue to invent fairytales and repeat legends," he said.

BR that should be good for a few extra weekend bike rides

---CONJURE BAG'S GLOBAL DEPRESSION COUNTDOWN CLOCK---

The clock was last updated on June 14, 2012 at 7:46 PM and the clock advanced 10 seconds to 11:57:35.1.

The time is now:

11:57:45.1

The clock has advanced 10 seconds.

Conjure says, "Mr. Barroso's remark reveals how hopelessly ignorant the EU leadership is of economics and the true reasons for the euro's failure."

G20 summit: Barroso blames eurozone crisis on US banks | World news | The Guardian 

Conjure went on to say, "Embrace the mediocrity. Celebrate the awesomeness."

Sounds wonderful.

Wistful.

Hub can't sail.

mp wrote:

Conjure went on to say, "Embrace the mediocrity. Celebrate the awesomeness."

Dude! Let's watch Scrooge McDuck cartoons on my big TV!

(we'll have to take the s outside by the pool)

Eurozone banks had triple the leverage of the big TBTF in the US.

Also, after passage of SarBox it was the US bank executives moaning that they'd lose business to the looser regs in London and the Continent.

Barroso = bald faced liar.

But you 2 don't get hideously sick do you?

mp wrote:

Conjure says, "Mr. Barroso's remark reveals how hopelessly ignorant the EU leadership is of economics and the true reasons for the euro's failure."

Barroso knows perfectly well that what he's saying is b.s. This is political pandering to his audience at home. He's hoping 'blaming the Americans' is something the Yerps will buy into. It's a pretty lame narrative, but obviously he doesn't have anything better to offer.

Conjure is well & happy?

lawyerliz wrote:

I don't see that we forced Spain to sell houses to brits that they couldn't afford.

But US Banks were booking all that "riskless" financial innovation and providing fantastic returns that the Spanish banks could not match without doing the same. Too bad they did not have a GS alum in charge of the EU treasury to patch things up when things went south.

Or is that what Corzine and Dimon are for?

Yerp blames the U.S. and China.
The U.S. blames China and Yerp.
China blames Yerp and the U.S.

Is Corzine in jail yet?

poic wrote:

Did miss any blaming?

Just don't get left holding the burning bag when the music stops.

Conjure is well & happy?

YouTube - Bach, Busoni - Chaconne in D minor BWV 1004 - Helene Grimaud (piano)

Eric wrote:

Just don't get left holding the burning bag when the music stops.

I was assured by the highest levels of government that it contains high-quality paper.

poic wrote:

Did miss any blaming?

Must be lots of little blamers, screaming in the wings. But basically, this is a 3-legged stool, IMO.

ResistanceIsFeudal wrote:

it contains high-quality paper.

Slobbering Senators Woo Dimon While They Gut Dodd-Frank - Bloomberg 

"I was assured by the highest levels of government that it contains high-quality paper. "

It's strong paper but there's still a change your finger pokes through. I recommend latex gloves when handling the bag.

I suppose that Rick Scott really doesn't have anything better to do:

Why the Feds Are Suing Florida for Allegedly Purging Voters - ProPublica

lawyerliz wrote:

Is Corzine in jail yet?

I don't think that is the way it works in a Dem administration. Failure is rewarded.

Being egregiously incompetent seems to be a pre-req for a Dem T-sec.

"The chief executive officer of MF Global was Jon Corzine, a former co-CEO of Goldman Sachs Group Inc. (GS), a former senator and governor of New Jersey, and an oft- rumored candidate to replace Tim Geithner as secretary of the Treasury."

"The chief executive officer of MF Global was Jon Corzine, a former co-CEO of Goldman Sachs Group Inc. (GS), a former senator and governor of New Jersey, and an oft-rumored candidate to replace Tim Geithner as secretary of the Treasury. Could anyone have a more gold-plated resume?"

So what did Corzine do? He ratcheted up the financial risks the formerly sleepy firm was taking, and ran it into the ground by making a huge, leveraged bet on the risky sovereign debt of European countries. When the market discovered the extent of Corzine’s bet, and how leveraged it was and what might happen to MF Global’s capital if he was wrong, investors, creditors, counterparties and customers ran for the exit.

On Oct. 31 the firm collapsed, taking with it billions of dollars in shareholders’ and creditors’ money as well as 3,000 jobs. Oh yes, $1.6 billion more in customers’ funds has disappeared -- a mind-bending violation of the rule that customer money should never be mingled with other corporate funds to make payments in the ordinary course of business."

"Being egregiously incompetent seems to be a pre-req for a Dem T-sec."

It should take me all of 5 seconds to find egregiously incompetent treasury secretaries under both administrations.

Nope...can't see any steriods...none whatsoever....

Roger Clemens acquitted on all charges - Times Union

I don't see any clarification's wanted, Con Dao. It's possible you'd be surprised who I know, or know of.

Rickkk wrote:

as well as 3,000 jobs.

They were leveraged jobs, so it was really 11 actual jobs.

"It's possible you'd be surprised who I know, or know of. "

Probably not. I wouldn't be surprised if the person you know, or know of, is either a relative of or part of Duke's inner-circle.

poic wrote:

egregiously incompetent treasury secretaries under both administrations.

I would agure that (R) T-Secs tend to be more evil, self-serving, corporate than incompetent.

"I would agure that (R) T-Secs tend to be more evil, self-serving, corporate No one 17 and under admitted than incompetent. "

It takes skills to strap on those knee-pads before traveling to China. Bowing while on your knees wearing your custom-suede knee pads is extremely hard to do.

burnside wrote:

I don't see any clarification's wanted, Con Dao.

chicken and egg problem... oh yes, you can call me

Blackhalo wrote:

to be more evil

Hank Paulson is so evil that when he looks at eggs in the grocery store, they instantly become deviled.

lawyerliz wrote:

I understand the Taming of the Shrew is getting hard to stage what with all the boos at the Taming process.

I loved this version

"ShakespeaRe-Told" The Taming of the Shrew (TV episode 2005) - IMDb

student debt

I suppose you could bundle and sell this....and then you own them. Slavery might be gone but is servitude?

They already are, per SarBox. Just no one in authority will prosecute.

rosethorn wrote:

Just no one in authority will prosecute.

Gotta respect bought and paid for politicians who stay bought.

I hear Ivy League PhD's

Bill Maher railed against visual arts majors on his show, but if the other option is a bunch of ex-physicists churning out BS Gaussian copula models, then I'll take the visual arts majors, thank you very much.

PD: Hypocrisy comes naturally to me.

Whiskey wrote:

Bill Maher railed against visual arts majors on his show, but if the other option is a bunch of ex-physicists churning out BS Gaussian copula models, then I'll take the visual arts majors, thank you very much.

Word and picture have become slave to the number. Maybe they always were.

"Evolution, Morpheus"

"Art is making something out of nothing and selling it."
-- Frank Zappa

Art is making something out of... at BrainyQuote

RD wrote
Where's my global warming? And flying cars? I was promised global warming and flying cars!

you get Global Warming and Space Drones, and you'd best like it....

JP wrote:

It's not like there's some limit on the number of dumbasses.

The only truly limitless resource!

"It's not like there's some limit on the number of dumbasses. "

Spoken like someone who works in IT

Rickkk wrote:

customer money should never be mingled with other corporate funds to make payments in the ordinary course of

An eight dollar an hour bank teller would have gotten 10 years for taking money from a customers deposit. What a gig for Corzine.

Why does ND have a high deliquency rate? Aren't they all rolling in oil money?

Clemens = not guilty is like Bankia = solvent.

energyecon wrote:

The only truly limitless resource!

we could make it a digital currency

energyecon wrote:

JP wrote:

It's not like there's some limit on the number of dumbasses.

The only truly limitless resource!

"The problem with trying to make something idiot-proof is nature keeps producing better idiots"?

Odysseus wrote:

Why does ND have a high deliquency rate? Aren't they all rolling in oil money?

The labels don't line up well. ND is tiny, but I think you are looking at NC.

justaskin wrote:

....some folks back then understood that the answer to poor conditions in the immigrant populations of the time was to try and improve public health science and services...)

Or you can go the other way, and end up with some nice strains of antibiotic resistant TB. Blowback is a

josap wrote:

He said business just died.

Any chance that 115-120 degree weather has an impact?

YouTube - A1 concepts Let's Pizza

Made without being touched by hands: Pizza made in a human-free environment.

mhdoc wrote:

Any chance that 115-120 degree weather has an impact?

Some.
But the temp doesn't effect the REO listings or sales to investors.
The cash investors seem to have vanished as well. They don't want to play in a market that is going up too fast or compete in bidding wars. Quite a few investors now use companies that bid at the foreclosure sale.