This was a little more positive than the other regional reports that are all showing a slowdown in growth

That's because they still brew a lot of beer in this region. Beer is recession proof.

Ministry of Truth wrote: "Powered by Hopium :

Major Pullback in U.S. Consumer Spending for July

Edit: gotta remember a lotta UE folks had nuttin to spend

Jobless Claims Dip Because....
Initial jobless claims declined by 11,000 to 457,000 last week, but that followed a big rise the previous period, signaling little improvement in the job market.

Most significantly, according to the Labor Department's report , the number of continuing claims -- those drawn by workers for more than one week in the week ended July 17 -- increased by 81,000 to 4,565,000 from the preceding week's revised level of 4,484,000.

The largest decrease in claims occurred in New York, which saw claims fall by 19,552 in the week ended July 17 due to fewer layoffs in the transportation and service sectors. Other states with large decreases included Indiana, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Florida.

The largest increase in claims for the week ended July 17 occurred in California, which saw claims rise by 19,809 due to layoffs in the service sector. Other states with large increases included South Carolina, North Carolina, Illinois and Tennessee.

And the beat goes on.

Pigged

Your Fire Department going the way of a dodo, on account of lack of dough-dough?

If you own a swimming pool, become your own volunteer fire department, for about $800.

195 gallons a minute coursing through your hands from the gas powered pump sucking it out of the pool, and you're all over the fire, you can hit anything 100 feet away or more, with a 1 1/2 inch nozzle

Charlotte uptown Condo sales are hurting.

Many Vue buyers can't or won't close on high-dollar uptown condos

Many Vue buyers can't or won't close on high-dollar uptown condos - CharlotteObserver.com

This is the same building that sat unfinished for a while after subcontractors were not being paid.

When does the blockbuster Summer of Recovery transition into the Fall(tering) Recovery ?

Ministry of Truth wrote:

Powered by Hopium

You can buy a lot of the superficial appearance of a recovery when using OPM.....

bearly wrote:

Summer of Recovery

Sounds like a Zombie flck.

Hu just opened the green chute ?

Toss in the weaker tone of in the Fed's Beige Book (released yesterday), and this raises the question: Is Fed Chairman Bernanke and the FOMC behind the curve (again)?

The continuing adventures of Mr Understatement.

JP wrote:

The continuing adventures of Mr Understatement.

Are you "unexpectedly" "suggesting" a new name for our genial host?

A slowdown in growth and a slowdown are not the same thing. Maybe the actual numbers should be the issue. If we have re-set to a pre-boom level, then growth off this base is the best to hope for.

Is Fed Chairman Bernanke and the FOMC behind the curve (again)?

June 9th, 2008 – Bernanke: Despite a recent spike in the nation's unemployment rate, the danger that the economy has fallen into a "substantial downturn" appears to have waned,

Why is Elmo! showing his pimp hand today?

If we have re-set to a pre-boom level

Hahaha um ok. Don't hold your breath. Hey look I am all for the Hopium...but I am not seeing it. Artificially sure Rose Colored Glasses but nothing speaks volume....Just like the Market today..NO VOLUME.

Why is Elmo! showing his pimp hand today?

Weak consumer staples.

What does that word 'rebound' mean anyway?

In basketball, it means retaining control of the ball after a missed shot.

in NY where the state is facing layoffs and ever increasing deficits, nine senators couldn't be bothered to show up for a special session to deal with the problem.

Nine senators were not present when the Senate was conducting businsess - five Democrats and four Republicans. The Democrats were Malcolm Smith, George Onerato, Joseph Addabbo, Thomas Duane, and Bill Perkins

Read more: The Daily Politics

in NY where the state is facing layoffs and ever increasing deficits, nine senators couldn't be bothered to show up for a special session to deal with the problem.

Zandi disciples. Why ruin your vacation for a .25% drag to GDP problem?

in NY where the state is facing layoffs and ever increasing deficits, nine senators couldn't be bothered to show up for a special session to deal with the problem.

Nine senators were not present when the Senate was conducting businsess - five Democrats and four Republicans. The Democrats were Malcolm Smith, George Onerato, Joseph Addabbo, Thomas Duane, and Bill Perkins

Why would anyone expect them to? They don't give a shit about you or anyone else. Their only concern is their own personal portfolio's as well as to make sure they pass laws that hurt you as much as possible in your wallet.

After all it's our fault...not the policy makers.

Tic Tic Tic

12th Percentile wrote:

in NY where the state is facing layoffs and ever increasing deficits, nine senators couldn't be bothered to show up for a special session to deal with the problem.

In CA none showed up. Despite a Constitutional requirement for a Jul 1st balanced budget and ~$24b deficit they are on vacation until Aug 2nd.

12th:

At least the ones who showed up got paid for gaveling in and gaveling out.

FiveThirtyEight: Politics Done Right: It's Like Mathematically Unpossible for Republicans to Win the House, or Something

We're introducing a new scale tonight to "reward" polling and strategy memos which are vapid, disingenuous, jargony, or just plain fucking wrong. The scale is dubbed the Pennometer after former Clinton strategist Mark Penn, who was a master of the genre; it runs from 0 Penns for memos that are honest and persuasive to 5 Penns for those which might as well have been penned by Penn himself.

Our contestant in this pilot episode is this memo..........

of if you ask Dennis Rodman...Rebound means chicks, alcohol, party house at the beach and hollywood stars...Making shots was course he missed

black dog wrote:

Zandi disciples. Why ruin your vacation for a .25% drag to GDP problem?

The effort to end the recession and
jump-start the recovery was built around a
series of fiscal stimulus measures. Tax rebate
checks were mailed to lower- and middle-
income households in the spring of 2008;
the American Restoration and Recovery Act
(ARRA) was passed in early 2009; and sev-
eral smaller stimulus measures became law
in late 2009 and early 2010.5 In all, close to
$1 trillion, roughly 7 percent of GDP, will be
spent on fiscal stimulus. The stimulus has
done what it was supposed to do: end the
Great Recession and spur recovery. We do
not believe it a coincidence that the turn-
around from recession to recovery occurred
last summer, just as the ARRA was providing
its maximum economic benefit.

Lack of repercussions. Except maybe the ballot box. Speaking of which, how will Californians vote this upcoming election?

How nice of the hoi polloiticals to show unanimity on something...

FAA: Chelsea Clinton's wedding is a no-fly zone - Chelsea Clinton - Salon.com

I have paid no attention to this sensationalism nonsense but was curious who is the guy she is marrying.

Chelsea Clinton's fiancee, Marc Mezvinsky, is the son of former Iowa congressman and convicted felon Edward Mezvinsky and former NBC reporter and congresswoman Marjorie Margolies Mezvinsky. Mezvinsky is an investment banker with Goldman Sachs.

Ahhhh now I see why Laughing out loud

Well it is partially our fault. In NY polls show that over 90% of people think all the incumbents suck and should be replaced. When asked if they think this about their own assemblyman or senator they all say, "no. I like him, the rest need to go".

The only thing that ever changes is if one of these jokers goes to jail. Which is very rare.

Juvenal Delinquent wrote:

What does that word 'rebound' mean anyway?

the black swan coming will have the effect of re-booting the world economy, wipe out sovereign debts, and hearken an age of peace and prosperity

just sayin'

Rob Dawg wrote: "The effort to end the recession and jump-start the recovery was built around a
series of fiscal stimulus measures. Tax rebate checks were mailed to lower- and middle-income households in the spring of 2008;the American Restoration and Recovery Act (ARRA) was passed in early 2009; and several smaller stimulus measures became law in late 2009 and early 2010.5 In all, close to $1 trillion, roughly 7 percent of GDP, will be spent on fiscal stimulus.


from: http://seekingalpha.com/article/217290-how-my-doubts-about-stimulus-were-eased-a-little

Total tax cuts to individuals ($300B) and businesses ($100B) account for 36% of all stimulus spending.

Juvenal Delinquent wrote:

Dennis Rodman's

Speaking of the Worm, his baby mama's house was just lost to foreclosure near by. Prolly had something to do with the babies done with school - no more worm droppings due. Great athletes.

of if you ask Dennis Rodman...Rebound means chicks, alcohol, party house at the beach and hollywood stars...Making shots was course he missed

Normally don't like sports commentary, but +1.

Uncertainty to Stave off 'Austerians' and Keynesians on Fiscal Policy - Barrons.com

IT MAY NOT RANK with the Hatfields and the McCoys, but there's a battle raging. It's the Austerians vs. the Keynesians.

In one corner are the advocates of fiscal austerity, many of whom are adherents of the Austrian School of economics. Hence, the contraction into "Austerian." Their motto is to rip off the band-aid and get the pain over with.

Opposing them are the Keynesians, who contend it's counterproductive to tighten belts when people are hungry. Over the years, their prescription has evolved to Bloody Marys after every binge and bust instead of sweating out the previous excesses. So, each binge and hangover gets worse, requiring more relief the next day, which only encourages another bender.

interesting story...did you know the coin dealer from your coin dealing past....I used to live off 33rd in balboa back then and his parties were off the deep end....the helicopter on the beach was over the top more than our current admin...

Cinco-X wrote:

BUSTED: Obama's New Budget Chief Got a $900 Million Bonus From Citigroup After It Got A Bailout

The difference between a parting gift and a bribe is what, timing?

Sippn wrote:

BUSTED: Obama's New Budget Chief Got a $900 Million Bonus From Citigroup After It Got A Bailout

The difference between a parting gift and a bribe is what, timing?

and who you know....

Yes, Dwight was and is quite a player in the coin biz, he has a very keen mind over matters

Why is showing his pimp hand today?

I don't know, but it's potentially dropping below a major support level. Does it drop through it like it's done a couple of times before? I hope so, becauseI love watching bull traps.

Cinco-X wrote:

Business as usual:
BUSTED: Obama's New Budget Chief Got a $900 Million Bonus From Citigroup After It Got A Bailout

But I thought the bonuses were necessary to retain top talent Snark

JD<

I hope you saved your paper bag from last year....
Schedule

curious wrote:

BUSTED: Obama's New Budget Chief Got a $900 Million Bonus From Citigroup After It Got A Bailout

But I thought the bonuses were necessary to retain top talent

I was trying to think up something clever like that, but was unable to do so....kudos-

Just when a LSBF thinks there are no other ways of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, you have to go and do a thing like that?

curious wrote:

the bonuses were necessary to retain top talent

if you give it some thought, you might agree that they have retained his talent

Bonus was $900,000 not $900 million. Still a crook, as is the guy Chelsey Clinton is marrying. All bunch a scummy losers.

But I thought the bonuses were necessary to retain top talent

Lol right, I am still waiting for the Trickle down part of the game. Senator Kerry you care to chime in with your thoughts...I understand your a busy man. ( Douche bag )

while also sickening, it appears the bonus was not $900 million but instead $900,000.

Juvenal Delinquent wrote:

Just when a LSBF thinks there are no other ways of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, you have to go and do a thing like that?

What's a fern fondler to do?

volker the viking wrote:

if you give it some thought, you might agree that they have retained his talent

Citi runs the government now? I thought it was a subsidiary of GS....

Sippn wrote:

The difference between a parting gift and a bribe is what, timing?

Sweet surprise! We hit the Obama/Dem trifecta if Lew also gets caught cheating on his income taxes.

curious wrote:

Citi runs the government now?

positioning, time and timing

nothing is static

Obama's New Budget Chief Got a $900 Million Bonus From Citigroup After It Got A Bailout

Probably little will change without a system collapse, the corruption runs too deep.

Former Idealist wrote:

as is the guy Chelsey Clinton is marrying.

But he has the added benefit of being a convicted crook.

That's not a planet; it's a Debt Star!

(Did someone here originally say this?)

bulls better hold 1093 or more Elmo! on the way...

while also sickening, it appears the bonus was not $900 million but instead $900,000.

the dood is in pursuit of his truthiness narrative, don't be insisting in it actually being factual or anything

12th Percentile wrote:

while also sickening, it appears the bonus was not $900 million but instead $900,000.

Thanks to both you and FI; I should have followed the links back to the original article to make sure.....

purple wrote:

"Probably little will change without a system collapse, the corruption runs too deep."

I'll cheer for it, but I'm not bettin that way.

5 Reasons Obama Is the Same as Bush, Clinton - US News & World Report

Here's a 6th one
White House pushes for warrantless access to Internet records | Raw Story

Which part of "change you can believe in don't you understand ? Bush was the worst US president.but Obama still has two years to "amaze" the world ( credit to TheDevilCanDance )

Jim Kelly's not gonna make a comeback, and the irregular lineup looks suspect as always, lots of promise ready to get dashed, Ralphed.

HomeGnome wrote:

(Did someone here originally say this?)

dr strangemoney wrote:

Darth Paulson is nearing completion of the Debt Star. An interstellar financial instrument of balance sheet destruction. The Debt Star is able to destroy an entire planetary economy with its Correlation Laser. All economic variables are forced into coherence, resulting in a devastating concentration of converging correlations, which results in a sudden burst speculative energy, leaving behind a barren economic landscape littered with misery and war.

This is from March 10 2008

Juvenal Delinquent wrote:

irregular lineup

it's all about the O line

and until they play together for a couple or three years, the offense is gonna suffer

if you're going to continue to post links from BusinessInsider, you could at least post a disclaimer when the headline can't distinguish between 900K, and 900M.

White House pushes for warrantless access to Internet records | Raw Story

Ahh must be the whole " Kiddie porn " excuse again. Keep throwing gasoline on the fire Mr. Government.

I worked for a guy in the 80's and his mantra was always "How can we add zeroes onto the end of our numbers now?"

km4 wrote:

White House pushes for warrantless access to Internet records | Raw Story

Good thing we are fighting "those that hate us for our freedom" over there so we don't have to fight them here.

Foreclosure Filings Rise in 75% of U.S. Cities on Unemployment - Bloomberg

And here we have it, absolute confirmation of the drum some of us here have been banging on for nigh on two years - unemployment is a leading economic indicator, specifially for credit deterioration and its sequelae in a balance sheet recession.

edit: so there really, really is no such thing as a jobless recovery

energyecon wrote:

the drum some of us here have been banging on for nigh on two years

Like a bunch of tweaked out hippies in a damn drum circle.

Basel Too wrote:

if you're going to continue to post links from BusinessInsider, you could at least post a disclaimer when the headline can't distinguish between 900K, and 900M.

I'mnot sure where the error came from, but if you just post the URL, the 900Million figure comes up, even though it's not contained in the URL:
http://www.businessinsider.com/jack-lew-omb-bonus-2010-7'
BUSTED: Obama's New Budget Chief Got a $900 Million Bonus From Citigroup After It Got A Bailout
The text, and apparently the title inside the article are correct.

Edit: On my screen, the two lines above look the same with the exception of an apostrophe used to keep HCN from porting in whatever it does to create those titles....

HomeGnome wrote:

Like a bunch of tweaked out hippies in a damn drum circle.

it's a manly thing

umm... if by tweaked out hippie you mean a pocket protector wearing spreadsheet jockey... well, yeah Wink

HomeGnome wrote:

Like a bunch of tweaked out hippies in a damn drum circle.

I'm proud to be one. Smile Snark Om-nom-nom-nom

ive been panning for gold at an undisclosed location in southern oregon

using 'small device when visiting far away restaurant hot spot i get to crash read CR and hcn

but had to share this with the commentariat

tag under Squirrel!

By Agence France-Presse
Thursday, July 29th, 2010 -- 10:56 am

Supermarket backs squirrel meat sales amid protest

LONDON — A supermarket has defended selling squirrel meat as a "sustainable" form of food, amid protests by animal activists who accused him of cashing in on a "wildlife massacre".

"In a few years' time, it's going to become like rabbit," said Andrew Thornton, who introduced squirrel meat into his branch of the Budgens supermarket in north London this year.

"Squirrel is a very sustainable form of meat," he told AFP on Thursday, explaining that while it takes 15 tons of grain to produce one ton of beef, "squirrels feed from nature -- there are too many of them around."

From the link....

Mea culpa: An earlier version incorrectly stated million in the headline, rather than thousand.. It has been corrected.

energyecon wrote:

a pocket protector wearing spreadsheet jockey

I imagined you differently Smile

wally wrote:

A slowdown in growth and a slowdown are not the same thing.

For a society that has subsisted on valuation churn for a dozen years in lieu of actual value creation, they are indeed.

...they came for the squirrels, but I didn't care, I wasn't soylent green

Basel Too wrote:

can't distinguish between 900K, and 900M

Splitting hairs. If you embezzle either sum from the Treasury, I don't think it would make much difference in a court of law.

'tis a metaphorical pocket protector - busted!

energyecon wrote:

for nigh on two years

Anyone paying attention noted that gubmint and the spillover effects of the housing bubble were the only job drivers in the 'good times' of '02-'07.

Fed talking about deflation and firing up the printing press again, so stocks think maybe this confirms things really are terrible after all. Elmo!

energyecon wrote:

a pocket protector wearing spreadsheet jockey.

You're looking good, ee.
http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kue7vwjrq81qa717go1_400.jpg

Well it better be the FED cuz the GOP is still the party of NO

GOP block Senate passage of small bank bill - MarketWatch

energyecon wrote:

And here we have it, absolute confirmation of the drum some of us here have been banging on for nigh on two years - unemployment is a leading economic indicator, specifially for credit deterioration and its sequelae in a balance sheet recession.
edit: so there really, really is no such thing as a jobless recovery

it depends on the perspective of the speaker
thinking about CR's question whether Bernanke is falling behind the curve, and I have a real difficulty in arguing to myself that Bernanke has any concern for those outside a narrow subset of the population
this is based on not only his actions, he has really put himself out there on lobbying for policy or what he refers in statements as 'dangers to the economy'

Im continually amazed that I live right around the birth place of the computer, the iPhone, social media sites and yet I can't get a FRIGGIN cell phone signal.

And we care about this why, if the wages are stagnant or going down?

I think the important things are wages and unemployment. That's it.

poic wrote:

I can't get a FRIGGIN cell phone signal.

Steve Steve
Tinfoil Hat

poic wrote:

I can't get a FRIGGIN cell phone signal.

pay your bill

volker the viking wrote:

pay your bill

poic spent all his money on KY and dry cleaning for the Brown Pants

Orwells Fargo, their necks staged in banking

And we care about this why, if the wages are stagnant or going down?

wage pressure is contained...

Cinco-X wrote:

Business as usual:
BUSTED: Obama's New Budget Chief Got a $900 Million Bonus From Citigroup After It Got A Bailout

Million... thousand... still a whore, we are just haggling over price. - Shaw paraphrased.

Mr Slippery wrote:

Apparently, what we need right now is more housing...

Affordable Housing in the Recovery Summer | The White House

Were you not around for barfly's pissing and moaning last night about Rosie Rios' proposals? Yogi presumably got into it too.

Truss, But Verify

Affordable Housing in the Recovery Summer | The White House

If we had more actual economists and less Silence is Golden Brown types, we might realize that the dirty 19 are in fact a massive drag on the economy, and a few thousand lending institutions in their place would be infinitely better for growth.

Rob Dawg wrote:

still a whore, we are just haggling over price

Welcome to Divorce Court.

Rob Dawg wrote:

BUSTED: Obama's New Budget Chief Got a $900 Million Bonus From Citigroup After It Got A Bailout

Million... thousand... still a whore, we are just haggling over price. - Shaw paraphrased.

Note: HCN goes to their website and pulls that info down. It wasn't something I did-

Cinco-X wrote:

Were you not around for barfly's pissing and moaning last night about Rosie Rios' proposals? Yogi presumably got into it too.

No, I was not around. See what happens when I step out for a day or two? I can't leave you kids alone for two minutes! My Head Just Exploded Smile

Cinco-X wrote:

It wasn't something I did

never is

it depends on the perspective of the speaker

That is a simple assertion, and simply incorrect. At least throw a little 'chop logic' out with an inanity like that to amuse the crowd, EHP.

HomeGnome wrote:

I hope you saved your paper bag from last year....
Schedule

Look at their first 7 games.

I don't know why everyone is busting on chelsea. I saw a blurb where the wedding cost is in the millions. There's your bankster trickle down for you. O just needs to mandate bankster weddings have to run seven figures and the economy will be humming.

Wells Fargo's CEO Stumpf admits banks engage in illegal price-fixing:

http://www.vtaide.com/png/images/cricket-m3.jpg

line of sight only works in fashion designer runways.......I used to sell alphanumeric pagers for Motorola in 80's for $300.00 a pop to couriers, ambulance companies etc...we primed sales calls with line of sight and satellite coverage....

when it didnt work we used the solar flare ups, high winds and freak storms are causing the problems to our valued customers...

of course all it took is 1 tech to move the network repeater under the tower a little and freak solar flare up routine started once again...

volker the viking wrote:

It wasn't something I did

never is

Yes, and don't you forget it....

Rob Dawg wrote:

Look at their first 7 games.

week six should go well

Cinco-X wrote:

Note: HCN goes to their website and pulls that info down. It wasn't something I did-

But you DID push the 'save' button, right. And you previewed the link like all responsible commenters, too?

You seem to be saying I did it, but Hoocoodanode is responsible. Makes sense, in a special kind of way.

Neither barfly nor I made any comment on Rios' statement. None.

Barfly commented on the Business Insider article you linked, and I pointed that out since you played dumb. Really have to watch you cheap shot artists like a hawk. It just so happens my flight was delayed and I missed a connection.

I'm going to go waterboard myself down @ the river, in preparation for the season

volker the viking wrote:

week six should go well

IF you could lose a bye week; the Bills would figure out a way...

Bullard was quite confident that economy wasn't as bad as it was for the early 80s pair of recessions because it didn't feel as bad to him so we wouldn't breach that high water mark
he likes to talk a lot, but doesn't seem to have a clear or consistent vision of anything

On Americans cutting back:

There was an interview on CHBS with an analyst discussing consumers trading down from name brands. Kellogs, collgate, named as taking a hit.

White House wants easier access for FBI to internet activity logs - Boing Boing

technogeek • #1 • 8:35 AM Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 • Reply
I have to keep reminding myself that the other ticket really was worse. Sigh.

snackcake • #2 • 8:44 AM Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 • Reply
slowly losing my Hope™

dculberson • #3 • 8:52 AM Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 • Reply
Why?????????????????? oh so sad.

Boondocker • #4 • 8:59 AM Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 • Reply
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Phikus replied to comment from dculberson • #5 • 9:04 AM Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 • Reply
...Because ever since the FISA bill, O's been owned.

mdh • #6 • 9:07 AM Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 • Reply
"if agents believe the information is relevant to a terrorism or intelligence investigation"

a 'belief of relevance' held by someone looking to make news and get a promotion does not trump my right to privacy.

An appointed judges judgement does.

beerose • #7 • 9:13 AM Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 • Reply
Not to worry, I'm sure our ever-vigilant press will ask him some tough questions about this. You know, like the ladies on the View.
/Sarc

John Napsterista replied to comment from Boondocker • #8 • 9:14 AM Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 • Reply
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BukaHobbit • #9 • 9:26 AM Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 • Reply
It seems that Hope, Change and Transparency were just campaign buzz words.

johnphantom replied to comment from BukaHobbit • #10 • 9:28 AM Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 • Reply
Yep Buka, and with the only exception being that the alternative was worse (McCain & Palin) I fully regret voting for Obama.

He is a liar.

boingaddict • #11 • 9:33 AM Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 • Reply
i yet to see a politician that is not a liar.....boooo

Phikus replied to comment from technogeek • #12 • 9:33 AM Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 • Reply
Two parties are just two few. It gives us all a military industrial complex.

I wish his last name was Bearard..I would believe his spiel much more...

I thought Bama was gonna pay my cell phone bill. I am liberal afterall.

At least they have enough of a sense of shame as to play their home opener in a foreign country.

The 5.5 under pays +115 at at least one book, BTW.

You seem to be saying I did it, but Hoocoodanode is responsible. Makes sense, in a special kind of way.

i'm having de ja vu all over again...

wafdof wrote:

There was an interview on CHBS with an analyst discussing consumers trading down from name brands. Kellogs, collgate, named as taking a hit.

We've got a real problem here. While the early '80s suck especially for the rust belt, at least we knew how to deal with the problems of them time.

"The main thing here is people just don't have jobs. And if they have jobs [for many] it's part-time work, it's contract work," Gibbons says. "The key catalyst to get consumer spending would be jobs and job creation, and that's been alluding us in this recovery."

What's below Kellogs, some lower-end cereal killer quis cache?

creditcriminalslovetarp wrote:

I wish his last name was Bearard..I would believe his spiel much more...

I was thinking his name ought to be Bull-tard.....

Cinco-X wrote:

North Korea Has Turned To Barter System To Pay Foreign Debt

The Nukes For Food Program

Juvenal Delinquent wrote:

What's below Kellogs, some lower-end cereal killer quist cache?

I dunno but I GOTTA HAVE MY POPS!
Right, shill?

poic wrote:

I thought Bush3.0 was gonna pay my cell phone bill. I am liberal afterall. Fixed It For Ya

LOL

Juvenal Delinquent wrote:

What's below Kellogs

according to the map, nothing until you get to Coldwater

Cinco-X wrote:

Fed's Bullard: It Is Time To Start Talking About More Quantitative Easing To Stop Deflation

Curious timing - 1 day ahead of GDP release.

12th Percentile wrote:

nine senators couldn't be bothered to show up for a special session to deal with the problem. ... The Democrats were Malcolm Smith, George Onerato, Joseph Addabbo, Thomas Duane, and Bill Perkins

Apparently the Republicans are so irresponsible that they don't even merit identification.

White House is going to need an interpreter for HCN postings.

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Some Jokes of the day ( Ya it's still early )

JOKE: Germany fuels boost in euro-zone economic sentiment. German unemployment falls for 13th straight month in July. One country a European Union does not make. Most other countries in Europe are in deep stuff. Germany can't pull the rest of Europe into growth...To say so is ignorant or spin...

JOKE: Oil UP? With inventory levels rising and economy slowing (BDI down down down) the argument for higher oil is pure speculation. Oil should be below $50

JOKE: Inflation is TAME. Really?! At the grocery store, healthcare? Inflated Taxes?? See your food bill recently...up 20% in the last couple of years.

JOKE: This MARKET...climbing a razor wired wall of worry...the damage caused on the way up will also be caused on the way down...

JOKE: This administration and FINANCIAL "REFORM". SEC Exempted from FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT. The politicians should be round up and summarily ____ cuted ... you fill in the blank depending on how angry you feel: prose-, exe-, perse-, electro-....whatever

JOKE: ZOMBIE earnings, ZOMBIE Banks, ZOMBIE Economy, ZOMBIE Politicians, ZOMBIE electorate watching "jersey shore". How disgraceful of a country have we become when the cast of "jersey shore" rings the bell at the market...Odrama, our empty-suit, emperor with no clothes, man-child on the view.

All these JOKES are no JOKE.

bearly wrote:

Fed's Bullard: It Is Time To Start Talking About More Quantitative Easing To Stop Deflation

Curious timing - 1 day ahead of GDP release.

I'm sure there's nothing to it Wink

Basel Too wrote:

if you're going to continue to post links from BusinessInsider, you could at least post a disclaimer when the headline can't distinguish between 900K, and 900M.

900K was prolly WHY he left....insulting for a Wall Streeter

energyecon
Basel just mentioned the joke that increasing wages or decreasing unemployment are considered a threat to the economy because they may lead to inflation, yet the Fed considers unlimited (and preferably concentrated) increases in apparent wealth to be a supreme virtue and synonymous with economic strength or recovery

Bernanke has within the span of 24 hours argued to congress for cutting spending.... blah blah deficit, entitlements.... and then argued stridently for maintaining or increasing tax cuts (and it had to be for those earning $250k+).... he's not supposed to speak a word on the subject at all!

energyecon, come on
i hope you retract your comment about inane logic, the more you fight occam's razor the more you are hurting yourself

Apparently the Republicans and Democrats are so irresponsible that they don't even merit identification

fixed it for ya...

same poop, 2 different piles....

When you got nothing, you've got nothing to lose, you're invlincible now, you've got nuclear secrets to unfold..

YouTube - jimi hendrix - like a rolling stone

EvilHenryPaulson wrote:

he's not supposed to speak a word on the subject at all!

Anything that distracts him from his purported job can only be a good thing.

that is odd isn't it. any wage pressure will lead to inflation, but 30% YoY returns on stocks and real estate is A-OK...

Expert agrees that free money is the best kind.

Cinco-X wrote:

The text, and apparently the title inside the article are correct.

HCN only retrieves the title for a link once to avoid swamping servers. Looks like BusinessInsider fixed the title shortly after someone posted a link here.

EvilHenryPaulson wrote:

energyecon, come on
i hope you retract your comment about inane logic, the more you fight occam's razor the more you are hurting yourself

I learned not to play with razors when I was about 2yo. Back then the standard was the 2 edged "safety razor", which was, of course, anything but safe.....Maybe a different razor, but the lesson still applies-

kcoop wrote:

HCN only retrieves the title for a link once to avoid swamping servers. Looks like BusinessInsider fixed the title shortly after someone posted a link here.

I'll have to admit that their editing process leaves something to be desired....

kcoop wrote:

Looks like BusinessInsider fixed the title shortly after

Dewey defeats Truman!

So what if the Fed resumes treasury purchases.
They've already signaled that this particular gun is to their temple anyway, and the time it buys will be shorter than last time.

seriously
the Fed has spent a lot of research on demonstrating that in the very short run an increase in the cost of oil does not lead to an increase price of consumer goods....
look at the housing bubble, nary a word about inflation was ever mentioned.... in fact it represented a strong economy, ditto for oil... look at those producers which such vitality they are bidding oil up to the moon, business must be great for them...
... but when it comes to employment or wages ... hoo-boy! better get in front of that disease... red alert, TPTB are on the losing side in the relative distribution of production

I Yap Stone therefore I am being watched by little green men from Venus-adjacent, right next to

YouTube - B52's - Planet claire

I learned not to play with razors when I was about 2yo. Back then the standard was the 2 edged "safety razor", which was, of course, anything but safe.....Maybe a different razor, but the lesson still applies-

I learned the hard way that mom's car key's are not made for the electrical outlet on the wall.

Shocking, and i didn't know I could fly.

Comrade Janošik wrote:

So what if the Fed resumes treasury purchases.

Might as well buy and hold SRS indefinitely as purchase long bonds because they'll perform the same.

EHP,
DId you read Bullard's paper? It's titled "Seven Faces of "The Peril"", but I was unable to determine what the 7 faces were. Any idea?

Grizzly, 2 Cubs Caught After Campground Mauling : NPR

Sheppard described the incident — in which campers in three different tents were mauled as they slept — as a highly unusual predatory attack.

"She basically targeted the three people and went after them," Sheppard said. "It was like an archery hunter who gets between a sow and her cubs and she responds to protect them."

Officials have said the sow will be killed. State and federal wildlife officials will determine the fate of the cubs. Sheppard said they are unlikely to be returned to the wild because they could have been learning predatory behavior from their mother.

So Kill the Mom who was only doing what she was genetically engineered to do since the beginning of time......

bears need to eat too..

6 Reasons the Housing Market Hasn't Recovered - Yahoo! Real Estate

7 The banks and MIC got all the gubmit largess and the taxpayers got the bill

America's share of world military spending has risen from 37 percent of global military spending in 2000 to 2009's 44 percent.
- CIA's World Factbook

Are there any remaining doubts that the MIC, Wall St., other 1% elites own the mostly asslcowns we call Congressiters in Wash DC at the expense of the other 99% of Americans?

Rob Dawg wrote:

Might as well buy and hold SRS

go long the Euro, it's headed back to 1.40 - 1.50 by October

shill wrote:

Shocking, and i didn't know I could fly.

And here I just thought liberals had been dropped as babies. [I kid. I kid]

Rob Dawg wrote:

And here I just thought liberals had been dropped as babies. [I kid. I kid]

We know you're kidding; shill isn't a liberal-

volker the viking wrote:

go long the Euro, it's headed back to 1.40 - 1.50 by October

What makes you think that? Curious.

go long the Euro, it's headed back to 1.40 - 1.50 by October

...über meine Leiche

sm_landlord wrote:

Curious.

volker not know, volker sense shift in farce after Ramadan

Many "conservatives" were certainly babied as droppings.

Rodman hung out in Newport-- shows where his standards are.
The antics were really pretty bland.

I heard that if a liberal gets dropped on his head as a child he grows up to be a conservative Wink

Statistically, 2 out of 3 cubs a sow bears will be dead by the next year...

...Mother Nature is a tough taskmaster

About 5 years ago on November 1, I went on a search with others in the National Park, armed with direction finders, looking for GPS collars that were put on tranquilized bears in the spring, and programmed to fall off on halloween. It took all day to find a dozen collars~

And here I just thought liberals had been dropped as babies. [I kid. I kid]

Dropped Hell I was thrown hahahah Big smile And you know me I am far from a Liberal.

I can think on my own Wink

I thought he was more of a Manhattan Beach guy. Now he's just a drunk. It's a shame, those rings were his as much as Scotty's and Jordan's.

NEW YORK (Reuters) – Foreclosures rose in 3 of every four large U.S. metro areas in this year's first half, likely ruling out sustained home price gains until 2013, real estate data company RealtyTrac said on Thursday. Unemployment was the main culprit driving foreclosure actions on more than 1.6 million properties, the company said. "We're not going to see meaningful, sustainable home price appreciation while we're seeing 75 percent of the markets have increases in foreclosures," RealtyTrac senior vice president Rick Sharga said in an interview.

Foreclosures up in 75 percent of top U.S. metro areas - Yahoo! News

Was this mentioned in that POS shill piece How the Great Recession Was Brought to an End Laughing out loud

Calculated Risk: Blinder and Zandi Paper

that is odd isn't it. any wage pressure will lead to inflation, but 30% YoY returns on stocks and real estate is A-OK...

Saving banks so they can continue to do gods work.

Imprimis

Foreclosure Filings Rise in 75% of U.S. Cities on Unemployment - Bloomberg

And here we have it, absolute confirmation of the drum some of us here have been banging on for nigh on two years - unemployment is a leading economic indicator, specifially for credit deterioration and its sequelae in a balance sheet recession.

edit: so there really, really is no such thing as a jobless recovery

To which you replied:

it depends on the perspective of the speaker
thinking about CR's question whether Bernanke is falling behind the curve, and I have a real difficulty in arguing to myself that Bernanke has any concern for those outside a narrow subset of the population
this is based on not only his actions, he has really put himself out there on lobbying for policy or what he refers in statements as 'dangers to the economy'

my response:

it depends on the perspective of the speaker

That is a simple assertion, and simply incorrect. At least throw a little 'chop logic' out with an inanity like that to amuse the crowd, EHP.

and your elaboration:

energyecon
Basel just mentioned the joke that increasing wages or decreasing unemployment are considered a threat to the economy because they may lead to inflation, yet the Fed considers unlimited (and preferably concentrated) increases in apparent wealth to be a supreme virtue and synonymous with economic strength or recovery

Bernanke has within the span of 24 hours argued to congress for cutting spending.... blah blah deficit, entitlements.... and then argued stridently for maintaining or increasing tax cuts (and it had to be for those earning $250k+).... he's not supposed to speak a word on the subject at all!

energyecon, come on
i hope you retract your comment about inane logic, the more you fight occam's razor the more you are hurting yourself

To which I say:

Very well, I retract describing your comment as an inanity, rather it was banal. Seriously.

How is describing the convoluted machinations of whatever perspective you suppose for Bernanke the application of Occam's Razor? What is simpler than unemployment is a leading indicator of economic deterioration in a balance sheet recession?

sum luk wrote:

Major Pullback in U.S. Consumer Spending for July
Edit: gotta remember a lotta UE folks had nuttin to spend

That last chart shows Mar 09 where QE cut in right?

If we are heading to a similar loss of confidence in the economy, then we have a pretty good indicator for where Ben will pull the big QE II lever.

km4 linked to:

White House wants easier access for FBI to internet activity logs - Boing Boing

This should assuage your fears:

Director OK With FBI Test Cheating 

Cinco-X wrote:

Is Gold Pointing to Lehman Mark II? - Yahoo! Finance

A large failure could produce another systemic panic, but who will be the sacrificial lamb.

Was this mentioned in that POS shill piece How the Great Recession Was Brought to an End Laughing out loud

Right utter toilet paper....Actually that reading pissed me off big time...but I am over it now.

Amid Fears of Double-Dip Recession, Ceridian-UCLA Pulse of Commerce Index(TM) Falls Sharply in June -- MINNEAPOLIS, July 13 /PRNewswire/ --

"While June's number is substantially down, erasing two-thirds of May's great gain, the daily and weekly activity on which the monthly PCI is based does not suggest that the economy is heading over a cliff," said Leamer. "Part of the apparent strength of May and weakness in June is the result of the Memorial Day holiday occurring on the last day of May, allowing the negative Memorial Day effect which is usually confined to May to leak into June. More importantly, the June weakness was confined to the first two weeks, and by the second half of June, we were seeing strong growth again."

The PCI data also indicates strong year-over-year and quarter-over-quarter growth, even though the month-to-month comparison is worrisome. The annualized number for June climbed 8.6 percent, the seventh consecutive month of positive year-over-year results.

"The PCI has not been showing the sustained negative numbers characteristic of a double-dip recession," Leamer said.

MB wrote:

Director OK With FBI Test Cheating

Who destroyed more freedom?

Al Q
or
FedGov

Comrade Janošik wrote:

A large failure could produce another systemic panic, but who will be the sacrificial lamb.

By all rights it should be JP Morgan but in all likelihood Wells Fargo. Pitchforks and Torches

Comrade Janošik wrote:

A large failure could produce another systemic panic, but who will be the sacrificial lamb.

Rob has essentially argued for Wells Fargo. I'd argue for Illinois....

CBO directors blog... debt meme being seared... here

energyecon wrote:

What is simpler than unemployment is a leading indicator of economic deterioration in a balance sheet recession?

Rephrasing it as: "No jobs, no recovery."

OT: What the eff is up with natty? +50¢ in two weeks?

Comrade Janošik wrote:

A large failure could produce another systemic panic, but who will be the sacrificial lamb.

"The chef recommends soylent green, served in a mint-jelly confit using the reduction methode"

...pretty good indicator for where Ben will pull the big QE II lever.

nice catch

shill wrote:

Was this mentioned in that POS shill piece How the Great Recession Was Brought to an End

It was toilet paper, though I'd worry about it being rough and slick. However, it was a very Keynesian piece and as I pointed out, it was a classic case of begging the question. At least I think that was the one...

he lived over in balboa near 56th street on the beach if memory recalls, actually played pick up game against him and brian williams (his teammate with bulls) at the courts by the beach.. great games with loads of talent back in 90's coming thru there...One russian had to be 7ft and 300 lbs of steel and flesh...I took a charge and landed about 10 ft back..he asked me in broken english if I was crazy or something...I told him I was and hated losing plus the pot I smoked made him look smaller...

Cinco-X wrote:

Rob has essentially argued for Wells Fargo. I'd argue for Illinois....

Unlike Wells fargo you can't give Illinois to another State at a deep discount with a loss sharing agreement... or can you? I'm intrigued.

Rob Dawg wrote:

OT: What the eff is up with natty? +50¢ in two weeks?

Check for increased ethanol production - a lot of NatGas is used to cook it.

OT: What the eff is up with natty? +50¢ in two weeks?

I'd appreciate it if you refrain from mentioning gas since it fills me with natty dread having purchased ung. I prefer to remain :ignorance is bliss: with respect to the valuation of that position as it is now a :long term core position:

EDIT to add the most important part

YouTube - NATTY DREAD - BOB MARLEY

trader0054 wrote:

CBO directors blog... debt meme being seared... here

Posting after only after being a member for a little over 9min?! Balzy

can anyone think of a subject where Bernanke or the Fed haven't made contradicting arguments depending on who stood to be helped or hurt?
inflation, unemployment, defaults, commodities, housing, fiscal policy, taxation, investment losses, outsourcing, interest rates, regulation, following their prescribed mandate (full employment, stable prices, not losing any money in their market operations as that would be spending which they are not authorized to do)...

i'm not suggesting there is a conspiracy or conscious bias here, just that in practice the chosen positions are logically and predictably inconsistent

creditcriminalslovetarp wrote:

So Kill the Mom who was only doing what she was genetically engineered to do since the beginning of time......

Only humans are allowed to kill humans. If an animal does it, it's inexcusable.

For the record, I think many here would find that upon closer examination they would tend to be more liberal on some issues and more conservative on others.

Being one or the other doesn't make you special, smart, or better than anyone else.
The propagandized caricatures of both schools of thought should be appalling to anyone who values their own intellectual development.

Rob Dawg wrote:

Unlike Wells fargo you can't give Illinois to another State at a deep discount with a loss sharing agreement... or can you? I'm intrigued.

Damn! Forgot the Snark again....

Rephrasing it as: "No jobs, no recovery."

OT: What the eff is up with natty? +50¢ in two weeks?

I yield to the simpler construction, :occamsrazor: to you Dawg

Natty has been getting the bumpo a bit but doesn't look like a real spike yet:

Natural Gas Weekly Update

There's still one Grizzly in California, they aren't extinct.

It was toilet paper, though I'd worry about it being rough and slick. However, it was a very Keynesian piece and as I pointed out, it was a classic case of begging the question. At least I think that was the one...

Extremely Keynesian for sure, it took me 2 days to read it actually, because my brain can only absorb so much utter Bull shit during my quiet reading sessions. My wife even asked me why I looked uptight....I said it's not you babe, and took a nice ride for an hour. I mean who the hell do these people think they are fooling?

Just pretend that nobody's watching. You'll get used to it.

where? do tell, I will plan hikes accordingly...

HomeGnome wrote:

Who destroyed more freedom?
Al Q
or
FedGov

After trailing at the outset, FedGov has found its legs and accelerated into a huge and growing lead.

on a two hundred comment thread, I can eliminate/reduce it by one-third by putting just three people on my ignore list.

energyecon wrote:

How is describing the convoluted machinations of whatever perspective you suppose for Bernanke the application of Occam's Razor?

Bernanke or the Fed will step in, once those who matter to them are in trouble
until then, they are covering their asses and leaving it up to someone else to risk intervention or blame
they don't much care about the economy, they care about the balance sheets and cashflows of some who happen to have one foot in the economy
by sitting back, they have only to gain if there is another crisis... they gain a lot of power, and risk little criticism for intervening

barfly wrote:

I can eliminate/reduce it by one-third by putting just three people on my ignore list.

Suck it up, cupcake.

on a two hundred comment thread, I can eliminate/reduce it by one-third by putting just three people on my ignore list.

OH OH! Pick me please! Pick me!

barfly wrote:

I can eliminate/reduce it by one-third

and if you do the revenues to the owner might go down

it's all about the hits

you're not one of them, HG - Wink

how does using ignore function reduce the number of hits?

1 currency now -yogi wrote:

Wells Fargo’s Stumpf Sees New Costs for Customers (Update1) - Bloomberg.com
Wells Fargo’s Stumpf Sees New Costs for Customers (Update1) - Bloomberg.com 

Anybody know how Bloomberg decides which words to tie to a link within an article?

“That is a dispute between banks and merchants and it somehow found its way into regulatory reform,” Stumpf said. He told analysts on July 21, “I don’t see how debit card fees between banks and merchants had anything to do with what happened in the last couple of years.”

I wonder if a computer algorithm or a human decided that "what happened" should be linked to a 1-yr chart of the SP500.

volker,

awesome songwriting on the last thread. I particularly got a kick out of, "the fix was in, since before there was sex". Excellent.

I'll take Barfly's ignore list for $2000 Alex......

" What is Failure to communicate "

This may be too controversial for the commentariat.

Pizza Hut Simplifies Prices With $8, $10, $12 Pies

Deflation for the things we eat!

Silvertoes

1:21pFed's Fisher sees 'suboptimal' growth pace ahead

1:20pFisher blames regulatory uncertainty for slowdown love this one...

1:20pFisher sees growth below 3% rate for long period

1:20pFed's Fisher sees 'suboptimal' growth pace ahead

sometimes I am not sure what to make of these pronouncements whether it be the Fed or the White House...
reminds me of the cover of Faith Hill on Redbook - check here for the before and after photo of Faith,
hell... they even changed her jawline...
Here's Our Winner! 'Redbook' Shatters Our 'Faith' In Well, Not Publishing, But Maybe God
...
EDIT: also removed fat on her back and waist...

I am not sure what to make of this comment, two hours after everyone else moved on. But, baby definitely got back fat...

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