BG great comment.

Someday this war's gonna end...

nice link CK...another chance to observe the horses ass, straight from the horses mouth
BG......need something to do?

New home construction back to jun 2007 levels. Remember jun 2007? We thought the world was ending. Now we think it is a sign of improvement.

Yeah, it set me off for the day. Then I come across one of the fools tweeting about how half of Americans don't pay fed tax. My Head Just Exploded I hate to be mean but I am really going to enjoy watching these people get their karma served up to them.

Rob Dawg wrote:

Now we think it is a sign of improvement.

Shift happens.

Comrade Kristina wrote:

Then I come across one of the fools tweeting about how half of Americans don't pay fed tax.

I love the "50% have no skin in the game" crowd.... it's an instant marker that they're not worth arguing with.

Comrade Kristina wrote:

I am really going to enjoy watching these people get their karma served up to them.

Don't hold your breath.

Comrade Kristina wrote:
The Romneys declared a loss of $77,000 on their 2010 tax returns for the share in the care and feeding of Rafalca, which Mrs. Romney owns with Mr. Ebeling’s wife, Amy, and a family friend, Beth Meyers.

Yep....Romnobot...he's a Man of the People™

Dooooooooooooooom!!! for the morning
Ladies and gentlemen, I want you relax, take a deep breath. Relax. Breathe. Deep...breath... Now imagine - for just a minute - that this recovery is a new top forming. You're getting sleepy... so sleepy... relax into your chair, feel the body becoming heavier... heavier... now, you will wake up and remember nothing of what was said until you hear the phrase 'buy now or be priced out forever'. When I snap my fingers, you will be fully awake. Fully... awake...

SNAP!

From the post:

“In addition, builders across the country continue to report that overly tight lending conditions and inaccurate appraisals are major obstacles to completing sales at this time.”

You mean normal lending conditions AND normal appraisals.

Wink

Well, hope those builders were not counting on my participation in their hopium toking.

I ain't gonna buy another house, since I will already inherit one that will need fixing up.

I ain't gonna buy another car, just keep fixing the one I got, and then buy used and fix that one too.

I ain't gonna buy anything buy another crap pair of shoes, because the ones I got are getting worn out by the morning walk. (four pair a year- paid $24 for the last pair).

I will buy some books. I might buy some more food, but I should eat less, dammit.

I might eat lunch out. I ate dinner out last friday night- and took my son to a movie on Sunday.

That is all, no great economic spending is coming.

I might just buy a bucket of paint this fall and paint my giant living room.

Gonna refinish the concrete too- that is the cheapest- eh?

soooooo, ready for the crap economy of nothing?

Because we are here.

Someday this war's gonna end...

Caffeine is required for minimal brain function. The appraisal function is pretty well broken with a middleman now taking a cut of a fee that has not increased since the 1980's. A lot of the appraisals I see are clearly not done by someone who has seen the property and the comparables. Look at the overhead of appraisers and you will get it. Netting $25k full time is doing pretty well in the first few years and getting past $50k is mighty hard.

Good morning. Lets take a coffee break

Did Spain beat up the Greek Its not easy being green ?

We are getting less than 24 hrs. per "it's all fixed" rally.

Citizen AllenM wrote:

I ain't gonna...

Yeah but you are OLD. What are the twentysomethings going to do?

Blackhalo wrote:

Yeah but you are OLD. What are the twentysomethings going to do?

Either what CK wrote or pay their student loans?

Sit at home in their 'rents basement, if what my older colleagues complain about is typical. See the mov Clerks. Nothing has changed much on that front.

Old- still 45 for a couple more days, thank you.

Just tired.

It was a lot of work relaxing this weekend. I did burgers on the grill in 110 degs at 6 pm yesterday.

Someday this war's gonna end...

Comrade Kristina wrote:

Be unemployed and broke?

In large numbers, and no particular order -- crime, working for cash, scamming the government, and the joining the underground economy.

Uncle Warrens confident.
Connected buying on the cheap or
Falling Knife
Only time will tell....

The billionaire's Omaha, Nebraska-based firm, which is a ResCap bondholder, offered to match Fortress's price of about $2.4 billion for the mortgage operations. It's also proposing fees that are about $60 million lower than Nationstar's if it's outbid. Berkshire said it's prepared to pay $1.45 billion for the loan portfolio, compared with Ally's $1.4 billion for a sale outside the bankruptcy plan backed by the car lender.

Read more: Buffett Extends Real-Estate Bet With ResCap Pursuit: Mortgages

Comrade Kristina wrote:

Be unemployed and broke?

Kind of hard to raise kids in that environment. Median age to start a family due to rise? Well except for those who are skilled at deferring those costs to the states...

Executive coach: 'Finance is an amoral world, bordering on the immoral' | Joris Luyendijk | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

"I am sure your readers are familiar with psychological research comparing the personality traits of prison populations with those of successful managers. It found remarkable similarities; they are narcissistic, egocentric, manipulative … The research has been replicated over at least 12 different populations and the findings are consistent. Criminals and CEOs are remarkably similar.

Hoocoodanode Laughing out loud

KarmaPolice wrote:
I can't wait to see the long faces when Suzy and Joe get screwed over again by the GOP.
Fears for US healthcare after court ruling - FT.com
I'm not sure that this is correct. Medicare does not have an individual mandate or any other mandate. And Medicare payments are not being challenged.

It was a lot of work relaxing this weekend. I did burgers on the grill in 110 degs at 6 pm yesterday.

Someday this war's gonna end...

Nice eating well while sweating...weight loss with no exercise actually involved..WIN!

Citizen AllenM wrote:

I did burgers on the grill in 110 degs at 6 pm yesterday.

Wow...do you live in Saudi Arabia?

ResistanceIsFeudal wrote:

SNAP!

I assume you mean the food stamp program.

Phoenix, dammit.

No oil, just sand and heat. High today gonna be 114-112 range. Next week could make 120, just what I need to melt the interns.

Someday this war's gonna end...

JP wrote:

I assume you mean the food stamp program.

LOL... I hadn't even thought of that. It was just ending the trance.

So what do you think of the recovery?

traderwalt wrote:

And Medicare payments are not being challenged.

According to the article:

"The law includes a formula that sets rates for doctors who treat Medicare patients, and that rate would immediately be invalid, raising questions about how quickly the government could establish a new rate and commence payments.

The law also created a system for regulators to begin approval of generic versions of expensive biotech drugs. That process, too, would be in limbo if the law were overturned, creating a cloud of uncertainty over a multi-billion-dollar industry."

So there's that.....

Citizen AllenM wrote:

Next week could make 120, just what I need to melt the interns.

Sweaty Interns....sounds like an interesting movie.

Wink

As a former NAHB member, may I say I am so thankful that I don't have to swing the hammer anymore.

Citizen AllenM wrote:

No oil, just sand and heat.

I was in Sedona in July. OMG! the pain....but very beautiful.

KarmaPolice wrote:

"The law includes a formula that sets rates for doctors who treat Medicare patients, and that rate would immediately be invalid, raising questions about how quickly the government could establish a new rate and commence payments.

And default to the reimbursement schedule that is in effect now?

Citizen AllenM wrote:

High today gonna be 114-112 range.

last year we had 70+ days over 100 deg. Temps were held up by a north bubble shift in the jet stream that kept a high in place all summer. Weather maps now look like that north shift has drifted west and is over the NM-Az border.

I've always wondered about the allure of living in a desert like Phoenix.

Matty wrote:

. . . may I say I am so thankful that I don't have to swing the hammer anymore.

Now, where did I lay that 28 ounce rigging axe?

sportsfan wrote on Mon, 6/18/2012 - 7:43 am (in reply to...)
Matty wrote:
. . . may I say I am so thankful that I don't have to swing the hammer anymore.
Now, where did I lay that 28 ounce rigging axe?

Ummm... Sorry. I borrowed it to square the joists and never put it back.

Lurking Lawyer wrote:

I've always wondered about the allure of living in a desert like Phoenix.

http://i.imgur.com/YBt4B.jpg

Comrade Kristina wrote:

I am really going to enjoy watching these people get their karma served up to them.

“Can we all get along?”

KarmaPolice wrote:

"The law includes a formula that sets rates for doctors who treat Medicare patients

I think they are referring to the challenge as to whether Congress has the power to regulate healthcare. Proponents claim that healthcare is valid interstate commerce, opponents disagree.

I think healthcare is a utility, but I didn't even stay in a Holiday Inn last night...

traderwalt wrote:

And default to the reimbursement schedule that is in effect now?

The article does not say....

traderwalt wrote:

I think they are referring to the challenge as to whether Congress has the power to regulate healthcare

If the courts disagree with congressional oversight/regulation of healthcare it's a whole new ballgame, the ramifications are huge. Welcome back to the early 20th century.

math is hard:

Robert Samuelson: The folly of Obamacare - The Washington Post

In 2014, the ACA requires all employers with 50 or more full-time workers to provide insurance or pay fines (“the employer mandate”). On the one hand, formal economic studies conclude that most employers now offering insurance will continue to do so; on the other, in direct surveys of firms, 30 percent or more say they might drop insurance and pay fines. Uncovered people must buy insurance (“the individual mandate”) or face penalties, though government will subsidize households with incomes up to four times the poverty level ($92,200 for a family of four in 2012).

Those two things ("most will continue", "30% might drop") are not mutually exclusive.

Lurking Lawyer wrote:

I've always wondered about the allure of living in a desert like Phoenix.

It's cheap.

The same reason people keep moving to Texas.

Homebuilder confidence is evident over the ridge in the busted subdivision from years ago that was resurrected last year. The new group has 5 or 6 houses in rough framing right now, an entire cul de sac, as it were. These would be the single story 1200-1400 sf variety that replaced the two story 2300-2500 sf variety that was going up and staying vacant all the way through the summer of 2008 before that group gave up.

Unintended consequences really are the best.

The Lorax wrote:

If the courts disagree with congressional oversight/regulation of healthcare it's a whole new ballgame, the ramifications are huge. Welcome back to the early 20th century.

This will be our new national monument:

Cash, and no, I dont need a receipt
...../\
.../__\
/ Annuit Cœptis \
"CAVEAT EMPTOR"

traderwalt wrote:

I think healthcare is a utility,

Strangely, some people believe the same applies to access of inexpensive gasoline.

Wink

The Lorax wrote:

If the courts disagree with congressional oversight/regulation of healthcare...

Will the court then revisit the ruling of Interstate Commerce with regard to Medical Marijuana? If the states rights protect
"healthcare." What is the justification for the Feds crackdown on dispensaries?

Goooood Mooooorning Fiatnam Lets take a coffee break

Nice time @ the Playboy Jazz Festival, the music was ok, and the people watching as always, sublime.

Funny thing on the for the most part useless big electric freeway signs in the City of Angles, they all have a message warning of the penalty of texting whilst driving, and a minimum $159 fine that could result from sending one, vis a vis a message that was essentially a text.

Irony isn't worth a bucket of warm piss~

Funny, I often post how well we're doing RE wise, in my area.
And today a guy, I haven't talked to in 20 yrs., cold calls me out of the blue. Survey chief and whole crew layed off - guy was shocked. Calling all his connections - nothing out there - I was prolly near the bottom of the list since it's been so long.
His office was closer to DC - but sometimes that's worse due to the lack of undeveloped land.
The guy was with the company for many years (on and off).
He's 45 and he's thinking about changing careers - glad I got layed off when I was 23...

Aryanzona is a test-state-dummy for heat absorbtion and its effects politically.

Blackhalo wrote:

If the states rights protect "healthcare." What is the justification for the Feds crackdown on dispensaries?

Sssshhhhhh. They don't have to be consistent, . . . or, as they would say, that's a different case.

Eric wrote:

Those two things ("most will continue", "30% might drop") are not mutually exclusive.

Eventually some employers may continue coverage they now have, others may cut back to minimum levels mandated by the new law, and others may drop coverage altogether and pay the fine. One would think that eliminating it all together would save the most money, but I heard a healthcare consultant claim that coverage tailored to an employer's workforce may be cheaper and offer a competitive advantage.

sportsfan wrote:

Sssshhhhhh. They don't have to be consistent, . . . or, as they would say, that's a different case.

I'd like someone to explain which reasons for criminalizing MJ don't apply to tobacco.

Rob Dawg wrote:

I'd like someone to explain which reasons for criminalizing MJ don't apply to tobacco.

Cash, and no, I dont need a receipt

traderwalt wrote:

coverage tailored to an employer's workforce may be cheaper and offer a competitive advantage.

It will depend on the age of the employees, level of insurance. Lots of places that still offer insurance are going catastrophic only, large deductable.

Eric wrote:

Those two things ("most will continue", "30% might drop") are not mutually exclusive.

Walmart Cuts Employee Health Care Benefits - ABC News

Many of these people do not realize that the trend to eliminate private health care was on-going....way before Obamacare.

Oman wrote:

He's 45 and he's thinking about changing careers - glad I got layed off when I was 23...

The word 'career' is in mortal danger. It has been the foundation for most of life since the middle ages (or possibily before), but damn few occupations now offer the prospect of rewarding work (mentally or economically) for a lifetime.

People may have to develop what amounts to handiman's skills for clusters of jobs. Nothing offers permanence.

Rob Dawg wrote:

I'd like someone to explain which reasons for criminalizing MJ don't apply to tobacco.

The absence of corporate dollars supporting the drug is the best reason to make that one illegal.

The other one, as we know, does not fail the corporate dollars test.

I'd like someone to explain which reasons for criminalizing MJ don't apply to tobacco.

Population control?

Because...well, just because. That's why.

Rob Dawg wrote:

I'd like someone to explain which reasons for criminalizing MJ don't apply to tobacco.

and alcohol.

RATM wrote:

Rob Dawg wrote:
I'd like someone to explain which reasons for criminalizing MJ don't apply to tobacco.
and alcohol.

Cash, and no, I dont need a receipt

oh, +BATF

Jackdawracy wrote:

Aryanzona is a test-state-dummy for heat absorbtion and its effects politically.

Actually, it's a huge mega-study in Lipitor-induced dementia.

Smile

You'd get busted for lighting up a Marlboro over the weekend if you weren't in one of the 4 tiny smoking areas in the Hollywood Bowl, but no problemo with the other smokeable. MC Bill Cosby kept on egging the crowd to light up~

KarmaPolice wrote:

Actually, it's a huge mega-study in Lipitor-induced dementia.

I shouldn't laugh, but New Keyboard

Bubblismo has out done him/herself.

the challenge as to whether Congress has the power to regulate healthcare insurance. Proponents claim that healthcare insurance is valid interstate commerce

Some people who object to social insurance financing argue that the state and/or federal (Medicade, Medicare) plan administrators interfere with or limit doctor-patient healthcare ("medical") decisions; and that, more generally, private insurers' employees interfere with or limit doctor-patient healthcare decisions.

In any case, the questions before the SCOTUS derive from two: whether or not the US Constitution vest authority in the federal government to compel individuals to purchase any commercial good or service; and whether provisions of the statute are severable in spite of the conspicuous, unprecedented absence of such qualifer in the text itself.

traderwalt wrote:

but I heard a healthcare consultant claim that coverage tailored to an employer's workforce may be cheaper and offer a competitive advantage.

The IT industry benefits due to the fact of the young workforce.

Financials.....not so much.

josap wrote:

It will depend on the age of the employees, level of insurance.

Yeah, some employers will offer wellness programs which will include financial incentives such as the opportunity to join a lower cost, lower risk insurance pool if they quit smoking. Older employees may have difficulty affording coverage.

The CVBB shares the same heat issues as Arayanzona, and the same politics. Coincidence?

Jackdawracy wrote:

but no problemo with the other smokeable.

Ok, so a contact high is just fine for the kids. But just smoke it a really bad thing.

Fed cig tax is $1.01, then state tax (Az is $2., then city etc tax) Lots of money.
Cigarette taxes in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jim-

People may have to develop what amounts to handiman's skills for clusters of jobs. Nothing offers permanence.

Seems tough to do in today's environment. Everything seems so specialized. It's one thing to diversify when you have a skill set already - but, harder to be diverse from the word go.
Not sure what to tell someone.

What if they did away with health insurance and taxed hfcs, sugar, white flour, corn to a lesser extent, and we all got healthier?

lawyerliz wrote:

What if they did away with health insurance and taxed hfcs, sugar, white flour, corn to a lesser extent, and we all got healthier?

As long as they don't tax bacon.

Jim the Realtor's picture is on the front page of yahoo finance right now.

traderwalt wrote:

Older employees may have difficulty affording coverage.

The part of the insure for each employee is the same through out a company. The insurance co sets the rate depending on how many are old / young / have health issues.So if there are say 60% over 40 yrs old, everyone pays more.

Greece blinks, but respite could be brief - The Globe and Mail

Monday, Jun. 18 2012,

"Mervyn King, the governor of the Bank of England, once said that it is not rational to start a bank run, but it is entirely rational to participate in one...

The formation of a new government will not change the fact that Greece’s economy remains in near free-fall, its banks exceedingly shaky. And a new coalition government may be short-lived, with Syriza having emerged as such a powerful opposition force. Political instability could easily accelerate the deposit withdrawals and Mr. King’s words would once again haunt Greece’s banking officials."

Apocalypse Later: Seven And A Half Things To Know

"Somehow the Greek people pulled together over the weekend to keep the global economy from toppling, on fire, over a cliff into an abyss filled with poisonous snakes. Hooray!

I believe we are missing the boat by not taxing tax.

lawyerliz wrote:

What if they did away with health insurance and taxed hfcs, sugar, white flour, corn to a lesser extent, and we all got healthier?

Farmers in bulk would switch marijuana?

Gluten too.

Hahahahaha.

No tax on Pigged parts.

Eric wrote:

As long as they don't tax bacon.

UR DOING IT RONG. You don't tax behaviors and stuff you LIKE!! Taxes are for punishing behaviors and consumption you don't like.

Mary wrote:

whether or not the US Constitution vest authority in the federal government to compel individuals to purchase any commercial good or service

Personally I do agree that the personal mandate is on tenuous grounds legally. If the federal government can compel us to buy this, what else can they compel us to buy?

Tom Stone wrote:

Caffeine is required for minimal brain function. The appraisal function is pretty well broken with a middleman now taking a cut of a fee that has not increased since the 1980's. A lot of the appraisals I see are clearly not done by someone who has seen the property and the comparables. Look at the overhead of appraisers and you will get it. Netting $25k full time is doing pretty well in the first few years and getting past $50k is mighty hard.

Tru dat...but then again, "middlemen" are the foundation of the Way....you of all people know that.....

josap wrote:

The part of the insure for each employee is the same through out a company. The insurance co sets the rate depending on how many are old / young / have health issues.So if there are say 60% over 40 yrs old, everyone pays more.

Oops, I think you're right.

It seems to me we may have passed the high point for quality of life for most of
us any way.

The Lorax wrote:

Personally I do agree that the personal mandate is on tenuous grounds legally. If the federal government can compel us to buy this, what else can they compel us to buy?

I was told that broccoli is next.

ResistanceIsFeudal wrote:

I shouldn't laugh, but

Hey don't laugh.

Demyelination is a big problem with statins.

KarmaPolice wrote:

I was in Sedona in July

now that speaks volumes

traderwalt wrote:

Farmers in bulk would switch marijuana?

Where do I sign up?

Tongue

sportsfan wrote:

Now, where did I lay that 28 ounce rigging axe?

rigging ax?

traderwalt wrote:

I was told that broccoli is next.

I was told it was Treasury bonds. I guess we have different sources.

They prescribed me lipator, but I never took it.

anything that doctors are that enthusiastic about has got to have problems.

justaskin wrote:

now that speaks volumes

...about what?

shill wrote:

California Housing Market Continues to Post Strong Gains in May, Home Sales Rise to Highest Level in More Than Three Years, Low Inventory a Critical Issue, C.A.R. Reports | Business Wire

You are getting sleepy... very sleepy....

I feel a little more confident, too

... been working out.

Just Pullin' Yer Leg

Isn't it quite telling that in magazines, there is 1 full page of advertising for prescription drugs, followed by 2 pages of side effects, etc., all in text?

The Lorax wrote:

Personally I do agree that the personal mandate is on tenuous grounds legally. If the federal government can compel us to buy this, what else can they compel us to buy?

So you are happy buying it for them through increased premiums and cost allocations? Go right on. I would rather them have some responsibility for their costs.

Jackdawracy wrote:

there is 1 full page for prescription drugs, followed by 2 pages of side effects, etc., all in text?

Prozac

Land mass - The Daily 

North Americans are so fat that the continent has more than one-third of the world population’s body weight, despite being home to less than 10 percent of the planet’s people.

Also 5% of global population uses 25% of global energy production

Gluttonous ya think Sick

Jackdawracy wrote:

Isn't it quite telling that in magazines, there is 1 full page of advertising for prescription drugs, followed by 2 pages of side effects, etc., all in text

We have a pill for that!

lawyerliz wrote:

What if they did away with health insurance and taxed hfcs, sugar, white flour, corn to a lesser extent, and we all got healthier?

Did you know that some of the lunch meats you get from the deli contain "Corn Syrup Solids" ? HFCS is hiding everywhere, even in places you would not expect.

RayOnTheFarm wrote:

Did you know that some of the lunch meats you get from the deli contain "Corn Syrup Solids" ? HFCS is hiding everywhere, even in places you would not expect.

The new Osama.

RayOnTheFarm wrote:

HFCS is hiding everywhere, even in places you would not expect.

Yep, they put that crap in everything.

The Lorax wrote:

what else can they compel us to buy?

Defense contracts for the well connected (via taxes.)

Jackdawracy wrote:

followed by 2 pages of side effects,

You need to make sure that Harry understands the significance of a 4-hour boner.

Wink

shill wrote:

SLW With wings

where is rich?

Only solution is universal healthcare for everyone. Those so inclined financially could then buy private insurance if they found the public insurance lacking.

Of course, Ray. Because we tend to buy sweet or sweetened products, preferring them to all others. If we didn't, it wouldn't be there.

Lurking Lawyer wrote:

Only solution is universal healthcare for everyone. Those so inclined financially could then buy private insurance if they found the public insurance lacking

Sorry, the public option is off the table.

Italy market - 3.10%
Spain market - 3.14%
Athens + 3.64%

RayOnTheFarm wrote:

HFCS is hiding everywhere, even in places you would not expect.

Because sugar is addictive. The sweeter it is, the more you want it.

Furthermore, due to increasing levels of sugars in foods, people have lost the ability to detect subtle sweetness. You then need to increase the dosage to achieve the same effect.

justaskin wrote:

sportsfan wrote:

Now, where did I lay that 28 ounce rigging axe?

rigging ax?


Axe? Maybe I was thinking of the body spray, not ancient history. I don't feel like it, but I guess I'll drag my ass off to work. Later

I'd prefer potential side effects like the weird ones such as gambling tendencies as a result, to be depicted in the same happy go lucky manner as the print ad, but you can't have everything, where would you put it?

Lurking Lawyer wrote:

Those so inclined financially could then buy private insurance

Concierge doctors....

Survey chief and whole crew layed off - guy was shocked.

To state the obvious - in construction downturns, the survey guys are the first to feel it.

km4 wrote:

North Americans are so fat that the continent has more than one-third of the world population’s body weight, despite being home to less than 10 percent of the planet’s people.

Think about this (assuming for the moment it were true; i'm not going to fact check it). This would imply that the average North American weighs three to four times the worldwide average. Let's say the average American weighed 250 pounds (that's got to be on the high side)--that would mean the worldwide average was on the order of 70-80 pounds...which ought to make it clear that what we're talking about here isn't so much obesity or gluttony as demographics, the percentage of the total population made up of children. When birthrates are very high and life expectancy very low, average weights are going to be low regardless of the size of the adults in the population.

Lurking Lawyer wrote:

Sounds almost like a drug......

The fruit industry know this very, very well.

All those white peaches and nectarines...pure sugar.

Honeycrisp apples.....pure sugar AND freakishly large.

RATM wrote:

Jim the Realtor's picture is on the front page of yahoo finance right now.

Jim's a rock star, I'm tellin' ya!
he's like the Ed Wood of real estate video walk-throughs...

Met a friend that's an iCU nurse and she told me a term i'd never heard before.

"Doc In A Box" = local for profit medical clinic

We definitely need to make sure that we keep the population spread out. I'd suck of North America tipped over because everyone decided to move to one of the coasts.

Jackdawracy wrote:

I believe we are missing the boat by not taxing tax.

in my state you pay sales tax on wine and liquor...

Yalt wrote:

Let's say the average American weighed 250 pounds (that's got to be on the high side)

High side? Sorry, 250 pounds for any human is obese. Unless you are 7 feet tall.

Ever wonder what the USA would look like if it had been settled for 3,000 years by the likes of us, instead of the locals?

Lurking Lawyer wrote:

We definitely need to make sure that we keep the population spread out. I'd suck of North America tipped over because everyone decided to move to one of the coasts.

Send the obese to Kansas!! Do it for the stability of our nation!!

Yalt wrote:

North Americans are so fat that the continent has more than one-third of the world population’s body weight, despite being home to less than 10 percent of the planet’s people.

Just one more reason why the next big earthquake in California will cause the western part of the state to disappear into the Pacific Ocean.

Jackdawracy wrote:

"Doc In A Box" = local for profit medical clinic

That's what we call them here. Walk in clinic, pay for services. They do accept insurance and are far cheaper than the hospital emergency room visit.

The drug stores have nurse practioners, they are cheaper than the Doc in the Box. But just for flu and simple stuff.

Jackdawracy wrote:

"Doc In A Box" = local for profit medical clinic

that's odd. my former neighbor, formerly a surgeon, in Indiana died last week at 93...
that's the very term I used to describe his situation...

Lots of medical services being handled by midlevel providers these days. Needs to happen for medicine to be profitable.

You want to build a worldview out of well-constructed one-line soundbites that you don't bother to think through, that's your business.

I'm not suggesting obesity isn't a problem, but the data point you're citing as evidence is poorly chosen. (No, actually it's well-chosen, for its tendency to inhibit thought.)

Jackdawracy wrote:

"Doc In A Box" = local for profit medical clinic

Then they pimp it as if it is something special to their clients.

Doctors are THE worst business managers that's why they need huge cashflows to cover up their incompetence.

The next big earthquake would only need to be near the California Delta, which if it became inundated with sea water as a result, goodbye SoCal, as far as getting your share of the California Water Project largesse, as in imported water probably being reduced by 85%, just like that.

KarmaPolice wrote:

Doctors are THE worst business managers that's why they need huge cashflows to cover up their incompetence.

Malpractice insurance can get extremely expensive, or so I've been told.

Jackdawracy wrote:

Ever wonder what the USA would look like if it had been settled for 3,000 years by the likes of us, instead of the locals?

Perhaps Mitt could tell you that....

I do know this:
Girls in Manhattan are smashing
Girls in Indiana can smash you Duke Point

traderwalt wrote:

western part of the state to disappear into the Pacific Ocean.

That's not where the bloaters are. You gotta go deep.

Jackdawracy wrote:

Ever wonder what the USA would look like if it had been settled for 3,000 years by the likes of us, instead of the locals?

I think the appearance of the native race in the Americas was about 15000 years ago. Of course that is meaningless if one is of the persuasion that the earth is 10000 years old.

ResistanceIsFeudal wrote:

Malpractice insurance can get extremely expensive, or so I've been told.

Pure BS and an attempt for a sympathy vote.

Most doctors are in a group policy and pay very little.

arthur_dent wrote:

I think the appearance of the native race in the Americas was about 15000 years ago. Of course that is meaningless if one is of the persuasion that the earth is 10000 years old.

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josap wrote:

That's what we call them here. Walk in clinic, pay for services. They do accept insurance and are far cheaper than the hospital emergency room visit.

We've used them. Found them good for emergencies: Painfully infected finger, headache and lung congestion that won't go away. Worked out fine. Wait not more than an hour and usually less, not seven hours in the emergency room. You see a physician in a clean, adequately equipped place. As always, though, you should have good insurance.

Yes. If SCOTUS were to affirm this authority in particular, that power bodes arbitrary ill for all.

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DEPT. OF H&HS, ET AL. v.FLORIDA, ET AL.
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The Supreme Court will consider four questions in reviewing the Affordable Care Act.

  1. The Anti-Injunction Act (supremacy clause)
  2. The Commerce Clause and the individual
  3. Severability
  4. The Spending Clause and Medicaid
    4 questions | video briefs | case law

I picked 3,000 years ago, because its when we western Europe human beans really started to get uppity.

Hey Duke, is your girlfriend related to the Crump or Overton families ?

Jackdawracy wrote:

I picked 3,000 years ago, because its when we western Europe human beans really started to get uppity.

Also the beginnings of vassalage. Oh how I miss those days.

Innocent

Jackdawracy wrote:

human beans really started to get uppity.

Stonehenge is thought to be from 5000-4000 years old. Appropriate topic given that Wed is summer solstice.

Potential brand names for big corpse wacky tobaccy

Winstoned

Stonedhenge


GERMANY'S MERKEL SAYS CANNOT ACCEPT ANY LOOSENING OF AGREED REFORM PLEDGES IN GREECE AFTER ELECTION


MERKEL SAYS DOES NOT SEE ANY REASON TO SPEAK ABOUT A NEW AID PACKAGE FOR GREECE ON TOP OF THE TWO ALREADY AGREED


GERMANY'S MERKEL EXPECTS QUICK FORMATION OF NEW AND STABLE GOVERNMENT IN GREECE


but she said this last year, albeit, in a slightly different tone and thrust:
YouTube - Basement Tape of Angela Merkel Channeling Hitler @ EU Economic Crisis Summit

pavel chichikov wrote:

"lung congestion that won't go away. "

Try NAC next time.

It's an over-the-counter product and useful in symptomatic relief involving lung infections, its safe and works quickly. Usually known as "NAC". Works well when taken orally.

Acetylcysteine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Inhaled acetylcysteine is indicated for mucolytic ("mucus-dissolving") therapy as an adjuvant in respiratory conditions with excessive and/or thick mucus production. Such conditions include emphysema, bronchitis, tuberculosis, bronchiectasis, amyloidosis, pneumonia, cystic fibrosis and Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease"

To state the obvious - in construction downturns, the survey guys are the first to feel it.

We're well off the bottom here. I wouldn't have been suprised 2-3 years ago. I would've thought if he made it through then he would be ok.
May be a symptom of the firm itself..?

Lebron James is obese? He's not 7 ft tall but he IS 250 lbs Wink

sporkfed wrote:

is your girlfriend related to the Crump

her grandpappy helped build the Crump machine and in the process made himself a rich man
by shaking down the railroads...

The EU is doomed. So buy now. - The Cody Word - MarketWatch

The author says the EU is doomed, and what does he start off with as a buy? FACEBOOK!

LMAO!

KarmaPolice wrote:

Pure BS and an attempt for a sympathy vote.
Most doctors are in a group policy and pay very little.

We used to have a few doc's here at HCN... I'd be interested in their opinions on the matter.

Comrade Kristina wrote:

Lebron James is obese? He's not 7 ft tall but he IS 250 lbs

FATASS! Just another bloater

I'm relieved Duke Point isn't pals with Robert Crumb, or is he?

Jackdawracy wrote:

I'm releived Duke Point isn't pals with Robert Crumb, or is he?

Is Ms. Crumb a North Korean super model?

Yeah, I think he's right on that one. Then there are states like Florida that have tort reform so they can't even be sued for very much here no matter what they do to you. The surgeon that got busted with 4 pounds of cocaine was making over a hundred thousand dollars per MONTH. Poor guy had to deal cocaine as a sideline Laughing out loud It's okay though, he only got 5 years, he'll be out in 3.

I heard if the Muslin Brotherhood wins the election, it'll be gaberdine for us all.

Comrade Kristina wrote:

Yeah, I think he's right on that one.

Even a blind Squirrel!...

The surgeon that got busted with 4 pounds of cocaine was making over a hundred thousand dollars per MONTH. Poor guy had to deal cocaine as a sideline

Those Now back to the yacht race's don't buy themselves, yo!

Comrade Kristina wrote:

He's not 7 ft tall but he IS 250 lbs

Perhaps a lot of internal fat.

YouTube - Jacques' MRI Scan - The Men Who Made Us Fat - Episode 1 - BBC Two

If one could count on light sentencing like the good doctor got it would almost make drug dealing a lucrative and non risky profession Wink

Morsi did win the election. US counter-intel response... developing.

If one could count on light sentencing like the good doctor got it would almost make drug dealing a lucrative and non risky profession

Cash, and no, I dont need a receipt Yo!

Kestion : was driving today, not really paying attention as I should have been, and ended up slightly tailgating and doing about 50 in a 40 as I approached the tailgate situation. Of course, just as I am noticing my screw up, coming in the other direction is an unmarked car. I hit the brakes, I see him hit his when I look in my rearview, and then see him turn around...

Rather than keep driving, I just pull over into the driveway of the parking lot of an unoccupied building, near the road but enough space for the cop to fit, and put on my hazards.

Cop goes right by, and then I can see him hesitating as he wonders which way to turn at the upcoming road split, which gives little visibility as to what way I might have went. I waited a minute, then left.

I feel a bit bad, because I pulled over with the intent to take my ticket. Then I worried that I might be looked at as evading if he spotted me after as I returned to driving. Talk about nerves..

Comrade Kristina wrote:

If one could count on light sentencing like the good doctor got it would almost make drug dealing a lucrative and non risky profession

we'll call it 'pharmacy'... the rubes'll never figure it out, til it's too late.

Comrade Kristina wrote:

The surgeon that got busted with 4 pounds of cocaine was making over a hundred thousand dollars per MONTH. Poor guy had to deal cocaine as a sideline

John De Lorean's a practicing surgeon? I thought he was sleeping with the sturgeons.

4 lbs is not enough to supplement his salary. This is not a one time deal. He'd have to do that monthly.

Actually, he wasn't dealing. That was his "personal" stash or so he claimed. I heard from some of his domestic help that it was indeed, his personal stash. Wink

We were parked @ Hollywood Bowl on Saturday, and its stacked parking, as in you ain't going nowhere until the cars immediately in front of you depart, and if you're in the middle, thats like 10 cars that have to find their drivers.

The car in front of us was a mustang that clipped its right side mirror on another car's mirror in the next lane, which meant both parties got out and it was all black folks, and seeing as we were prisoners of zenda, boxed in behind them, we got to watch the proceedings from the front row, as it were.

The female driver of the mustang was clearly in the wrong as she was going way too fast, and along with her were 2 other females, and in the other car was 2 males.

Everybody whipped out their iPhones and took about 100 photos documenting $300 worth of damage, and then the show really began, we watched a powerful black woman emasulate a black man, and its funny how they can use the N word as much as they want, but as I said to my Jewish friend in the car with me, how would it sound if you talked to everybody Jewish like "Hey kike, how's it hanging?"

Yalt wrote:

When birthrates are very high and life expectancy very low, average weights are going to be low regardless of the size of the adults in the population.

Very nice. All you need is a Builder Confidence analogy. Perhaps survivor bias?

ok...
this is a work in progress... (needs editing... something about car wrecks that is inherently funny)
YouTube - EuroZone's Death Race 2012
...
the filmic equivalent of Greece is seen at the 53 second mark...
....

makes more sense. ~2000 grams is probably enough to get him through a year, depending on how nice he is to his friends and (ho ho ho!) is that santa?

The group said Morsi took 51.8 percent of the vote to Shafiq's 48.1 percent out of 24.6 million votes cast, with 98 percent of the more than 13,000 poll centers counted....

Final official results are not expected until Thursday. The Brotherhood's declaration was based on results announced by election officials at individual counting centers, where each campaign has representatives who compile the numbers and make them public before the formal announcement. The Brotherhood's early, partial counts proved generally accurate in last month's first round vote....

Trying to rally the public in the last hours of voting, the Brotherhood presented a Morsi presidency as the last hope to prevent total control by the military council of Mubarak-era generals.

>
landssakes. All the anglophone twitters said the military worked to defend de ppls FREEDOMS.

"We got rid of one devil and got 19," said Mohammed Kanouna, referring to Mubarak and the members of the military council as he voted for Morsi after night fell in Cairo's Dar el-Salam slum. "We have to let them know there is a will of the people above their will."

But the prospect that the generals will still hold most power even after their nominal handover of authority to civilians by July 1

lordamercy. can I get a racoon lodge secret handshake?

has deepened the gloom, leaving some feeling the vote was essentially meaningless.

"Things have not changed at all. It is as if the revolution never happened," Ayat Maher, a 28-year-old mother of three, said as she waited for her husband to vote in Cairo's central Abdeen district. She said she voted for Morsi, but did not think there was much hope for him.

Muslim Brotherhood claims victory in Egypt elections [Haaretz - AP]

No oil, just sand and heat.

and insolation! The sunbelt should have been PV'd up decades ago.

Well, with $20 oil, maybe not.

Apparently he and the trophy wife had quite the habit. Good thing doctors don't have to take drug tests like the rest of us peons Wink Not that their being impaired would matter to anyone or anything Laughing out loud

KarmaPolice wrote:

..

Just as a counterpoint to the general negativity.

I appreciate your links and stories however controversial and sometimes superficial. They spark debate and act as a counterweight to orthodoxy on this board.

The one this morning about South Carolina politics was a gem!

GDD9000 wrote:

~2000 grams is probably enough to get him through a year

Good god. What's the LD50?

shill wrote:

"The Accidental Empire" by George Soros | Project Syndicate

"We like to think that the reason we enjoy our high standards of living is because we have been so clever at figuring out how to use the world's available resources. But we should not dismiss the possibility that there may also have been a nontrivial contribution of simply having been quite lucky to have found an incredibly valuable raw material that for a century and a half or so was relatively easy to obtain."
- James D. Hamilton

JP wrote:

Good god. What's the LD50?

Ask Len Bias.

adornosghost wrote:

But we should not dismiss the possibility that there may also have been a nontrivial contribution of simply having been quite lucky to have found an incredibly valuable raw material that for a century and a half or so was relatively easy to obtain."

oh Jesus!
that and a yellow sun Mr Hamilton.

Personally I do agree that the personal mandate is on tenuous grounds legally. If the federal government can compel us to buy this, what else can they compel us to buy?

this is one of the bigger lies from the right, that their own mandate idea is a form of compulsion. Nobody is "compelled" to buy anything, they can just pay the penalty.

If Congress had raised taxes and offered a deduction for carrying proper health insurance, there would be no difference vs. what PPACA is actually structured.

Just because home debtors get a deduction and kids come with outright tax credits, I'm not compelled to buy a house or have kids.

Incented, yes. Compelled, no.

ResistanceIsFeudal wrote:

Send the obese to Kansas!! Do it for the stability of our nation!!

They say that people and their dogs tend to resemble each other. In the Pig/Corn belt, the same thing occurs regarding the pigs and folks. Except the pigs are nicer, since are diversity aware/sensitive.

That's just a gimmick. It started because I didn't like wearing movie makeup that melted in the sun, but I've always done it as a joke. I believe that you'll find out in the next few years that the sun is good for you. You should be out in it a couple of hours a day. ~ George Hamilton

krone:EUR

Yup lets drag more currencies in to the currency wars.

"I appreciate your links and stories however controversial and sometimes superficial. They spark debate and act as a counterweight to orthodoxy on this board."

Keep the gluten links coming fast and furious Big smile

Duke of Con Dao wrote:

oh Jesus!
that and a yellow sun Mr Hamilton.

The last time we were living on that "Yellow Sun" energy real time, we had 700 million people on the planet, and continents to plunder, and oceans full of fish.

"There may also have been a nontrivial contribution of simply having been quite lucky to have found an incredibly valuable raw material that for a century and a half or so was relatively easy to obtain."

to beat my usual dead horse again, total oil imports are ~$300B/yr now. Health care costs are 8X that, and so are ground rents.

Now, oil imports come with the cost of money leaving our national economy, but health care rents and housing rents also tend to get pulled out of a given local economy too.

My thesis says if & when energy gets really expensive, other economic rents are going to get taken down in compensation.

This century, like every century, is going to be the battle of the rent-seekers.

Nobody was really ready for the rape and pillage that occurred when the Fikings landed here in their loanships in the early 21st century, led by Jamie the Red as legend has it.

Comrade Troyski wrote:

My thesis says if & when energy gets really expensive, other economic rents are going to get taken down in compensation.

This century, like every century, is going to be the battle of the rent-seekers.

And what about a rudimentary understanding of thermodynamics?

"Anyone who believes exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist."
-KB

Mary wrote:

krone:EUR

It's really a warning shot to the Swiss and those who might follow them with similar policies.

Comrade Troyski wrote:

Now, oil imports come with the cost of money leaving our national economy

guess you didn't read that piece in Times by Daniel Yergin about how our country is moving towards
independency...

The Lorax wrote:

Personally I do agree that the personal mandate is on tenuous grounds legally. If the federal government can compel us to buy this, what else can they compel us to buy?

Srsly? Aircraft carriers, prison cells for pot smoker, etc etc.....the list is practically endless.....too bad that that, obviously, is too difficult for SC justices to parse

Bubblisimo Gerkinov wrote:

BBC News - Russian warships 'ready to sail for Syria'

Saw it. What in the world is going on? Why is Putin not at the G20 meeting, and has declined to meet at the White House with Obama?

shill wrote:

"The Accidental Empire" by George Soros | Project Syndicate

rich man who gets no respect within the intelligentsia of the world.
made the mistake of thinking money was all he needed... should have talked to Gore Vidal

KarmaPolice wrote:

...about what?

light some incense & check your crystals, they'll tell you

pavel.chichikov wrote:

Why is Putin not at the G20 meeting, and has declined to meet at the White House with Obama?

Interesting times?

poic wrote:

Keep the gluten links coming fast and furious

LOL. My wife has celiacs (undiagnosed for many, many years) so I sympathize very much.

pavel.chichikov wrote:

What in the world is going on?

Jack Kennedy Redux.

Duke of Con Dao wrote:

guess you didn't read that piece in Times by Daniel Yergin about how our country is moving towards
independency...

http://home.entouch.net/dmd/cera.h2.jpg

No snark Duke?

I have the heartbreak of psoriasis.

Jackdawracy wrote:

I have the heartbreak of psoriasis.

I thought it was the shoulder ache of dislocation.

Yalt wrote:

we're talking about here isn't so much obesity or gluttony as demographics,

no doubt KP's link modeled for that..... Snark

If the states rights protect "healthcare." What is the justification for the Feds crackdown on dispensaries?

Gotta keep the system churning. Out in ideological space, it makes no sense.

But here in the real world, criminal justice system makes perfect sense. Their job is No one 17 and under admitted ing with your Familyblogfamilyblogfamilyblog , and business is good.

Thank Fat Tony for that one.

Gonzales v. Raich - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 

justaskin wrote:

Srsly?

It's a fine line but it's crossed when I'm legally required to hand over money to a for-profit company for simply being alive. We are so No one 17 and under admitted scared of the term "public healthcare" that we are screwing up each and every opportunity to have a competent system in place.

I've commented on this issue before -- agreeing, in principle, that no one is required to purchase a federal-qualified health insurance plan.

I even posted the provision of the act defining "individual responsibility," including tests of penalty exemption by individual qualification.

What you seem to have difficulty evaluating is the legal concept of stare decis and subsequent application of case law brought to bear in affirming political authority of the state.

The first instance under consideration by the SCOTUS is whether the federal government has any authority whatsoever to compel such participation. The test and penalty, if any, is beside the foregoing mandatory conditions of lawful conduct under the law.

KarmaPolice wrote:

All those white peaches and nectarines...pure sugar.

enjoy your wheat grass, whether it's unproccessed or converted to free range......more fruit for me, thank you

Jackdawracy wrote:

Jamie the Red

Named not for his beard, but for his balance sheet?

adornosghost wrote:

No snark Duke?

ok, so he's lousy at predicting prices. that doesn't mean he can't read the data correctly from the last 4 years
and show a pattern that supports greater US Independence from energy imports...

Why is Putin not at the G20 meeting, and has declined to meet at the White House with Obama?

Putin knows who the true masters are, and I am sure he would rather refrain from playing " Hey lets all be cartoons for the Tee Vee "

shill wrote:

Putin knows who the true masters are,

Who are they?

Who are they?

If you don't know, we're not going to tell you.

Enjoyed a fructose laden peach yesterday, had to eat it from a brown paper sack, lest someone report me to the authorities.

And what about a rudimentary understanding of thermodynamics?

That's just it -- growth in demand is going to continue to push prices up, up, up this century.

Supply is not going to collapse though, as long as all this cheap NG continues to flow we can crack Canadian sludge at $50-100/bbl.

EROEI on the Venezuelian muck might not be that great, but if it's unity or better it'll get productized too.

John De Lorean's a practicing surgeon? I thought he was sleeping with the sturgeons.

True story. The weekend before last there was a Delorean in the Ace Hardware parking lot. Both gullwing doors open, hood up. A few people were checking it out. I almost asked where the flux capacitor was.

Duke Point

Duke of Con Dao wrote:

ok, so he's lousy at predicting prices. that doesn't mean he can't read the data correctly from the last 4 years
and show a pattern that supports greater US Independence from energy imports...

I think you should become a great deal more literate on the subject.

Who are they?

If you have to ask...well you know.

justaskin wrote:

enjoy your wheat grass, whether it's unproccessed or converted to free range......more fruit for me, thank you

fruits? the Evil 's playground!!

Named not for his beard, but for his balance sheet?

Precisely inprecisely.

Woohoo!!

Turns out Toyota extended the warranty to 10 years/150k for this issue.

I'm at 147k so they replace the ECM and if it blew the transmission they replace it as well.

Just got my No one 17 and under admitted Wheres MY pony? !! Shakes Tiny Fist of Fury

Outsider wrote:

If you don't know, we're not going to tell you.

I think I'd rather not know. I can do without the disillusionment.

adornosghost wrote:

I think you should become a great deal more literate on the subject.

Word.

poic!

You saved $5k (probably) from THIS BLOG!

Now tell that to your wife next time she complains...

Oh, I'll be laughing about this for a long time.

So glad to hear it.

adornosghost wrote:

I think you should become a great deal more literate on the subject.

I am happy to be my imbecilic self, thank you very much. Yergin's considered a top oil biz analyst.
His piece in the Times made a good case, that's all I'm sayin'.

Comrade Troyski wrote:

Thank Fat Tony for that one.

Is the the same cat as Absent-Minded Al?

YouTube - I Don't Recall - Alberto Gonzales Hearing

The Lorax wrote:

It's a fine line but it's crossed when I'm legally required to hand over money to a for-profit company for simply being alive. We are so scared of the term "public healthcare" that we are screwing up each and every opportunity to have a competent system in place.

oh, I quite agree, but that fine line that stands out in your eye seems more like the mathematical ideal that an actual rubicon, at least to me...

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